Jan 31
Arsenal v Man Utd: Preview
We kick off today’s preview with a brief word on David Gill’s interview with BBC Sport [read it in full, here]
In the interview he talks Rooney, Ferguson, the ownership, the transfer funds, among other things, and it’s unlikely we’re bound to know something earth-shatteringly new. Such it goes.
“Unless Alex agreed to it, we would not accept an offer, regardless of the value, for a player we want to keep,” is what he said about Rooney and the rumours swirling around about his sale.
Rooney himself was on record saying he won’t be leaving United. And I, for one, believe him. I’ve seen past interviews of the lad, and he’s said stuff to the effect of, “can you really see me play anywhere outside England?” And the only way I can every see Rooney leave is if the board forced Ferguson’s hand.
He spoke about how the £500m debts are a misconception and stressed that the Glazers were in this for the long run. However the example he cited was a bad one:
“They will only get value back by ensuring the team continues to be successful, continues to attract exciting players and continues to produce results off the pitch. The Glazer family bought (American football team) the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1995 and 15 years later, they still own that – they are in it for the long-term.”
Just google Tampa Bay Buccaneers finances or something to that effect, and you’ll see what kind of hell their fans are going through.
Anyway, moving on to more pressing matters, there’s a match today against Arsenal and the most significant result last week was Arsenal’s draw at Villa Park. This gives us the chance to go four points over the gunners, and close our gap on league leaders, Chelsea. Chelsea, who went top thanks to a header from “his mate’s” wife-shagger and England’s Brave, John Terry. I am not wasting inches going into the wheres and whys he shouldn’t carry on as England captain, but you’d have thought the book of reasons to hate John Terry was already full by now when, all of a sudden, you now have enough scope for a sequel.
A reasonable article to lead this off should be the one by Amy Lawrence of the Guardian — a well known Arsenal fan — who highlights the main stars of this clash: Fabregas (who’s still only 22!) and Rooney (who’s 24, although I’d have thought he was younger) Of course, it does resort a bit towards cliches we’ve become all too familiar with; Fabregas and Fergie — ‘pizzagate’, Rooney and Wenger — the number of times he’s dominated Arsenal.
Still, read it as you attempt to whet your appetite ahead of the match.
A quickie — read this piece where Keith Harris, a takeover-broker and a United fan, says he’s been approached by several rich United fan investors. I’ll try to write up something detailed on this later on, but do read it if you have the time.
Regarding the starting XI, I’m convinced Ferguson will opt for a 4-5-1 formation — one that he has employed with much success recently. But it will no doubt, isolate Rooney up front. Nani should undoubtedly start, but he’ll be on the left while Valencia will start on the right. Fletcher, Carrick and one of either Anderson or Scholes will be the third mid fielder.
Vidic is reported to replace Ferdinand, who’ll begin the first of a ridiculous four-match suspension.
Arsenal have their share of injuries. Vermaelen was the latest casualty, in mid week. Which means, Sol Campbell could make a start, and hopefully Rooney will take full advantage of that.
Cesc Fabregas was on record as saying this is the biggest game of the season for him, and fair play to him. It’s a pretty important match for both sides in a statement-of-intent sort of way, although not necessarily a deal breaker as far as the title race goes.
Anyway, onto the predictions: 2-1 to United, I guess. Hopefully this proves to be yet another cracking game of football.
[Off I go to watch Federer play Murray and hopefully win yet another grand slam.]
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Tags: Game Preview
January 31st, 2010 at 11:31
Geez, I really can’t see us getting away with this one 2-1 without Rio. Will be interesting to see how Nani goes on the left, if he does get a start out there.
On another note, Murray looks like he’s breaking down. Guess it’s no. 16 for the Fed.
January 31st, 2010 at 11:31
Fantastic review,as I personally am a believer,the David Gill interview lifts my heart and confidence.
I previously had looked at the Tampa bay blogs and did my own research,its not encouraging but some people just are so destructive.
So looking forward to the match its going to be a fiesty affair.We simply cannot afford to loose and fall 7 points behind Chelski,if they win the game they will have in hand over us.
The Terry affair I believe will galvanise them so its up to us the Lads to do the buisness today.
We truly do need Darren to do a number on Fabregit and dont let him control the tempo of the match.I just hope Mr whinger plays Sol Campbell Wayne will have him for afternoon munchies.
My prediction 3.1
Come on you Reds.
January 31st, 2010 at 12:07
@Scotjimland: Those ‘Some People’ are realists mate, we don’t live in cloud cuckoo land, and we won’t more for our club than American leeches stripping us of every bit of profit we get to feed all their other profits companies and debts, and in the end we go down. These are geezers who couldn’t give a fuck about United, our history, or whether we ultimately succeed or go down the pan – as long as they have plundered their very last pound of flesh. They are NOT footballing people, we are just a very nice franchise to them. But Gill and Fergie should be ashamed of themselves on this issue, Gill sanctioned the Glazer buy out in the end, worked on the shareholders, and I believe he is answerable!
January 31st, 2010 at 12:23
I just read the David Gill interview, an he is scared shitless of fan power. United fans don’t normally make any sort of fuss, because we love Fergie and the team – but it is Gill’s words I think that wont change a thing.
January 31st, 2010 at 12:30
@CraigMc: Well said.
January 31st, 2010 at 12:57
Wow Lil man Nani coming out to the media full of the Fergie praises
. Mi man Nani says that SAF has really encouraged him the last two months, arm around shoulder, telling him he has the game and ability to make it at United 
. Says Fergie encouragement in this way has really boosted his morale 
. Am I missing something eh? What happened to all the rest of your time at United Lil man, when Fergie scapegoated you, United fans hated on you, and you were left in the leper, ‘ring your bell when you approach’ colony backbenches at OT. Please say you are not going to ler me down now mate, and give your best footballing years to come to all those Unappreciators! You are joining Ronnie in Spain – right??? 
January 31st, 2010 at 13:02
Eddy, FYI, the United reserves have travelled to Norway to play this side called Stabaek. Diouf and Obertan have travelled apparently.
Full team: Amos, Gray, Brown, Dudgeon, Gill, Obertan, Evans, Norwood, James, Brandy, Diouf.
Bench: Zieler, Moffatt, Possebon, Hewson, Stewart.
That certainly rules Diouf out for the Arsenal game.
January 31st, 2010 at 13:24
you guys can watch the live stream of this match here:
http://tv.indonewyork.com
great quality
January 31st, 2010 at 13:33
Spot on RR, I never could believe I had anymore hate in my body for John “JT” Terry and all of a sudden I find more in reserve.
I am somewhat nervous of the game today, it will be a real test and probably would take a point, but hopefully the win of Wednesday is the turning point of our season and the future European player of the year does the business for us again.
January 31st, 2010 at 14:00
I’m going to stay away from the Gill and Terry subjects and focus on the game.
We need to turn Campbell. He’s both slow on the turn and slow from a standing start. Our long balls to Rooney will be gobbled up by Campbell. We’ll need Anderson and Carrick’s through balls to be pin point and I think later in the both Berbatov and/or Owen could have huge roles to play in this game.
They’re full backs are poor and both Nani and Valencia need to exploit this. Ultimately I think this will be won in midfield. Allow Fabregas the option to run the middle of the park then we’ll loose this game
January 31st, 2010 at 14:21
Well it is obvious we will go for a 4-5-1. I just hope we play like we did in the second half of the City game, rather than the first half. Otherwise you are right, the long balls to Rooney will get swallowed up. But play smart balls through the middle and Rooney will run rings around their slow and ageing defence. Id also like to see Nani and Giggs cutting inside.
January 31st, 2010 at 14:33
@colver: I seems we have to go 4-5-1 in matches like these to match the other teams. Chelsea and Arsenal both play 4-5-1, and if we don’t we’ll probably loose out in midfield. Sucks to be Berbatov… just as he starts firing and people start spotting his runs he spends 3 weeks on the bench!
