Feb 04
A Return to Roundups
It hasn’t been a good weekend, has it? Not only did United drop points, but when I briefly shifted my attention to NFL and the New England Patriots, they choked against the New York Giants — so much for going unbeaten all season. A really bad weekend, I tell you.
Anyway, after a brief hiatus from the customary daily roundups we return to it once again. Sit back, pick up your coffee (if it’s morning in your timezone) and read on.
Now this rumour originated in the News of the World (NOTW), also known as LBJE (or the Last Bastion of Journalistic Excellence), so you know the amount of salt you need to pinch before taking this news in. The news however was picked by others like the Lancashire Evening Post, for instance, but I would like to hear it from BBC or the horse’s mouth before seriously considering this. Till then amuse yourselves by reading up the research work done by the folks at NOTW, some of which include their estimation of the number of hookers Ronaldo can now spend his spare time with.
United’s Jose Bosingwa interest
This player has been linked with us in the past and is now being linked with us again. Apparently he’s worth £15 million if some reports are to be believed. Being Portuguese, it is obvious that Carlos Quieroz is again behind this. Not that I am too concerned about another non-British player entering our ranks, but at £15m I would rather take Alan Hutton (who was available for £9m). But now that he’s joined the Hotspurts, there is really no point talking about the Scot.
Bosingwa, meanwhile, was ‘flattered’ by United’s interest. Who wouldn’t be?
More Portugal related news, as the Portuguese FA has urged Ronaldo to continue with Manchester United. They think that he’s happy with the hookers to play here. Now this is new, I must admit. We have seen a lot of people, twats to be accurate, who have been begging Ronaldo to move to Spain. It’s nice to see someone other than the club asking Ronaldo to stay at United. He’s been a star here — there is no doubt that he could be one in Spain too (which would actually appreciate some of his diving) — but he has settled well into a system where he’s become the key player even amongst other illustrious colleagues.
And before I sign off for the day, let me link to an article written by Alan Green — yes that same Scouse-loving, toad-faced Alan Green — who finally thinks that Ronaldo is a rather good player. I don’t know why I even linked to the article, but it’s actually a slow day. Plus I am not really happy with the prospect of another Monday, and another long week ahead of me.
Cheerio. How was your weekend, by the way?
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February 4th, 2008 at 11:10
what a terrible weekend for my sports teams, firts man utd play shit, then pato and kaka are injured for brasil, now new england choke, GRRRRRRR,
February 4th, 2008 at 13:46
redranter,u cant hve your cake and eat it too.do u want united to do well or u want british players at united?if u realise british players are too limited in skill thats why every time we have to applaud their work rate.what rooney does in thee moves,ronaldo does in one without breaking a sweat.
anyways.what we need is a team earning their places,not their nationalities.tell me.which rightback would u buy from britain?or if u were offered gerrard and cesc?the more u moan about british players the more we shall have days like saturday.
mr muhozi,are u by any means related to museveni?
February 4th, 2008 at 14:06
Doni Brasco:
All RR said was “Not that I am too concerned about another non-British player entering our ranks, but at £15m I would rather take Alan Hutton”
It means that he considers spending less for an equally good player.. It is irrespective of nationality… Also being British also helps when there are derbies(as they understand the rivalries) and they can adapt to the conditions better.. they are all important considerations to be made while buying a player…
Also do not compare Rooney and Ronaldo.. their comparision cannot be made….
British players are not limited in skill, they are just not brought up properly once they hit the 1st team level…
as far as a RB from England, search and you shall find.. the place is not devoid of players. How can you naturally assume Boswinga or for that matter Lahm is and will be a better player than hutton?
February 4th, 2008 at 14:12
RR, You say that you would have liked Hutton to come to United but now that he has moved to spurs there is no point. I believe that in the summer we make a move for a spurs defender, not Hutton but Bale whom I am a big admirer of. He started the season very well however has had a injury which had kept him out for a long time. Now with spurs getting Hutton i feel that they would be willing to release Bale but there is the problem they have with Chimbonda but i would love to see Bale in the United team next year. Bale also being British
February 4th, 2008 at 14:51
Ustav,thats exactly my point.alan hutton was also an unknown until the euros.we are going to make the same mistake like we did on hagreaves.before the world cup,he ws the sub from bayern calling on english teams to get him.a few matches in the orld cup and he is worth 18 million.a defensive midfielder whose only asset is breaking down ply.
