Jul 04
Carlos Tevez continues to spout venom
It seems some people find it hard to move on. We all acknowledge that sometimes, in a relationship, both parties might have been at fault and, like adults, we say what we have to say, and move on.
The relationship between clubs and players, players and managers and players and fans is not that different in essence. [Of course, if a player spites his fans, then the gloves are usually off, and we see even mild-mannered, cultured adults turn juvenile -- but I digress.]
Carlos Tevez, falls in the second category. And, by recent evidence, has shown little signs of growing up.
According to today’s report in the MirrorTevez accuses Fergie of lying to him about his squad status after signing Berbatov.
“Ferguson still believes I will be at United next season. He thinks I will return. But I know what I want and I know that Ferguson did not respect me as a player. Before Berbatov arrived in Manchester, Ferguson told me, ‘You will still be the starting striker, so be cool’. But he lied to me! That is why I know I will not return to United.
For one, football has become a squad game. Much of United’s success over the course of the past three years has been built around having good squad depth and players understanding that rotation is a part of life at United. Rotating players kept us in the hunt for a good part of the season. And for a manager, the toughest job is to ensure a reasonable mix of players for the right game. Tevez’s appearances over the course of the season is proof that he has got more playing time than some others in the side. He was mis-treated by the club management, of that there is little doubt. The United management weren’t forthright enough to work out his contract details, and we all know that. But today he still feels he has to whine some more to the press:
“What I want to do next season is score against United. I promise I will not celebrate in front of the United fans but I will shout in Ferguson’s face. You can be sure of that – and it will be one of the most beautiful things I have done in football.”
Well, Charlie. We wish you good luck on that. And you don’t have to bother trying to show respect to us fans. We aren’t really on your side anymore. And, just so you don’t wear a bewildered look when you visit OT, expect some booing from the stands.
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Update: Also, in case you haven’t heard, Wayne Rooney had a minor accident when he bumped his head. Doctors thought he may have had a concussion. But it was reported to be nothing serious. Today Rooney updated his twitter status, and like we jobless folks track stuff like this, here’s what he says on his head and Owen:
Thanks for all the messages my heads fine it wont stop me starting preseason il be there on Monday looking forward to meeting up with Michael Gosh that was a shock but hes a proven goal scorer but maybe just not been at the right club thats no offence to Newcastle. The Gaffer knows what hes doing always has I think this could be a Great season again for Utd Cant wait , Hols nearly finished! Bye 4 now.
So with those golden words from the Roon, we can sleep today in peace.
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Tags: Manchester United News · Opinions/Columns
July 4th, 2009 at 8:53
Please no more tevez posts, red ranter. I am sick of him.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:57
I’m also sick of Tevez but it appeared only in the Mirror and they are not exactly famous of their credibility. I give him the benefit of the doubt on this front, I don’t believe he said these things. His earlier whines were genuine though.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:59
@Faizan: Fair enough. I couldn’t resist. I’m only human after all.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:04
Tevez can fuck off, to be blunt.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:05
You know he should celebrate in front of us…so we can throw some crap his way. It’s is funny to think that he still thinks the fans are behind him. Fergie > Charles. Naturally though, he’ll never score against us anyway if Rio and Vida have anything to say about it.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:05
Common Carlos this is bit too much.why u complaining you got the whole second half in that final what have you done. I didnt see any run from you to the goal box.You know what hapend in 1999 Teddy and Ole in last 10 mnts that called the legends.So to score a goal u dont need full 90 mnts you just need a flash of brilliance to score. The whole season you played more minutes than Rooney and berbatov. so Dont complaint Fergie ddint look after you. The man fought a lot to brought you in to the team and you also played very well in the first season, but second season you scored the important goals but fewer goal ratio.So dont complain about Fergie and make this stuppid things he is liar and goal on his face thats not suits you Carlos.No one is bigger than the club remember that in your mind. You only going to Bloody City because of Money nothing else because you and Ur bloody owner that Jorabchian are greedy for money. United offer you the five year deal worth 25.5 million ask rate. But you rejected, and Jurabchian claime you people didnt gave enough time to think. So stop those bulshits and crocodile tears.You are not welcome any more carlos.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:09
I love you RR.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:13
Tevez thinks he is the next marradona or something like that, he is just selfish player who has no respect for a legend his dads age.
July 4th, 2009 at 9:16
when ever he got the chance, he did nothing, a money bug and nothing else, infact u dont deserve to play for manutd
July 4th, 2009 at 9:33
He also said today that he’d celebrate by shouting in fergusons face is he scored against us.
I hope when we play city next season, not only do we beat them with an owen brace and a berba goal, we kick the shit out of him!
July 4th, 2009 at 9:45
@Zae: The Mirror are more credible than the other shit tabloids mate. Tevez ia a bitter little shit, who DIDN’T want to leave, he was stringing United along to see just how much more his team could screw out of us, but he came unstuck. Man Utd wouldn’t play the game, and cut him off, which really shocked him. He thought he had time to play around, but he didn’t. Also, what the fuck is he going on about, that SAF still thinks he is coming back? Where does that kind of delusional thinking come from? United cut off all negotiations after giving him a deadline, so where has the SAF still thinks he is coming back come from????
July 4th, 2009 at 9:54
Is this for real? Previous rant from him and i start to hate him. He thought he had the fans support after 2 years at the club. Fergie spend 23 years at the club and you think fans who the fans will support? Just because you did a lot of running and never give up spirit for 2 years, people can’t forget you? The club succeed for so long not because of you dude. It’s ferguson. Get it to your head. I mean whatever or how bad the manager is, you can’t complain to the media, once you did then off you go. Fergie agree the 25.5m asking price is because he knew you will reject. Anyway for the Rooney twitter, is it his one? It seems to me that it’s not a real one.
July 4th, 2009 at 10:10
@kel: It is his real twitter account. Here’s my source.
July 4th, 2009 at 10:21
I know one should not wish an injury on anyone, but Tevez deserves somebody to do an Haaland on him.
July 4th, 2009 at 10:28
July 4th, 2009 at 10:49
oh dear listen to u lot,u make me sick, u was begging for tevez to stay after he scored many match winners.but now u know theres not chance of him being with utd anymore so ul slag him off.we have bigger issues to worry about at the moment.ronaldo is swapped for valencia.and owen for tevez,umm why is berbatov still in a red shirt.he is actually the worst striker in the prem,say what the fuk u want but this is the end of the winning ways for us…jus think we have a liverpool reject and liverpool must be pissing there selfs laughing and the thought of it makes me sick
liverpool can sit there now and say they have a more formiddable squad than us and there not wrong.
July 4th, 2009 at 10:54
Tevez really has to shut the fuck up. I mean how does he expect any true United fan or anyone with enough sense to back him up now? I for one will booo.
So what if he had to fight for his place, wasn’t it Ferguson that gave him the opportunity to play at the top level in the first place?
He might not want to disrespect the United fans but he does when he comes out with this crap. Alex is Manchester United and it’s really not his fault that tevez hasnt matured in his football or the way he conducts himself. It’s actually got beyond embarrasing for him and seeing as he hasn’t yet signed for Man City, I think his behaviour is limiting his options.
Does Mark Hughes even want this extra bullshit? really? I highly doubt it and you may just see Tevez having to go abroad to find a team now
July 4th, 2009 at 10:55
face facts fergy has made many mystakes lately.
berbatov
tevez
ronadlo
and owen LOL im gonna cry i think….
im actually scared to compete with liverpool and chelsea at this moment
July 4th, 2009 at 11:06
I hope Vida kicks his bullocks when Man Shitty visits O.T, bitter little twat. I also hope that those muppets who booed Fergie and drowned his victory speech with “sign him up” chants feels like proper dicks now.
July 4th, 2009 at 11:11
what is up with man utd and argentina players. they seem like players with a good attitude towards united and every time they move they seem like total jackasses not only towards ferguson but united as a club well veron is the latter
July 4th, 2009 at 11:15
rldnccc what on earth are you on about he as made many mistakes but tevez has this hostel attitude and no team player and I am glad he has gone. you go on cry like a baby united have won 3 league titles in a row, a european cup world club cup 2 league cups if united fail to win anything it is not a disaster, this season 09/10 season is a good chance actually a great chance to experiment has long as liverpool do not win the league.
July 4th, 2009 at 11:23
@steve: For once i am agreeing with you bro…
July 4th, 2009 at 11:34
Tevez is the most bitter man alive he will fit in well at the Wastelands, he is very, very overrated and we are better off with Owen
July 4th, 2009 at 11:38
Yep. Just stop the dippers winning the league with an ex dipper doing the damage. ‘19 leagues, we did it with 2 scousers’
July 4th, 2009 at 11:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZHpPFfb350
July 4th, 2009 at 11:47
Football is funny, if someone said to me a year ago that I would like Michael Owen more than Carlos Tevez I would have called for that person to be sectioned, football bloody hell.
July 4th, 2009 at 11:48
I have come to the conclusion that, redcafe, has died.
RIP.
July 4th, 2009 at 11:50
@Stephen: Exacly, however you look at it, Owen is an improvement to the scum.
July 4th, 2009 at 11:53
@Dan: Amen to that mate, especially after he said that would celebrate if and that is a big if he scores in Fergie face, ugly twat, I wonder what these Tevez lovers think of that?
July 4th, 2009 at 11:56
@Stephen: Tevez struggles to score against relegation threatened clubs, how in the hell will he be able to score against full strength united side?
July 4th, 2009 at 11:57
TEVEZ CHANT FOR NEXT SEASON:
Carlos, Talks A Load Of Dross
5 League Goals, What A Fuckin Loss
Dont Bench Him, He’ll Spit His Dummie Out
Now Plays For The Shitty With No Title Shout
July 4th, 2009 at 11:58
@Dan:
But he can score in the Carling Cup mate don’t forget that especially against Blackburn reserves.
July 4th, 2009 at 12:02
it is funny the scousers laugh at uniteds dept and how they will win the league their signings are not pulling up trumpts. and their owners are not actually swimming in cash and thier dept is just as bad.
rldnccc just respond because how is owen a replacement he cost nothing even though I will still say his style of play where he is useless on the ball will make united suffer. owen is like playing with 10 men because his overall game is nothing short of abysmel. his only 2 talents has gone which was scoring goals and what made that talent work was his pace. owen’s other problem is he is not a total footballer so his type of playing style can decline faster than others. we saw how chelsea declined when they went for second rate players, but my worry is owen berbatov upfront if rooney is injured worrys me greatly. another problem is non of our attacking players has a physical threat. valencia nani giggs park tosic rooney berbatov owen welbeck macheda where is the height and strength because I see non of it.
July 4th, 2009 at 12:06
@steve: It never did Ruud any harm, we lack a box player and Owen is one and for free he is worth a punt and hearing the mickys this moring bleating on the radio makes signing him worth while.
July 4th, 2009 at 12:08
@Stephen: Oh yeeeaaa! what was fergie thinking! carlos is key to our carling cup ambitions!
Knowing tevez, he probably thinks CC>>>FA cup…
July 4th, 2009 at 12:10
@Dan:
Worth every penny of £35m!! 
July 4th, 2009 at 12:27
Stephen lets get one thing straight I am not one of these fans who thinks we should have got ribery benzama aguero etc etc they dnt want to come here and its about time some the most expensive names we have bought like berbatov nani anderson start playing like world class players, what has been one of uniteds biggest srengths is finding players non of us know well and they turn out to be world class stars vidic and evra to prime examples. we have never been a club to atract the world established stars look at the 1999 squad where in that group of players was there a world name that set the pulses racing we found good players made them better or half of them came through the academy. even ronaldo he only came here has a player with potiental he was a talent almost a rookie not a world class player.
July 4th, 2009 at 12:47
@steve: Whats a dept?
July 4th, 2009 at 12:58
Dan I spelled debt wrong wow who gives a damn.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:12
I’d be careful. Journalists often misquote players. I find it hard to believe Carlos would say those things. For a start his English is terrible and Fergie would have never said “Be Cool”.
Considering the quotes are taken from the Daily Mirror Id take them with a pinch of salt.
I find this venom aimed at Carlos disrespectful. If he really is saying these things why are we stooping to his level? Can’t we be the more mature party in the relationship?
Tevez gave us two years at the club. While you can argue that he was not good enough there is no faulting his commitment to the club and he gave us everything when he was on the pitch.
I really think it is most distasteful to make fun of Tevez. Say what you like about him he scored some very important goals for the club and while his last season did not work out, in his first season at the club he seamlessly fitted into the club and helped us win the Premier League and the Champions League at a time when he was the main striker.
Fact is Tevez last season was better than Berbatov this season.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:19
@steve: Veron was a very gracious and humble person Steve, and I wont hear a word said against him. He was very disappointed not to have succeeded in his time at United, and he loved our club. He was the first of his kind to come to us, at a time when we had difficulty in getting the star type players, and it was a shame that we were playing a style of football he was entirely unused to. Veron had CLASS soething the Heinze’s and Tevez’s of this world are totally devoid of
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July 4th, 2009 at 13:23
@colver: Colver, I am getting a bit sick of the we must not disrespect Tevez brigade. The likelihood is did say those things, as he has been moaning and whining to the press ever since he supposedly left the club. Truth is he chose to leave, but HE IS STILL HERE IN HIW OWN FUCKING HEAD. He thought he was God, and UNited would be crying after him, he thought wrong. Respect him my arse!