I’d expect us to line up as;
VDS
Brown Evans Vidic Evra
Carrick Anderson Fletcher
Valencia Rooney Nani
Anderson should start for his ability to shit on Fabregas. Fletcher will deal with everyone else, and Carrick can spray the big passes to Nani and Valencia wide.
We could have scored 5 or 6 against Arsenal at OT and should have done. They’ve got Fabregas back this time, but lost Vermaelen and Van Persie.
Rooney has to head straight for Sol Campbell at every opportunity and mug him off early. Maybe Sol will run off at half time and cry. Here’s hoping
January 31st, 2010 at 14:33
@colver:
Most probable line up
VDS
Brown Vidic Evans Evra
Valencia andy Fletcher Carrick Giggs
Rooney
January 31st, 2010 at 14:36
@Traverse: I dont think Sol will start for them.Vermalaen may play ,if not i think they will go with Song.
January 31st, 2010 at 14:50
@CraigMc: I hear your view, loud and clear Craig.
If you are trying to say I am not a realist, that’s fine.
What I cant understand is why the Chief Excutive and Sir Alex, would allow us the fan’s to be hoodwinked by the Glazer family.
Until I have more concrete evidence my support is firmly behind the club.
I see on your point 6 you are embracing Nani as normal, and thats to be applauded, but I am assuming you are continueing witn your POP’S at Looney Rooney.See the point there m8, it’s all about balance and measured opinion.
I hope you enjoy the game and we all get the result we desperately crave for.
LULU Love United Love United
January 31st, 2010 at 14:59
You can watch this game free by using free live streams here: http://bit.ly/ctMRdX
It’s Polish site, just scroll down for live streams. They will be available 30 – 15 minutes before kick off.
January 31st, 2010 at 15:23
speed speed speed… Campell will crumble, Gallas stumble, and their one-two passing tumble if we keep up the tempo
United to win it: 2-1 (most likely) or 4-3 (most exciting) or 1-0 (most boring)
GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!
January 31st, 2010 at 16:01
Off to the pub lads. Enjoy this epic match-to-be and have fun.
Hopefully we will rip Arsenal’s back to pieces.
Comon WAZZA!!!!!
One more thing – Rooney, better than Ronaldo (fact!)
January 31st, 2010 at 16:11
Anderson scoring the winning goal will be sensation
January 31st, 2010 at 16:17
vds
Rafael Brown Evans Evra
Nani Fletcher Carrick Scholes Park
Rooney
Where the fuck is Valecia?
January 31st, 2010 at 16:24
Vidic and Anderson out of Manchester UNited
January 31st, 2010 at 16:27
Official:
Van der Sar
Rafael Evans Brown Evra
Nani Fletcher Carrick Scholes Park
Rooney
Subs:
Kuszczak De Laet, Gibson, Valencia, Giggs, Owen, Berbatov
Somehow I’m more worried by our defense thna Park starting.
January 31st, 2010 at 16:31
@Red Ranter: I know, I was at the game!
Diouf scored two brilliant goals, Dudegons goal was class as well. Shit mood by the audience, kinda boring game but it was class to meet Ole and see the United reserves live.
Diouf – Class!
Possebon – He was shite!
Hope we don’t lose this game, invited some of my Arsenal mates to watch it at my place so it’s gonna be tensy!
COME ON UNITED!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 16:32
Where is Vidic?! Anderson?! Fucks sake, De Laet and Gibson are on the bench ahead of them!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 16:35
What about Arsenal line-up???Vermalaen is there or not???Can i believe that today’s line up means end of United career for Andy and Vidic???
January 31st, 2010 at 16:38
1 Manuel Almunia (G)
5 Thomas Vermaelen (CD-L)
10 William Gallas (CD-R)
22 Gaël Clichy (LB)
3 Bacary Sagna (RB)
17 Alexandre Song Billong (CM)
4 Cesc Fábregas (LM)
15 Denilson (RM)
8 Samir Nasri (ST)
23 Andrei Arshavin (LF)
7 Tomas Rosicky
January 31st, 2010 at 16:39
My fear from Arsenal is Arshavin. He can make a goal out of nowhere
January 31st, 2010 at 16:40
@owen: Song, Vermaelen and Fabregas are all there.
January 31st, 2010 at 16:45
Ive got a bad feeling about this game…Arsenal have a fairly full strength midfield with Nasri, Fabregas and Rosicky all capable of giving us hell. Id have much preferred Anderson to Scholes for this sort of game. Hell Id love a fully fit Hargreaves but that seems like a pipe dream. Arsenal are a completely different proposition from City, and Fletcher and Carrick will have to be on top of their games to stop us losing the midfield battle.
Campbell isn’t even in the squad, and if Rooney is isolated upfront even Gallas and Vermalen will be able to keep him quiet.
We need a BIG BIG game from Nani, who apart from Rooney and Evra is our only real attacking outlet. This is his chance to repay his managers faith and secure his place in the team.
Id have preferred Valencia or Giggs over Park on the wing. But Park at least will keep Nasri quiet, who has caused us problems in the past.
It is going to be a case of keeping things tight, pressing Arsenal so they can’t play their game then hoping for some Nani-Rooney-Evra magic.
January 31st, 2010 at 16:48
Like I wrote in the previous thread, the day of reckoning is coming. The glazer’s time as owners is coming to an end whether they want to believe it or not. And after they are gone, those who were loyal to them or who bent over and took it up the ass from them will have their day of reckoning. Mr. Gill, I say dust off your CV and get ready to look for new work. Your pink slip is around the corner.
January 31st, 2010 at 16:51
@CraigMc: This is a Nani tactic to get himself playing time in order to attract more clubs for a bidding war in the summer. Nani I am sure wants out of here. Ronaldo is gone, Anderson is sure as gone and he will no longer want to be there either. He just grew up and got smart at the end and realized there is a smart way in which one can force his departure to a team more to his choice.
January 31st, 2010 at 16:52
Park is there b/c Rafael is a defensive liability and Park will strengthen the defensive right side — that is why Valencia is not playing.
Vidic is still not fit. Brown and Evans could prove our weakness in this game but hopefully VDS can help them out.
Fergie has been famous for rotating the side and besides suspended Ferdinand only Park was not in the City game.
We can win with this team — Vermaelen is not 100% fit and Arsenal are playing without a designated out and out striker/forward (Arshaving a striker??).
Mission: Play like we did 2nd half against City and shut down Arshavin and Fabregas going forward and we will win this game!!!
COME ON UNITED! BELIEVE!
January 31st, 2010 at 16:55
4-5-1 at the Emirates = 1-2 loss. In fact it could be even worse than 1-2. I’ve got a bad feeling about this. Today is the day our title chances officially crash. Sorry for the downer mates, I just can’t help feeling like this. It’s up to Fergie to prove to me that I am wrong. When was the last time we actually beat a top 4 club on the road?
January 31st, 2010 at 16:55
@Grognard: I am sure Fergie has no clue what Nani’s options are
… sometimes you take Fergie for a fool.
Nani is paid to play football. When he plays well, he starts. When he sucks, he sits on the bench. Fergie wants to win games and I am sure he picks players of the same mould.
January 31st, 2010 at 16:56
arsene wenger has just said in his programming notes it’s a battle of midfield and praised rooney. I say fletcher will show him who the master of midfield is.
January 31st, 2010 at 16:58
@Grognard: Don’t forget… football games are 90 minutes.
Let’s talk after the game about title chances and proving someone right or wrong.
United to win it 2-1 — why? — because United can always win!
January 31st, 2010 at 16:58
@owen: Anderson getting a short on goal would be a sensation. Myself, I’d bet for row 45, seat 16 behind the goal.
January 31st, 2010 at 16:58
@vanderberg: Rooney + Fletcher = Fletcheroo!
Let’s go get us an Arsenal double!
January 31st, 2010 at 16:59
Attack attack,
Attack attack attack!
