Apr 25
A disgruntled fan’s views on the Barca game
Being a Manchester United fan comes with some responsibility: you just have to taunt every single Liverpool fan you come across and if you attend games, make the atmosphere incendiary – it would really help players. In return, you are the fan of a club who has a divine right to domestic success and your team plays some of the nicest football out there. Or not.
There was huge anticipation ahead of the Barcelona – Man Utd game in the Champions League semi-final. Many bloggers or journalists or drunk ‘experts’ (call them what you will) made everyone believe that this would be the game of the season. In all fairness, the game wasn’t all bad. Messi was outstanding, Xavi and Iniesta had some blinding moments and even Thierry Henry looked on form. The only problem is that these were all Barcelona players.
It was a bit exciting to watch Barcelona play like they used to when Ronaldinho was in his prime, but what was less than exciting was the way Manchester United played for the nil-nil draw. With that I am not happy. In fact, I would have been happier had United lost but had a go at Barcelona than play the way they played. You can argue all you like, but that is the way I feel.
The issue that I am raising here has been debated for ages. Would you rather have your team play well and with not-so-good results, or would it be better if they defended like Italians? Normally a team like Chelsea can afford to defend since it has some the best defensive midfielders in the world and a mind-boggling back four while they lack attacking versatility. Manchester United — on the other hand — is mostly top-heavy and they should be able to take on just about everyone.
Last year’s semi-final was much worse than this from our point of view. The team had run out of energy by that stage of the season and they were steam-rolled by a very well rested Milan team. When we left the competition last year, our heads were not held high. We had been outclassed. If we lose this year, we will be able to say that it was a dog-fight which might have gone either way.
We would have gained the respect of our Catalan opponents by trying to hold them off. Had we challenged them and lost, everything would have gone out the window. No praise from the fans and even less from everybody else.
Fans have to remember that football is entertainment first and foremost. If your team wins something, you win nothing, but if your team plays football the way it was meant to be played, the way you try to play on the playground with your friends, you are entertained. Right now football is held hostage by some greedy fuckers who want to get as much money out of the game as possible and are willing to sacrifice everything to get there.
As much as I hate to admit it, I was hoping for a late Barcelona goal at the Nou Camp on Wednesday simply because I thought they had outplayed us and outclassed us and because Rijkaard had done away with everything Ferguson had ever built, in my eyes. I will always be a Manchester United fan but that performance was something which I hated and which I never want to see again!
Hopefully Ferguson can make it up to us next week.
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Grognard-Im replying late because i just recently logged on.But u imply that Saf realised after 20+ years of European experience that there are certain ways 2 play an away game.Well he decided in 2001 not 2007 that it was being defensive and since that transition we reached the finals a grand total of zero times.What about even semis?In fact how many away games did we win since that masterclass discovery or even get meaningful results.Anyway,I guess being a la liga and Super Liga fan,where coaches are fired and put under pressure 4 playing negatively even if they get results,makes it difficult 2 understand football from a perspective which discards entertainment.Ask Fabio Capello and Sir Bobby Robson about coaching in Spain
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For progress sake,I hope we go through and play our game on Tuesday.Of equal importance I hope we beat Chelsea tomorrow without overstretching ourselves.And then go on to annahilate them in Moscow.That’s of course if they manage 2 overcome the mandatory referee assists that Liverpool have enjoyed over the years
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Okay, I was silent till now about the Barcelona game because, thanks to work commitments, I managed to watch it only in spurts. Now that I have seen it in its entirety here’s what I think:
I didn’t have a problem with our defensive performance. The defenders did an outstanding job without doubt.
What I was really alarmed about was our inability to make any attempt whatsoever to string a few passes and try to move the ball forward. Every time we got the ball we seemed content giving it back after a couple of short passes and the odd hopeful long ball and gave it back to them
The defence did an excellent job of soaking up the pressure, but the mentality was worrying. True, we may have been rattled by a penalty miss early on in the game and I could excuse the team for the first half. I expected us to show some drive moving forward in the second half, now that the players had a feel for the pace of the game.
It is one thing defending well. It is entirely another thing when you can’t seem to transition from attack to defence.
When you listen to Fergie’s post match comment you will notice what I am trying to say. He praised the defensive performance but expressed alarm at our inability to transform defence into attack.
Conceding 70% of the possession against a team that has been woeful till date, is not something you would expect from our team. Never have we done so against Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal this season — all top sides, despite our biases.
