Apr 18
Deconstructing the Fergie-Benitez-BWFM Triangular Puzzle
A picture speaks a thousand word. A video speaks, well shows, depending on its length, anything between 10 and quadrillion images. So let’s do this with video exhibits.
Exhibit I:
Inference: Arrogance, good. Contempt, bad. Contempt for Big Walrus-faced manager, worse. Who better to explain contempt and arrogance than our own beloved master mind gamer. (I just made that sound like a cool futuristic game, didn’t I?) On a completely unrelated tangent, regarding contempt and arrogance, it is quite possible that some unhappy men could summon up the courage to walk up to him and say, “Mr Pot, meet Mr. Kettle”. But that will be in a parallel universe, which is why this is an irrelevant tangent.
Exhibit II:
Inference: “I know. We make the best lasgane. Deal with it. Prepared in no time and served by me, the best waiter in Spain.” (Read these lines in conjunction with the video. Helps deconstruct the inner workings of the portly gentleman on view. If it does not, well, humour me now, will you!)
Exhibit III:
Inference: It seems our lasagne inference was wrong after all. It was the wine, Big Walrus-faced manager was after. The crossover of hands meant, no wine for you, making a subtle reference to the soup Nazi. Now anyone being denied the best wine from the best waiter of Spain is bound to be disappointed.
Since this post follows an almost Tarantinoesque non-linear narrative, exhibit I would actually come between II and III in the real world timeline, as Big walrus-faced manager works very hard (but is denied his wine). So Big walrus-faced manager does his press conference while holding onto straws handed over to him by a Scotsman returning from possibly a productive day at the Grand National.
It’s what old friends would do anyway.
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- Manchester United confirm new contracts for Brown, Ferdinand and Carrick
- Fergie’s Super-Galactico Dream
- Celebrating Fergie’s 100% record in transfers
- Why Fergie Is So Precious to United
- Liverpool vs Manchester United: Preview
Tags: Fun/Off the Record
April 18th, 2009 at 12:30
i cant believe the scouse think FERGIE is cracking up! deluded convicts!
Anyone else realise that the season liverpool finally challenge for the league, is the season where the waiter opens his mouth as if he knows what hes doing? The bitch needs to get fergie a drink and shut up!
April 18th, 2009 at 12:47
Personally, I feel Benitez comes across a rather bitter, petty man – this mainly from several less than glowing tributes by managers, ex-players his overall demeanour. What he did after the goal could be read many ways, but it is obvious it was signalling a ‘game-over’ kind of message and if that was his intention, Fergie was right in his criticsm. Big Sam, personally, has every right to be pissed. I mean, Rafa didn’t even show up to the, assumeably customary, office meeting after his team WON!! How petty is that? In fact, I am happy Fergie called him out on this and Big sam should be too, like you said, that’s what friends are for, eh?
April 18th, 2009 at 15:25
@Gabriel: I am NOT happy Fergie called Rafa on this. Sam is able to defend himself, and so are Everton! All Fergie has done with this is shown himself to be petty, and brought United into the limelight again, at the wrong time of the season – PLEASE
. Just when the pressure was off us, and we were QUIETLY going about our business of seeking to get back to form, Fergie and his can’t keep his trap shut – ism, has brought limelight and pressure back unto us. I think it is very NUMPTEE-ISH of Fergie. Just when he had been looking good for not responding to Daft Rafa, now he looks every bit as bad as RAFA. Some of you may think that is ok, but I certainly don’t. Mind games my arse, just shut the fuck up Fergie, Rafa, Wenger et al. 
April 18th, 2009 at 15:28
@Dan: Fergie shouldn’t have given the scouse the ammunition then to think he is cracking up. But the scousers just want to get back at Man United for their Rafa cracking up chants, so what do you expect.
April 18th, 2009 at 15:38
@Craig Mc: Knee-jerk much? this is nothing compared to what rafa has been doing since the turn of the year. How is it petty to be saying this? rafa was completely our of order and maybe he didnt have to say but so what if he did? we are hardly in the limelight are we? your blowing this way, way out of proportion.
April 18th, 2009 at 15:57
I too thought that instead of defending himself for all that has been said he went and tried to cover Big Sam’s ass. Dunno what the thinking was,maybe he thinks its best to concentrate on his team than anyone else. Read this in RoM, it now makes Rafa’s position in the LMA an unenviable one.
April 18th, 2009 at 16:12
On the scale of things I think ‘mind games’ don’t really make a huge difference but I suspect they make a slight one. History would suggest that Fergie is pretty successful here, so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Rafa’s got to him… but I suspect it is being done for a reason…
April 18th, 2009 at 16:39
@Craig Mc: NO, Fergie has not shown himself to be petty in any way, rather, he has shown himself to be one who promotes respect and integrity. Fergie is more or less the Pope of English football and he felt it was right to highlight an instance of contempt and utter disrespect by a manager who has made a habit of doing this to several other managers. If Fergie was petty, he would complain that Rafa doesn’t call him Sir or Fergie wouldn’t entertain opposing managers in his office, despite of the match outcome. So far, it is Rafa who has proved petty by failing to do the latter and intentionally doing the former.