Am not saying british players are shite but am sure they come with excess baggage with the press and all.fergie has tried them,fletcher is one of the best in scotland,liam miller from ireland, oshea….apart from lampard and mabe gerrard,who would u want in?
forgive me to say it but if rooney was not english,would fans want him to start or would he be mentioned in the same breath as scholes and giggs this seaon.
all of a sudden we have people slating fergie for not playing him in his favourite position and we are like which one?
he is a striker and should score.he doesnt but he is british.its blasphemy talking about it because he is who he is.
long storry short,players should play on merit not coz they hold their countries hopes.
February 4th, 2008 at 15:13
Agree with the merit thing… Buying players should be only on basis merit irrespective of nationality..
Although i still would give Rooney some time before i ask for him to start on the bench…
I would never have lampard in my team, probably ashley young..but thats a different discussion altogether…
me thinks this is the first time people have agreed in long…
February 4th, 2008 at 15:18
[donibrasco]
Read my comment again. Alan hutton was actually cheaper than Bosingwa. He was valued at 9m and he just had an excellent game against us - kept Ronaldo and Giggs at bay. I would imagine that to be a better value for money than 15m for a right back who’s been good in the Portuguese league. What I am saying is that Hutton could have been bought when it appeared that he might have rejected Spurs in the hope of securing a move to United. And yes, he didn’t have a great game just with Scotland and us, he did well even against Barcelona for Rangers. There has been substantial evidence of him delivering on the big stage. Bosingwa — well I really don’t know too much about him, which is why I would have preferred Hutton. But, as I again said, no point discussing about it now. It was just my opinion on the transfer. There is no attempt at having the cake and eating it too as you see it.
And let me set this straight, I am not big on the ‘buy British’ thing. It’s great if a British talent comes along for the right price, but merit is the more important metric in deciding to buy a player.
February 4th, 2008 at 15:28
Why is everybody on Rooney’s case?????
I admit he is not scoring at the moment. I admit he had a bad game on Saterday. What I cannot admit is he now deserves to be benched because now he is substandard???
If you want a striker to hit form, how do you do it? By placing him on the subs bench? And that while we have no other strikers to replace him with? Silly reasoning don’t you think?
Someone mentioned last week that he is a striker and his job is to score. I Agree. BUT, this is United and we play a ‘little’ bit differently to what Chelsea/Arsenal/Pool and the rest play. If that striker argument holds, then the winger argument should also hold…Ronaldo is a winger, his job is to supply. When last did he supply? Wtf is he doing taking shots when our strikers are in good goal-scoring positions? At the moment, we don’t have ’strikers’ in our team, we have ‘forwards’. (the fact that Rooney got No10 is a master-stroke by SAF, but does not mean we now have ’strikers’.
Rooney is not in the team because of his ‘work-rate’! He is in the team for his creativity, vision and drive. We have no-one better at the moment (even though he does not score any goals). The only person that can match him in that is Carlito, and even he got stick until about 2-3 weeks ago by some fans because he ‘is too wasteful’… strange don’t you guys think?
Do you guys realise that without Rooney and Carlito, Ronaldo will NEVER get into the positions that he does.
Leave it to SAF. He can ususally judge when a player is not performing.
February 4th, 2008 at 15:33
karl, u r absolutely correct.. the only thing where these cricisms are stemming from is the fact that apart from ronaldo and tevez, no one can seem to get into scoresheets..
February 4th, 2008 at 15:46
I know this ‘relying on Ronaldo to score’ is a bit worrying.
But, trust me, if SAF saw it as a problem, HE WOULD HAVE bought Berbatov (regardless of the asking price).
What I just find sill is, a few months ago, it was all Rooney and Ronaldo! Rooney and Ronaldo!
Then, it was Rooney and Tevez! greatest partnership ever! Rooney and Tevez!