July 4th, 2009 at 13:25
Craig I said veron was the latter meaning he went out with gracious dignaty. he was willing to come to the club and give it a go thinking united were the biggest. not looking to move on he was looking at long term plans at the club, I think if it was not for keanes total control freak of the dressing room not giving up his spot when he had this mentaliy that everyone was not good enough and only he was and I thought he was always looking at the past, and wanted 99 type performences. the real madrid game in 2003 especially at old trafford should have been a hint keanes time had come.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:26
@Dan: Ive come to that conclusion too. Besides, it would have died much sooner if Benzema signed.
As for Tevez, whatever respect I had for you is gone. If you think you can shout in the face of our manager without us having a say, you are miserably mistaken. You will be eating your words soon classless prick.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:27
@rldnccc: Scared to compete with L’pool and Chelski?
. Thank God the rest of us are not such cowering little wrecks. Bring them ON!
July 4th, 2009 at 13:28
but believe me I ment veron was the only argie that never left the club has a judas and a kackass tevez and heinze have now left like that
July 4th, 2009 at 13:30
@sig: Oh Mark Hughes wants Tevez mate, because he thinks by getting him he is sending a message of intent to OT. Hughes has no excuse this season for not winning anything, the amount of dosh he has spent, and if he doesn’t bring home the bacon, that little piggie will not get to the next transfer market, not with Man Pity anyway
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July 4th, 2009 at 13:31
@colver: Maybe Tevez should stop spitting out that dummy he keeps in his shorts, then we won’t be talking about him.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:32
@Dan: Thank heavens, I actually thought it was an issue with my router and I was the only one not able to log on to it, didn’t know it was really down. Wonder when it’ll come back up
July 4th, 2009 at 13:32
@steve: Oh right, I got you now. Steve lad, you will have to take more care about your posts, because they are a bit hard to understand sometimes.
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July 4th, 2009 at 13:32
@Craig Mc: Amen! Cant wait to exact revenge on the scouse!
July 4th, 2009 at 13:33
Is Fergie on a young defenders kick? Last season Rafael, Fabio and Delaet. This season Dodo, Mcginty and Massacci. Our transfer activity is looking a bit Arsenal at the back lately.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:35
@rldnccc: What the hell? He was just disrespectful to Fergie, our current manager, of course we have the right to slag him off. You sound like that rabid Tevez fanboy on redcafe. Grow the hell up and if the thoughts of Owen makes you cry, go support Real Madrid or City, they have lost of players that’ll keep you happy.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:36
@rldnccc: If your a United fan, I’m from planet Mars
. You sound like anything but a United fan in your comments! By the way, your comments are of the same attitude as Tevez, so I am not surprised you are a fan of his!
July 4th, 2009 at 13:38
@Traverse: Is the Dodo transfer confirmed? Last I heard of it was some Brazilian b*tching about how United were raping Brazils youth.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:39
@Xyth: Mmmmm, we don’t want to wish injury on anybody Bro, especially the career threatening injury Haaland suffered. We just overcome Tevez and the team he arrives at OT to play with, by killer football alone mate
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July 4th, 2009 at 13:47
These are the days i wish Roy Keane, the player captain, not the person, was here. Id love to see tevez try and pull this with him here, this is why i want either De rossi or Cana.
Veloso is also an outside chance, but hes a bit hot then cold tbh, he can be a beast, then stroll by in a game i reckon.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:48
@Rd: They need to dot I’s and cross T’s but as far as I am aware it is as good as.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:51
Craig my keyboard needs sorting. rldnccc did you boo fergie when tevez was taking off. does anyone else agree that it is hard to watch the 07/08 championship winning season. two players in ronaldo and tevez who thought there was bigger fish to fry than stay at a championship winning team. they have tainted the clubs success but atleast ronaldo left with no bitter fealings towards fergie or united, even thouugh ronaldos antics have been a lot to be desired.
also what really pisses me off is how the media have painted a picture of ronaldo has this two faced nasty winker who wrecked englands worldd p han, whois a spoiled playboy pampered asshole of a footballer who is seen as a guy who goes from girl to girl cant settle down with a relationship and who is so selfish, yet tevez can leave with the media praising him as almost a guy who was seen has great as ronaldo and rooney for his attitude who is unselfish a great guy who is a married man. despite the fact that he has put a dark scare on a famly club in west ham, wasted our time in summer 2007 getting him when there were far better strikers out there. and now he has treated fergie and man utd at times is nothing sort of disgraceful. he is a typical person who uses the PR machine to get fans the media and people on his side, when he is even more selfish than a ronaldo even though ronnie left and appriciate what the boss and united done for ronaldo. the media need a long look at themselves on really good guys like ronaldo yea he is in the limelight acted like an idiot but he was never bitter, and the real assholes in tevez and heinze.
July 4th, 2009 at 13:56
The formation so far:
Foster
Rafael Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Valencia Anderson Carrick Nani
——–rooney
————-Berbatov
Bench-Vds Brown Evans Fletcher Tosic Owen Welbeck
I would sign Lahm for £20-30mil, and De rossi for £30-40mil.
July 4th, 2009 at 14:36
Sorry to come back to this point but two threads back I mentioned how if we really wanted Benzema, we would have been more expeditive and decisive in our transfer dealings. I mentioned how Aaron Ramsey was thought to be a done deal for us. But Wenger came in in his private jet, wooed his parents, treated them to dinner, and explained how he would play more at arsenal than at United.
But then I read this on f365:
“…Benzema, who is now relishing the prospect of making his debut for the Spanish giants, says the visit of Florentino Perez to his house played a major role in his decision to join.
“Real are a kid’s dream. Florentino Perez came to my house at Bron. That was important,” he continued. “He can speak French and I understood he absolutely wanted me. I could only left for Real. It was my dream, that’s all.”
Now we know all about Real being his dream move but after the deal was done its very easy to say that he could only leave for real. And remember how Ferguson hijacked Roy Keane and Dimi Berbatov singings by personally meeting them? Once again another case of laziness in transfer dealings.
Oh, and by the way I still think Benzema is a prick.
July 4th, 2009 at 14:45
@NicoQB: Mate he never wanted to sign for us it wouldn’t have mattered if Prince William had gone to meet him with Denis Law and Bobby Charlton,
July 4th, 2009 at 14:49
OYE! Tevez is not good enough to play even in Man Shitty, he’s not fit to lace Robinho’s boos for that matter
… If city gets Eto then little Charlie is screwed 
July 4th, 2009 at 14:50
I am with Dan, we need a top draw midfield player I hope this isn’t the end of our business this summer.
July 4th, 2009 at 15:07
@Dan: I do not think we need lahm as evra is quite good at LB but evra can be weak aganist pace such as aaron lennon (for example)and is not injury prone. O’shea can take his position if he is injured.For me brown will be the man at RB since rafael has to mature and has to improve his defensive skills.I also think that SAF will go for attacking midfield rather than a box to box or defensive one.
July 4th, 2009 at 15:11
manchester united rumoured away kit…
http://www.4thegame.in/features/feature/238209/200910_new_kits.html
July 4th, 2009 at 15:16
Dan Im pretty sure Fergie considers Fletcher ahead of Anderson in the pecking order. I also think that Brown will win back the right back slot with ease from Rafael. Definitely we need a good central midfielder to play alongside Carrick. Defence isn’t really a priority-I think Fabio will give Evra a bit of competition and buck his ideas up. If anything we need a goalkeeper lined up to replace EVDS because Foster is too injury prone.
July 4th, 2009 at 15:23
@steve: No offense mate, but you would get your views across to us readers much more easily if you spared a thought for punctuation, capitalising and paragraphing.
A small effort, but resulting in much greater readability.
July 4th, 2009 at 15:25
@Stephen: He distincly said that “He has nothing against Man Utd” and I think he also did photo shoots for the next Fifa or PES game in a United kit, so we’ll never know, bro!
July 4th, 2009 at 15:26
@colver: It was MY team, not fergies…
July 4th, 2009 at 15:29
Can united field an entirely english side?
Foster
Neville Ferdinand Brown Eckersley
Hargreaves James Carrick Welbeck
Owen Rooney
Yes, We Can!
Wonder how this side would fare in a major competition…
July 4th, 2009 at 15:30
Im gonna be honest, i really, reallly like/love the thought of Owen at united, simply because i thought it would never happen, and it has!
Every time they mention his name or show a pic of him on SSN, my heart goes all warm inside for some reason.
I know he’ll do well for us, i know it.
I must look like a real prat dont i
July 4th, 2009 at 15:32
@vanderberg: How odd!
July 4th, 2009 at 15:34
@Dan: You do!
But don’t worry, while I was as miffed as any United fan when he first signed, I warmed to the idea, especially knowing tha we’ve nothing to lose and everything to gain.
July 4th, 2009 at 15:48
Bloody hell, I just watched Michael Owen giving his interview to Sky Sports News, and he said that he is accused of being injury prone, but the last two years for Newcastle he played 33 games last season and 32 games the season before, and there are only 38 PL games in a season. Well that has surprised me to be honest! The way the Geordies are whining and cursing, I thought he had played like not more than 10 games a season
. Live and learn Craig man, live and learn 
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I truly hope he does keep fit and hit form to us, because he said that the last couple of months have made him feel like an axe murderer, the way people have been spitting venom at him. He believes he can hit form for United, and the other international United players will help and inspire him. He is desperate to be all he can for Fergie and the club, and of course he aspires to get back for England and the world cup. He was so humble, that he makes me hope that it all comes good for him – I must be getting soft eh?
July 4th, 2009 at 15:51
@NicoQB: If united go for away games in that jersey oh my gosh ,i think all will call then “manchester shined” not united as they do tend to shine in sun and no body can see each other in the match ,and the “V” shape is also not that good with blue.what is happening this year manu have come a step down in all departments ,jerseys do not look that good they are ok.transfers have not been top notch till now, may be we have to wait and see…
July 4th, 2009 at 15:51
Oh and he also doesn’t have one of those sickening (talking down your nose) scouse accents. That is a real bonus I must say
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July 4th, 2009 at 15:55
@vanderberg: The strips are appalling mate. I would be happier if the players came out barechested, with their squad number painted on their backs, wouldn’t that be more acceptable, and a turn up for the history books?
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July 4th, 2009 at 16:04
@Craig Mc: Fact is, this the happiest ive seen him in a long, long time, and i find it amazing how he wants to play for us and do well for us so bad even though he started his career at liverpool!
He wants to be here, and i think thats why im liking the idea of him being here so much. Real passion hes showing.
July 4th, 2009 at 16:13
@Craig Mc: yeah
talking about structure and abs and muscular men in our squad who do u think has got the best physique and macho look 
July 4th, 2009 at 16:20
@vanderberg: Ronaldo before he left.
I reckon Nani or anderson now.
How tonk is Valencia?
July 4th, 2009 at 16:24
@vanderberg: Errrr I’m into the FEMALE body form Bro, so I have no idea about abs and body physique of United players
. If you want to just talk macho in attitude and passion, like Keano had in abundance, then Vida, Rooney, Wes Brown. Sheasy would be top of the list I would say.
July 4th, 2009 at 16:27
@Dan: Yeah Dan, Owen is saying that he has the chance to bash the bashers of him out on the pitch, and he intends to give everything to do just that!
July 4th, 2009 at 16:29
@Dan: I have to say I like hargreaves physique,sexy hair style ,me too ronnie before he left.The strongest man in our squad has to be vidic > brown > valencia > rooney
July 4th, 2009 at 16:36
Sorry Dan I thought you were trying to predict Fergies line-up next season. Ill read more carefully in future.
Given the gay tone Red Rants has been taking the last few posts, Im wondering if that warm feeling you feel when you think about Owen has anything to do with his boyish good looks? One thing about Owen he does have a huge female fan base for reasons I will never understand. One of my female friends has already switched allegiance to Manchester United!
I don’t think Nani has a good physique-too skinny. Probably it is going to be one of Valencia, Macheda or Anderson.
July 4th, 2009 at 16:39
@colver: Damn right you will
Its my fault tbh, shoulda been more clear.
July 4th, 2009 at 16:40
@colver: What gay tone – are you going fucking nuts Colver or what
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July 4th, 2009 at 16:42
@colver: My love for owen is strictly professional, i do dream of his hair at night, and gaze in his eyes in the day, no sir, i do not
July 4th, 2009 at 16:46
@Dan:
, I should bloody hope not Bro 
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July 4th, 2009 at 16:46
@vanderberg: “…hargreave’s sexy physique, hair style..”
Are you female, per chance?
July 4th, 2009 at 16:57
@Craig Mc: Mmmmmm, nuts….