I appreciate the team’s ability to dig in, but I was positively alarmed at our lack of ambition. And that is why I am worried for the side prior to Chelsea; the players did a lot of running around and have one day less to prepare and recuperate against Chelsea. I just hope we beat them easily somehow, and manage to rest players ahead of the home game. Because, the likes of Messi and Deco will play the full 90 minutes and they will have a half decent centre half in Puyol.
I can see why some people might have liked the performance, considering what happened last year at Milan. I also appreciate United’s ability to dig in and eke out wins or redeem itself when it’s not playing well. We’ve shown the ability to switch between doggedness and flair according to the situation, but what I saw on Wednesday was strange to say the least.
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And Barcelona Update:
“Frank Rijkaard has decided to rest Xavi, Messi and Eto’o for tomorrow night’s game at Deportivo and they have been left out of the squad along with Iniesta and Milito who are both suspended.”
From FCBNews.com
Clearly they’ll be fresher than us. Let’s see what our boys are made of.
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Yes, we did concede 70% possession but not to woefull team it was against Barcelona, last years AC Milan champions league win was when they played like shit in the italian league.
Having seen Barcelona play this season I can safely say we can win, they have a really good home record of one defeat and one loss (just like ours) but they have a worse away record than ours so I think we will win and it wont be that hard.
And about Chelsea we should play ATTACK from the start, worst case scenario would be us losing and will have to win against Westham and Wigan which are doable and best case scenario would be winning the premier league.
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Just read that Lahm is close to a deal with Barcelona, now how did that happen so fast?
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[saudi]
And Barcelona aren’t particularly playing like world beaters in their league. Rijkaard has rested key players, which means they’ve conceded hope in their league. Oh well, thankfully we’re playing at OT.
About Lahm, there aren’t any quotes that confirm the deal. So wait till you hear anything from Bayern or Lahm.
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Talking about transfers I noticed that most of our list of possible targets will play in the euros, so I had a thought, wouldnt it be better if we got a player who isnt? and if he played in the premier league already that would be a plus, like Affonso Alves or Santa Cruz or Berbatov??
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I fully concur with your game analysis RR. Regardless of how good the opposition is a side the calibre of United should never be so comprehensively dominated in terms of territory and possession. Another thing that disappointed me was the lack of tactical changes/flexibility during the game. Was there any need to persist with Rooney as an auxiliary full back when virtually everything Barca had was coming down their right flank? Similarly when Messi left the field I was hoping for a tactical reshape, Anderson and Nani to enter the fray and an effort to take the game to Barcelona to come. Needless to say there was no sign of it.
Once again I will say that I have no problem with a defensive strategy in the Nou Camp. But I am not a fan of a plan which shows virtually no attacking intent and I find it hard to believe that SAF would deploy a strategy on a par with the one Reading utilised at OT. That leads me to believe that what we saw on Wednesday night was a counter attacking strategy that was so badly implemented and executed that it beggars belief. I am aware stats do not tell the whole story and that they can be warped but the match centre on the Telegraph website makes truly disturbing reading in virtually every respect.
We should just be thankful we were not playing Barcelona circa 2005/06. If that side had got the same amount of the ball as the current Barcelona incarnation, I am almost certain we would have gotten a good hiding.
All that said this game will only be judged in light of the second leg result. Win and SAF will be lauded as a genius for his strategy to contain Barcelona in their own fortress. Lose and the post mortem will no doubt hammer him for his failure to push for an away goal in the first leg. It may be unfair but such is the way of things.
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Red Ranter, you spotted what Ive been trying to say all night, SAF never intended in being so negative against Barca, it was his crap team selection that led to us being unable to turn defence into attack and I hate to have to say it but as a supporter of United for over 25 years I have almost come to expect it now.
Rooney and Ronaldo playing out of position, a central midfeild pairing that is to pedestrian and does not provide the necessary energy and bite in these games to take the game away from the opposition for long enough periods for us to get a foothold in the game and starting Squad members who are 100 percent committed but lack the quality to seriously impact a game of that magnitude leaves me dreading what our line up will be on tuesday.
Yes we defended like Trojans and never really looked like conceding but if SAF picks a similar team on tuesday I think we are in trouble.