Now…it’s…Rooney must die!!!
WTF!!!
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Form is temporary…Class is PERMANENT!!!
February 4th, 2008 at 16:22
about the whole right back position question, i always thought fergie was holding off purchasing another right back because of the brazilian twins coming in. hopefully fabio or rafael will be good enough to play in that position.
February 4th, 2008 at 17:16
how was hargreaves a sub at bayern?
February 4th, 2008 at 17:42
Here’s a link to a Times article that I found interesting. Obviously, Barnes is a reluctant admirer of Ronny’s talents.
February 4th, 2008 at 18:28
donibrasco, that name does not ring a bell sorry,
southroy, your post has no link
and karl fantastic analysis, i wish all fans were like you, go to a patriot forum right now, they want bellichick (pats SAF) to be fired, or tom brady (pats rooney/ronaldo/scholes) to be axed and so on and so forth, its disgusting how fickle fans can be, but that’s life though, people have realised you win some, you lose some,
February 4th, 2008 at 18:32
Manucho is a good player.What a left foot
February 4th, 2008 at 18:35
Donibrasco you assume people support Rooney because he’s english, yet very few of the people on this are actually english or support England, so that argument doesn’t hold much water here. If you’re trying to say that he shoud be benched for having a few bad games then you obviously have very short-term memory or you are one of those very fickle fans as he and Tevez were playing brilliantly together before, and then before he got injured he was on great form, so yes he is probably not playing as well as we would like but is he not still one of our best players? English or not he’s a fantastic player.
February 4th, 2008 at 18:46
Mr muhozi, its not being fickle fans,its realising something that is clear to all except you fans who dont want to believe the truth.Rooney is underperforming and has been for some time.When he under performs you should recognise it,and not call it ‘work rate’ blah blah blah…he is a great player when he is on form but his form these days comes scarcely and when he gets injured it takes him far too long to get his touch back.I love rooney but im not blind to his poor performances.
February 4th, 2008 at 18:49
manucho, get him, NOW…, rooney is playing poor, you cant deny it.
February 4th, 2008 at 18:54
Conor, how many goals has the partnership given united?
February 4th, 2008 at 18:56
What a goal from manucho!
February 4th, 2008 at 19:06
23 i think taehr, 13 from no.32, and 10 for roo.
February 4th, 2008 at 19:09
Taehr, I’m not sure, around 20 goals? But thats just looking at stats, performances aren’t accurately measured in stats. I’m sure plenty of people would be happy to just let Rooney stay on the bench and Berbatov play ahead of him then? Or no wait, at the start of the season he only scored like 3 goals in around 15 games, if he done that for us we’d probably have to sell him then! I have no problem that people are annoyed at Rooney underperforming, but the fact is we haven’t got anyone better to play and it’s obvious he has got plenty of ability. I’m sorry but I can think of plenty of top teams who would take Rooney: Inter, Arsenal, Liverpool, Roma; he would get into the first team of all of them, and he would be pushing for a regular place among the rest of the top teams. Its not Manchester United or English bias, its common sense.
February 4th, 2008 at 19:18
conor, pool dont count, atleast not under mr.rotation.
February 4th, 2008 at 19:25
Manucho is a goal machine!!! please put a link on for a video of the goal asap please! thanks
February 4th, 2008 at 19:30
i can not believe all of you people who are putting Rooney down you just wait until he scores a wonder goal against arsenal in the cup and you will all be singing his praises! So what if he hasn’t found the back of the net all strikers go through a period like that IT’S NORMAL he will soon be out of it and start banging the goals in left right and center!