July 4th, 2009 at 17:09
@rldnccc: Pal, you visited the run blog. Go troll somewhere else. Your particular style of anti United venom is not appreciated. So sod off back to Liverpool you Dipper.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:09
SAF: “1million quid to the man that brings me tevez’s boot with his foot in it”
Rio and vida(at the same time): “dibs”
July 4th, 2009 at 17:10
@rldnccc: Then go bury yourself in a hole and do us all a favor.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:16
@vanderberg: Evra is a skinned sausage who is frakken useless. Christ, we would all be over the moon if we had Lahm, which we don’t and probably never will have. But we need something better than Evra. Fortunately we have it already. I think Fabio will be that player given a year or two more to mature. Until then, we have to put up with the useless one and the more than capable O’Shea as his backup, although if you ask me, he should start over him.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:18
Lil’ Mickey smiles and burning desire in the eyes have got be contagious. I fully understand the doubters but we have to admit this attitude can only be good to the squad. As proven in the infamous Champions League final, nothing can beat a unified team, having the same drive toward one goal: winning.
Think of it like this: You’ve been in United so long, you’ve won so many trophies…you got it all the quids, WAG and prestige. After a time, you forget how luckey you are playing for this club not all of them, but it’s easy to lose focus.) Then this lil’ guy who had it all think of his move as a blessing from the Heavens.
He’s excited, he can’t wait to play about football again. How to beat this defender, what set-play will be used. The fun is back. Old fashion football. If Owen scores and Rooney runs to congratulates him on the pitch, he won’t turn his back on him, wanting to have the adulation of the crowd. They say a rotten apple tend to rot the basket. Well, a shinny apple tend to glare on others.
The guy’s got a point to prove to the world. He’s a marvellous project. Maye he will fail but if he proves his doubters wrong, it could well be one of the greatest comeback in recent history.
Old Trafford.
The Theater of Dreams.
Is there a place more appropriate for that?
July 4th, 2009 at 17:18
Can we ignore wee tevez from now on?
I am starting to warm to the own signing. At first I was appalled because it smacked of desperation, but the more I think about it the better I feel. If he flops then who cares we didn’t pay shit for him and we don’t pay him shit. But because of the way the contract is written we only have to pay him for succeeding. So either way we can’t lose. I have a sinking suspicion fergie is gonna end up looking like a genius for this move.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:22
@Dan: I said it on the previous thread, as much as I was not impressed with the timing of this deal, I am not opposed to the deal either and in fact, I have been a closet fan of Owen’s for a long time as I am of Gerrard’s. Oh I hate when they played for the Dippers and did well for them, but lets just say, I respect their abilities as players. I could never say that about Drogba or John Terry or even Vieira or that ass wipe Henry. Owen to me was a great player and I hope he regains a lot of his previous form. He could have a late career Renaissance the way Teddy Sheringham had with us when he was over 30.
Try as I should, I could never dislike Michael Owen. And I used to love the Rooney/ Owen partnership for England. I am looking forward to him becoming a super sub for us and reinventing himself.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:24
@Craig Mc: Newcastle can’t hold on to anyone. They even lost Santiago Munez.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:27
@vanderberg: Please do not refer to Man Utd as MANU. It’s considered very disrespectful. It’s like people referring to that Scottish Play of Shakespeare’s by it’s real name. You know the one that starts with Mac.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:28
@Craig Mc: It’s going to be a year filled with eye sores I believe. We have gone from classy to tacky, and for what?
July 4th, 2009 at 17:34
@Dan: I too noticed how happy he was and to be fair I read years ago when he was a Liverpool player that he often fantasized playing for us despite the rivalry. I know that back when he went to Real Madrid Fergie was interested in him then but of course Rafa would not deal him to us. I also know that he has been a steady favorite of Fergie’s for a long time.
I’m happy for the lad because as far as Scousers go, he is a very likable lad and he deserves better than he’s gotten. Too be honest, my heart went out to him with all his injuries but I especially felt bad for him during his stay at Real Madrid where politics and favoritism kept him on the bench despite his superiority to many of the players playing in front of him. It’s good to see him so happy and feeling rejuvenated and reborn. Hopefully that shows on the pitch and that he finds great form again. The problem is the EPL is a very cynical league and their will hitmen out there trying to put him in the hospital again. And they probably will succeed.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:37
this is the same guy UNITED ‘fans’ were fawning over, joke!
the second he cupped his ears towards Fergie & the Directors box he lost all forms of respect in my eyes. the fact UNITED fans got swept up in his game is what makes me sick, he was a useful player & nothing more; his reputation goes far before him & we won’t win or lose the League because of Tevez.
he claimed he wanted to play for UNITED all the way up until April/May time yet he’s now saying he was never going to sign for UNITED long before this, joker!
UNITED fans better take a long look @ themselves before taking players of this ilk under their bussom again, we’re all made to look like idiots because of ‘fans’ that put player before club – time & time again.
Tevez needs to know his place, he’s the Argentinian Alan Smith (i was an Alan Smith fan btw
), players like this get all the adulation whilst players like Park take all the criticism, Park may not be a top-class winger but he knows his limitations unlike ‘the Argentinian Alan Smith’ – punk!
July 4th, 2009 at 17:40
@NicoQB: no dude I am not.
@Grognard: I think evra is far better than o’shea. what does o’shea do on the football field
->ok he is a good in the air
->when he gets the ball with yards of space ahead of him he does not go forward and just passes it.
->he is a kind of player who just remains at the same level no matter how many games does he play.
coming to evra he is quick,has an attacking instinct plays the one touch passing nicely.
oh,when I play fifa or PES manager mode with MU i just sell o’shea right off in the first transfer season
July 4th, 2009 at 17:42
@Zauberlehrling: You know what I liked about his attitude mate? He meets with Fergie for breakfast and Fergie tells him he’d like him to play for Man Utd. He doesn’t then defer to his agent or ask what the terms are. He just says yes right away and that he would be honored. No hesitation or decision making process at all. He saw this as an opportunity of a lifetime and that money and guarantees were not important. He just wants to play football for a team that appreciates and wants him and to prove his critics wrong. When United called, he was over the moon instantly and he never let anything else get in his way. To Hell with Liverpool, old fans and acquaintances and all that rivalry shite. He knew this was a golden opportunity and he jumped into as quickly and as enthusiastically as if Kimberly Walsh asked CraigMC for a one night stand. Pre engagement of course.
You gotta love Owen for that.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:45
@Grognard: ok grog
I got that
July 4th, 2009 at 17:48
in other news, Ronaldo has been the utmost gentleman since leaving. in a weird way, i respect him more now he’s left than when he was @ UNITED. he’s not slagged off the club or the team, he simply wanted to go to Madrid & i can’t blame a man for wanting what he wants.
comments like this – http://fourfourtwo.com/news/england/33398/default.aspx , have truly made me respect the man,i thought he’d be far more petulant but he’s been gracious.
*this has probably been covered but it’s my 2pence worth.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:50
@Grognard:
Wow, man…I had the very exact same feeling! The happiness he shows on all the pictures that were taken IS contagious. I had this really good feeling yesterday about all of this. The lad is likeable, for sure.
For me, it was when the journalist asked him how the meeting went and Mickey said along the lines of: I let my agent take care of all the details. All I wanted to know was: where do I sign? We only talked about football.
Love that. The lil’ lad so probably so happy he would have signed a contract even if he had to pay to play of United. I know one thing: the smiles and happiness were genuine. You cannot fake that.
Now, like I told you on another forum: Gimme a piece of lahm and an attacking world class midfielder and we could be in for quite a treat.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:50
@vanderberg: What does O’Shea do on the pitch? Well for one, he doesn’t make mistakes and give the ball up. Secondly, he is responsible and he plays his position with discipline and doesn’t continually vacate his area and his responsibilities on the pitch. He doesn’t cough up the ball to opponents, he is much better defensively and in the air and he is also capable of scoring a goal or two. Here’s a thing, when he goes forward or even when he doesn’t he can cross the ball decently and his passes are usually precise and not blind. Bottom line, he’s not a skinned sausage. Evra is the worst crosser of all left backs in the game. When was the last time he made a forward run that led to a good cross or excellent pass at the end of his run? Try never. Ever since he returned from his 4 game suspension, he has been a shadow of his formerly semi-useless self. Frankly, I cannot stomach him and his uselessness any more. We hardly give up goals as a team and as a back four but when we do, usually 65% to 70% of them occur due to a mistake by Evra. Go back and look at the two goals scored against us in the CL Final. The first was a mistake in positioning by Evra. The second was a blind giveaway by Evra that led to Messi’s header. He is shite.
And if I hear one more person compliment a player because he does well for him on a fucking video game I will have a fucking embolism.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:53
@vanderberg: Too be honest, Red Ranter once told me the reason for it because I was not aware of the history behind it. If you are reading this RR, perhaps you can enlighten us again on the MANU thing as I have forgotten why it should enrage us so?
July 4th, 2009 at 17:56
@flu3: I was very impressed with Ronaldo’s words, show of love and respect for both Fergie and United as well as us fans. He showed some real class. I also think it was brave and very classy for him to come back to Manchester and meet with Fergie for dinner to say thanks for everything. I am very proud and happy with the lad for this great sign of respect and class. He needed to go to live out his dream, which I believe will end up a nightmare, but he needs to find that out himself. I wish him well.
July 4th, 2009 at 17:58
@Grognard: exactly, don’t get me wrong some of his antics were embarrassing but it shows a touch of humuility we don’t see from him on the pitch.
as far as wishing him well, i hope he fails & goes on to not win anything again but that’s because he must learn.
July 4th, 2009 at 18:04
@Zauberlehrling: You seem really obsessed with Lahm mate. I too love him to death as he is one of my top ten favorite players period, but I wouldn’t get my hopes up of us ever signing him. First off, Bayern isn’t selling and you what they are like when they are in a defensive posture. Secondly, Fergie and united have not been linked to him in any way or form and don’t seem to think there is a need at LB, or RB for that matter. And Lahm has never expressed a desire to come play for us. So you are frustrating yourself for nothing.
I tend to get all flustered about players who I know are linked to us and those who I know are diehard United supporters like Adler, Pogrebnyak, Huntelaar and Aguero. And other than them, the players I would most like to see at Old Trafford in the near future would be Arshavin, Alex Sanchez, Neuer, Marin, Lahm, Torres, Hernanes, Melo, Berg and Toivonen. I’ll bet you right now that we will seen none of them ever. Fergie just isn’t on my wave length any more when it comes to judging talent.
July 4th, 2009 at 18:05
Isn’t it in correlation with the plane crash of Munich? I heard the story of the song that was invented to mock those who died in the plane crash.
Man U, Man U, went on a plane! Man U, Man U, never came back again!”
“Man U, never intended in coming home!”
July 4th, 2009 at 18:09
@flu3: Ah come on mate, that sounds an awful lot like bitterness to me. I hope he does very well for himself because he still is one of my all time favorite players. I just hope he wins no team awards. I want Real Madrid to crash and burn and go bankrupt due to their outrageous debt load they have created to rebuild their sorry team. I hope it backfires on them and that the team ends up in the same shape as Liverpool and Valencia and even worse. I hate that team as I see them being the Anti-Christ of football. I am hoping that Ronaldo does well but that his time there helps him reflect and realize what a true Utopia he left so that he could enter Hell. Wishful thinking. With all those players they will probably win everything in sight for the next five years.
July 4th, 2009 at 18:12
Now a few last words to Carlos Tevez for his recent attack on Sir Alex Ferguson. Carlos…….FUCK OFF AND DIE YOU UGLY JUDAS. I can’t wait until you return to Old Trafford. But the fact is, you will probably be on the bench….where you belong, you useless and talentless git.
July 4th, 2009 at 18:16
@Zauberlehrling: Yeah, I think it is.
And yet all the ABUs I know insist on calling my team that to my face. I swear its painful on the ears.
July 4th, 2009 at 18:19
@Grognard: that’s because it is bitterness, i’d never deny that.
whether i (or any of us) wish him well will have no impact on what he does in a Madrid kit, so i could care less but if i had have an opinion, i would hope he falls flat on his face. he doesn’t play for UNITED anymore so fook him, i can like & admire opposition players but if they win or not isn’t of my concern (very few players permitting). he’s one of your favourite ever players so i can understand your view, i was sort of like that with Beckham & would be with Rooney but Ronaldo even with his comments lately doesn’t get anywhere near their status in my book.
& on another note, i doubt they win enough to cover the tab of their spending over the next 5years, Zidane only won so much for them & there was only one Ze-Zi; they’ve done what they usually do; bought lods of forwards & one defender who will shoulder all the responsibility defensively. they’ll be killer going forward but will always leak a goal.
July 4th, 2009 at 18:22
Owen looks way, way, way too similar to Carrick on FIFA 09!
Excpet for a huge difference in playing style, I cant tell them apart when playing a match… 
BTW, Owen has scored 9 goals in 100 minutes- All from the bench!
I am really happy he has joined us, as I was a closet fan of him ever since he scored that blinding goal against Argentina! Didnt understna dmuch of that rivalery when I was ust 5, so… 
Anyway, he is an awsome player and even if he has lost some of his speed he is still incredibly fast! He is probably the fastest englishman ever produced, even ahead of Walcott, when he was in his prime! And he cant have lost all of that, so I still think he cant outpace the likes of Jagielka, Skrtl and Carvalho. And his finishing speaks for itself! He is a great striker, and if he can keep fit I think Fergie has made a masterstroke here! Welcome to Manchester United Michael Owen! 