January 31st, 2010 at 17:01
@[OPTI]Madschester United: I wasn’t commenting about Fergie or his usage of Nani. I was making a comment that Nani made positive comments about Fergie which are a 180 from his comments months ago. Does a person change his stripes over night? No. He is simply being smart about how to deal with his situation and his manager. As to what Fergie does with Nani, that’s irrelevant. I firmly believe that if a good opportunity arrives to play in Spain or Italy, Nani will jump at it.
January 31st, 2010 at 17:03
@[OPTI]Madschester United: Hey mate, It’s not against the law to offer my feelings about what I think will happen. Nobody said that my predicitions are written in stone or are gospel. I’m just stating my gut feeling on the matter. So sue me.
January 31st, 2010 at 17:04
@[OPTI]Madschester United: I prefer Fletcherooney. Has an Italian feel to it.
January 31st, 2010 at 17:05
@[OPTI]Madschester United: It will probably be more like
back pass, back pass, back pass, back pass, back pass etc etc etc.
January 31st, 2010 at 17:11
In our favour Arsenal for all their pretty midfield play are a bit toothless upfront. Im also impressed that Fletcher and Carrick are getting forward more than usual and Nani is getting a lot of the ball.
Our main problem is going to be getting opened up on the break. We are getting most of the play so far, but Arsenal look so dangerous on the break.
January 31st, 2010 at 17:14
Wow. What I would give to have Arshavin on our team sheet! He made Brown look very foolish just then
January 31st, 2010 at 17:34
Take it away Craig
January 31st, 2010 at 17:35
WOW Nani is really showing what he can do. We are really looking like an attacking force again! I was expecting boring defensive football, and instead Ferguson served up this delight to the senses.
January 31st, 2010 at 17:38
Absolutely amazing. We are ripping Arsenal apart. Oh Fergie why did you have so little faith in Nani. He is destroying Arsenal
January 31st, 2010 at 17:40
NEWSBREAK!!! It’s official, United have bought back Ronaldo. Yes he has a bit more of a Spanish tan but he’s back.
Seriously though, Nani is fucking awesome today. Craig, keep an extra box of diapers around because you will be pissing yourself from uncontrolable joy today. You are being vindicated my friend for your years of loyalty to that boy.
January 31st, 2010 at 17:43
We have got to hang on till the interval. Crucial passage of time.
January 31st, 2010 at 17:44
Note also the contribution from Carrick, who as usual is coming good in the second half of the season. And what a strike from Rooney. It would not surprise me if Rooney won the golden boot this season.
Arsenal just cannot cope with our movement.
This is the real reason why Berbatov never fit in. We always play best at a high tempo
January 31st, 2010 at 17:51
NANI IS IN FRECKIN RAPE MODE!!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 17:51
@colver: Truthfully mate, Nani is a different player now. Notice how he runs at defenders and how he is playing at pace as opposed to his standing around from the past. A lot of it is confidence, a lot of it is being healthy but I think most of it is because he is playing on his favored right side. I also think he knows he has to let his nervousness and disappointment go and he needs to prove himself or he’s headed back to Portugal.
January 31st, 2010 at 17:51
wow after all the boring stuff we played this season, those last two games are really spoiling me.
January 31st, 2010 at 17:53
finally found a stream just in time to see that little russian cunt kick vds
cant wait to see nanis highlights
so much for shitty first halves
@Grognard: the new ronaldo once removed back again
January 31st, 2010 at 17:56
@colver:
To be fair, most of so-called United fans were so called to ditch him as soon as the transfer window opened.
As for me, I’ll just say that it feels damn good to be vindicated!!
January 31st, 2010 at 17:59
@Grognard:
If this is true Nani’s just doubled his value in the transfer market in 45 min.
Not that I think we’ll sell him!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:02
@colver: I’m sure you would find reason to fault berbatov for the haiti earthquake…
(Hint: United v/s Spurs last season 5-3)
January 31st, 2010 at 18:02
2nd goal attack break has been terrific. it’s like ronaldo(nani) and rooney breaking on a counter.
y does park play?
coz most asian fans only see big games and park gets into the team no matter what, saf has also thought about this. also park has played well aganist arsenal than other teams.
January 31st, 2010 at 18:04
You know I am against rape, I think it is a horrible thing that people should face death sentance for.
Nani, you should die!!!
But I actually love this rape, so I think I would kill the victim(Arsenal) this time… 
THIS IS AMAZING!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:05
Truly outstanding half of football. Blows away my worst case scenario as well as my true expectations. I laugh at Wenger. He’s got the money we don’t have, yet he refuses to go buy a Huntelaar or any striker for that matter considering all his strikers are injured. I thought we were negative playing 4-5-1, but Voyeur has gone with what I feel is nothing more than a 4-6-0 formation.
Amazing performance considering we are playing with only 9 men. Scholes has been a joke and is clearly outclassed speed wise in this game. Also, just exactly what role is Park playing out there other than his traditional landing on his ass whenever the ball is at his feet role? Had Nani’s cross that went in gotten over the Aluminum Foil Man, Park was right there to make a meal of it I’m sure. Thank god for their keeper.
Rooney and Nani have been amazing and world class and Fletcher and Carrick are doing a great job running the midfield. Our CB’s are doing well but Arsenal’s speed advantage has almost cost us on a few occasions. Big difference is the quality we have in goal compared to the Aluminum Foil Man who has never made a save in all his years at Arsenal.
January 31st, 2010 at 18:05
Do not underestimate the contributions of Scholes, Fletcher and Carrick. All too often our midfielders sit back and leave a huge gap between midfield and attack. But now they are getting forward, making telling passes and Nani and Rooney are flourishing as a result.
Nani does look a lot better on the right. He looks a lot more natural and comfortable. With his confidence high he looks unplayable. His dribble leading to the goal, well even Messi and Ronaldo could not have pulled that off!
I watched a replay of Rooney’s goal. It was like turning back the clock. A gut busting run from midfield as we countered with pace, took the shot early and what a goal.
I am near tears. After watching so much crap this season, I thought the team that delighted me in the glory days of 2007-8 was dead and buried. But we are playing absolutely delightful football today.
January 31st, 2010 at 18:05
@Grognard: maybe the competition with other up and comers was good for him he was always second to ronaldo and gigs but to get benched for park, obertan, valincia, tosic, wellbeck,…
Hopefully he realized that he is not the new ronaldo but he could put the time in practicing like ronaldo did and improve his game.
that said playing on the right seems to fit him like a glove
January 31st, 2010 at 18:06
RONANIO!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:06
@vanderberg: That must be the most dumbest first reason as to why Park plays big games. Asian fans only watch the big games? A little bit overboard don’t you think.
Fergie plays Park to provide more defensive cover against fullbacks like Sagna. That is all.
January 31st, 2010 at 18:07
fukin class, the Rooney goal is a Sky HD moment, keep it up lads!!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:11
Nico, sorry I will lay off Berbatov. But re the Spurs game, I believe it was Tevez who was the main architect of that comeback
Grognard, Park is our secret weapon against Arsenal. Champions League. Now today!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:11
@antsBoy
ops, i meant to say a bigger share of people watch big games when compared to other matches.
January 31st, 2010 at 18:13
@vanderberg: say my name
January 31st, 2010 at 18:13
Absolutely amazing!
Park traps the ball beautifully and then has the unmitigated gall to take a shot rather than pass, and then score as well. Who would have thunk it? Then again, as great as that was, if only Arsenal had a keeper on the pitch. That boy is pants.
January 31st, 2010 at 18:13
park the new, gigs
January 31st, 2010 at 18:20
someone has been putting steroids in nani and parks weaties
January 31st, 2010 at 18:21
Looks like we got our mojo back. Nani has risen like the phoenix from the flame.
