Jul 04
Carlos Tevez continues to spout venom
It seems some people find it hard to move on. We all acknowledge that sometimes, in a relationship, both parties might have been at fault and, like adults, we say what we have to say, and move on.
The relationship between clubs and players, players and managers and players and fans is not that different in essence. [Of course, if a player spites his fans, then the gloves are usually off, and we see even mild-mannered, cultured adults turn juvenile -- but I digress.]
Carlos Tevez, falls in the second category. And, by recent evidence, has shown little signs of growing up.
According to today’s report in the MirrorTevez accuses Fergie of lying to him about his squad status after signing Berbatov.
“Ferguson still believes I will be at United next season. He thinks I will return. But I know what I want and I know that Ferguson did not respect me as a player. Before Berbatov arrived in Manchester, Ferguson told me, ‘You will still be the starting striker, so be cool’. But he lied to me! That is why I know I will not return to United.
For one, football has become a squad game. Much of United’s success over the course of the past three years has been built around having good squad depth and players understanding that rotation is a part of life at United. Rotating players kept us in the hunt for a good part of the season. And for a manager, the toughest job is to ensure a reasonable mix of players for the right game. Tevez’s appearances over the course of the season is proof that he has got more playing time than some others in the side. He was mis-treated by the club management, of that there is little doubt. The United management weren’t forthright enough to work out his contract details, and we all know that. But today he still feels he has to whine some more to the press:
“What I want to do next season is score against United. I promise I will not celebrate in front of the United fans but I will shout in Ferguson’s face. You can be sure of that – and it will be one of the most beautiful things I have done in football.”
Well, Charlie. We wish you good luck on that. And you don’t have to bother trying to show respect to us fans. We aren’t really on your side anymore. And, just so you don’t wear a bewildered look when you visit OT, expect some booing from the stands.
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Update: Also, in case you haven’t heard, Wayne Rooney had a minor accident when he bumped his head. Doctors thought he may have had a concussion. But it was reported to be nothing serious. Today Rooney updated his twitter status, and like we jobless folks track stuff like this, here’s what he says on his head and Owen:
Thanks for all the messages my heads fine it wont stop me starting preseason il be there on Monday looking forward to meeting up with Michael Gosh that was a shock but hes a proven goal scorer but maybe just not been at the right club thats no offence to Newcastle. The Gaffer knows what hes doing always has I think this could be a Great season again for Utd Cant wait , Hols nearly finished! Bye 4 now.
So with those golden words from the Roon, we can sleep today in peace.
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@Grognard: Well mate one does what one can Bro!
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Do we all think that is it for the summer then boys? I have a bad feeling it is.
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Grognard you serious how could you not rate evra he is in my eyes the best LB in world football. yes he is not great crossing but he offers that burst of pace down the left that o shea can never provide.
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@steve: I like Evra mate but won’t say he is the best in the World, he had a very poor second half of the season unlike a certain rent boy.
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@steve: He’s been poor last season. Certainly not the best left back last season. Also you might want to use punctuation to separate sentences. No offence, but it’s pretty hard to read your posts because there is no break in thought.
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@Zauberlehrling: brilliant A+
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@steve: There’s something wrong with your eyes then mate
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@Zauberlehrling: Well said, brilliant. I feel Owen will do wonders for this team, the desire and passion he showed and for him describing this move as a “miracle”. Im really looking forward to seeing him play, as well as Valencia. We have switched two selfish, egosucking players and replaced them with one player who sees this move as a miracle and a shy, equadorian winger who has been dreaming of this move ever since a child. Its gonna be an awsome season, I feel!
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@NicoQB:
Maybe, but as long as he loves United Im happy. 
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What can we all do to make sure SAF deals with strengthening our MF? Any suggestions?
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Michael Owen for the PFA player of the year, Ballon DoR and Golden Boot winner 2010!!!