The limelight is always on United, because we are champions, which is why every utterance by anyone from our camp is hyperboled by the media. This is nothing new, we have experienced this almost every season. If anything, it’s the Scouse fans/players that should be feeling the pressure, why? Because they don’t face this intense scrutiny every year and are hence not used to it; which might partly explain why they stumbled and gave up the lead when they were untop of the league, they were not used to the pressure/scrutiny.
Believe me, if Fergie knew this would hurt the team in any way, he would not do it. This team have got more nerve than we give them credit for. They have been winning trophies constantly for the last few seasons, a few sensationalist headlines by the media would do nothing to their confidence or pitch-performance.
April 18th, 2009 at 17:20
I despise Rafa with a passion but I really believe this is a case of much ado about nothing. Unless I can read lips and minds I have absolutely no idea what Rafa meant by that gesture. Fergie may be right but I think it’s a case of looking for ammunition to use against him for the sake of fueling the fire. It truly amazes me these blokes actually shake each other’s hands before and after a game and call each other sportsmen. It’s major league hypocrisy. Say your peace, tell him how much you hate him and then refuse to ever shake his hand. Then and only then will I respect them for their media tirades and for the words they say to each other. But to call somebody disgusting and arrogant and then go out and shake his hand before and after a game makes me sick to the stomach. That’s what I like about North American sports. If there is a feud between to coaches, they ignore each other like the plague. As it should be. In world football, they will say the most terrible things to each other and accuse each other of horrible things and then on game day they will give each other a nice hardy handshake, a smile and offer some pleasantries that just make me sick. If Rafa is a piece of shit and an arrogant bastard then I fully expect Fergie to ignore him from now. But he won’t, which is what is so hypocritical and outrageous about the whole thing. This is just head games being played.
April 18th, 2009 at 18:10
@Gabriel: i agree with every word.
April 18th, 2009 at 18:12
Well if Arsenal play that way against us, we’ll beat them. After they scored, they just turned it right off. Completely disappeared from the game. Absolutely no midfield presence. I thought Fabregas had been given the day off but then I saw him out there. Sure it’s a makeshift lineup Wenger has put out there but they seem totally overwhelmed by the occasion.
Also, I thought Almunia was the worst keeper in the League. Now both Cech and Fabianski are vying for that crown. I never ever thought I’d be saying that about Cech. That boy has just been derailed. He’s lost the plot.
Chelsea will score twice in the second half to win this 3-1. Drogba has to get more involved and Lampard has to stop being selfish. Pass first and shoot second. He’s had men open in the box and decided to shoot instead on a few occasions. Still, Chelsea has been the better side by far. I don’t see anything changing. Not while Essien completely blankets Fabregas out of the game.
By the way, where is everyone?
April 18th, 2009 at 18:20
Love that RR, good to see a humorous take on this. LMFAO
April 18th, 2009 at 18:36
arsenal plays in the last 10min , like always
April 18th, 2009 at 19:08
How arsenal fans have the cheek to say fabianski is better then foster ill never know! He has been SHOCKING to say the least! Hes not good enough to even look at PIGs boots!
April 18th, 2009 at 19:14
Scratch that, Shocking would be a few levels better then fabianskis performance today!
April 18th, 2009 at 19:14
Torres Vs Fabianski
April 18th, 2009 at 19:17
HAHAHA!!!
Feckin Arsene, had the audacity to leave Arshavin on the bench till the 70mins, what’s the point? He thought Chelski were one of these mid-table teams that lose concentration in the last quarter of a match? Awful tactics! 
Good thing though, it shows that arsenal without Arshavin is quite limp in attack, added to their weak centre and fragile defence, I really fancy our chances!! 
@Dan: Mate, that’s the one reason I despise arsenal fans so much, the misplaced arrogance they have about each of their players. In all honesty, all our three keepers are better than any of theirs. All Almunia has over kuszcy is that experience. I certainly wouldn’t trade, that’s for sure.
April 18th, 2009 at 19:18
@Dan: Sure he’s shite, but if he plays against us, he’ll be the second coming of Casillas and Schmeichel rolled into one.
April 18th, 2009 at 19:22
@Dan: Compared to Fabianski, Foster is Petr Schmeichel.
April 18th, 2009 at 19:24
@edwin: Isn’t that the truth. We have a habit of making mediocre or poor keepers play well. I don’t know what it is. I think part of it is that we ourselves are poor finishers and quite often you will notice how we seem to shoot right at keepers. So basically we give them a chance to do well.