February 4th, 2008 at 19:42
Well it was more central and probably a little further out but it was fantastic! I’m sure he’ll still need a good half a year at least to even be considered in our first team though because Angola don’t seem to know how to keep the ball so our style of play will be alot more different than what he is used to. Looks good so far though
February 4th, 2008 at 20:22
thanks Dan and Conor
February 4th, 2008 at 20:23
just so happy/ releived to see that he can actually hit a dig
February 4th, 2008 at 20:23
No i meant the ‘partnership’ between them, like one-twos and that sort of thing.the point im trying to make is that the two combined well for about 4 or 5 games but thats it. But its been in the news ever since.Since then its been ronaldo ronaldo ronaldo…and ronaldo.Im not sayin sell rooney for christs sake! All im saying is he shouldnt be excused from playing like shit and then people say its his work rate or his vision because frankly he hasnt scored much or created much.Im sure though hel come good after his enforced break though.God I wish we could just appeal for manuchos dam work permit now.He is like drogba and adebayor into one.I was wondering about his ability on the ground but todays strike shows he is pretty good.He also has good pace as he showed when he broke through for the chance he missed at the beginning of the 2nd half.With saha not their and rooney off form and tevez tired,we could really do with another striker.Sometimes I wish sir alex didnt have as much faith in people like saha,it wouldnt hurt to try to bring him in early would it?im sure with these goals a work permit would be easier.4 in 4 games?
February 4th, 2008 at 20:28
Manucho looks like an amazing player! Today is the first time I watched him play a whole game. Hes fast, great shot with both feet, tall and good in the air.
And about this Rooney situation, I think he is an amazing player. I think most of the people that say Rooney should be subbed or is shite, can only have watched United this season. And maybe just for a month or two. Look at his work rate, finishing and passing and youll see that he is world class, one of the top ten in the world! Hes one of the best players in the world, you guys need to understand that. I would choose him over Torres, Berbatov or Drogba everyday!
February 4th, 2008 at 20:39
Goal of the tournament!!!
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/1752160
February 4th, 2008 at 20:42
Who dan? the link for me goes to the website
February 4th, 2008 at 20:47
copy and paste the whole link
February 4th, 2008 at 21:07
Taehr it was for a lot longer than 5 or 6 games. You would have to include everything that Rooney and Tevez do together to talk about their partnership such as make space for each other and everyone else to allow spaces to be created for others to score goals, Rooneys and Tevez’s main strengths can often go unnoticed yet their main weaknesses can be easily pinpointed and attacked, neither are great finishers but that doesn’t matter.
No-one said he shouldn’t be criticised just because he is who he is and he’s English, thats just your perception at the others’ lack of criticism, but really its because whats the point in talking badly about him when we all know he will come good? It’s all fair enough saying maybe O’Shea or Fletcher are never going to be that great but they are appreciated for their attitudes, but Rooney is appreciated for his attitude as well as his overall ability. It’s along the same lines as now everyone seems to think Manucho is great, but if he doesn’t score in his first season everyone will be like he’s just another Dong blah blah blah. I see no point in saying “Rooneys playing crap, everyone else must agree!” which seems to be the overall opinion from some people, imagine now if Ronaldo goes back to being like he was and stops scoring goals everyone gets on his back again, don’t you think it seems stupid after he won the premiership for us, with a lot of help from Rooney may I add, that we just forget about everything else and start slating him?
February 4th, 2008 at 21:57
Taher- im not saying neither rooney is playing badly nor great, but what i hate are those fans that are like, OMG ROONEY SUCKS GET (insert striker) then rooney scores- rooney is the best, we dont need (insert striker) as a man utd fan it disgusts me to see people act like that, they just glory hunting fans that would be better suited at real madrid, because this team needs fan to support them through thick and thin, just like the opening 3 games of the season we had 1/9 points people were asking for fergie to be axed, now look how we have transformed, and they are back to loving him, its really bad and fans need to stop it,
February 4th, 2008 at 22:00
Rooney has lost form and its not unreasonable to ask questions and voice dissent. This is all in hope that he returns to good form and we eat our words. Its just as valid to question his constant/unerring starting lineup status. He needs to be bench to learned that should he desire to start he has to somehow raise his performances. That’s why you bench a player!! And the frustrating thing about Rooney is htat he does it all….until the finish. Whether its instinct, petulence or lack of concetration something needs to happen with him to change his finishing. I’m not afraid to say that I am frustrated by Rooney. It doesn’t mean I don’t like him or value him as a an asset to the team.