In the words of the Special Puppet, “Why Not?” Well, if he stays injury free that is…
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@Craig Mc: Lets kidnap Andy, Hargo and Nani!
If Grog joins, we are gonna do it! Then he will need another midfielder… 
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@Craig Mc: threaten him at gunpoint…
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Those are not good suggestions guys
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@Craig Mc: Alrighty then…
Maybe start a poll, or we could all send letters to Fergie where we demand a new midfielder. If the lads from ROM could join in, then I bet we would have had more than 200-300 lads… Does Fergie have a Facebook or Twitter?
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RedDevilEddys predictions for 2009/10 season.
Premier League
Winners: Manchester United
Runners up: Chelsea
Relegated: Wolves, Hull, Portsmouth
Top acorers: Rooney, Torres and Arshavin
Top assists: Nani, Young and Gerrard
Player of the season: Wayne Rooney
Young player of the season: Rafael da Silva
Champions League
Winner: Barcelona
Runner up: Liverpool
Top scorer: Leo Messi
Top assists: Xavi
Player of the season: Iniesta
This is me trying to be realistic, not biased. I dont think our CURRENT squad has the capabilities to win the Champions League, but I feel the Premier League very possible. We have a good enough squad to win that one, but when coming up agaisnt teams like Barca or Real, we will need a midfield enforcer. So unless Anderson or Hargreaves can step up to the plate and become great midfielders for our team, or we dont buy a player like De Rossi/Essien/Toure, it will be difficult competiong with the top dogs in European football. Still, I feel Liverpool will do well there if they can keep hold of their players, but it will cost them the League. Still, Barca are waaaay to strong at the moment to be beaten buy the likes of Liverpool or ourselves.
Still, this prediction is based on the current squads of the teams in Europe. Real will fail because of a terrible defense, Chelsea are getting too old and Inter just suck…
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@RedDevilEddy: Any United fans who backs the scousers to get to the CL final before Man Utd, well…………. SHAME ON YOU BRO!
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@Craig Mc: Just want the Liverpool fans and players to feel horrible and busted like we ded after the Barca loss…
If it was up to me Liverpool would go out in the group stages, as far away from the final as possible. 
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redrant sorry I agree I take no breaks haha on my sentances LOL, I will correct it. my worry is the guardian seem to like what we are doing damn. when the guardian give united bad press we usually win the league.
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@Craig Mc: what do you think of Michael Owen signing mate, after a few days of mulling this move over in my head I must admit Im starting to warm to it. He has been very unlucky with injuries but his strike rate has remained very good.
And if my memory serves me right you were one of the loudest to shout about our wastefulness in front of goal last year, a fit Owen would have had a field day at OT last season and offers something that we dont have, and having watched his interviews since signing it seems that he is genuinely delighted to be joining United.
It could be SAFs most shrewdest signing ever, if he can stay fit and healthy and gets plenty of playing then theres no doubt he will score goals for us and having missed out on our primary targets I think its a wise move not to be panicked into paying 15 to 20 million for an average joe who we dont really want, Graeme Souness is already predicting the possibilty of Owen finishing as top scorer, a bit premature maybe but he brings that potential.
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Craig Mc: what do you think of Michael Owen signing mate, after a few days of mulling this move over in my head I must admit Im starting to warm to it. He has been very unlucky with injuries but his strike rate has remained very good.
And if my memory serves me right you were one of the loudest to shout about our wastefulness in front of goal last year, a fit Owen would have had a field day at OT last season and offers something that we dont have, and having watched his interviews since signing it seems that he is genuinely delighted to be joining United.
It could be SAFs most shrewdest signing ever, if he can stay fit and healthy and gets plenty of playing then theres no doubt he will score goals for us and having missed out on our primary targets I think its a wise move not to be panicked into paying 15 to 20 million for an average joe who we dont really want, Graeme Souness is already predicting the possibilty of Owen finishing as top scorer, a bit premature maybe but he brings that potential.