UNITED ARE BACK!!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:25
damn im glad fabrigas sux or we would be in trouble
January 31st, 2010 at 18:26
one more goal to have same gd as chealscum
January 31st, 2010 at 18:26
@themec, the Phoenix Reds!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:28
fans chanting
are you citeh in disguise
January 31st, 2010 at 18:28
Nani has shone brightest, and Rooney too, but this is a team performance. We are passing the ball well, pressing Arsenal, running the game, our midfielders are getting forward, our defenders for the most part are keeping Arsenal quiet. We played the first half in top gear and Arsenal could not deal with us.
Now we have slowed down to second gear, got sloppy and Arsenal are getting more play. I do not want Arsenal getting a consolation goal or two. Lets finish the job properly and ideally get another goal or two!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:30
Giggs on for Scholes.
January 31st, 2010 at 18:33
@phoenix red: Oh yeah. Nice one.
January 31st, 2010 at 18:35
I love Rooney, but if he had passed to Giggs rather than going for the shot it could have been four!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:36
Can’t believe we’ve done this without Ferdinand or Vidic. My main worry before the game!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:38
Stupid. Sloppy play giving them a consolation goal sparing them some blushes
January 31st, 2010 at 18:48
Personally I think the turnaround in Nani is because of our change in attitude. With an attacking style Nani will tend to play well which is why he was so impressive in his first season for us. But during his second and third season Fergie was playing more cautious, defensive tactics and Nani withered. Predictably second half Nani had less of an impact as we switched to containment football.
What do people make of Berbatov’s new haircut. He looks a little bit like a Neville now!
January 31st, 2010 at 18:54
Mind blowingly awesome.Just FANTASTIC.Well played all the lads.
January 31st, 2010 at 18:58
should have been 5 nil but it will have to do
January 31st, 2010 at 18:59
@colver: What you on about mate – Nani didn’t play enough to WITHER
. Rooney back to his missing best – should have had a hat trick at the very least today 
January 31st, 2010 at 19:01
Who among you truly believes Vidic is injured – I mean come on – Fergie’s doghouse comes to mind – he is not injured, SAF is isolating him – question is WHY?.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:02
united hit 3 in 3-D
arsenal get a nice spanking 
January 31st, 2010 at 19:02
@CraigMc: That said, even Nani could have had a hat-trick. Good game for both of them though, and we won, that’s all that matters.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:02
Biggest win of the season bar none. Craig was always right about Nani, but certainly he has to fess up about what a total pratt he has been about Rooney? How bout it Craig! Rooney was fucking awesome his running his vision, his passing, and work rate were phenomenal. His striking was good too although he could have had one or two more.
Arsenal are true pretenders to the crown. That club will not win a thing until they get a true stopper in midfield, a striker who commands the box and a goalkeeper to man the net as opposed to that absolute muppet who does so right now. Come to think of it, we could use some players to but that new addition of this lad named Nani feels like a 30 million pound purchase right before the deadline to me. EVDS coming back in goal has made things feel a lot more secure even when Rio and Vidic aren’t in there.
4-5-1 yet tactically, Fergie got it right again like he did last season in the CL semi final. He cam to destroy Arsenal on the counter and he succeeded with two fantastic counter attacking goals and some hungry and strong performances by our entire midfield and a spectacular Rooney all alone up front. If you take Scholes out of the equation and you throw in a truly gifted midfielder or Makalele type like this Sossoko guy, and you will have a team that can beat anyone, as long as Rooney stays healthy and as long as Nani continues to remind us of Ronaldo. Well done lads and well done Fergie, you have made us all proud today and have helped us forget the other mess the club is embroiled in.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:03
@colver: True. Was thinking of his own selfish little person there.
And Berba nearly made you eat your words after nearly assisting Rooney for another beautiful counter.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:04
@CraigMc: Get lost you wind up merchant,
that’s my forte, yer man played outta his skin, suberb.Wayne was back on fire, and looks as if he has been taking speed training.Brilliant over all performance all above 8 marks.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:05
Woooooooooooooooooo 5 live sport commentators given what they called Majestic Nani MOTM. They called the Emirates, the Nani state, or Nani-rates
. Oh how you haterz are smarting now 
.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:07
@colver: True, tevez brought the initial energy to bring us back in the game, but in the end when the game needed class and assists berbatov also shone. Anyway, Rooney was the actual MOTM that day! Just my point that berbatov not being able to play a fast paced game and counters are just a myth, as he nearly showed again tonight in 5 min.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:08
I’ll take it… what a game and how amazing were the first 75 minutes! Outstanding. Standing ovation.
Fergie. Is. GENIUS!
4-5-1 is the new 4-3-3… two great games with 451. I think Fergie finally cracked it.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:09
@Scotjimland: Jim mi man – your Rooney love is commendable, he may be on speed, but it put him off his head and off his shooting boots. The one he did score was superb tho – but is wasn’t the important opening goal though was it – that belonged to Nani Nani Nani Nani Nani Nani Nani – that lad is blessed
. Made the Rooney goal too didn’t he???
January 31st, 2010 at 19:09
Did anyone see Nani leading out his bitch at the end of the game. Clichy of course. heh heh
January 31st, 2010 at 19:11
@Grognard: I was thinking… if we only had a fit Hargo in there to partner Fletcher and Carrick… How amazing that would be!
January 31st, 2010 at 19:13
@CraigMc: I agree regards the little clip to beat the Two Arse defenders to get away from them spectacular , made of dreams.He has finally arrived.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:15
@antsBoy: Lil man did get a hat trick tho Ant – all 3 goals wasn’t it
. In one way or another anyway – cos Le Arse were so worried about what magician Nani was going to do next!
January 31st, 2010 at 19:16
@[OPTI]Madschester United: 4-5-1 is working bexcause Rooney and Nani are playing out of their skins.
And I will not begrudge it as in this case I’d love to be proven wrong.
But if Rooney and Nani were currently in poor to average form then there is no doubt that 4-5-1 would be the worst formation if we had to choose between playing 4-5-1, 4-3-3 and 4-4-2.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:18
@Grognard:
Grog I have to say I have been watching Huntelaar at AC Milan (the few times he does play) and he does appear to have good movement in the box but no pace and very lightweight..he would get murdered in the Premier League and i think that’s why most EPL clubs are not going gangbusters for him..could be due to a lack of confidence but this young man doesn’t impress me at all!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 19:20
@CraigMc: yep,nani has just said that it is his one of the best games of his career and when asked about his trick for the first goal,did he practice it? he said it just happened in the match.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:22
@EduardoDaVinci4: Nani, Park and Rooney should ALWAYS start when playing against Arsenal.
They always seem to elevate their game against the gooners.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:23
my favorite goal was park’s, i mean come on how often do we see that!
January 31st, 2010 at 19:23
I want to have sex with Nani
January 31st, 2010 at 19:26
Its just a great night to be a Manchester United supporter,I can only imagine fans at other clubs who have sat and watched that mouthwatering display of Tactically immense football, just pure beauty.
This sets us great for the critical run in to pick up the trophy.
Trust in our fantastic manager do not be misled.Simples.
BELIEVE.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:27
@EduardoDaVinci4: I want to have sex with anyone.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:27
@Grognard: Quite easily Nani’s best performance after that FA Cup thrashing of Arsenal a couple of seasons ago.
Regarding 4-5-1, I have to agree with what Nico is saying. It’s working because Nani’s been excellent for the last few weeks, and more significantly, Rooney is playing a perfect lone striker role. I have been seeing a return to his carefree marauding role when he first came on to the scene as a teenager. He’s not been afraid to have a go from long range and is doing a much better job of it now.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:28
What a special performance by Nani!
And somebody please get Chichy a streacher! he’s all raw flesh and blood after the skinning Nani gave him!
January 31st, 2010 at 19:28
@EduardoDaVinci4: Me too… me too
and Rooney of course… he’s on 22 for the season!