April 18th, 2009 at 19:24
we would have eaten arsenal alive if they played like that against us , but somehow like edwin says everyone becomes maldini , Schmeichel and maradona against us
April 18th, 2009 at 19:25
@Gabriel: That must be why then, NO professional footballer interviewed by the media, or anyone who is involved with football, have all said the same thing – that Fergie and big Sam are pathetic, and that they are indeed very petty. I agree with Grog that Fergie should have had a go when Rafa was mouth-balling him for weeks, and Fergie kept his feckin mouth tightly shut then
. Now he is being laughed at, trying to be the mouthpiece for every other manager and club, at L’fools expense. To be honest Rafa and Fergie are in the same club right now, and they should BOTH be wearing feckin schoolgirl gymslips, they are both so juvenile with all their jibes. So feckin pathetic to the extreme. Gabriel and Dan sabre rattle as much as you like, but the rest of the football world is laughing. So much childish PRICK-ism going on, its embarassing. The rest of Europe must think are teams in this country are run by a bunch of babies in suits.
April 18th, 2009 at 19:29
@Craig Mc: I dont care what the ABU scum think, I just dont want FSW to chat more shit. He’s as irritating as fingernails raking down a chalkboard. And making him chat more shit is as tiring as it is unbearable.
April 18th, 2009 at 19:32
@edwin: FSW?????????? WHO?
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April 18th, 2009 at 19:36
@Craig Mc: Lol! That fat one who still hasnt served us our drinks.
April 18th, 2009 at 19:45
@Craig Mc: See, it’s reactions like yours that the media and ABU’s thrive on. What has Fergie uttered throughout this whole affair that has been over the top or spiteful in any way? Did he present a dossier of ‘facts’? Did he even initiate this whole rubbish? Btw, who’s laughing? Is it the ABU’s? Anyone with half a brain or without those ABU-specs would see Fergie has done nothing indecent or even petty in this whole charade, which I must point out, has been played out by the media’s sensationalising.
Honestly, like Grognard said, it’s much ado about nothing and the fact that the media hyperbole every word and try to sensationalise it doesn’t get to me, and honestly, I don’t see why anyone should take it even remotely seriously, which is why RR’s take on it was quite refreshing.
April 18th, 2009 at 19:49
Btw, I’m watching the Getafe v Barcelona match and I must say the quality of the other 14 or so Spanish teams is quite appalling. No wonder Barca and Madrid have been strolling through the league. I honestly think, team for team, the PL is wayyy better.
April 18th, 2009 at 20:05
@Grognard:
April 18th, 2009 at 20:14
Damn we could be facing Chelsea in both the FA Cup AND the Champions League final. I have to say Im glad because although Chelsea are vastly improved under Hiddink and have a really strong midfield, we know their game inside out. Arsenal are a slightly more difficult proposition because they have more skill players who can cause problems for our defence and have better movement and ball retention.
April 18th, 2009 at 20:33
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/getallangreenout/signatures.html
Sign!
April 18th, 2009 at 20:40
@Dan: Signed!
April 18th, 2009 at 20:45
@edwin:
April 18th, 2009 at 21:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVb2gbMtN3I
April 18th, 2009 at 21:34
Man utd is like a Piano. It takes 8 men to carry it and 3 men to play it”. That’s what Jimmy Magee, an sports commentator for RTE, said about our club after watching our game against Porto.
I think this is the greatest cliche of all-time. Probably so true it isn’t a cliche anymore! I don’t think that statement was specifically about our performance that nightor our recent poor peformances but just really summed up our club. We always had 3 star players and then the 8 to do the dirty work. We had Best, Law and Charlton and last season it was Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez.
But who do you think these 3 players now?
Note: this isnt my work, i copied it from 606. Still pretty accurate.
Ronaldo and rooney are 2 of the players, i think either giggs, ferdinand or vidic is the 3rd player.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A50108384
April 18th, 2009 at 21:34
@Dan: O right Fat Spanish waiter – GOT Ya meaning now mate
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April 18th, 2009 at 21:38
@Gabriel: Absolute shite mate, my reaction is in agreement with most of the football world right now, and rightly so! But hey, all you Fergie is never wrong brigade wouldn’t see pettiness if it bit you on the arse. So here’s to national over reaction, which I feel is not unduly wrong in this case. What happens with Big Sam and Everton is fuck all to do with Fergie or United. Get our own house sorted out would be my own 1st priority.
April 18th, 2009 at 21:47
Errr sorry edwin
, the last post was meant to be addressed to you and not Dan. Your explanation of FSW – thank you 
.
April 18th, 2009 at 22:02
@Craig Mc: Anytime my friend!
April 18th, 2009 at 22:03
What a week for my friends!