February 4th, 2008 at 22:31
I’m sorry Abu so you think Rooney will try harder if he is benched for a few games? You do realise that Rooney is the hardest working player in our team, and that includes Tevez? Think about it, benching him will not help anyone and I’m sorry but why voice dissent if he’s doing everything he can? He’s done this before so many times! It’s something that we should be used to by now, Rooney hadn’t scored in something like 8 games and then he scored a hat-trick against Bolton, then I think he went on another run of games when we didn’t score for I think 5 games, nothing we can do about it. If he wasn’t trying fair enough, but he is. And about his ‘unerring starting lineup status’, im sure he would’ve been given some rest now if we had anyone to rotate him with, but there just isn’t anyone ready to step up and take his place, unless you think Welbeck is ready, which is very optimistic.
February 4th, 2008 at 23:33
look… first of all lets get this straight…. rooney is an excellent player and all this talk about him being played only because he is english and that he shuld be benched is utter crap….. his movement is good, his passing is good and even though he isnt scoring, he is a vital part of the attack and thats the reason SAF plays him in every game….
that said, something has to be done about his form in front of goal….. when he ws in the midst of that terrific run of form between the two injuries, you culd see that he ws confident in front of goal… relaxed and only looking to score… right now i see him and i can see that he’s snatching at chances and constantly in two minds…. the gaffer has to get him to calm down…….
he gets to sit a game out and hopefully he can leave this form behind when he comes back against arsenal……
February 5th, 2008 at 8:57
perharps you are refusing to accept the problem at hand.if u realise,we have been relying on ronaldo for a long spell and tevez too.we need a plyer to perform the way we know he can.rooney is not a bad player neither is he a great player.just good.my point is maybe he raised the bar too high as a teenager and has not been able to hit it since.
the problem to me seems to be his assured number every game regardless of how he plays.take an example of the roma game where he was taken to captain a side that was already through and all the srars were rested.
benching someone does not mean he has lost it.thats how young players are treated so they come with hunger to earn their places.otherwise assuring a person a place will mean he is the finished article and automatically,he will never improve.
as united fans, we may hope he comes good.but honestly,do u think other teams are in awe of him?that said, ilove rooney but am sorry his development is going to be distructed by automatic selection.
and pliz do not refer to people as fickle fans coz they say a thing about a player.i want anyone who says rooney isnt underperforming to say so.or if we get a striker now good enough to start,who do you bench.rooney or tevez>
February 5th, 2008 at 9:30
Doni Brasco
rooney IS a GREAT player… don’t think many can even question that.. When he hits form, his all round contribution is tremendous and not just “good”
February 5th, 2008 at 10:24
ROONEY Will start banging them in again after the city lay off trust me…
Even if he doesn’t what he brings to the team is something similar to what Keane and even Cantona
brought to the team and that is presence…
Everyone doubting him should just go get fucked
February 5th, 2008 at 10:30
@shannon..
although i agree with you, don’t abuse other coz they have a right to opnion…
February 5th, 2008 at 11:08
Hello everybody…
I’m a little bit late to give my opinion on the game against Spurs, but after a game like that I just don’t feel like writing… I even stop reading football news to concentrate on the real word just to get over it. I said before that Anderson was going to be a better player than Scholes sooner rather than later, but that moment has already come. The guy is JUST GREAT… better than Scholes, Carrick or Hargreaves. He can run at defenders, makes great passes, has great vision, is fast and can shoot. I hear you all saying that Scholes has goals in him, but it’s been a long time since he last scored for us (and not because he hasn’t played).
Anderson should start EVERY GAME from now on with the other miedfielder depending from the team we play. If we play him with Scholes than Andy should have a more defensive role, because Scholes can do a lot of damage up front if he doesn’t burn his legs before geting there. If we play him with Hargreaves than the roles should be inverted. Andy and Carrick can change roles constantly and that’s why they can be a little more free, but only against easy opposition.
We should NEVER field a team with Scholes and Hargreaves in the middle. Hargreaves doesn’s have the vision and the only thing he does with the ball is run with it from right to left just to give it to the nearest player. I don’t know if you have noticed it, but against Spurs all our front men (Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez) were being man-marked and that leaves spaces… spaces which neither Scholes or Hargreaves were able to use. Fergie saw that two, but he thought Carrick was the man to correct this and he got it all wrong.