July 4th, 2009 at 18:27
Micky Owen is a red, is a red, is a red! Mickey Owen is a red, he hastes Scousers!
July 4th, 2009 at 18:29
Oh, and Tevez can fuck off for all I care. And if he ends up in Manchester Shitty, serves him well! He wil rot on the bench with stinky players like Bellamy and Caicedo next to him. Fucking bastard, sod off you piewanker.
July 4th, 2009 at 18:32
I can seriously see Owen score a hat-trick at Anfield this season… Anybody with me?
July 4th, 2009 at 18:34
@Grognard: Well no team wins or awards in the competitions United are in also
, we don’t mind if he wins Spanish league trophy and domestic cups do we Grog? 
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July 4th, 2009 at 18:35
Nani+Owen=Goals
Anderson+Owen=Goals
Rooney+Owen=Goals
Valencia+Owen=Goals
How can this signing possibly fail?!
July 4th, 2009 at 18:46
@Grognard: Pretty much covers it for me mate.
July 4th, 2009 at 18:48
@Grognard:
– you stirrer 
– trying to get me in bother again, with that BIG wooden spoon of yours 
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July 4th, 2009 at 18:53
@vanderberg: Mmmmm, and I thought you knew football
. If that’s you opinion on Sheasy, well I see you don’t know footie at all 
. Sheasy my friend gets forwrad, but more responsibly end effectively then Evra does. He gets good balls into the area when he does go forward, and he is 1000 times MORE likely to get into the area occasionally and sneak an important goal. Evra cannot do that, and his forages forward are more harm to the team than good. Not so with Sheasy!
July 4th, 2009 at 18:55
@Craig Mc: She is fit that Kimberly I must say
July 4th, 2009 at 18:57
I wonder if fergie is now prepared to pay the £20mil for costa now?
Same with sanchez, but its one or the other for me.
July 4th, 2009 at 18:58
@Grognard: WOw
this is becoming a slug fest.But u can’t say a player is bad depending upon one game.if u consider the CL final then i say that vidic can also be considered a bad player as he was completed beaten by Eto’o and it was very easy to score from there.I suspect that u are being a bit racist there saying that evra is skinned sausage.After the chelsea training spat,he has come under severe pressure and but he has never buckled down and performed very well.how much u say about o’shea good than evra,sorry dude I better prefer evra not in fifa but at LB at united.oh and by the way in fifa i did sell both of them and buy a fantastic LB.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:00
@Grognard: Funny thing is though Grog, most of Owen’s injuries, if I remember correctly were hamstring tears, strains, or pure fluke twisting/falling awkwardly. I dont think he got injuries from opposition players clobbering him at all strangely enough. Well they couldn’t catch him could they?
July 4th, 2009 at 19:01
@Dan: I would give my left nut for De Rossi he is so right for our side it is unbelievable but probably just a pipe dream
July 4th, 2009 at 19:04
@vanderberg: Errrr mate, none of us are racist on this blog, and not nice of you to even think that. Evra is known as skinned sausage, nothing to do with race or colour, but because attackers can be SO CLOSE to him, and yet get by him with the quickest and utmost of ease. We call that skinning, and sausages are easy to skin, so that why we joke about him being skinned like a sausage
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July 4th, 2009 at 19:06
@Stephen: I think your missus would have something to say about that Bro
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July 4th, 2009 at 19:07
@Craig Mc:
July 4th, 2009 at 19:10
@vanderberg: How is he being racist? Evra is shit period! hes a bloody sausage that gets skinned constantly, hows that racist?
July 4th, 2009 at 19:12
@Zauberlehrling: I’m all for great comebacks Bro
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July 4th, 2009 at 19:12
COCKS OUT!!!!!!!!!!
RedCafe is NOT dead!!!!
http://www.redcafe.net/maintenance.html
July 4th, 2009 at 19:14
@gator:
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July 4th, 2009 at 19:31
@flu3: And you wonder why he couldn’t give a fuck about us? I think you answered that very well.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:34
@Craig Mc: I hope he wins all the personal awards but I hope Madrid as a team and as an organization crashes and burns one day. They are evil and disgust me. And I say this as a die hard New York Yankees fan. Even the Yankees have shown more class than these pricks over the years.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:35
@Craig Mc: I try.
OOPS! My cauldron is boiling over as we speak.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:37
@Craig Mc: You tell him Bro.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:38
@Stephen: Fit to be tied……..and played with.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:42
@vanderberg: This is no slugfest mate. I’m just stating the truth. Whether you want to believe me is your prerogative. And I am not so stupid as to judge a player one bad performance. Like I said before, his form was always erratic at best but he really slipped in to Stuperville when he returned from his suspension. Ever since then he looks like a baseball player who has quit steroids. He is half the player he used to be and he seems to be getting worse by the week. Go back and look at every goal we gave up this year in which he played. You will see him either cough up the ball, or be way out of position or get skinned by an opponent. It’s bad enough that he is a horrible defender but his end game after he moves forward is awful. His supply to forwards is an absolute joke. I wouldn’t start him if I was managing the Vancouver Whitecaps here in Canada. That’s how poor I think he is. The reason he is still with us is because LB is a tough position to fill with any real efficiency.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:45
@Grognard:
July 4th, 2009 at 19:45
@Craig Mc: That’s true but again, a twist or a sprain is usaually induced by having to do a turn or move awkwardly and usually it is brought about by opponent pressure. But all these scars and damaged parts he has can certainly not take a pounding and I have noticed over the years that teams like to be very physical with United forwards. So I worry.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:47
@Stephen: Your wife or girlfriend may not appreciate that sacrifice mate.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:49
@vanderberg: And for your information I am a racist. I generally hate the human race.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:49
@RedDevilEddy: Does this mean he hates himself then?
July 4th, 2009 at 19:50
@Grognard: Well mate one does what one can Bro!
July 4th, 2009 at 19:51
Do we all think that is it for the summer then boys? I have a bad feeling it is.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:52
Grognard you serious how could you not rate evra he is in my eyes the best LB in world football. yes he is not great crossing but he offers that burst of pace down the left that o shea can never provide.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:55
@steve: I like Evra mate but won’t say he is the best in the World, he had a very poor second half of the season unlike a certain rent boy.
July 4th, 2009 at 19:56
@steve: He’s been poor last season. Certainly not the best left back last season. Also you might want to use punctuation to separate sentences. No offence, but it’s pretty hard to read your posts because there is no break in thought.
July 4th, 2009 at 20:18
@Zauberlehrling: brilliant A+
July 4th, 2009 at 20:49
@steve: There’s something wrong with your eyes then mate
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July 4th, 2009 at 21:00
@Zauberlehrling: Well said, brilliant. I feel Owen will do wonders for this team, the desire and passion he showed and for him describing this move as a “miracle”. Im really looking forward to seeing him play, as well as Valencia. We have switched two selfish, egosucking players and replaced them with one player who sees this move as a miracle and a shy, equadorian winger who has been dreaming of this move ever since a child. Its gonna be an awsome season, I feel!
July 4th, 2009 at 21:02
@NicoQB:
Maybe, but as long as he loves United Im happy. 
July 4th, 2009 at 21:04
What can we all do to make sure SAF deals with strengthening our MF? Any suggestions?
July 4th, 2009 at 21:04
Michael Owen for the PFA player of the year, Ballon DoR and Golden Boot winner 2010!!!
In the words of the Special Puppet, “Why Not?” Well, if he stays injury free that is…
July 4th, 2009 at 21:06
@Craig Mc: Lets kidnap Andy, Hargo and Nani!
If Grog joins, we are gonna do it! Then he will need another midfielder… 
July 4th, 2009 at 21:08
@Craig Mc: threaten him at gunpoint…
July 4th, 2009 at 21:16
Those are not good suggestions guys
, I am deadly serious 
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July 4th, 2009 at 21:23
@Craig Mc: Alrighty then…
Maybe start a poll, or we could all send letters to Fergie where we demand a new midfielder. If the lads from ROM could join in, then I bet we would have had more than 200-300 lads… Does Fergie have a Facebook or Twitter?
July 4th, 2009 at 21:35
RedDevilEddys predictions for 2009/10 season.
Premier League
Winners: Manchester United
Runners up: Chelsea
Relegated: Wolves, Hull, Portsmouth
Top acorers: Rooney, Torres and Arshavin
Top assists: Nani, Young and Gerrard
Player of the season: Wayne Rooney
Young player of the season: Rafael da Silva
Champions League
Winner: Barcelona
Runner up: Liverpool
Top scorer: Leo Messi
Top assists: Xavi
Player of the season: Iniesta
This is me trying to be realistic, not biased. I dont think our CURRENT squad has the capabilities to win the Champions League, but I feel the Premier League very possible. We have a good enough squad to win that one, but when coming up agaisnt teams like Barca or Real, we will need a midfield enforcer. So unless Anderson or Hargreaves can step up to the plate and become great midfielders for our team, or we dont buy a player like De Rossi/Essien/Toure, it will be difficult competiong with the top dogs in European football. Still, I feel Liverpool will do well there if they can keep hold of their players, but it will cost them the League. Still, Barca are waaaay to strong at the moment to be beaten buy the likes of Liverpool or ourselves.
Still, this prediction is based on the current squads of the teams in Europe. Real will fail because of a terrible defense, Chelsea are getting too old and Inter just suck…
July 4th, 2009 at 21:35
July 4th, 2009 at 21:50
@RedDevilEddy: Any United fans who backs the scousers to get to the CL final before Man Utd, well…………. SHAME ON YOU BRO!
July 4th, 2009 at 21:55
@Craig Mc: Just want the Liverpool fans and players to feel horrible and busted like we ded after the Barca loss…
If it was up to me Liverpool would go out in the group stages, as far away from the final as possible. 
July 4th, 2009 at 22:15
redrant sorry I agree I take no breaks haha on my sentances LOL, I will correct it. my worry is the guardian seem to like what we are doing damn. when the guardian give united bad press we usually win the league.
July 4th, 2009 at 22:23
@Craig Mc: what do you think of Michael Owen signing mate, after a few days of mulling this move over in my head I must admit Im starting to warm to it. He has been very unlucky with injuries but his strike rate has remained very good.
And if my memory serves me right you were one of the loudest to shout about our wastefulness in front of goal last year, a fit Owen would have had a field day at OT last season and offers something that we dont have, and having watched his interviews since signing it seems that he is genuinely delighted to be joining United.
It could be SAFs most shrewdest signing ever, if he can stay fit and healthy and gets plenty of playing then theres no doubt he will score goals for us and having missed out on our primary targets I think its a wise move not to be panicked into paying 15 to 20 million for an average joe who we dont really want, Graeme Souness is already predicting the possibilty of Owen finishing as top scorer, a bit premature maybe but he brings that potential.
July 4th, 2009 at 22:25
Craig Mc: what do you think of Michael Owen signing mate, after a few days of mulling this move over in my head I must admit Im starting to warm to it. He has been very unlucky with injuries but his strike rate has remained very good.
And if my memory serves me right you were one of the loudest to shout about our wastefulness in front of goal last year, a fit Owen would have had a field day at OT last season and offers something that we dont have, and having watched his interviews since signing it seems that he is genuinely delighted to be joining United.
It could be SAFs most shrewdest signing ever, if he can stay fit and healthy and gets plenty of playing then theres no doubt he will score goals for us and having missed out on our primary targets I think its a wise move not to be panicked into paying 15 to 20 million for an average joe who we dont really want, Graeme Souness is already predicting the possibilty of Owen finishing as top scorer, a bit premature maybe but he brings that potential.
July 4th, 2009 at 22:32
A berbatov-owen partner ship would be, dare i say it, orgasmic *drools*
July 4th, 2009 at 22:39
@Fred The Red: I was one of the loudest dissenters when I first heard United were talking with Owen. I wasn’t concerned he was an ex L’pool player so much, but it was indeed the injury thing, and after Saha, I wasn’t thrilled on getting another injury risk in again. I thought Owens best days were behind him, and that we were out of our minds to consider getting him. Since his interviews though, I am impressed with his desire to come good again, to recapture the years the locust has eaten, and to do his every upmost to repay the faith SAF was entrusting in him. I think SAF knows exactly what to expect from Owen, and I believe it is just to score goals, and that is the only contribution that SAF wants of him. Owen has confidence in himself, and in the interviews he says the way to silence the doubters and knockers, is on the field, and he is glad he has that opportunity with United. So time will tell Fred. I really hope the lad does come good though, and we help him to get to the World Cup next year.
July 4th, 2009 at 22:41
@Dan: if we can get Owen fit and healthy mate then there a big chance he would be a great asset mate, if it doesnt work out then we have lost nothing, but if it does then we have gained a top level goal getter who could give us something we have been missing for a long time, a fox in the box, Im pretty upbeat about this move.
July 4th, 2009 at 22:48
Fred the Red, what would you think about getting Ruud back as well for a couple of years, his last couple of years? Last time he was here, he wouldn’t agree to a bit part, but who knows now, and he is another good goalscorer. Now everyone on here will think I am NUTS. But players’goalscorers like these on 2 year contracts, will help us while the youngsters come more of age??? Is that crazy???
