RR, I have only given back what I received and I felt highly compelled to do so. I will never respond to this clown ever again so I will kindly appreciate you letting me get the opportunity to reply to his insults. as I don’t plan on continuing this, I would appreciate you letting me vent my venom this once.

1) Stop calling yourself a blogger. You are not blogging.

2) I don’t have anger problems but people like you piss me off as you want to start unwarranted hate campaigns and will spew as much shit as you can till you achieve that. You are no better than the idiots who tried to ruin beckhams life after he was sent off in the world cup or who tried to drive Ronaldo out of the country for actions he didn’t do in the Rooney indecent. Like them your using small things that bear no real relevance and turning it into a grand conspiracy

3) Quite clearly you dont know your own sports as well as you do. As i said to RR one of the NFL’s biggest stars Eli Manning manipulated the draft to get his own choice, MLB is rife with agents pricing teams out of making real draft picks and such like.

4) The youth system in football is no worse than the American system. Its just different. They can poach i football but football academies provide a much more ‘relaxed’ enviorment outside the spotlight which the American system doesnt. From high school on American sports are designed to create a circus around the players with immense pressure put on them. Its all done to help the media and agents make money, so is as corrupt as the Football system

And the reason I brought up MLS is because your argument was so weak and unfounded that I honestly thought when you said “Yeah lets compare Ronaldo with a bunch of no bodies coming out of college” that you could only be talking about MLS because then and only then would your weak argument have and legs to walk on. I decided to cover my defense by quickly eliminating that from the fight.

Organized, professional and socially conscious sports organizations (see Canada and USA) may operate in a socialist manner but that is to protect players as well as teams from the meat market and unethical conduct that prevails in world football today. The fact you cannot see this and even more so, when you can’t accept it when strong evidence is placed in front of you just proves to me that you don’t get it and that I am no longer going to bother conversing with a blogger who is not open to anything except what comes out of his own mind. And besides, who really needs the anger and rudeness that you use to deliver your message. Clearly you have anger problems and I am not going to bother with you as all you do is get my anger up to. So, kindly give it a rest.

I know how the draft system works but if you really believe it to be fair and none manipulated your deluded. You can be the worst team, have the first pick and choose the best player available but does that mean the player will be playing for your team next year. No it doesnt. Picking the player doesnt mean they will sign a contract with you, if they don’t sign a contract you have wasted your draft pick. In baseball especially Agents price draft picks out of the range of some teams so that the less appealing teams were more likely to go for a safe choice who they know will sign rather than the best choice who they dont think will sign or be able to afford to sign.

In the NFL you also have cases like Eli Manning who told the Chargers there was no way he would play for them. So while the drafted him the immediately traded him to the Giants meaning Manning got his top dollar for being #1 draft, got the team he wanted and the chargers got a good player in return and by all accounts other incentives for the trade.

Its also not uncommon for top players to miss the open try out days put on to help recruiters for the teams decide their picks. Instead they host private ones for the selected teams which are scripted to engineer the right move.

And as for contracts being respected in America, they generally are here. You don’t see many actually break contracts or even threatening to. The clubs choose to cash in rather than risk losing a big transfer fee, where as thats not present in American sports as players are traded for another or draft picks. If in Europe clubs wanted to they could hold out and 99% of the players would respect their contract like in American sports

And it simply isnt, these are relativity unknowns in various sports that have recently left high school or college (depending on sport and the drafting rules) . However even then these players arent just sitting there waiting to picked by a random team. The draft choices are manipuated by the players and their agents to ensure they end up where they want so actually even players in the draft are somewhat similar.

Are you even aware of how the draft system works? Let me give you an example. Not too long ago Vince Young was on the lips of every college football fan. He had led his college UT- Austin to a BCS Championship and finished second to Reggie Bush in the Heisman trophy stakes (which is the college football version for the Player of the year) and he got drafted into Tennessee titans — a wank team. Similarly, Reggie Bush got drafter into New Orleans Saints, who again aren’t the best team in the country — they are decent but that’s all you can say about them. The fact is they continue to play for those clubs. Another thing is, the NFL draft for instance works like this: the worst teams get the first pick and they choose players accordingly. Players have absolutely no say in which club they want to join in professional sport in north america. In college football they do.

The American leagues are socialist leagues and cannot really be compared at all to the free market economics that govern soccer in the rest of the world. In that regard I agree. But you have your facts regarding manipulation wrong. Especially in the NFL and NBA that sort of thing is hard. Which is perhaps what Grognard is trying to drive at. And contracts are usually respected in North America, the clubs do have more power, and so do sporting bodies like the NFL and NBA. At the end of the day most player image rights etc are part owned by clubs, part by the govening bodies, AND part by players.