Check my previous posts, Im not a Fergie basher and I respect and appreciate what SAF has done for the club, but lets call a spade a spade here, some of his team selections in Europe are shocking
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Jay wire; Cowards like Mourinho and Benitez have won the CL in the past 5 years. Look the bottom line is I personally hate the way they approached and played the game. Nothing would give me more joy than to see them turn on the style and clobber Barca 3-0 or 4-0 at the Nou Camp. But that isn’t being optimistic, it’s being delusional. It was n ever going to happen and I was positive the game was going to end 0-0, 1-1 or best case scenario 1-0. Yes they put up a fortification and defended but had they scored from Ronaldo’s penalty, I think Barca would have been forced to open up even more which would have opened up our counter attack game even more. In that scenario we might have beat them 2-0 or 3-1. It wasn’t pretty and for the purist it was a disgrace but none of you out there can argue about the fact that they did the job. Mission accomplished.
I’ll tell you when I get pissed off. It’s when they struggle to beat losers like Derby and Bolton etc. At times like that I am very unreasonable because I cannot excuse their lack of finish or polish in games against far inferior opposition who should be destroyed every time out. And yet that’s just not the way the game is over a long season. I was the loudest and most venomous critic of their start to the season. They were play shit sides and scoring no goals. Patience brought back the quality and the team took off. We can’t be happy all the time and if we expect 4-0 wins in Barcelona I suggest buying FIFA 08 or Pro Evolution and knock yourselves out. In the highly competitive real world the best team in Europe is never guaranteed anything against a competitor with the pedigree of the mighty Barcelona.
Now having said all this, I will be disappointed if we march into Stamford Bridge and play a defensive game against a complete useless and overrated group of misfits that have been getting points all season despite themselves. Riijkard is very good manager and he needed to be respected by Fergie. AV Grant deserves no respect for his lack of managerial ability and finesse. He is a total Wanker and if we cannot end Chelsea’s unbeaten streak at the Bridge when so much is at state, then do we really deserve to be called champions? I find it absolutely amazing that a group of overpaid and lazy superstars like them can have gone the entire season with only 3 league defeats. They never impress and never do more than what is just needed to win or draw. How have we with all our class and style lost two more game than them and only maintained a three point lead on them? It’s truly a mind boggling mystery. Look at the goal difference.
Nope, we should go to the Bridge and kick their asses because I don’t think they really have a clue on the attacking side of the game. Just press their defenders all game and I think they will crack. In past years that game would have terrified me but this is the time and they are ripe for the picking. Anything short of an extraordinary offensive effort will be looked upon by all of us a major let down and will bring up a lot of questions and concerns that only started to sprout after the Barca clash. Lets hope Fergie finds the brass balls to “cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war. Kick Chelski ass and take no prisoners.
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where can I find the game online
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Jb, you are right in every thing that you say apart from one thing, if we lose on tuesday night SAF WILL deserve all the critism that comes his way.
Im trying to stay loyal but his team selections in big CL games toatally astounds me.
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Grognard, since you are so much into military history, for every spectacular defence such as Therompolye [read Herodotus, not Hollywood], there is an Alexander. In other words, you can never say that defences are most honoured – the opposite is more likely. You rarely hear “the great Leonidas”, do you? But Alexander the Great is a household name. Similarly, you have William the Conqueror, but no “Henry the defender” and then there is also Charlemagne and I will stop here.
Going back to football now. Surely most of us have heard about the great Real Madird team with Di Stefano, Puskas and company and we are all aware of their achievements. Similarly we all know (I hope) of the achievements of Cruijff who has built a name for himself, the Dutch national team and Ajax Amsetrdam based on the most beautiful football played on this planet. Yet I doubt that any of you know who Ducadam is.
This is going back to the comment that in 50 years, the team that won, not the style of play will be remebered. Do we all know that Holland was playing beautiful football in 1976 and still lost? Most of us do. Do we all know who won the World Cup in 1950? I don’t.
To defend my post, I think that the way in which we play football is far more important that how many wins we have. After all, there seems to be a direct relationship between entertaining teams and success. Look at Barcelona two years ago and at the current Argentina team. Then look at England’s national team…
Some fans said that I am “not a true fan” or that I should be “supporting Arsenal” [read above]. I will return the favor. I see now that some of you are not real Manchester United fans who stand for what this team represents. Beautiful football is the reason I became a fan (that and the fact that they tend to be cleaner than most other top teams) and I want it in return for paying 100$ for a platic t-shirt which would have cost me 10$ had there not been “Manchester United” written on it. I think that most of you are here only because Manchester United’s success. I think you are only a declared supporter of this team because you want to say “Ronaldo/Beckham/Robson is on my team” or “we are the champions! na na na na na.”