January 31st, 2010 at 19:29
Rooney was magnificent. Could have scored a hattrick if he played the percentage shots. This season he has really raised his game another level. He is looking the complete forward. Granted he is still a bit wasteful, but he creates chances out of nothing for himself through his movement, his power and pace so he can afford to miss a few. Considering he has been forced to play on his own upfront for most of the season, his goal record is incredible. Even Ronaldo had the benefit of a supporting cast of Ronaldo and Tevez and an in form Nani, during his high scoring season of 2007-9. This season Rooney has for the most part been winning games almost singlehandedly for us.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:34
Clichy have requested the police to investigate Nani after the rape which happend on The Emirates Stadium, London.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:35
@Scotjimland: BELIEVE is what i say. fergie during the interview when asked what do u think of arsenal next game aganist chelsea. he said let arsenal BATTER them
January 31st, 2010 at 19:36
@colver: Hear me clapping from Scotland m8, fantastic post, thought through, top class.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:37
@vanderberg:
ano I laughed when he said that in a true Scots tongue…..Batterrrrrrr. Pure dead brrrrrilliant
January 31st, 2010 at 19:38
Don’t forget 4-5-1 has also been working better because our central midfiellders are pushing up a bit more. Carrick in particular was excellent today.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:47
@colver: In conclusion, 451 is working because Nani, Rooney, and our central midfield are playing well and pushing up… sounds like it is 451 tactic that is working to me.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:49
Disappointed journo would want us to believe that we won because of arsenal’s failures.
Well, its partly true, but we did play some marauding football and were good money for the victory.
You can read the frustration behind the words!
January 31st, 2010 at 19:50
@Scotjimland: when saf said that he was also smiling & grinning , he was very happy with our win aganist arsenal.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:53
I feel a 4-5-1 is meant for counter-attacking. So, it obviously needs pace. One of the reasons Valencia used to stand out even though all he ever did was hug the touchline and cross. Also, 4-5-1 has no point when most of our centre midfeild is invisible. Carrick has raised his game a notch as well. But I prefer out 4-4-2 anyday.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:55
People in media postions have power, what you must establish secretly is what is there agenda.However tonite,I am just as high as kite and truely as i always thought we would have that league in the bag, if had not been for our horrendous defensive injury horrors.
Plus more importantly I am being called from my Local pub, that there is 10 pints in the barrel for me. Over and out.Laters lads.
January 31st, 2010 at 19:57
@vanderberg: As we all are m8, have a drink, and toast our fantastic club.
January 31st, 2010 at 20:14
@Scotjimland: did u see evra(our captian tonight) after the game, he was pumped as high as u scot. wow he is definitely enjoying captaincy. goodnight mate. enjoy the night.
January 31st, 2010 at 20:19
CRAIG MI MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!! Let em have it mate. The boy Nani was again INTENSEEEEEEEEEEEE. I feel very vindicated and I’m giving it to ALL those Nani haters. Mate I’m bloody high right about now. Have a large mug of pint on me behalf will ya!
January 31st, 2010 at 20:20
Rooney and Nani were brilliant but it was one of the best performance of Carrick in United Shirt.Tremendous composure this guy showed today.Fabulous control on ball.If Carrick retains his latest form ,Rooney remains fit,Berba goes to Church and swear that he will score 10 goals from now,Fergie sends Valentine card to Nani and Vidic becomes Vidic ,then there is good hope this season also.
January 31st, 2010 at 20:22
Rooney again was superb, all the people who have a dig at the White Pele should be embarrassed with themselves and Nani was brilliant Ronaldo who?????
January 31st, 2010 at 20:24
Also Rafa in the second half showed a lot of maturity, hopefully he will end up the player I hope he can because he has the lot.
January 31st, 2010 at 20:25
@Stephen:
January 31st, 2010 at 20:26
rarely have i ever been so happy for a player than i am for nani today. what a player…what a talent!
did ne1 else notice how many headers the lil man won?! incredible…the boy is only gonna get better aswell.
well donelads
January 31st, 2010 at 20:27
@Grognard: Agreed Almunia is shite he has to be the worst keeper in the league.
January 31st, 2010 at 20:28
@CraigMc: I am so pleased for Nani, he is exactly what we need a skillful tricky winger, a true United player.
January 31st, 2010 at 20:35
@WhiteY:
– SAF has just been interviewed for MUTV and said Nani is giving him a selection headache now, with Valencia also chomping at the bit 
. Fergie said that when he talks to the team, especially the strikers etc they all want Lil Man to play because they feel he is so good – 
sorry Antonio! One guy on ROM blog said that we have nobody else on the team who can beat defenders like Lil Man Nani did for our opening goal! So where have all these sudden Nani acclaimants come from eh? I feel like I have soldiered on my own for him for so long. At least Rooney has MANY of the fans fighting for him when he was playing the most awful football – rugby style kicks etc. You all ganged up on me – BASTARDS
January 31st, 2010 at 20:36
@CraigMc: I was always with you
January 31st, 2010 at 20:38
@Stephen: Told you the lad had it Stephen, but like SAF just said on MUTV – Nani is a shy lad, and needed encouragement from everyone! Where is the Nani terrace song then you sudden Nani fans
January 31st, 2010 at 20:39
@owen: Thanks you Owen
January 31st, 2010 at 20:40
@CraigMc: I don’t think anyone doubted Nani’s ability but he needed consistancy and actually playing him in subsequent games bizarrely you get it
Rooney has always been superb and I love him 
January 31st, 2010 at 20:42
@united4life: That’s true, and then the Madrid snatchers move in
January 31st, 2010 at 20:42
@CraigMc: I have always liked him and have never said sell the lad he has just frustrated me, but after the last three games he has been great Clichy must feel violated.
January 31st, 2010 at 20:44
@Stephen: Mate – to get consistency most players need to be playing! Look at Ronnie when he came back to the team after being out for some time injured, it was a while to get his stride – right?
January 31st, 2010 at 20:46
@Stephen: Your a greater man than me then Stephen, because I was begging Fergie to sell him, because he was treating him badly, and I knew Nani would be great getting regular games, and come back to haunt us with another club
January 31st, 2010 at 20:47
@CraigMc: Exactly what I said pal, also wingers are game changers and sometimes because of their nature they need a run in the side to gain confidence also he does give Rafa some cover which Ronaldo never did.
January 31st, 2010 at 20:49
@CraigMc: I am United man thru and thru and think what is best for the club not the player, I am selfish.
Some posts on this site amaze me what people say “hope Tevez gets a hat trick” unfuckingbelievable.
January 31st, 2010 at 20:50
Fergie just said that Wes Brown was ill with some bug or other, and actually ‘threw up’ at half time. He should have come off because he was weakened by the bug, but he refused and soldiered on for the United cause. What a guy, a great local Manc lad. Love ya Wesley!
January 31st, 2010 at 20:52
@Stephen: I hoped he got a hat trick too, but in his own City net, so 3 own goals for United gifted by Tevez
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January 31st, 2010 at 20:54
@CraigMc: Craig mi man, seriously, I have perused the comments from the being of this thread up until the goals started coming in and its just fucking hilarious. The comments can be summarized as thus: Fergie is a senile tactically inept fuck, J S Park is the very definition of anti football, Scholes is an octagenerian, we never win with 4-5-1 bla bla fucking bla.
At half time, a mate of mine, also an avid reader of redrants and who bleeds red of course! called me on the phone and said ” Yourself and Craig are bloody geniuses, Nani just fucking gave me an orgasm!!
Seriously bro, its fucking nuts when people go on and on about Fergie being a man manager and not a tactician and all. And in the same vein, they proclaim Arsene Wenger and the likes as tactical gods. It smacks of bias. Maybe even an ‘european bias’ if I can put it that way. How in the hell is a bloody scotman going to be tactically shrewd huh? Its nuts mate. CQ this, CQ that
The commenter(Dominic) on the previous thread was absolutely spot on in that regard.
Cheers to OPTi Madchester, Nico, Scotjimland(I’m a fan by the way!), EDDy et al.