July 4th, 2009 at 22:57
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/07/04/glenn-hoddle-michael-owen-will-be-better-than-carlos-tevez-upfront-for-manchester-united-115875-21494890/
For once, i agree with the disabled hater!
July 4th, 2009 at 22:58
@Craig Mc: Hes been pretty unfortunate with injuries mate, the broken ankle and the metatarsal injuries coud have happened to any one and the knee injury was by all accounts thoroughly checked during the medical, his main problem has been not getting a clear 5 to 6 month injury free run to build his fitness and body back up.
I remember Roy Keane being sidelined for a few months about 6 years ago and when he returned people were saying that he was not the same player and that the injury had taken part of his game away, but the reality is that when a player returns from a long term injury it takes a good 3 or 4 months of game time to get properly fit, and Keane went on to play some great stuff for us. Training only gets you 70 to 80 percent fit mate, playing matches gets you the rest and this is something that Owen has been denied, if he gets a good pre season under his belt and stays injury free for the next 2 or 3 months then it could be like signing a 20 to 30 million pound player, worth the effort if you ask me.
July 4th, 2009 at 23:02
@Craig Mc: I wouldn’t have been against Ruud coming back mate, but not now we have signed Owen, it would have been one or the other, both at the same time is too big of a gamble mate.
July 4th, 2009 at 23:08
Craig na van nistlerooy much too slow. we have already have berbatov who is slow and signed one player past his prime we do not need another, not to mention vds g neville giggs scholes coming to the end of their careers. we will end up like milan a place for players past their sell by date.
July 4th, 2009 at 23:28
1. Eto’o doesn’t want to move to Manchester City, a middle table team. Eto’o says that he will drop his astronomical wage and signing on money, if Man United come in for him. If he leaves Barca, he would like a big club like United – hmmmmmmm!
2. Michael Owen has apparently been trying to return to Anfield for last 3 years +, and would have signed for them for 25,000 a week if they would have had him. His reps were talking to L’pool even as he was at OT so NOTW report, but Rafa unlike SAF didn’t want to take a chance. They go on to say that once Owen sat down with Fergie, he was convinced and wanted to sign for United there and then. I don’t think he ever thought he had ANY CHANCE of United coming in for him, and he was trying his best to return to Pool, as he wanted CL football.
3. Nani is extremely worried and insecure about his future at OT. He is going to seek SAF out during pre season and find out where he stands. Athletico and Villareal have enquired about him, and 2 clubs in Italy, and he needs to make decisions about his future .
I told you he had offers from Spain, and would probably go. So SAF get your finger out eh? SAF thinks he will come good, but Nani wants reassurances!
NOTW eh – believe them or not?
July 5th, 2009 at 0:29
two more for the future!
http://goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/04/1363368/manchester-united-set-to-complete-deal-for-charlton-athletic
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11854_5414560,00.html
July 5th, 2009 at 0:43
@steve: Burst of pace down the line means nothing if the end product is crap. And if you think he is the best LB in the world, I suggest you start watching more football and more teams play. He’s rubbish.
July 5th, 2009 at 0:45
@RedDevilEddy: Bottom line is he said and did all the right thing when he was unveiled. Now he has to show us on the pitch.
July 5th, 2009 at 0:47
@Craig Mc: The one prediction I will make is that in 2009/10, Liverpool will win sweet fuck all.
July 5th, 2009 at 1:56
When a caller asked about Luis Fabiano to Vickery, he said that he’s had a torrid time playing for Rennes in Northern France in the past, and he’s been on record saying he wants nothing to do with Northern Europe. He apparently hated everything about that place, and it seems Rennes is a pretty miserable place to live in according to Andy Brassell (the European correspondent in World Football Phone-in).
July 5th, 2009 at 2:05
I have a question, where was fergie when we signed owen? he was not in any of the picture that were taken.
July 5th, 2009 at 2:06
fergie needs to get on twitter so we can know every move he makes, he might be traveling to sign someone I HOPE!.
July 5th, 2009 at 2:29
grognard patrice evra rubbish haha. he has been part of the best united defence in the game and uniteds ever had, ok he had a bad second half to the season that means he is all of a sudden average. grognard no offence but you were the same guy that thought selling rooney was a good idea, when in fact rooney was uniteds future who showed last season he is no doubt the best forward and the most important forward at the club.
July 5th, 2009 at 2:33
ROOOOONEY LOL did you see fergie in any pictures when united signed nani anderson and hargreaves nope who else could have said get owen of course ferguson he was the one who wanted owen, no one will even dare challenge fegies power it is an unthinkable thing to do. its like challenging king henry the 8th back in his time, its a line you do not cross when you have its off with your head its that simple. same with brian clough
July 5th, 2009 at 3:03
steve its not that i am saying its forced signing, its that i hope the reason for him not being is that he is trying to sign someone else. and he was with nani and hargreaves when they signed up http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/fergienaniharDM_468×300.jpg
July 5th, 2009 at 3:16
ROOOOONEY wasnt fergie seeing ronaldo before he is gone that fair well dinner maybe thats the reason. I ment when anderson and nani were first seen signed fergie was not there.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:36
@Craig Mc: Two weeks ago Nani was giving us all reassurances about his commitment to make good and be the next Ronaldo. Now he sounds like a pouting wuss whose ego is fragile and who feels he is being ignored. Look for him to be dealt within the next few weeks if this holds up.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:39
@steve: you support my point which i was saying to grognard and every body told that I was wrong.Evra is far better than o’shea but no body thinks so.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:39
@steve: What part of the word rubbish do you not understand? He takes very little credit for the team’s great defensive record. Part of Vidic’s greatness is his ability to cover for the Skinned Sausage and get him off the hook. How many people have to echo my views before you realize that I am not alone in this view? Evra is a pile of French rubbish.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:41
@vanderberg: Perhaps the two of you should get together and form the “Patrice Evra Lonely Hearts Club Band?”
July 5th, 2009 at 3:46
@Grognard: grog,sorry for the racist remark.I understand your point but i am not saying he is the best LB in the world as steve said. But I am saying that he has far more technical ability than o’shea does and ok o’shea has performed better this season.but when u compare both of them for their consistency and performances at OT I am saying that I would rate evra better than o’shea any day.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:47
@Grognard: In all fairness, he was shit in the second half of the season. Before that I thought he was good to excellent!!
I don’t know what happened to him, but he never did regain form after his suspension & injury.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:58
@Grognard: no the three of us. me,steve and redrich(i think) support evra
July 5th, 2009 at 4:03
@Craig Mc: Eto’o would be a good signing. Large, prolific target man that Rooney and Berbatov can play off of. Deadly at close range and still pacy.
Nice to hear we were Owen’s second option after, even, Anfield wouldn’t pay the minimum. I’m just seething about this signing, and how it makes us look in the eyes of RM, Barca, Chelski, and the Filth.
July 5th, 2009 at 4:04
@vanderberg: Don’t get me wrong, mate. Evra has been shite since christmas!!
July 5th, 2009 at 4:51
@Redrich: Who cares when he stats banging them in? I’d be more worried how I look being Chelsea spending £50mil on Pato who’ll do fuck all!
July 5th, 2009 at 5:16
@Traverse: Well all of that remains to be seen. If SAF stands pat on his strikers, you’ll be as seething as I am when MO’s first bout of injury happens.
The cost factor will be forgotten when we struggle to compete against tough defenses and we repeatedly end up with goalless draws and losses attributed to lack of attacking prowess. The fact that we didn’t spend anything on him doesn’t impress me at all. Its a smoke screen that, apparently, we have trouble seeing through!!
July 5th, 2009 at 6:15
@Redrich:
News of the World: For credibility, I’ll pass. Before I believe a newspaper whose headline is: Michael Jackson’s unseen video nasty and SOAP NEWS: I can’t corrie on…well is there any need to say anything else? It’s about as good as Lady Di’s secret alien love child.
Furthermore, when you want to give credibility to an article, you have to dig infos about the writer. Here’s an interesting info: Chris Bascombe. Liverpool Echo journalist, local lad, self-proclaimed Liverpool supporter and self-expressed Sun hater has “defected” to the News Of The World provoking much discussion and bile on several independent LFC Forums.
Self-proclaimed liverpool supporter. The guy obviously doesn’t have an agenda, eh? Stirring shit is scousers’s land, is it not?
July 5th, 2009 at 6:22
@Zauberlehrling: If you’re talking about the rumor that MO was ditched by the Filth before he signed with us, then I’d say there’s more of a probability of that being true than un-true. You wanna do pistols at dawn over it??
Of course, if you’re not talking about that, then I have no idea what you’re on about!!
July 5th, 2009 at 6:32
@Redrich:
Pistols at dawn? Ye olde far west style? I guess I’ll have to take the old Colt with me, then?*
Yes, I was talking about that story. I am not saying is not true but the journalist’s credibility isn’t worth shite as is his newspaper.
Come on, that’s only stirring shit to sell papers. If the news had been known for so long (repeated attempts), why getting the story out now?
Cheap journalism 101.
July 5th, 2009 at 6:39
@Zauberlehrling: I am not talking about journalistic credibility, you are!!
I’m talking about the bullshit signing of MO, the very one that we are all supposed to swoon over!!
I do not need the Sunday’s headlines to persuade me or dissuade me, but I do admit that, in this case, they add grist to my mill!!
July 5th, 2009 at 6:49
@Craig Mc: I don’t believe that report on Nani. For one, there aren’t any direct quotes from the man himself. Even if it was true I can’t really blame Nani. At least he has the class not to whine in public like Tevez.
Regarding Eto’o, I have my misgivings about him. He’s an extremely whiny, moody character. Every summer at Barcelona he finds something to whine about. Last year he was talking about how he felt ‘unloved’. This year it’s insane wages.
Secondly, I think we may not sign him because of his wage demands and the fact that he’s already 28+. It would make a mockery of the over 26 policy. Also, I think he doesn’t have the heading prowess which is what we seem to lack upfront. And apart from that, it will throw a spanner in the works if we are to get Berbatov and Rooney as our primary strike force.
July 5th, 2009 at 7:00
@Red Ranter: How would it throw a spanner in the works?? You think that Rooney and Berbatov work well together, or could, with Owen thrown in? These two are just screaming for a big strike partner to play with!!
I guess if we just rule out the whiny’s and the moody’s and the unloved, we just end up with the Owen’s of this world. And by the way, I do think he violates our 26 policy too!!
July 5th, 2009 at 7:35
@Redrich: He didn’t cost us a dime so there is no question of diminishing value — which was main motivation behind our below-26 policy in the first place.
Regarding Rooney and Berbatov we need to find a way to make it work. That’s 60m of talent right there and it will be a damn shame if it doesn’t. Also, I think both Owen or Eto’o would benefit from Berbatov alongside them rather than Rooney. So buying Eto’o would force Rooney out wide more often than not because I’m pretty sure the Cameroonian wouldn’t appreciate being benched.
I think Berbatov will benefit from having a full pre-season and Ferguson should work out a way to make Rooney work with Berbatov.
I am convinced that the striker situation is the least of our worries. We should really go for a creative winger/midfilderl and a dominant central midfielder.
July 5th, 2009 at 8:27
@Red Ranter: Well no, because you are making a case that we could prevail, and perhaps do better than last season, with the subtraction of Tevez and the addition of Owen. To most people that is at best a wash!!
Im sure, as you are, that Berbatov will benefit from his time with the team (although I’m not sure how much more of a benefit the preseason could help over the full season of integration with the team he’s already had) and I expect improvements from him because of that. But the fact remains that we were anemic in attack last season and we’ve not taken anything for that yet!
I think the addition of a CMF’er is vital also, and I’ve made my points about that repeatedly, but without that vital attacking force ahead of him, we will be mired in the “Italian” style of play that Grognard refers to all the time!! It will not suit us, or our league, or most of the players in our squad.
The key benefit of the Owen aquisition, so it seems, is the fact it didn’t cost the club a penny. We can wallow in the knowledge that if things don’t work out, we can simply wipe our hands of the whole situation, nothing lost and, of course, nothing gained. In the meantime every one of our competitors have taken a step or two ahead and we are just simply treading water!!
July 5th, 2009 at 9:30
RR speaking of tevez’s whining he is on it AGAIN omg can he stfu for like one day
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_5415487,00.html
July 5th, 2009 at 9:47
@Redrich: I am not making any case for doing better. I am saying if we improve the service from midfield and add some more creativity on the wings we’d do just fine with our strike force. I think we need to evolve to a system that looks to spread the goals around the pitch, rather than the Ronaldo reliant system of old. So having a midfielder who could pitch in about 10-12 goals and a creative winger to give us that spark to break down defences is what I am getting at. Who that maybe, I can’t really say.
I think our next season won’t be pretty regardless of what we buy. It will be a transition season. If we do better, it will be yet another personal triumph for Ferguson. I think we must be prepared for a graft.
July 5th, 2009 at 9:58
@vanderberg: He has more technical ability by far but he has a ten cent head. He is a brainless twit and makes stupid mistakes. And I find it incredibly frustrating to see him make a great run down the left side only to screw up a cross or easy pass. The man has no end product. He’s got little flash and hardly no substance.
July 5th, 2009 at 10:00
@Redrich: True, but there is an old saying that goes something like this; “What have you done for us lately?” Also, “You’re only as good as your last game”. In his case, his last 20 games.