By that I do not mean to say that I do not accept a reasonably defensive performance from United when they are clearly not on their game and have no other solution than to try an hold on to what they have (similar to the Liverpool performance in December). But to defend at all costs from t0 for me is unacceptable.
Finally, I think that had United taken the game to Barcelona we wold have had a chance to win. And I think I was a bit rash in “hoping” for a Barca goal, but I certainly would not have been too upset had it happened.
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Primachenko; “For once you agree with me”. Now I can go to sleep in peace and contentment. In fact I’m so elated I’m going to go to the pub and get royally pissed.
Jaywire; Even if Fergie learned his lesson in 2001, there is never a guarantee late in the tournament of success because you usually go up against Spanish or Italian giants. But consider the mid 90′s when we were getting knocked out very early due to tactical naiveties. I think we have come a long way, even if it hasn’t always been pretty.
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Fred: Sorry I didn’t mean it was unfair to criticise SAF. What I was saying was that it is somewhat unfair that the perception/judgement of the first leg performance will be based on the result of the tie rather than on its own merit.
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Andrej; I fully understand what you are saying and in my heart of hearts I totally agree but I do think that too much is being made off one performance that didn’t turn out the way United outcomes should. Man, Fergie never got blasted like this when Newcastle beat them 5-1 several years back or when we laid down and got thumped last year against Milan and decided to play kick around with Chelski in the dullest FA Cup ever played.. I honestly do not believe that it was Fergie’s intention to shut up shop and defend 100% of the time in the match. Where I will agree with a lot of you is that he did a horrible job of team selection. The selection of Rooney was a mistake but to place him in a role similar to that of a fullback was just a disgrace and there were certainly other players on the bench who could have carried that role out with more confidence an creativity. Use him late as a reserve.
JB wrote about the fact the team showed no positive offensive intent. I think they tried but were found miserably lacking because of the lineup chosen which was slow footed and not tactically aligned to enhance players potential. What in Gods name can you expect from a forward like Rooney when he is positioned virtually at RWB and with Park doing the same on the other side. They were flat footed and slow because he was injured and because as hard as they played, Scholes and Carrick were playing too deep and are not fast enough and pacey enough to dribble out and start a counter. Tevez was totally confused by his role and thus disappeared without a peep. Ronaldo was lonelier than Rooeny ever has been up front. The tactics were alright but the squad selection was all wrong. I have no problem with Hargo at RB but we do have Brown and I feel Pique and or O’Shea could have covered at CB. Hargo would have been a savior at RMF had we used him like that.
With all that negatosis, we still played a heroic game and defended beautifully. This is not an epidemic that has hit the club. It was just a freaky but necessary game time decision that ended up working to our favor. Lets stop making a mountain out of molehill. Save your venom for after Wednesday’s game if we get knocked out. But I honestly don’t think that will happen and I’m generally the pessimist in this group of bloggers.
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Grognard is right, its time to take the positives and learn from the negatives of wednesday nights game and move on. We defended brilliantly but attacked woefully due to the team selection.
I would personally like to see us matching their midfeild 5 by using Hargreaves as the holder with Scholes and Anderson just in front and Nani and Ronaldo completing the 5 as our 2 wide men and finally Rooney up top. This would more than give us an edge in the middle where they only have Toure to provide steel. And if we pressed them higher up the pitch instead of on our own 18 yard box the four in front of Hargreaves would have less yardage to travel to Support Rooney.
Allied to this is the ability of our wide men to influence the attack by either supporting Rooney quickly or breaking from deep with pace would allow us to retain the ball better and give Barca a lot nore to think about especially if Scholes and Anderson were given license to join in as hargreaves patrols just in front of the back four.
Come on Sir Alex, cut them loose.
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Fred the Red; I think the reason they didn’t mark them closely up the field more is because that would have made us weaker against the long through ball or long ball to their wide guys; most notably Messi. I also think the fear of Messi and to a lesser extent Iniesta made him play Rooney and Park so far back that it was impossible to start any kind of counter. Jeez, that kind of over respect of the opposition better not happen at OT. It’s easy to say cut them loose but I honestly think fatigue and a weakness of depth of front has hurt us late in the year. An injured Rooney is also a major sticking point.