United for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 20:54
@Scotjimland: Don’t come on here AFTER you have supped 10 pints then Jim – or you will start a blog war all over again
January 31st, 2010 at 20:55
@CraigMc: Great lad Wes a true Longsight boy!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 20:58
@echo prime:
January 31st, 2010 at 20:58
The accolades for Nani stand out because of the frequency with which he has bewildered crowds but this was one of those rare days when, for United, everything seemed to click. Wayne Rooney, once again, looked at the point of maximum expression. Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick were spraying passes around as if there was a computer chip in their boots. Darren Fletcher, derided by Wenger as “anti-football” when these sides met at Old Trafford in August, proved his point.
January 31st, 2010 at 20:59
@Stephen: Iknow mate – what a stalwart eh
January 31st, 2010 at 21:00
@CraigMc: By the way, show Wazza some love bro! 20 league goals in January????????? Common mate!!!! Bloody WORLD fucking class!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 21:00
@owen: We deserved it though mate, the press have been banging on about Arsenal and City before both games and we have stepped up to the plate and we deserve credit for that.
January 31st, 2010 at 21:05
Memos to Wenger:
1. Teach that when your centre-half (Gallas) decides to charge up-field someone else should cover for him. That is the simplest ‘total-football-pass-and-move-joy-to-watch’ rule of all. It cost Arsenal two goals today because United were devastatingly good on the break.
2. Get a deep-lying midfielder who can hit killer balls, like Carrick. That way you don’t need 180 passes to release someone for a sight of goal.
January 31st, 2010 at 21:06
I thought Wes and Johnny were the unsung heroes on the night. Barely put a foot wrong, considering this was totally our second-choice Centerhalf pairing. But of course, I’m all for giving it to the MOST sung hero of the night too – Luis friggin Nani
January 31st, 2010 at 21:07
@WhiteY: Well to be honest mate, most of our performances this season bar the last few have been boring snooze fests. I was doing my nut along with the rest of them at some of the team formations, and Fergie’s meddling with sqaure pegs in round holes methodology. That’s fandom mate, and people are entitled to their after game RANTS
. Nani is pure example of this square peg/round hole, and look how he is playing in his best position. Nowt like a good moan after match mate, so don’t take it too serious eh? 
So your mate thinks we are geniouses –
. I wish tell him!
January 31st, 2010 at 21:10
@WhiteY:
– he already gets TOO much love mate 
January 31st, 2010 at 21:11
Also Nani speaks great English which is a real plus, Tevez cannot speak a word.
January 31st, 2010 at 21:14
@Stephen: It proves Nani does have a brain after all which is good; it means he can learn and improve.
Tevez is as thick as buffalo skin.
January 31st, 2010 at 21:15
@Red Ranter:
January 31st, 2010 at 21:18
@Red Ranter: You posted review today after a long time and it proved lucky
January 31st, 2010 at 21:19
@CraigMc: Ain’t no such thing as too much love mate!!
By the way how was my boy Carrick today????
January 31st, 2010 at 21:31
@CraigMc: Amazing how self-proclaimed members of the Nani appreciation society are suddenly rife now!
Where were they when the lil man was getting lambasted when he was not playing!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 21:31
@WhiteY: Carrick was brilliant, and it would be good for us if he can continue so. The whole team played their hearts out today. Well done to all.
January 31st, 2010 at 21:32
@NicoQB:
, thats life my friend!
January 31st, 2010 at 21:37
Another thing for you Nani ‘no nothings’ – I was right when I said he was a SHY lad and a good few gave me a hard time of it, saying the Lil man was arrogant. Well Fergie just said on MUTV that Nani is a SHY BOY, so I was indeed right on that score too
. Well I gotta go – the Missus and mi wee baby are calling 
. Night all.
January 31st, 2010 at 21:40
@WhiteY: Blah de blah, I stand by my point!
4-5-1 only works if we have the players to make it work. That includes wingers on top form, a Wayne Rooney on top of his game and a grafting, solid midfield.
If one or more of these elements are not present our football can be made to look pretty dire.
The advantage with 4-4-2 for example is that it does not necessarily imply all of those prerequisites for it to work.
Just imagine 4-5-1 with Rooney injured.
Would be nowhere near as succesful as it is right now.
Still I’m not one to deny that we’ve been looking very good recently.
January 31st, 2010 at 21:52
@NicoQB: Well said mate.
Is it me, but I find it self-defeating slagging off players that play for our club continuously. Yes its true that players can be shite at times and not every player at our club can be said to be class, and we can do better in certain positions. That said, as soon as a player wears that jersey and goes out to represent MANCHESTER UNITED, I can only wish that player the VERY best of performances, be it Gary Neville or Foster!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 21:53
@owen: @owen: I’m sure plagiarism isn’t allowed on Redrants!! Might have to report you to the Guardian
January 31st, 2010 at 21:59
@owen: But bar the past several games, Carrick’s passing has been shit. Arsenal do overpass at times, but note they’ve scored more goals than anyone and they generally get the ball up field quickly and retain possession which tires the opposition.
But bloody fantastic from us today! Didn’t get to watch the second half. So good not having to bang your head against the wall after watching your team.
Still, though, need powerful striker to alleviate pressure off Rooney. An in-form, properly-behaved Adriano though he struggles for pace would be good for his creative whims and eye for goal.
January 31st, 2010 at 22:04
Great game tonight btw!!!
Nani, take a bow son!! That’s three outstanding performances on the trot, maybe maturity was all he lacked. Rooney, 100 PL goals – what a player!! United should give him whatever he wants – as far as we can afford it, seeing as we’re skint. 
Major kudos to Fergie also, he definitely has Wenger’s number. Whoever said he was tactically inept must be wiping egg off face right now; making 4-5-1 work with the pool of players we have is outstanding.
January 31st, 2010 at 22:07
@NicoQB: There is a stark difference between 4-5-1 and 4-3-3 and that difference is in personnel. Earlier in the season when we played Tottenham with Andy Scholes Carrick Fletcher and Giggs was a perferct case of the conventional 4-5-1.
Today against Arsenal was 4-3-3 at its best. Two speedy wingers stretching play to the wings, a deep playing midfielder and two ‘flanking’. Notice that all three goals came from the three forwards??
How is it that the so called tactically astute Arsene Wenger has been consecutively out manoeuvred by a dumb as nails Fergie???
The excuse the other time at the emirates was ‘they had Cristiano’!! I truly wonder what the excuse is this time around.
I’m sure it was pure fluke Fergie leaving Valencia, Giggs and most especially Berbatov on the bench?? Not to even mention Andy that ‘always shits on Fabregas’??
Common you dumb as fuck Sir Alex Ferguson, why the heck did ypu play J S Park who always falls on his bloody ass every single time and has no semblance of a footballer?? Why oh why did’nt you play Gary Neville at right back?? You should have gone for experience in defence yo bloody moron!!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 22:16
SUNDAY Monday happy days Tuesday Wedensday Happy days rockin all week with you, THIS DAY IS OURS.
M8s lift yerself above some shite that on here served up.I AM so fucking esctatic.
Not that i care to be a smart lad, refer you all to post 2 on here today my prediction. Wotch my betting, more clued up than most.I got a 100 pounds in hipper.
Who is next ohh yes Hull and Chelscum.
January 31st, 2010 at 22:35
@Gabriel:
touché! lol
January 31st, 2010 at 22:46
@WhiteY: If you call this 4-3-3, then so be it!
I’m a big fan of 4-3-3 for that matter, and I rate it much more than the oft too defensive 4-5-1.
The thing with tonight’s line up was that Park (especially) and Nani were doing some defensive covering work, so that’s why I in my head its still 4-5-1 compared to a 3 pronged attack of Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez last year..
But really, the reason I still prefer 4-4-2 is because its the one that can accomodate mi own boy berba the most!
But I’d like to see berba given a decent run at 4-3-3.