Imagine what we could have done with Andy and Scholes for the first 20 minutes of the second half and than Carrick and Anderson (how we actually ended up playing) for the las half hour or so. That makes the point even harder to swallow, because if we had started to press them like we did at the end we could have taken a victory with us.
But don’t worry… after a little bit of meditation I am sure we will return to the top of the league come Monday. We WILL win the derby game and Arsenal will LOSE against Blackburn. You read well, because the are going to lose. Don’t ask why, cause i’ts just a hunch, but I usually get them right.
Bye
February 5th, 2008 at 13:33
its very amusing the language people like shannon use when it comes to a sensitive subject9rooney0.if i have to repeat myself,rooney is a good player not great.when people talk of keane and cantona i doubt rooney has that influence on a team.i know he will score and hope he does it
soon,but i feel our love for the lad has blinded us.what i mean is idont want him to end up like kluivert(remember him….)a veteran at 24,wasted.young players need to be moulded.a few of them like ronaldo and fabregas are exceptions but even them had to be moulded.cesc had to wait for vieira and edu,for ronaldo,he had to fight for the wing with solskjear and fletcher.it didnt help that away fans were hostile.
rooney on the other hand has been named every time he is fit even brteaking up the van/saha partnership
that said,am not the enemy,ilove him as much as u do or even more shannon,just concerned.
February 5th, 2008 at 14:32
rooney is not playing well but do we have a better option really?
February 5th, 2008 at 14:54
@Shannon - even though people might criticise what you said, I find it rather funny
. not becuase I condone the language, but I can share your frustration (to be honest, I think it needed to be stated that way).
@Donibrasco - What exactly is your point? From what I read, it’s hard to make out. Be open. Are you saying:
* Rooney is a mediocre player and favoured by SAF?
* Rooney is a great player that need a rest?
* Rooney is a mediocre player that was mistakenly regarded as a great?
* Rooney is being favoured because he is English?
Give me your thoughts exactly - if not one of the above - so that we can properly address it, possibly reach agreement, and give the issue a rest.
February 5th, 2008 at 14:58
Spot on Ian
February 5th, 2008 at 15:42
Rooney is one of the 10 best players in the world!
This is my top ten list at the moment:
1.C.Ronaldo
2.Kaka
3.Messi
4.Fabregas
5.Ibrahimovic
6.Rooney
7.Trezeget
8.Diego
9.Tvez
10.Raul
February 5th, 2008 at 15:50
i like the fact that your list has 3 united players…
but then i disagree that it has no defenders…
February 5th, 2008 at 15:51
im sorry for the spam.. but number 50.. its a half century///
February 5th, 2008 at 16:42
I see welbecks been given a squad number- 47.Does this mean anything?sunday?
February 5th, 2008 at 17:28
donibrasco - do you really see rooney burning out at 24? Kluivert was a lazy, uninterested idiot, rooney is very enthusiastic about the game and will play for a long time with man united. Abu said that rooney is frustrating because he does it all until the finish and that he should be benched because of it to get him to raise his game. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. I agree it’s frustrating, but if your saying he does everything else right then you can hardly accuse him of underperforming. It’s more important that he continues to get into these goalscoring positions, i would start getting concerned if the chances dry up. How can you question his constant inclusion in the starting line up. He’s the best forward in the team. He puts himself about. Very strong and quick. Direct and positive with the ball. Very clever. Great movement, dropping into space and running off the ball. Good passing. Eye for a through ball. Can adapt to play with any strike partner effectively. Work rate is exceptional - might not seem like a big deal to some people but it really puts opposition players under pressure and it has a great affect on teammates, so he is very influential. Also, do you really think rooney is happy with his scoring form? Do you think he needs to be dropped to remind him that he needs to improve in front of goal? Do you think he doesn’t mind how he plays because he believes he’s guaranteed a game anyway? Don’t think so.