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Granted, the team selection was mind boggling. But to be completely honest, i couldnt care less about our ‘style’ for this game, the chelsea game AND the next barca game. At this stage of the season, ALL that matters (not a little bit, not mostly, ALL) is the result. Like people have said, i would’ve loved to see them slaughter Barca 4-0, but we’re not playing Pro Evo. If this helps us beat barca over the 2 legs (and i definitely think it does), then perfect. I would be FAR FAR FAR more depressed if we played our brand of football and lost.
I’d even go so far as to say i would have NO problem if they played dour, boring, liverpool-esque football in the next 2 big games, as long as we WIN. Over the course of the season we’ve earnt our tag as entertainers, but if we end up with no trophies, we’d be nothing more than arsenal (now there’s a depressing thought). I can understand people being disappointed with the way we played. But I think that at this stage of the season, all that matters is the result. When we’re lifting the trophy in Moscow, you won’t be thinking about the ‘anti utd’ football we played at the Nou Camp will you?
Well thats just my opinion anyway =P
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Grognard, I have said it and I will say it again that I have nothing against one defensive performance which is the result of some other bad decision, but I do not want the team to play defensively with intent. If, as Fergie says, the intent was to counter attack as they did int Roma – fair enough. That was entertaining to some extend and got the result.
However to go out an defend from the start without any intetion of doing anything else bugs me and it tells me that Barcelona is a better team that Man Utd. It also takes away the tag of entertainers because you no longer entertain. It would be like the Harlem Globetrotters having a bad game. Nobody will look at them again…
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Couldnt agree more with you. ITs awful but I was hoping for a late barcelona goal. We played like a championship team, it was painful to see.
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Andrej; The score was 0-0, not 0-4 for Barcelona. Good grief! Get some perspective. If Barcelona is such good team how come they couldn’t break us down and even get one excellent scoring chance? We on the other hand got a penalty call, should have had a second handed to us and Carrick missed setting up two open guys in the 6 yard box for another. We easily could have won that game 2-0 or 3-0 without playing a good game offensively. Other than an Eto half chance, I cannot remember a great chance for Barca. The intention was to get a positive result. Mission accomplished. Some times you have to win ugly. Although that was not a victory, it went a long way to helping us take the tie and going to Moscow.
Look I too want them to play offensive football but I much more prefer them to with the Champions league. Would you rather be a Chelsea supporter and watch rubbish every frakken game? It was just one game. It’s not the end of the world for God’s sake. Sometimes there are United fans (me included) who act liked spoilt children who are having sugar fits from too much candy. We occasionally need a dose of humility to let us know that it is hard to get to the top and to stay there because somebody is always trying to knock you off. Barcelona may be having a poor season by their high standards but never think for a second that they are not a quality side with many game breakers.
If we carelessly came out to attack them, we would have fallen in to a trap that may have had us going home behind 2-0 or 3-1 on aggregate.
But instead the ball is in our court and we have total control of our destiny.
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for a change, i agree with grognard, we did not score but neither did they, the pressure is on them not us, barca are having a horrid season, and their last chance of glory is them beating us at old trafford. i really didnt see the hype about messi in the game, evra had him on lock-down. they only had one chance. at old trafford, we will play our best team(or possibly second best) in
vds
brown
rio
vidic
evra
hargreaves
carrick
anderson
ronny
rooney
nani
that team will be an all out attack, or we could play 4-4-2, with hargreaves at rwb(so he can send those crosses in) and andy carrick in the centre, regular 2 upfront.
any of those formations and i’ll be happy.
in other news, the first big name(kinda) signing of the summer has come forth in luka modric, who will be signing for spurs subject to a medical. Dunno, i love clubs signing players.
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I don’t know what horrified some of you more, United’s lack of offensive punch or that many of you have had to agree with my comments on this subject? Gee, I never thought my contributions were so disagreeable and hard to stomach. Are my thoughts and theories on the game so foreign to all of you that you have to poke fun at the times when you actually agree with me? Not a problem but it is a little disheartening to know that many of you think I’m full of shit most of the time. Especially when I feel I know a lot about the game and I take the game as well as all things United so seriously.
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So all you have to do is write something this outrageous, and you’ll get your post on the site… I don’t get it. Is outrageouness enough these days, or should you actually have something meaningful to say… I’d prefer the latter. To me, there’s a serious problem calling yourself a fan, when you wish for the opposition to score a late goal and possibly trash our season. Maybe this post should have been on as an outsider’s view?
Never have I read something this rediculous. The only thing that matters is the number of trophees as a result of the season, and I bet you’ll feel the same way and celebrate like a maniac, if we end up with both of them. And at that point, this article will be nothing short of hypocritic.