As for Wenger being more tactically astute, that’s a myth that’s getting debunked regularly. If anything the italians ARE the master tacticians, but I’ll never warm to their defensive mindset. And let’s not forget maureen who for all his other flaws, is very good tactically, imho.
January 31st, 2010 at 22:53
@CraigMc: Of course not at point 148, but undestand this i am laughing huge, fantastic result for us m8. I saw this on the cards, our manager is a Scot, lol. Like most its thinking thro the season and when u come. lol
That’s just my humour, you know as i do, we must do this regardless of off field prob’s.
Enjoy yer nite sweetie. I am rah rah rah.
Come on you reds.
January 31st, 2010 at 23:02
At point 33, read the last, erm how many posts games? assole
Niters lads, enjoy our fantastic night.
January 31st, 2010 at 23:02
@NicoQB: True mate. Maybe we do have similar taste in players huh?!! I Loveeeeeeeeeee me boy Carrick and I always look for him to play well and get stuck in. I’m happy he’s coming to at this crucial time in the run. I joke with my mates that if an IQ test was conducted on United players, Carrick would come out top! He’s just that bloody smart. Only wish he was faster and ‘grittier’.
Honestly mate, I love Berba too, but like i’ll always say, he’s class but not right to start for United. I’ve been watching a replay of Rooney’s goal and the counter attack was just blistering and frakken outstanding. Rooney is FASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST and in the replay you can see JS Park speeding down the left too and Naniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Now imagine Berba in that set up, I’m almost certain the counter attack would have been reduced to a build up, and unfortunately, zero goal!
I truly believe our best bet is the 4-3-3. My only dilemma would be fitting Valencia in the starting eleven as I think he deserves to be in it.
If you had to sign one and only one player, who would that be???
January 31st, 2010 at 23:44
@CraigMc: no shit where is his song after this?
He along with roony over the past 2weeks have been an explosion and one that has drowned out all the chatter about our shortcomings. i doubt the news will be as dire about united over the next two.
exactly what we needed. who would have thought that “the new ronaldo” was infact the new ronaldo and should have been handed his position and shirt as soon as he left.
January 31st, 2010 at 23:56
@[OPTI]Madschester United: I do not believe in miracles.
January 31st, 2010 at 23:57
@WhiteY: Hehe, mate, 2 or 3 years ago, back when I first joined this site, I used to defend Carrick against his own little brigade of bashers.
I do feel that he’s still got more to offer than what he has been offering recently, and I’d like him to score 8 ad above per season and especially have double figures in assists, but it seems his defensive game has gone up one notch, since those days. Was a not too distant time when I proclaimed that he was the 2nd most important player in our squad, as in when he plays well, United as a whole plays well.
Those days are gone, sadly,
and his performance levels have taken a dip (especially last season), but I’d love him to get back to that level.
As for Berba, yes he’s not the fastest, and he may not be on the end of those blitzes, but he may still be part of counters, as I’m positive that he’s the one player you want to have the ball at his feet if you want someone to release a pass on the counter. He also has the best ball control, when it comes to picking the ball out of thin air, so to me, even if he doesn’t score a bag full of goals, he’s still worth having for sheer creative value.
As for me wanting us to sign a player; Krasic used to be my no.1 target (great right winger), but I didn’t expect Nani to be in this kind of form.
Gourcuff is another one, but he is nowhere near the form he displayed last season (ok, that may be a bit harsh, but you get my drift)
Just two weeks ago I was begging for a world-class creative offensive midfielder. With Nani having a phoenix like revival; I’d be happy to settle for an old school box-to-box midfielder. I’m still uncertain of whether Anderson is ever going to make it here (he may end up having a Flethcher like career who knows?) but I’d like a truly world-class central midfielder who can dominate both offensively and defensively. Its something of a rarity nowadays, but my attention picked up when we were being linked with Moussa Sissoko.
I also think we could use do with a truly world class, left footed left winger. I don’t know much about Di Maria, but I thought the Joe Cole rumours were interesting… I also used to be a big fan of Ribery, but that was before I discovered he was a bit of a prick (can understand him though – his rankings in the last two WPOTY awards have been ridiculously low for a player of his talent).
But I’m quite happy with the the way the team is currently, amazing how one player’s resurgence seems to have solved many of our past worries!
Oh, and Canales, but he’s signed to Madrid has he?
January 31st, 2010 at 23:57
@Scotjimland: Your not that clued up mate – its Pompey and Villa and chelscum up next
. We already played Hull home and away!
January 31st, 2010 at 23:59
@Don: You haven’t watched enough of him mate. Milan aren’t using him because they have a pecking order and that was the problem at Madrid too. He scored for fun for Ajax and for Holland. Give him time to play like Nani and he would show his true class. And believe me mate, he is true class and was built for the Prem. He’s a big boy that has never shown me a shyness of the box.
February 1st, 2010 at 0:05
@Red Ranter: Notice how they picked up the pace once they won the ball in their end. They were positively terrifying to watch as they broke out like a Blitzkrieg over Poland. Pace, skill on the ball and the right decision making. Also, they showed Fergie that having the ball for 60% of the possession is not a recipe to success. I think they had the ball for 43% or 44% of the game yet they manhandled the Gooners. It’s not how much time you have on the ball, it’s what you do with the ball when you have it. Truthfully, I think we would have scored five or six had Giggs started instead of Scholes. Even though he scored a splendid goal, I was not big on Park’s performance in attack, but he totally neutralized Sanja. 4-5-1 works when the team is moving at a lightning pace and has the balls for attack. Nani and Rooney were wonderful to watch today. Nobody can stop Rooney when he’s in this kind of form.
February 1st, 2010 at 0:10
@Stephen: Foster looks positively world class and Schmeichel-like in comparison to him. I cannot remember the last time that muppet ever made a game saving save. He is so useless that it defies comprehension and belief that such a smart man as Wenger would go with this garbage after so many years with better keepers like Seaman and Lehmann to count on. I mean, placing a CB or FB in goal would amount to the same type of cover, NONE. Wenger defies logic with his faith and belief in this incredibly useless keeper. And I have been saying this now for three years.
February 1st, 2010 at 0:15
@CraigMc: Stop acting bitter mate. It gets you nowhere on this blog. Nobody on here has it in them to pat you on the back and say they were wrong and you were right. I know that first hand. It’s either a pride thing or they just don’t want us to feel full of ourselves and gloat. Well mate. GLOAT. You earned it. I have felt like that so many times myself when I was proven right. I for one always believed in Nani but to be honest, I wasn’t sure if Nani believed in Nani and I never felt Fergie would ever believe in him. I’m glad that I was wrong about that. Also, it’s no mirage but the lad has really upped his game. He is doing all the things I was accusing him of not doing two months ago. Running and dribbling with pace, attacking and skinning defenders and looking to make the right pass and not try to do too much. His new found confidence and the confidence the players and especially Fergie are showing in him have elevated him from his otherwise timid and shy displays. Now he seems assured of ascending to the top and making himself a truly great player for us and a menace for opponents. I’m very happy for him as this may mean there is a great chance he is going nowhere this summer. I’m sure that makes your day.
February 1st, 2010 at 0:18
@owen: How about try playing with forwards as well as a goalkeeper too. He had neither today.
February 1st, 2010 at 0:22
That new signing we got #17 Nani, well………..he’s pretty fucking good ain’t he?
February 1st, 2010 at 0:27
@CraigMc: Mate, I’m not here in an attempt to get a medal or an applause, but I was always one of the lads who had faith in Nani. I’ve defended Valencia, because I think he is a good player, but I’ve always told you or agreed that Nani is better. He just needs some game in a row, so he can get some consistency. He had done that now and… well.. FUCKING LOOK AT HIM!!!
Nani told all the Arsenal defenders to “Beat it” today. He was “Moonwalking” all over the pitch there. A real “Thrill” to watch him play today. Truly, a “Smooth Criminal”.
February 1st, 2010 at 0:29
@Grognard: Is that Michael Jackson?