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A berbatov-owen partner ship would be, dare i say it, orgasmic *drools*
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@Fred The Red: I was one of the loudest dissenters when I first heard United were talking with Owen. I wasn’t concerned he was an ex L’pool player so much, but it was indeed the injury thing, and after Saha, I wasn’t thrilled on getting another injury risk in again. I thought Owens best days were behind him, and that we were out of our minds to consider getting him. Since his interviews though, I am impressed with his desire to come good again, to recapture the years the locust has eaten, and to do his every upmost to repay the faith SAF was entrusting in him. I think SAF knows exactly what to expect from Owen, and I believe it is just to score goals, and that is the only contribution that SAF wants of him. Owen has confidence in himself, and in the interviews he says the way to silence the doubters and knockers, is on the field, and he is glad he has that opportunity with United. So time will tell Fred. I really hope the lad does come good though, and we help him to get to the World Cup next year.
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@Dan: if we can get Owen fit and healthy mate then there a big chance he would be a great asset mate, if it doesnt work out then we have lost nothing, but if it does then we have gained a top level goal getter who could give us something we have been missing for a long time, a fox in the box, Im pretty upbeat about this move.
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Fred the Red, what would you think about getting Ruud back as well for a couple of years, his last couple of years? Last time he was here, he wouldn’t agree to a bit part, but who knows now, and he is another good goalscorer. Now everyone on here will think I am NUTS. But players’goalscorers like these on 2 year contracts, will help us while the youngsters come more of age??? Is that crazy???
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/07/04/glenn-hoddle-michael-owen-will-be-better-than-carlos-tevez-upfront-for-manchester-united-115875-21494890/
For once, i agree with the disabled hater!
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@Craig Mc: Hes been pretty unfortunate with injuries mate, the broken ankle and the metatarsal injuries coud have happened to any one and the knee injury was by all accounts thoroughly checked during the medical, his main problem has been not getting a clear 5 to 6 month injury free run to build his fitness and body back up.
I remember Roy Keane being sidelined for a few months about 6 years ago and when he returned people were saying that he was not the same player and that the injury had taken part of his game away, but the reality is that when a player returns from a long term injury it takes a good 3 or 4 months of game time to get properly fit, and Keane went on to play some great stuff for us. Training only gets you 70 to 80 percent fit mate, playing matches gets you the rest and this is something that Owen has been denied, if he gets a good pre season under his belt and stays injury free for the next 2 or 3 months then it could be like signing a 20 to 30 million pound player, worth the effort if you ask me.
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@Craig Mc: I wouldn’t have been against Ruud coming back mate, but not now we have signed Owen, it would have been one or the other, both at the same time is too big of a gamble mate.
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Craig na van nistlerooy much too slow. we have already have berbatov who is slow and signed one player past his prime we do not need another, not to mention vds g neville giggs scholes coming to the end of their careers. we will end up like milan a place for players past their sell by date.
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1. Eto’o doesn’t want to move to Manchester City, a middle table team. Eto’o says that he will drop his astronomical wage and signing on money, if Man United come in for him. If he leaves Barca, he would like a big club like United – hmmmmmmm!
2. Michael Owen has apparently been trying to return to Anfield for last 3 years +, and would have signed for them for 25,000 a week if they would have had him. His reps were talking to L’pool even as he was at OT so NOTW report, but Rafa unlike SAF didn’t want to take a chance. They go on to say that once Owen sat down with Fergie, he was convinced and wanted to sign for United there and then. I don’t think he ever thought he had ANY CHANCE of United coming in for him, and he was trying his best to return to Pool, as he wanted CL football.
3. Nani is extremely worried and insecure about his future at OT. He is going to seek SAF out during pre season and find out where he stands. Athletico and Villareal have enquired about him, and 2 clubs in Italy, and he needs to make decisions about his future .