February 5th, 2008 at 17:31
with saf saying he doesnt like ronny at stike, i am almost certain welbeck will be on the bench or even starting line-up for city. i have a strong, strong feeling about this, i bet if im wrong i’ll be seen as a dick head lol.
February 5th, 2008 at 17:37
looks like benjani’s last game for pomepey was against us, and his first game against city in also against us.
February 5th, 2008 at 18:42
karl,am saying he gets a rest and if he does not improve,then the ineviteble should happen.
tevez,about dropping in the midfield,why is it that if teams bring the game to us,the midfield is overrun?
bottom line he is a good player but top ten?
February 5th, 2008 at 18:58
there is a good article on a gooner blog about united.please read it if u can.its on arsenal news review.dont know how to copy the link.
February 5th, 2008 at 19:44
hey guys i just wanted to get your thoughts on something i heard on Setanta sports. The guy stated that Hargreaves’ career is already in jeopardy at United after that display agianst tottenham? what are youre thoughts?
February 5th, 2008 at 21:15
Mixed weekend for me LOL (Giants sympathiser here) but was really annoyed with the dropped points.
Bosingwa sounds good but is Danny Simpson that bad that we can’t wait for him to mature as a player? Gaz Nev wasn’t the best in his position either starting out but he made it his own over the years.
February 6th, 2008 at 1:44
Danny Simpson baby, quiet from all this talk he’s gonna do a copperfield and rise up from nowhere, well from the academy etc.. and plus rafael and fabio the brazilian fullback twins, we’re good, and not as in need of Hutton as we might have thought. But Saha looks to be on the way out, shame he cant stay fit, shame cos he’s shit hot when 100%
And Anderson has to be the hero for this year, although he aint scored - you know thats gonna go off when it happens; and it’ll probably spur him on for more.
p.s. Rooney - most selected player in 99% of starting (dream team) elevens accross the globe…..say no more, no need to worry about that, he’ll be reight.
Looking forward to the derby match, x
February 6th, 2008 at 4:08
Don’t worry about top ten players in the world…
I’m just a supporter of my team… Rooney i support more than most
but in general its cool to have opinions but if u support the club u
support them through thick and thin times… and i wonder if these guys
who are giving Rooney stick right now would even be supporting the team if
we were in third, or fourth position as we were a few seasons past.
February 6th, 2008 at 14:24
@donbrasco
“why is it that if teams bring the game to us,the midfield is overrun?”
- Erm, maybe thats because its usually 3 vs 5 in midfield (Ronaldo usually stays forward-to score goals).
“am saying he gets a rest and if he does not improve,then the ineviteble should happen”
So, You’re saying he is a mediocre player then… (only way I can interpret the ‘inevitble’ to happen because you don’t sell great players that add value).
I suppose that’s your opinion of him and I can respect that. I can assure you however that most of the footballing world would disagree with you.
I admit Rooney is not scoring like we expect him to. BUT, football is much more than just scoring goals (in all fairness, it was never his strenght). He excells ithe other departments though. If you are only judged by the amount of goals that you score, then explain why Cantona is regarded as a true great and legend at United? (he did not score many goals either). Football is also a team sport. Ronaldo - for starters - would NEVER have gotten the amount of goals were it not for Rooney and Tevez’ contributions. Even Ronaldo (whom you now term great) were pressed by supporters to be sold before last season. The claims were that he was a ‘one-trick-pony’ that just loved to showboat. (Thank God SAF did not listen to the fans then but knew better).
Unless you only started watching United games recently, you will find that before his last injury, he even ‘outperformed’ / outshone Tevez (and this coming from arguably the biggest Tevez supporter). This would be the same Tevez that people are drawing comparisons to the great Maradonna. Even the man himself (Diego that is) claimed Rooney as the best player in the world (ahead of his beloved Tevez whom he personally know).
In conclusion, SAF know how to deal with this. He’s done it before. I can remember getting frustrated at the ’special’ attention Beckham used to get when not performing, but SAF knew how to get him through slumps.
I will trust him with Rooney as well. But, make no mistake, Rooney is a SPECIAL talent football. . Let’s hope he achieves more than the previous English talent before him, his nickname sake, Gazza.