February 1st, 2010 at 0:36
I don’t know what was best about today!!!
Was it watching the United reserves beat Stabæk FK at Telenor Arena live in VIP seats, with Diouf scoring a brace?
Was it watching Nani terrorise the whole Arsenal defence, scoring one of the best goals I’ve seen in my life(Yes, I credit it to him because I believe it would have gone in)?
Was it watching Rooney score YET ANOTHER GOAL for Manchester United, making it 20 in the Premier League this season, 100 Premier League goals in total and scoring YET another goal against Arsenal?
Was it watching United just purely outclass Arsenal at their ground, winning 3-1 in the process?
Was it watching the game with three other Arsenal fans in the same room as me, at my house and a big TV?
Was it watching the reaction and behaviour of those fans when their team played shit and conceded?
or
WAS IT JUST A BRILLIANT DAY TO BE A UNITED FAN?!
February 1st, 2010 at 0:41
@NicoQB: the man you want is silva
lw/acm and he is class with the right side looking full he could be a bargain buy filling in two places where we need class. gigs replacement imo
February 1st, 2010 at 0:51
Welly scores for preston VIDEO
February 1st, 2010 at 1:08
“My future is at United” -NANI
“But Sir Alex was very clear with me – he spoke at length about what he expected and was always very positive.
“He changed my mentality and improved my morale over the past few months and now I think I am getting as much satisfaction from my performances as I ever had.”
Link
February 1st, 2010 at 1:28
Craig MC
February 1st, 2010 at 1:45
@gator: I kept track of Silva, but his stats this season have been very average for a player of his renown. He played well in the euros and against us in a friendly, but I just wonder.
Anyway, word is he can “do a job” on the left, but t can be uncomfortable for him as he’s more natural as AM. As I said, if Nani keeps performing for the rest of the season like this I don’t feel there is a pressing need to buy another attacking midfielder.
Ok, that’s all for me tonight. Night all!
February 1st, 2010 at 2:27
It’s funny how people are so quick to hop on the nani bandwagon after all the abuse he gets. He also illustrates what happens when fergie plays players in their natural position and gives them a run of games.
I am curious too see if Valencia can play centrally, because nani just isn’t at his best playing on the left.
February 1st, 2010 at 2:29
Rooney really is coming of age right before our eyes. He really is playing like one of the best players in the world right now. He is simply unplayable right now in his current form. Long may it continue!
February 1st, 2010 at 2:34
Best team performance so far, and with the 2 previous wins in account, this is indeed a good sign!
The pace and movement in the 1st half was exceptional and the gooners just could keep up – we didn’t kick them around the pitch this time, we just out-played them everywhere. The crisp passing, and especially the early one, had them stretching the whole time.
The 5 man midfield seems to be working – and for a couple of reasons.
If we can combine Scholes, Carrick and Fletcher on the same starting 11, the progress up the pitch seems almost gift wrapped -the fight, the guile and the long pass have a wonderful symbiosis that just makes our engine purr with delight.
The other most important issue is we now seem to have a winger that can run at his defender and with much skill, can get behind a back four and MAKE A TELLING PASS into those threatening the goal. In short, Nani has been a revelation the last couple of games and it helps us so much!!
Rooney is on a different planet right now – playing at such a high level, you wonder just how long this streak will last. His work rate, his anticipation and most importantly, his finishing was as good as I’ve witnessed. His 100th PL goal was masterful from start to finish and as clinical and as ruthless as United need with a single striker. (Important as it was in it’s accuracy, Nani’s decision to pass, was a telling sign that he’s now getting it!!)
Kudos to Evans and Brown to almost hold off Arsenals efforts – but I do have to wonder about Wenger’s idea of attacking us with the diminutive Arsharvin, when he knew we could be vulnerable in central defense. He didn’t bring on Bendtner until the points were in our bag – when his effect was negligible.
They kept our defense honest and took very few chances when under pressure. Hopefully, with time, their distribution forward can improve and they can become a bona fida backup solution for our ongoing defensive absentees.
Looking forward, we have a seemingly easy game against Portsmouth, while Chelsea and Arsenal will battle it out for the Capital spoils.
Wenger was pissed at his team today, so look for them to show Chelsea a revived effort (hopefully) knowing that a loss in that game will probably put pay to their title efforts.
February 1st, 2010 at 9:00
Before I start reading from the top the long list of comments, I just want to state…Well done Fergie. Yesterday’s game was very entertaining. It once again proved to me that we CAN play entertaining AND win. I enjoyed the game and I hope there will be a few more to come. Should it happen, win or lose, I will stop criticising for the rest of the season.
February 1st, 2010 at 9:12
@CraigMc: I Was referring to the next game to watch and hope.Hull v Chelscum, you gotta keep an eye on your enemies.
February 1st, 2010 at 9:41
So Rooney has now surpassed Ronaldo’s goals and is now 2 shy of Andy Cole’s, take a bow Son.
February 1st, 2010 at 9:43
OK. Match report’s up. Head over to the new page for it. And of course, continue discussion there.
February 1st, 2010 at 10:30
@Scotjimland: Oh right – gotcha
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February 1st, 2010 at 10:31
@Karl: But will you keep praying that Tevez scores hat tricks against our team Karl?
February 1st, 2010 at 10:33
@Grognard: Nani in my opinion has always been that good. The difference is he is now getting a more decent run in the team in his favoured position as you pointed out. The only thing that is surprising me is the way everyone else is now jumping on the Nani wagon,when just a couple of weeks ago they were bashng him left right and centre. But to be honest I’m not really surprised.
February 1st, 2010 at 10:42
Move on to the new post. You can respond from there too… just loads the page faster that way. Cheers.
February 1st, 2010 at 10:45
@Grognard: No it doesn’t Groggy, Lil man should still go because he has long suffered with derision of unappreciative fans and SAF’s leper-land. Sorry! I think he has proved he has the artillary, but United fans NEVER gave the lad any love or encouragemment and neither did SAF until the last couple of months. If SAF and the fans had have done, we would have seen the best of the lad. I still think he will do a Tev!
February 1st, 2010 at 10:48
@EduardoDaVinci4:
– well done Eddie!
February 1st, 2010 at 18:50
@Jay wire: The thing with Nani has always been about maturity. Too much pressure was placed on this shy and introverted lad to mature at the same rate as players like Rooney and Ronaldo. It doesn’t work like that. Some players mature at a normal rate and others are late bloomers. At 23, I’d say Nani has been maturing at a normal rate but has had incredible undue pressure placed upon him by the fans, the club and even Ferguson.
I also think that the reason he is playing right now is that he has realized himself that it is do or die time. It’s not just about making it with the club, if he was to leave, who worthwhile would buy him? So he has awoken from his slumber, he has moved over to his favored right side and he has upped his aggressiveness and tempo to become a more complete winger. If he continues to apply himself like this, his confidence will soar and he will become in a short period of time one of the most feared wingers in the world because frankly, he has always had the talent. Now along with that talent seems to come more desire, more maturity and the departure of his 10 cent way of thinking. I’m pulling for the lad, as I have never wanted him to leave if he could truly up his game to a level I knew he was capable of.
February 1st, 2010 at 18:55
@CraigMc: Sorry mate, for a guy in Canada, I think I am more RED than you because for me the team always comes first, then the player. I want United to do well and to accomplish that, it’s important for us to keep Nani, regardless of past history. I am happy for Nani but I am elated for United because it feels like they spent 30 million on a David Silva with his resurgence. Why would I or any other Red Devil fan want to give that up. I’d check you allegiance mate. Seriously, loving Nani and his personal interests more than United’s, not kosher one bit mate. Nani belongs with the Red Devils and all that has happen is in the past. We can now move forward and look forward to the lad making his name and elevating United’s game with his on field presence. He may do a Tev but the fact is, he likes it here more than Tev and all he ever really wanted was a chance. He finally has gotten that chance and a shy boy like himself is not one for new strange adventures. He’s staying put.