Regarding College and high school football, yes, there are plenty of cases of broken dreams — but then 80% of the people realise that they are not going to make it.

Note: The word football in this post refers to American Football. Not soccer.

Do you even bother reading others comments, after all where did I say anything about MLS. Again you are just inventing things to save your losing argument. You were holding the draft system up as being the same situation as Ronaldo. And it simply isnt, these are relativity unknowns in various sports that have recently left high school or college (depending on sport and the drafting rules) . However even then these players arent just sitting there waiting to picked by a random team. The draft choices are manipuated by the players and their agents to ensure they end up where they want so actually even players in the draft are somewhat similar. And players already at teams will through their agents try and broker trades if an interesting move is in the pipeline, if they are in the NFL, NBA, HHL or MLB it does go on.

What you want from players isnt loyalty, its blind loyalty. You expect them to forget all their dreams and desires as well as their happiness to stay at a club until the end of their contract. You can be interested by a move in the pipeline without being disloyal and as such theres nothing wrong with players wanting to move before the end of their contract as long as they do nothing to force the move (in the way that Gallas for example did). If you force a move through threats your disloyal, if you express an intrest but leave the clubs to decide the outcome and dont start threats and will abide by the outcome then your still loyal. And at this moment we have nothing to suggest Ronaldo isn’t willing to honour his contract.

Also tbh its pretty hypocritical from you to think Ronaldo shouldnt even be considering moving while under contract yet you are all for United selling some players who are under contract and also buying others who are under contract with their clubs. Surely the clubs after all under your belief should be honouring contracts they signed not trying to offload players for profit.

As for feeling like a worthless pawn, thats your own doing. Your so wrapped up in emotion and you have read so much into a situation without any evidence just so you can rant your head off. He hasn’t demanded a move, he hasn’t threatened to score own goals if he doesn’t get a move like Gallas did. All he has done is say its his dream to play for real and then shown some uncertainty on what way he favours. The uncertainty could be him messing everyone about but it could be real uncertainty about if a real bids coming and if his head or his heart is the right option to follow. Until theres firm evidence he is messing people around then he should have the benefit of eh doubt rather than people like you demanding he gets booed. You arent in his head, you dont know what he is thinking or how divided he feels over the situation so what right do you have to condemn him for not being clear about what he wants when he may not be clear himself

Oh and one last thing, since when did the American sport system protect youngsters? At the draft stage teams will do everything they can to ensure that the player and their agent want to join them so the draft is being manipulated in the favour of that team. While its generally against the rules players in the draft are bribed with gifts left right and centre, the same with their family.They are also made lots of promises for the future. Thats hardly protecting them.

The same goes on when it comes to college sports, high school kids despite it being against the rules openly get bribes to choose that college by the colleges recruiters. And lets not get started on the circus surrounding not only college sport but high school sport that heaps as much pressure on kids as they will face professionally. And at that age they arent ready for that pressure. After all even alot of High school games get higher average attendance numbers than the likes of Wigan and Bolton and Boro get. Most of these players will never even make it to the college game, let alone pros yet and will find themselves with a sacrificed education and going from being one of the stars of the town to a nobody overnight

And I do have a problem with loyalty. I have a problem with loyalty when you sign a contract which in itself is a pledge to give the next five years of your life to the club that has purchased your rights and which has helped you grow and nurtured you. The club that has made you the player you are today. Where is the respect, the gratitude? What happened to honor and living by your word and signature? Happiness and dreams. What a bunch of childish and silly notions knowing we are talking about a multi millionaire kid who has had everything handed to him on a silver platter and where the world is his oyster. Oh yes I am going to bleed over him not living out his dreams in his perfect environment.

No, actually I’d rather feel sorry for a bloke like me who has had his career cut short because of a chronic and degenerative back ailment and who is receiving a disability allowance that is nothing more than poverty wages until and when and if he is able to have surgery and get back on his feet and work. I feel sorry for the poor bastard who works 12 hour days to feed five kids and a wife and can’t make ends meet because his job requires him driving a rig a lot and he can no longer afford the price of gasoline. I feel sorry for the waitress and single mother trying to make ends meet and barely surviving 8-10 hours a day in a stress environment standing and walking on tired feet. But instead you want me to feel for a fucking cunt spoilt rich boy who has everything and wants more. Who has his cake and wants to eat it. I say let him have his cake and I hope he chokes on it because in the bigger scheme of things, his poor problems pale in comparison to mine and billions of other poor souls who would die to have a portion of his poor miserable existence. And shame on you for not seeing it for what it is. God how superficial many of us have become over a bloody sport and our desire to live our own dreams through the endevours of a select few millionaires who don’t even know we exist. Have you ever felt like you were the worthless pawn in a chess game? NO? Well you should. Because like a lot of us, we are all being played.