July 5th, 2009 at 10:02
@vanderberg: Do you really want me to compare you a certain comedic trio that used to make comic films in old Hollywood?
Do you really want me to say it? Nah, you deserve more respect despite being in a small minority of seriously troubled individuals. 
July 5th, 2009 at 11:16
Right, im gonna throw my spanner into the works.
For a midfielder, how about a cheeky bid for Ronaldinho?
July 5th, 2009 at 11:23
@Red Ranter: It seems you have now accepted our lot, but I have not.
The system you suggest (without Ronaldo) is probably the most realistic of scenarios, but to honest with you, it’s the least desirable of all options that I think about now.
To replace Ronaldo, we have an impossible task, but to replace his production you would need to change things somewhat. Change from the unpredictable, one-man show, to a more conventional attacking style that relies on precise finishing as well as precise service.
The Rooney/Berbatov partnership has yet to show any promise at all, with a relatively small CF supported by a relatively lazy set-up guy. There is not a dynamic aspect to it, and swapping them back and forth and throwing Owen into the mix will not change things.
We have 2 valuble players, that individually, have made their mark on the game but not on the team!! We need someone, acting proficiently and without prejudice to make a conduit between these 2 and the success they want. Like Rooney with Heskey for England, like Berbatov with Keene for Spurs.
The Rooney/Berbatov partnership will not have it’s place in history, but individually these two have huge potentials and lets hope it comes to fruition with UNITED!!
July 5th, 2009 at 11:25
@Dan: How cheeky, mate??
July 5th, 2009 at 11:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIqfqNw1fKo
A good Owen Vid.
July 5th, 2009 at 11:38
@Redrich: £6-10mil.
Though we have the money, so i would say £15mil is reasonable also.
July 5th, 2009 at 11:52
Well that failed
July 5th, 2009 at 11:57
@vanderberg: In terms of usefulness to the team, and chipping in the odd goals, I would rate Sheasy better than Evra anyday. Not to mention that Sheasy has PASSION where I feel rightly or wrongly that Evra doesn’t.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:03
@Grognard: Grog WTF, you know as well as I do, he was being ignored for the whole of last season, and you cannot deny that. Also, you should read the article in the NOTW if you haven’t already done so, where it implies that Nani is being unnerved by all the intimations that keep leaking out of OT that he will be used in swap deals. I don’t understand your thinking sometimes Grog, not so long ago you were calling Nani a wuss for not making enough NOISE and Complaint, but just sitting there and taking it. Now he is asking SAF where he stands in his plans, you are calling him a complaining wuss – you need to make your mind up mate, because you are doubleminded about Nani
.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:18
@ROOOOONEY: Wow reading that article, I really do feel now that Tevez is not at all happy in himself, or settled about his decision to leave OT. Heinze had a little say, but someone remind me please, I think he went a lot more quietly in the end than Tevez is going, and only had the odd moan. Tevez seems obsessed with United still, and if I was Man City, I would be worried about his continual talking about United and Fergie. He seems terrified that United fans don’t understand his decision, and afraid of not being loved on his return to OT, so that he keeps trying to blame everybody but himself for his demise and choices. I almost feel sorry for him now, he is certainly NOT RIGHT IN HIS HEAD! He knows he is in for a torrid time on his return to OT.
July 5th, 2009 at 13:45
Craig I agree Tevez is not a happy bunny. I think he would have done better to make a fresh start in Italy or somewhere. It will be hard for him playing for the second class team in Manchester having failed at the number one team! I also do not fancy his chances of playing when Santa Cruz and Robinho will be ahead of him in the pecking order and City seem keen on buying either Et’oo or Guiza.
Nani has a right to want reassurances about his future. He is a young player and he cannot develop without regular games. If he is not in Fergusons plans he needs to move elsewhere to develop. I also think if Fergie gave him more reassurances he would not feeel the neeed to try to impress so much and would become more of a team player.
Dan last season I wanted us to buy Ronaldinho. I thought if you take him away from Barcelona and give him a fresh start he’d get his head back in the game. But he has had a chance to revive his career at Milan and he hasn’t really made much of that opportunity.
If we are talking midfielders Id like us to buy a player called Kacar. The guy is 6 foot, his relatives are boxing champions, he is very versatile and with Vidic, Berbatov, Tosic, Ljajic he’d add to our East European contingent.
July 5th, 2009 at 14:11
@colver: Yeah, I have been thinking about this whole Tevez complaints thing Colver! His statements that SAF believes he is coming back, and that as far as HE KNOWS, United have thrown him out of OT, I begin to feel that his dilemma is more due to what he is BEING FED by Joorabchian about what United are supposedly saying and doing, rather than anything else. There is no doubt that Tevez not been present at the meetings between United and his advisors, he has no truth of what really was being said. No doubt either that his slave owners are more concerned about their own financial gains, than they are about Tevez happiness, and of that I am 100% sure. Joorabchians party have more gain from a City move, but Tevez has more pain and loss. This is what happens I guess when you sell your soul to the Devil. Jooachian will not have told Tevez anything but what suits his purposes – shame! Joorabchian found United too tough a NUT TO CRACK, and so moved on to the more financially wastrel, but compliant City
.
Also Ranier (scouse GK) has BLASTED Tevez and Barry for choosing to go to City for nothing but £££££££ signs. He cried that they are disrespecting L’pool, and show no honour in running to money, instead of going to the great teams
. How does he feel about Mascherano demanding to go to Barcelona, and Alonso to Real M then??? I feel he is such a hypocrite, because he said when Ronaldo chose Madrid, that he was right to do so. No sympathy from me Reiner!
July 5th, 2009 at 15:28
@<a href=”#@Grognard: have u seen goal 3 mate?..Is it any better than first and second.
@<a href=”#@Grognard:
i am not a troubled person and who are the certain comedic trio which u were mentioning about,I would certainly like to know them.
July 5th, 2009 at 15:45
another manchester united rumoured away kit………
http://www.4thegame.in/features/feature/238209/200910_new_kits.html
July 5th, 2009 at 16:55
According to reports, only Jonathan Woodgate, Aaron Lennon and Jermain Defoe are not for sale at Spurs. Everyone else is fair game.
So lets go get Palacios.
July 5th, 2009 at 16:56
@Traverse: fuck palacios, i want luka modric!
July 5th, 2009 at 17:00
@Dan: I think we need Palacios much much more than we need Modric, who I like a lot.
Also, http://goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/05/1365384/manchester-united-ponder-bid-for-ashley-young
July 5th, 2009 at 17:00
I also want Luka Modric. A bit lightweight but very very creative and skillful.
July 5th, 2009 at 17:06
Its crazy to think we could have got Palacios AND Valencia for around £20 million in total last summer.
July 5th, 2009 at 17:07
@Traverse:
Young>Modric
July 5th, 2009 at 17:13
@Dan: Aw come on mate. Do you want to make me physically sick? YUK! I hate that overrated, over the hill, drug addicted, party addicted, Tevezian ugly MOFO. In his day he was awesome but those days have passed I’m afraid. A poster child for the abuse of excess that happens to many who take that path to Spain.
July 5th, 2009 at 17:16
@Craig Mc: I’m a complex and irritating SOB mate.
I was just a little annoyed because I want him to be silent and see what plays out. Don’t make noise until Fergie actually plays his hand. If he is still on the bench, then I actually want him to make noise. But until then, he should be patient and keep quiet. And I’m not double minded about Nani. I have much love for the Lil Man. He’s my……Thrilla thrilla ya.
July 5th, 2009 at 17:16
@Traverse: Give Young the number 7 shirt, for me he is the best winger in the land right now! He can take free-kicks, corners and his crosses are pure magic. And with Berba and Owen in the box, I can easily see him be the last piece of the Jigsaw up front!
July 5th, 2009 at 17:18
@Dan: Young > Park
July 5th, 2009 at 17:19
@vanderberg: No need to get angry mate. That was meant as a teasing joke and I included appropriate smiley’s to get my point and intent across. So if you took it the wrong way, then I apologize. Not my intention to piss you off. God knows I get a lot of it here myself. One has to grow a thick skin and have a sense of humor.
July 5th, 2009 at 17:24
@RedDevilEddy: I’d love us to get Young. Give him the 7 and watch him flourish. He’s skilful, he’s hungry and he’s Enlgish. I think he would work wonders for us down either wing. If we sign him, we have quite the group of wingers… Nani, Valencia, Young……. Rooney
July 5th, 2009 at 17:27
@Traverse: Modric is a nice little player but he seems to get muscled off the ball easily because of his lack of size. Lack of size is not a big deal if you are a wide player like Marin, but if you play in the middle, it is an issue. Palacios would be a good signing as would Pavlyuchenko.
July 5th, 2009 at 17:29
@Traverse: Young is the utlimate winger. Fast, skilful, brave and an amazing crosser! Plus, he is English and young. Which is perferrable. Its no secret that Im a huge, huge fan of Ashley Young, and he is my dream United signing. If we get him this summer I would be absolutely delighted, and giving him the number 7 shirt would be nice.
If we get Young, I wont realy care if we get amidfielder or not. Cause somehow I think Fergie doesnt think he needs any, he has massive faith in Gibson, Anderson and Fletcher, Scholes and Giggs are huge favorites and he is a huge fan of Carrick and Hargreaves. Thats 7 midfielders, and from those he has to choose 2. Isnt easy for him, and I realy doubt he will go for another… 
July 5th, 2009 at 17:37
@RedDevilEddy: By the end of the year that’ll be it’ll be only 4, cause Giggs and Scholes are done and I don’t think Gibson is going to make it. Only by a small margin, but I think he’d probably be really good for someone like Villa or Everton.
That leaves us with Anderson, Carrick, Hargreaves and Fletcher. While not bad at all and certainly good enough to win the prem with, I think Palacios gives us a bit of extra muscle that even a fit Hargeaves might not be able to bring. Palacios is a big mother!
July 5th, 2009 at 17:37
@Traverse: If its true palacios is for sale then he would be perfect, a very good player indeed. Would imo prefer us to go out and get a goal scoring central midfielder but if the story is true about us going for ashley young then maybe we could do without the goal scoring CM cos young would guarantee at least 10 goals. Not sure what that would do for nani though, im still a huge fan of his and i think this season if he was given a good run he would come on heaps this season and turn out to be a great player for us.
July 5th, 2009 at 18:08
@Traverse: I would really like Palacios. He tortured us this season, we had major trouble with him when we played Wigan in January and in May. I would defo want him at our club, but I cant see Fergie going for another midfielder until next summer. Scholes and Giggs will be out, and we will then know whether Hargo can make it with us again. Still, Ashley Young is a must right now!!!
July 5th, 2009 at 18:11
WOW
I have just seen Sir Alex Ferguson at wimbledon final.what a fantastic match between roddick and federer.the score is now federer leading 13-12 in the 5th set.
July 5th, 2009 at 18:11
When are the squad numbers released?
July 5th, 2009 at 18:21
@RedDevilEddy: I’d imagine when we’ve finished our business, before the trip to Asia so we can sell a bunch of shirts…
July 5th, 2009 at 18:50
Tennis! Bloody Hell!!!
July 5th, 2009 at 19:05
http://www.tribalfootball.com/tevez-utd-fans-will-forgive-me-man-city-switch-255011
He really thinks he has the fans in his back pocket doesnt he
July 5th, 2009 at 19:25
He is in for quite the shock come 19th of September!!
July 5th, 2009 at 19:39
@Grognard: Grog, how can he keep silent when 2 teams from Spain, and 2 teams from Italy are making noises to him through his agent. I think the lad should in these circumstances find out if he fits into Fergie’s plans at all, because last season he didn’t. Why should he miss his opportunities, if Fergie is just going to mess him about again. I think YOU ARE WRONG GROG. Nani has said nothing to the press, but to go into Fergie’s office and ask if he fits into SAF’s plans or not, is what he should be doing. That is what I would do if I was feeling unsure about my future. He has options, and I think Fergie should tell him, and not BULLSHIT him with fake promises!
July 5th, 2009 at 19:44
@Traverse: Fergie should have got Palacios when he had his chance, because you know Spurs, they will once again triple the price just to fuck us over! Why should we keep lining their pockets?
July 5th, 2009 at 20:46
@Dan: He is¨nt gonna fully realise how we feel until September 19th… Fucking cunt, he should expect to be surprised!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
July 5th, 2009 at 21:28
@RedDevilEddy: @Dan:
Nani > Young
July 5th, 2009 at 21:42
@NicoQB: Young > Messi
July 5th, 2009 at 21:43
@NicoQB: Honestly, Young+Rooney> Ronaldo+Ribery. Im serious…
July 5th, 2009 at 22:17
There is one thing I admire greatly with United, which I think will be a very important factor again this summer. Manchester United buy players, not names. And the players we buy, we are the ones who give them a name.
July 5th, 2009 at 22:31
Did you all hear that Barca was apparently considering a 30million Euro bid for none other than Diego Forlan?
Now the thing with Forlan is that I clearly remember people – and most UTd fans included – that he was not good enough for United.