Playing like we did at Camp Nou. Well, we sure were poor on the ball and in attack, but that’s all a result of result-based tactics that SAF has aquired over the last 5 years. He’s simply learned that it doesn’t pay off playing attacking football away at the big arenas. When he plays attacking football and looses, he’s accused of being naive and not tactically clever enough. Now that he pulls off a major tactical strategy, he’s accused of not playing entertaining enough. I simply don’t get this spoiled attitude, I’m sorry.
To me, the game plan was masterfully carried out, since it was what we came for. Park and Rooney on the wings… our two most running players, are you kidding me. Of course they were played there to defend and not to attack like crazy. I’m confident, SAF would have preferred a goal, and we actually should have had one (or maybe even 2). What that tells me is the opportunity for us to move to the final. We nullified them at home and could easily have won despite not being in possession. I’m sure we’ll win at OT.
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Grognard – I actually think you make a very valid point about Barcelona’s strength. How good can they really be, when they weren’t able to pose a threat through an entire game. Credit to us for keeping them at bay.
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You know I really will be disappointed if united don’t come out and attack the living Hell out Chelski tomorrow. I am sick and tired of listening to the bullshit coming out of the mouth of Bela Lugosi’s (AV Grant) mouth of late. He honestly thinks he has a better team an that we are ripe for the picking. So help me I will jump off a bridge if AV Grant defeats SAF in a must win game. I could and should never happen because Fergie is a master tactician (despite Wednesday) and Grant is a master bater. My God, if that bunch of underachieving misfits with bad attitudes beat Manchester United, I will really have to reconsider my love for the great game. I will then know that the game has really gone to the dogs. Chelski may have a lot of talent but they are not a team. Therefore they should not do well against a lot of talent that plays like a “united” team. Anything worse would be an injustice to the game. If I’ve been very fair to them against a great team in Barcelona, just watch how my wrath will come down on them if they lose at the Bridge. Losing to Grant the Muppet will be 100% unacceptable. Manchester United wins 2-0 at the Bridge.
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has Darren Fletcher recovered frm injury? I sw he was very vocal in the build up to the match… ifso I think he’s are winner today!
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[Tomas]
So all you have to do is write something this outrageous, and you’ll get your post on the site… I don’t get it.
You serious? Or was it meant purely as a wind up? If not, do let me know of other posts that have been posted here just for the sake of outrageousness. I think too much is being read into Andrei wanting Barca score. Fine I don’t agree with that attitude, but he felt frustrated at the way we played — and it’s his opinion. This has ended up as a rant but that’s what this site is all about. It is, of course, your problem that you are not able to see another person’s opinion whether you agree with it or not.
I find it rather appalling that some fans reserve the right to judge who’s a real fan just because their opinion of looking at the club differs from another. It just sounds so self righteous!
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Can too much be read into someone saying he wishes the opposition scores? Not in my world.
Of course I can see it’s his opinion, what else should it be. My post is just my opinion, and I guess that’s as valid as his, right? Everything in here is opinion, and it’s my opinion that stating, you wish the opposition would score, makes you less of a fan.
I don’t meen to disrepect you or anyone else, I was just appalled by what I read and had to write, what I thought of it. Yes maybe it’s self righteous, but self righteousness comes in many forms, and in its own way, the article is too.
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Stating opinions is okay. Scoffing at his opinion is a whole different issue. I didn’t take issue with what your opinion was. Saying someone is not a fan is an insult to the person for the effort he put into the article. Surely he is a Manchester United fan.
Even if you don’t agree with his opinion, you could justify it. But more than that, purely based on the article you insulted the site by saying anyone can post bullshit on here. That’s not an opinion based on sound logic, but a random statement without much of a basis of thought. Even that is agreeable because criticism of the site I can take. Because it helps improve this site.
However, you are not allowed to pass opinions on fellow commenters, and I’ve made this clear several times over.
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If a more attacking approach is to be employed next leg we need fresh players. I hope we rest some players against Chelsea (especially Rooney who looks a bit injured, Hargreaves…who can go down with an injury at any minute, Vidic as he is coming back from a virus, and Nani as he is also coming back from an injury. We still have the squad quality to beat them. Something like:
EVDS
Brown Rio Pique Evra
Anderson Carrick Scholes
Ronaldo Tevez Giggs/Park
Rooney and Nani can be given a run around in the last twenty
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