I told you he had offers from Spain, and would probably go. So SAF get your finger out eh? SAF thinks he will come good, but Nani wants reassurances!
NOTW eh – believe them or not?
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two more for the future!
http://goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/04/1363368/manchester-united-set-to-complete-deal-for-charlton-athletic
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11854_5414560,00.html
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@steve: Burst of pace down the line means nothing if the end product is crap. And if you think he is the best LB in the world, I suggest you start watching more football and more teams play. He’s rubbish.
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@RedDevilEddy: Bottom line is he said and did all the right thing when he was unveiled. Now he has to show us on the pitch.
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@Craig Mc: The one prediction I will make is that in 2009/10, Liverpool will win sweet fuck all.
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When a caller asked about Luis Fabiano to Vickery, he said that he’s had a torrid time playing for Rennes in Northern France in the past, and he’s been on record saying he wants nothing to do with Northern Europe. He apparently hated everything about that place, and it seems Rennes is a pretty miserable place to live in according to Andy Brassell (the European correspondent in World Football Phone-in).
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I have a question, where was fergie when we signed owen? he was not in any of the picture that were taken.
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fergie needs to get on twitter so we can know every move he makes, he might be traveling to sign someone I HOPE!.
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grognard patrice evra rubbish haha. he has been part of the best united defence in the game and uniteds ever had, ok he had a bad second half to the season that means he is all of a sudden average. grognard no offence but you were the same guy that thought selling rooney was a good idea, when in fact rooney was uniteds future who showed last season he is no doubt the best forward and the most important forward at the club.
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ROOOOONEY LOL did you see fergie in any pictures when united signed nani anderson and hargreaves nope who else could have said get owen of course ferguson he was the one who wanted owen, no one will even dare challenge fegies power it is an unthinkable thing to do. its like challenging king henry the 8th back in his time, its a line you do not cross when you have its off with your head its that simple. same with brian clough
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steve its not that i am saying its forced signing, its that i hope the reason for him not being is that he is trying to sign someone else. and he was with nani and hargreaves when they signed up http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/fergienaniharDM_468x300.jpg
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ROOOOONEY wasnt fergie seeing ronaldo before he is gone that fair well dinner maybe thats the reason. I ment when anderson and nani were first seen signed fergie was not there.
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@Craig Mc: Two weeks ago Nani was giving us all reassurances about his commitment to make good and be the next Ronaldo. Now he sounds like a pouting wuss whose ego is fragile and who feels he is being ignored. Look for him to be dealt within the next few weeks if this holds up.
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@steve: you support my point which i was saying to grognard and every body told that I was wrong.Evra is far better than o’shea but no body thinks so.
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@steve: What part of the word rubbish do you not understand? He takes very little credit for the team’s great defensive record. Part of Vidic’s greatness is his ability to cover for the Skinned Sausage and get him off the hook. How many people have to echo my views before you realize that I am not alone in this view? Evra is a pile of French rubbish.
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@vanderberg: Perhaps the two of you should get together and form the “Patrice Evra Lonely Hearts Club Band?”
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@Grognard: grog,sorry for the racist remark.I understand your point but i am not saying he is the best LB in the world as steve said. But I am saying that he has far more technical ability than o’shea does and ok o’shea has performed better this season.but when u compare both of them for their consistency and performances at OT I am saying that I would rate evra better than o’shea any day.
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@Grognard: In all fairness, he was shit in the second half of the season. Before that I thought he was good to excellent!!
I don’t know what happened to him, but he never did regain form after his suspension & injury.
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@Grognard: no the three of us. me,steve and redrich(i think) support evra
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@Craig Mc: Eto’o would be a good signing. Large, prolific target man that Rooney and Berbatov can play off of. Deadly at close range and still pacy.
Nice to hear we were Owen’s second option after, even, Anfield wouldn’t pay the minimum. I’m just seething about this signing, and how it makes us look in the eyes of RM, Barca, Chelski, and the Filth.
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