For me that case is very similar to what we are now experiencing with Nani. Both players had occasional playing stints, but very rarely were granted a prolonged incusion in the starting eleven. And when they were, they produced the goods. If I’m not mistaken Forlan started playing really well, scoring and all, when Ruud came back from injury and Diego was subsequently benched.
The Nani case is strikingly similar as many people are rating his productivity based from his occasional outings.
Now Eddy is Young’s greatest fanboy here, but even Young had plenty of game time to show what he’s capable of, and I for one would bet on Nani to be able to produce what Young delivered given the same amount of minutes, and in a more entertaining manner too!
July 5th, 2009 at 22:44
@RedDevilEddy: I think Eric Cantona, Dimitar Berbatov Rio Ferdinand etc would beg to differ.
July 5th, 2009 at 22:50
@Red Ranter: I think rafael, yorke, OGS etc would beg to differ
I think eddy has a point, we do buy players and turn them into stars, but sometimes its players we knew would always be stars who ever they signed for, like rooney.
But i agree, we do sign the odd big name player every now and again.
July 5th, 2009 at 22:51
@NicoQB: “Now Eddy is Young’s greatest fanboy here…”
I have been for a while mate, I wanted us to sign him when he was at Watford. But because it was “Watford”, yuk, I knew that Fergie wouldnt go for him. But when O`Neill bought him I was happy to see a club of that status give him the kind of belief they did. He got great confidence from that, and as we all know confidence is vital for wingers. They are histe without it, and that is why Nani hasnt had such a great season. He didnt have the confidence the likes of Ronaldo, Giggs or Becks had when they stepped onto the scene. Now, even though Ashley Young is a player I admire highly and what I would call my dream United signing, I want Nani to become the player we all believe he can become. He is my most favorite player behind Andy, Wazza and Vida, and the way he played in the 2007/08 season and parts of last were amazing! If there is one player I want to to fullfil his potensial, well, besides from Andy, its Nani! Which is one reason why I am a little turned off by a Young transfer… 
Nani can become a world beater, he is an amazing talent which I feel can only become better. If he fails at United, its only because of missing confidence. Fucking hell, he has the ability and the quality, the only thing he needs is to feel that Fergie and the fans are behind him!
Even so, we do really need a new winger. If either Nani or Valencia gets injured, it means Park will have to play.
And even worse, if we dont buy a new winger Ji may be our second choice winger behind Valencia! 
Which is why I feel we still need a new winger, and Ashley Young would be the one I preffered…
July 5th, 2009 at 22:57
@Red Ranter: Cantona, Berbatov, Rio, Rooney, Cole and maybe even Ruud would beg to differ. But there arent that many players during Fergies 23 years that have come to Old Trafford with a huge name. Veron failed, so i dont count him. Those six are all I can think of, but then there are the likes of Ronaldo, Rafael, Carrick, Nani, Solskjær, Yorke, Kanchelskis, Schmeicel, Keano, Vidic and Evra. Who would have believed that we would buy Sheringham, Larsson and Owen?! Two of those made great things for our club, and Owen can prove a real gem. Now there is Valencia, who people may not think is sucha good player. But he may turn out to be a world beater! Who knows?
July 5th, 2009 at 23:03
I think we should give the number 7 to Valencia unless we buy a new player. e have to remember that even thought the number 7 shirt has belonged to some huge names within football, Becks, Ronaldo, Cantona and Best, some of those names werent even known before they were at United. Back then, Becks wasnt more rated that Gibson is right now! Ronaldo wasnt bigger than Valencia, practically the same. Cantona was probably the only guy that had a “big name” when he got the jersey. I know the number 7 shirt is now more than just a number, it is the sacred number in the squad. BUT, it also is a token for belief and potensial. Ronny, Becks and Kanchelskis? Yeah, so we should give a number to a young player that can turn out great, or a new signing which has a big future ahead of him. In Fergies eyes, that man may be Valencia, as he has gone for him for more than a year! So maybe, just maybe…
July 5th, 2009 at 23:13
@RedDevilEddy: Other candidates are:
Wayne Rooney
Danny Welbeck
Rafael
Macheda
Anderson
Nani
Hoping for Rooney to bes honest…
July 5th, 2009 at 23:15
@RedDevilEddy: You have to count Veron because
he was a big name, and because your assertion was we don’t buy big names. And even if we don’t, what is so unique about it? Apart from Real Madrid, who started this whole galacticos thing, and Chelsea, in recent history most of the big clubs succeeded in attracting the most promising young talents from South America and Europe. Squad development has always been the focus in most normal football clubs. Clubs like Barcelona, Milan have historically built clubs not by blindly buying the best talent that is there. So I don’t think we are unique in that respect. Like most successful clubs we look to find the best mix of stars and young promising talent. So to me your assertion that only United seem to do that (as if others don’t) doesn’t make sense to me.
July 5th, 2009 at 23:18
@RedDevilEddy: Since you put Anderson and Rafael in that list, you might as well put rest of the United squad names in it as candidates.
July 5th, 2009 at 23:20
@Dan: My point is we do both and maintain a good mix. And most successful clubs in the real world do that — apart from Real, Chelsea (and now Man City is attempting to do it). So it’s nothing unique of United. Eddy was making a blanket statement that “we don’t buy stars, we buy players”. Which is what I was disagreeing with.
July 5th, 2009 at 23:22
@Dan: I predict a rude awakening for that awfully cocky little bastard. Just come to Old Trafford you piece of crap. Even those who backed you would do so had you not bashed their God. SAF is a god to all of us. And even though many of us curse the God’s name in vain sometimes, we believe and we love him and respect him for everything he has done for this team in 25 years of service. And this Argentine piss ant shows up with his arrogance and limited IQ and thinks we will turn on our own for his sake? He can fuck off straight to Hell. And i expect everyone in Old Trafford to let him have it and kick his ass if he embarrasses Fergie like he has threatened. Where the hell is Roy Keane when we need him?
July 5th, 2009 at 23:26
@Craig Mc: As usual your intense Nani love is blinding you from what I was really saying. You are overreacting a bit mate. I just don’t want Nani sabotaging his chance to play a lot by opening his mouth and demanding an audience with the Gaffer to discuss his concerns. If he wants that, do it in private and don’t do it through the media. I am worried that his frustration may blow up in his face mate. I love the Lil Man and I do not want him to piss Fergie off and then force Fergie to sell him. He needs to be quiet, and wait it out and see how Fergie decides his role for this season. Now does that sound like anti Nani sentiment mate? I fully expect more playing time for him this season and I am hoping he incorporates a moonwalk in his goal celebrations.
July 5th, 2009 at 23:27
@Craig Mc: There is bad blood with Spurs and i think getting anyone from them in the near future is a forlorn hope.
July 5th, 2009 at 23:28
@Red Ranter: What I meant that we, unlike other succesful clubs, continue with our philosophy. Arsenal still play young lads that they get from the academy and such, but I wont call them succesful. Liverpool didnt post a serious challenge to us until they bought Torres, Macherano and Keane. Chelsea were the worst, but they have calmed lately. Because of what Real have done this summer, I feel incredibly proud of what United do. Owen may have been a big name, but he was a signing out of the blue! A has been, nobody really expected that. Valencia too, and we used players such as Welbeck, Gibson, Rafael, Evans and Macheda many times last season, very important players to our title win. So what I meant by my statement is that Im proud that United didnt panic to buy a “big name” to replace Ronaldo, but instead a player like Valencia, with no higher status than Ronny had in 2003. Anderson and Nani werent particulary “big names”, even though they cost a lot, and they are poised to be replacements for two of the biggest names in Manchester United history, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes. Not Ribery, not Aguero, not Ronaldinho or such, but players like Costa, Sanchez and Valencia. Which makes me even prouder to be a United fan, and makes me wonder how ashamed the Real fans must feel…
July 5th, 2009 at 23:29
@RedDevilEddy: Like i said yesterday, I fully expect the cunt to be at the end of the bench by then and possibly not even used at all in the game. Tevez is an ordinary player with shite for brains. It won’t take long for Sparky to realize he has a lemon on his hands.
July 5th, 2009 at 23:30
@RedDevilEddy: Good point. But I want us to buy some names too because we have 80 million to spend and they need to appease us fans with a big name to cover for the loss of the hugest name in the game.
July 5th, 2009 at 23:33
@NicoQB: It’s the old saying different horses for different courses. It wasn’t that Forlan wasn’t good enough for us, he was just the wrong fit. Different style suited to a more continental style. He actually would be a great fit for us today as we play a style that is more conducive to his now. Ironic actually.
July 5th, 2009 at 23:35
@Red Ranter: Wouldn’t you throw JS Park and Anderson in that group too RR?
Or do names of infamy not count?
July 5th, 2009 at 23:38
@RedDevilEddy: As long as we don’t have a sure fire guaranteed recipient of the #7 jersey, we know that we are a superstar too short on our team. Someone great and dynamic has to be bought to fill that jersey because we presently have nobody who suitably deserves to wear it. Rooney is a forward and he deserves the #10. #7 is more ideal for a midfielder, AMF or winger. Yes Cantona wore it but Cantona was more like AMF than a conventional forward. He wasn’t about goals as much as he was about setting them up.
July 5th, 2009 at 23:39
@Red Ranter: Lets look at our squad!
GK: VDS, Foster, PIG
RB: Rafael, Brown, Neville, Oshea
CB: Rio, Evans, Vidic
LB: Evra, Fabio
RM: Valencia, Park
CM: Carrick, Anderson, Scholes, Giggs, Gibson, Hargreaves, Fletcher
LM: Nani
ST: Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Welbeck, Kiko
In that squad, I will say only 3 were “big name” signings. Rooney, Berba and Rio. If we look at Chelsea, we will find many more big name signings. I dunno if you can call Arsenal or Liverpool a succesful squad, so dont count them.
Barca I respect, because many of their players are made by the club, not bought. Real Madrid fans should feel ashamed, as they only have Casillias and Raul tos how for it. Marcelo, Pepe and Diarra are probably the only names in that squad that arent bought as a big name. So when you compare our squad, and our transfer targets, to other teams such as Chelsea and Real Madrid, I feel proud we stand by our philosophy. 
July 5th, 2009 at 23:39
@RedDevilEddy: How about Sergio Aguero?
July 5th, 2009 at 23:40
@Red Ranter: I would gladly put Anderson on the “transfer” list.
July 5th, 2009 at 23:42
The big problem I have with Fergie, is that yes he brings players in, and says “yes, they are for the future.” Then he gets all attached to the one or two and foams over them, and they get every advantage, like Rooney and Ronaldo particularly. The others have to take a backseat, and this is why Anderson, Nani etc have regressed rather than progressed. We forget that these players are really just young lads, who in blind faith have stepped away from their homelands, families, cultures and everything they have known, to come to fulfil dreams at United. Yet they are not all on an equal footing, some have their confidence stroked continually by Fergie, while others barely get a glance. Not everybody has great or even good things to say about our Manager. Pique felt rejected by SAF, and in truth I suspect Rossi did too. That’s just a couple of youngsters. We all know SAF has his favourites and its no use denying it! ALL young players should be encouraged and have their confidence built up, but I know with SAF their is a flaw in his attitudes here!
July 5th, 2009 at 23:42
@Grognard: Ronaldo was not a superstar when he arrived. Becks wasnt a superstar back then either. But they became some of the biggest names in United folklore, something I feel Fergie will continue with. Rooney might not be the ideal guy, but if we really are to show that shirt the force it deserves(heart of United), then Wazza should get it as he is gonna be the main man from now on. But if we opt for youth/potensial, maybe Nani, Valencia, Anderson or Welbeck?
July 5th, 2009 at 23:58
@Grognard: Your just not getting it Grog. As I said in my post, Nani has spoken to the press, and their were no direct quotes from him in the article or otherwise. Several clubs would like him, and the article writers sources in OT (NOT NANI), have said that he will be discussing with SAF soon where he fits into his plans. Whenever Nani has talked to the press he has ALWAYS said positive and not negative things about the club. But I personally think he does need to know where he stands, and I know for a fact, that Fergie doesn’t mind any player going to him and chatting to him about their futures. I dont believe they should have to do that, Fergie should let them know where they stand, and how he feels about them, because young lads do feel unnerved and insecure, especially if they don’t understand, or are never told WHY they are left out, when others are never left out. I see we are NEVER going to see eye to eye on this Grog, so I will leave the discussion there
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July 5th, 2009 at 23:59
Grog, sorry I meant Nani HAS NOT spoken to the press in that article!
July 5th, 2009 at 23:59
@RedDevilEddy: All I am saying is we aren’t the only side to practice this philosophy. The great AC Milan teams Barca etc also have done it. And I think Arsenal have had success in the past and so have a lot of other teams. I see what you are saying, and our spending stats based on the last decade seem to indicate that Pool have in fact spent more than us too. But my point is we aren’t alone in it, although now that you’ve added that not many have been as successful as us, it makes more sense than your initial assertion.
July 6th, 2009 at 0:09
Is Rooney a clumsy GIT or not? According to the docs who treated him after horseplay on his hired yacht led to him faliing hard on the deck, he almost sliced his ear off, and had to have 45 stitches apparently. They said his ear was so bad, and bleeding so profusely, that it was almost impossible to repair, so cosmetic surgeons had to be called in. Now they say the ear should be like normal again in time
. If anyone is more injury prone than Rooney in our squad, I’d like to know who!
July 6th, 2009 at 0:25
@Craig Mc: Michael Owen Hargreaves?
July 6th, 2009 at 0:30
@Traverse: Yeah Bro, but Michael Owen Hargreaves were injured whilst ON the field, and not away from it. Think back not so long ago when Rooney was out because he was messing about in training, and fell over a practice small net goalpost. You see what I mean
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July 6th, 2009 at 0:43
@Craig Mc: My god, could he possibly get any uglier.
Mind you, having his ears sewn back might actually help!!
July 6th, 2009 at 0:45
@Craig Mc: Wasn’t there a goalkeeper who did his metatarsal by dropping a jar of mayonnaise on his foot?
July 6th, 2009 at 1:05
@Traverse:
This takes the cake though.
July 6th, 2009 at 1:15
@Redrich:
awwww shame eh 
. It’s looney Rooney!
July 6th, 2009 at 1:16
@Red Ranter: Get a load of this one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIKdK-T-jZM
July 6th, 2009 at 1:21
@Redrich: Good grief, I bet they sued whoever put up those hoarding eh? – NASTY!
July 6th, 2009 at 1:23
@Traverse: I hadn’t heard that one Traverse
. I guess EVERY club must have them then, and our is Rooney 
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July 6th, 2009 at 1:30
@Red Ranter: Jari Litmanen once injured his eye on international duty when another player opened a can of coke, and the ringpull flicked off and hit him!
July 6th, 2009 at 1:31
@Craig Mc: David James did a back muscle reaching for a TV remote once
July 6th, 2009 at 1:34
@Traverse:
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July 6th, 2009 at 2:14
Pfff!!
Don’t know what to think…
http://manchesterunitednews.net/blog/?p=1321
July 6th, 2009 at 2:20
Leroy lita i think it was, was out for a weeks apparently for stretching when getting out of bed and pulling a muscle or something.
Also some guy at stoke, erm liam lawrence or someone i think got injured just last season when his dog tripped him up and he ended up out for a few months lol so he must have been injured pretty bad lol.
Anyway night people.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:53
@NicoQB: I have to admit that I half expect to see Berbatov light up and wander off for a 5 minute break!
Especially in the 2nd half!!
July 6th, 2009 at 4:31
@Craig Mc: I honestly don’t know what you are going on about Bro? I am not against Nani in any way. I just think he needs to tread very carefully when dealing with Fergie. If he ever complains to the media, that will be the end of him. If he just demands a meeting with the Boss to discuss his future, the Boss may take that as confrontational, I honestly don’t know. All I am saying is I think he should not say anything and wait out the manager to see where he stands. Confronting him may not work out well. Especially if there is an interpretor in the room. Nani needs to keep quiet and make his noise on the pitch by showing the Boss his quality.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:32
@Craig Mc: It’s just the press cooking up trouble. All the more reason why Nani needs to stay quiet in order to show the boss he isn’t asking for a showdown.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:34
@Craig Mc: How about Ben Foster?
July 6th, 2009 at 4:40
@NicoQB: Who cares? If he wants to fuck up his lungs and lose his life sooner than normal, it’s his prerogative. Up until about 20 years ago when athletes started taking better care of their bodies by involving themselves in healthy alternatives like steroids and orgies, smoking and drinking was considered a regular pastime and millions of athletes around the world smoked and played. I’m not saying it’s a good thing to do, but I am saying that it is his business and United do not own his body in that way. It will shorten his career no doubt, but it does not have to ruin it. Someone should talk to him and tell him that the club would prefer he stopped and leave it at that.
July 6th, 2009 at 4:56
@Dan: I’ve been begging for us to sign Veloso. His recent fall out has sporting willing to part with him for 12 million. If Queiroz were still here, he’d have already been in.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:14
@Grognard: Grog, how you cannot respect Henry’s talent is beyond me. Owen is barely half the player Henry was and is.
July 6th, 2009 at 7:46
nani shall get the next number 7…
July 6th, 2009 at 7:51
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1197714/Wayne-keeps-injured-ear-firmly-cover-Coleen-return-home-France.html
July 6th, 2009 at 7:52
@Merlinus: no way the no 7 player has not yet arrived at old trafford.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:09
No7 shirt will go to ljajic. nuff said.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:51
@Grognard: Remember Grog in one of the previous post i said that the Ronaldo should show some class and he will be regarded as a good person of the pitch as well. That’s exactly what lad did. I liked it a grudges now that i had previously and for which i had fights with you….
All the best for his career. I hope he does not fall of at RM like many have previously in recent history..
July 6th, 2009 at 8:53
There is no other candidate for No.7 other than Berbatov.
I think Owen will get no. 9 (earmarked for Benzema).
To me, the ONLY signing United must still make is that of no.2 – CQ.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:02
http://www.redcafe.net/f9/gabriel-obertan-256894/
Cocks out…
July 6th, 2009 at 9:20
@Grognard: I agree wholly. It was a good sale and great business. I want to know who will Real release? Do they truly plan to keep all that whole roster?
Ronaldo says something about Ref. protection and the amount of fire power being poured into the Spanish League will raise the profile. DUMB FUCKS. As Fergie has proven time and time again, you can’t just buy class and prestige. Its earned!
@Karl: Yeah, I think CQ was instrumental in keeping the foreigners at bay in England I wonder is how these Latinos expect to play in all these games. And how do these idiots hope to all fit in Madrid? Its a true wonder what happens in Real. Are they not going to cut some labor costs?
I don’t watch the Spanish League, is it really all that entertaining? Its harder to get stats and info, and its in Spanish so I have to learn to speak it to truly enjoy. I just wait for these assholes to come show what they got in the UCL. But the 100 goals between three players at Barca last season was phenomenal. Maybe I should start taking peaks?
July 6th, 2009 at 9:27
@Abu: I watched a few games last season and did not find it entertaining at all. I found it very slow and to be hones, quite boring. And, these include Real and Barca games. Some of the Barca games were ok, some not.
But, I think I might be in a minority here.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:28
@Abu: CQ has walked out on us twice and he should vever darken our door again, I have said this before if he comes back he will want assurances that he will be the next manager, and he simply isn’t up to the job as he has shown in every job he has taken.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:34
I think Ronaldo (as great a player as what he is) is a prat. He is however, a very intelligent prat. I however do not fall for some more of his bullshit. He left. End of. I admire his skills, but have absolutely no respect for him as a person. He had none for me as a supporter when he fucked up my celebrations, nor when he lied to us about being happy at OT and deciding to stay here. (Remember those ‘lying’ statements Craig mc?). Yet, he already trademarked CR9, and signed a pre-contract???
I am not one of those idiots that will fall again for every word coming out of his mouth. He’s just saying what we want to hear. Doesn’t mean he’s truthful about it.
And yet we hate Carlito for lying?
Fuck Carlito, Fuck Ronaldo!
July 6th, 2009 at 9:36
@Craig Mc: Didnt Darren Bent break his arm or something when making a sandwich?
July 6th, 2009 at 9:39
@Karl: That is spot on mate I couldn’t agree more.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:46
@Red Ranter: Those teams you put up, like AC Milan, used to do it like us. But these days, when we see teams like Inter, Real and Chelski splash the cash, we invest in youngsters. AC Milan still incest in youth, but not to the effect they did previously. Plus, they lost out on a CL spot two seasons ago, and had difficulties reaching second this season. While we, Manchester United dont panic like Real. When we went 3 years without winning any trophies, we only bought an underrated Carrick and PIG. The year before it was Park and Edwin. While Chelski bought players like Sheva, Essien, Carvalho, Cech and Drogba, we invested in Ronaldo and Rooney who stepped onto the scene, and made players like Carrick and Scholes our engima in midfield. Even though Chelsea imporved their squad even more the next summer, we bought Nani and Anderson, two very important members of our title win. Tevez and Hargreaves too, which may be two guys you can call big names. And even when we lost two of the biggest names in world football, Ronaldo and Tevez, we replace them with Valencia and Owen. One bright talent which I think is hugely underrated, and an overthehill striker. Fergie=God.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:48
La Liga is pretty entertaining mate.. The level of play is good.. much more beautiful.. teams donot park the bus and the outcome of any game is unpredictable.. anyone can beat anyone.. thats it..
July 6th, 2009 at 9:50
That being said, the timings of la liga is bad for t.v viewers across the world.. and Marketing of epl is better..
July 6th, 2009 at 9:51
its peanutbutterjelly time, peanutbutterjelly time, wheya, wheya, wheya, wheya, ya deyugo, deyugo, deyugo, deyugo, its peanutbutterjelly time, peanutbutterjelly time, peanutbutterjelly time, peanutbutterjelly time, deyugo, deyugo, wheya, wheya….
Its raining today…
July 6th, 2009 at 10:53
We’re back in training today… expect to see pictures from skysports of Valencia and Owen with the rest of the gang at some point.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:56
I have always felt for tevez and the way he was treated but his reaction shows lack of character.I think we are better off ignoring the fucker and move on.
I think Fergie is doing the smartest business in the transfer market than our rivals.If that Obertan kid comes in,its as if we have lost nothing considering we have Owen and Valencia but my only worry is Parks involvement next season.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:21
Who the fuck is Gabriel Obertan?
July 6th, 2009 at 11:25
@Rand: a spectacular young French footballer mate. Another diamond in the rough; a project ala Ronaldo of 2003.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:28
@RichmondRed: Is he a winger?
July 6th, 2009 at 11:32
@Stephen: Yes, a crafty and pacy winger; works either flank, not the best crosser of the ball, great footwork, tricky and beats defenders with pace and tricks and likes to bring the ball into the box himself from the wings rather than cross it at times, good with both feet, but does not make all the best decisions…typical 17 year-old footballer. Like I said, a Ronaldo 2003 project…
July 6th, 2009 at 11:33
@Stephen: Winger, attacking midfielder and second striker. Sounds like a gem, kinda like Andy was described when he came…
July 6th, 2009 at 11:36
Donibrasco, Park is one of the best squad players we have. If you play against a team which is very strong on the flanks Park can neutralise them. The only problem last year was we were using him too much in games where his defensive attributes were not required and his attacking impotency became a problem.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:37
@RichmondRed: Sorry, meant to say 20 year-old, not quite sure where 17 came from
July 6th, 2009 at 11:37
@RichmondRed: This guy is pretty good! Very reminiscent of Ronaldo ‘03, although I think he’s more of a direct player than the kind that showboats really excessively.
If Fergie does snap him up, I’m confident to say that he will get the 7, and that this lad will be a very very very bright star in the (near) future.
Anybody know about the transfer fee involved?
July 6th, 2009 at 11:41
@RedDevilEddy: @RichmondRed: Cheers boys, any idea on a fee?
July 6th, 2009 at 11:41
@Jon: He plays for Lauren Blanc at the moment, so we are slightly less likely to get ripped off
July 6th, 2009 at 11:48
I’ve read good things about Obertan as well. Plays on the right wing, can also play midfield or as a striker, and is a very good dribbler and is regarded as one of the hottest prospects in France. However the guy has scored very few goals. So I still think we need a goalscoring midfielder.
My only question is that where does that leave Valencia who also plays on the right? Is Fergie’s plan to convert Valencia into a central midfielder? Surely if anything we need a left winger because Fergie doesn’t seem to rate Nani and we only have Tosic as cover.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:49
@Stephen: Link
July 6th, 2009 at 11:49
@Stephen: I have not seen any fee as of yet. I just found this story from Sky however in regards to the boy:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5416628,00.html
July 6th, 2009 at 11:54
Something is a bit different at United at the moment…the club has been buying an awful lot of young international starlet’s from around the world…if some of these guys turn out to be stars we will have one hell of a team, albeit in the future, or we can just look back and say we hand one hell of a reserve team at a time
July 6th, 2009 at 11:57
@RedDevilEddy: Thanks Edward, lucky I have my own office at work!!
@RichmondRed: Thanks mate, I hope he is more Ronaldo than Bellion!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:00
@Stephen:
July 6th, 2009 at 12:01
@Stephen: Ha! Funny thing is…when I first say this guy play that was the first thought I had, “wow, great, pacy, young footballer, but he reminds me an awful lot like David Bellion!”
July 6th, 2009 at 12:03
@Stephen: Its raining today, so Im quite bored…
July 6th, 2009 at 12:06
@RedDevilEddy:
@RichmondRed: Don’t say that mate he was awful, and we paid his mobile phone bill for about a year before we signed the buffoon!
July 6th, 2009 at 12:18
@Dan: You post at the caf mate? what’s your name there? I’m still in the newbs with a neg rep.
I’m hoping to see you up in the mains soon.
About obertan, No. Hell No. And no way in hell. I’d rather have Douglas (LWM-AMF) He’s what we need.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:21
Obertan looks really scrawny, might have to do a ton of gym work like Tosic.
Is it just me or is everyone secretly hoping we could just splash the cash instead of buying this little prospects Wenger-style? I’m really afraid we get the big names too late and they turn out like Berbatov, lacking the settling-in pre-season period. Come on Fergie, the fans need something to wank about.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:28
New post up. Time to head over there.