My mate joins the Arsenal academy, another is going to Italy for a trial with Inter, then my best friend gets taken up from the 2nd local team to my first team, and lastly Magnuss Wolf Wikrem( 
) seems to get a new two year contract with United. Great news! Hopefully Im next… 
April 18th, 2009 at 22:05
@Dan: I bet the three he is talking about are Ronaldo, Rooney and Giggs. I dont think a defender, or Berbatov for that manner, would be one of them. They do too little offensively for it probably cant be them. We all know its Uniteds attack that carries us through the season, not our defense.
Even though Vidic has been pretty good offensivly this season…
April 18th, 2009 at 22:07
@RedDevilEddy: Cool! You go get ‘em Eddy!
April 18th, 2009 at 22:13
Rafa is just a monkey in an elephants body! How the fuck he can be a Liverpool boss, I dont get. And if you wanna have a laugh, listen to this: The Liverpool fans thinks he is a tactical genius!
How blind can you possibly be?! Saying Gerrard doesnt dive, saying this is “their year”, saying Rafa is a better manager than Ferie and denying that the only reason Torres went to Liverpool was that there werent any transvestites in Manchester. I discust them all. 
Hopefully Arsenal show up on Tuesday and show them a lesson, and we beat Pompey. Then we have the possibility to be 7 points clear, and then there will be no way back with 5 games to play. Please, shut their mouth! Its getting so stupid that it aint funny anymore, its just annoying. Those fuckers are only good at getting under peoples skin that its incredible!
April 18th, 2009 at 22:24
@RedDevilEddy: But when will it be you eddy
I dont care for your friends eddie! i want you at united! 
You could be our mole in the camp
April 18th, 2009 at 22:33
@Dan: Ive got my own mole in the camp. Magnus is a friend of a friend of mine, so Im not toatally unknown to what happens inside the club.
Hopefully it will be me soon. When I had my chance 3 years ago I got injured, 2 years ago I played with a coach who wanted us to develop our weaknesses in games, instead of using our strenghts, which hurt my play a lot.
Last season I had my best season, but my team didnt get going to around mid term. When the scousts did watch us, we were ina bad period because no-one but me trained during the winter break so stamina and shot power had drasticly fallen in the side. But this season I will hopefully be my big breathrough. 
We have our first game on Tuesday, but unfortunately we havent got so much of training on tactics. What I have done, as wise captain of the side, is to drive all of my teammates to train all the winter break so we get a good start. Im believing! 
April 18th, 2009 at 22:34
@Dan: I bet if I got a chance at United I would be in trouble.
The law says I have to be at least 500 yards away from Anderson, so how could we play together?! 
April 18th, 2009 at 22:42
@RedDevilEddy: r@RedDevilEddy: God knows what’ll happen if he scores while your on the pitch!
April 18th, 2009 at 23:11
@edwin:
@RedDevilEddy:
Im jealous! Magnus seems a pretty good player!
Norway is now officially my 3rd faviourte nation, edging out holland
April 18th, 2009 at 23:21
Anyone see Britions got talent? That little dude has got some talent! and thats the truth.
April 18th, 2009 at 23:53
Eddy, if there are people in ur team getting scouted and signed up chances are you will be next or there abouts. When the scouts came to watch my team 3 years ago, they got 2 kids signed up b4 me so i knew the scouts were watching the team and the management were recommending the players they rated. 1 kid got signed up at shitty of all places and the other ended up at palace (local team). I later got offers from west ham, palace and millwall but i got injured b4 i could properly sing forms and that so it all fell threw. I think since then 3/4 kids at the team have also been scouted and gone on to sign for prem clubs. So my point is if there are kids being scouted from your club, they will probably keep a record and will stay in touch looking for any other players that could make it. Your chance will come mate, just dont get injured like i did and u will be fine. Would be good for us all to know a guy who ended up playing for our beloved club. Good luck mate.
April 19th, 2009 at 0:22
@Dan: Jimmy Magee is a relic of a commentator who has been around for ages. He doesn’t report on the game he just wabbles on about a load of shite. It’s entertaining because he never really gets the big games but it’d be really annoying if he got a game I actually cared about. I remember in one pre-season friendly or charity match he covered for United in the past couple of years and when Ronaldo got the ball he just says ‘and now here’s Michael Flatley on the ball’ and I remember just putting my head in my hands
April 19th, 2009 at 1:43
@Gabriel: Yes, the post was tongue in cheek, and glad you liked it, but seriously, I sort of agree with Craig in that this whole thing was an entirely unnecessary and pointless exercise. I mean, who the fuck needs to care about Big Sam?! The media will call Fergie/Sam out on this and, for once, it’s not entirely unjustified, especially considering we could have kept our mouth shut and gone about our business until we string in a few convincing wins.
@RedDevilEddy: Hope you remember us mortals the day you get into the first team at United
April 19th, 2009 at 3:10
All I have to say is, take Arsenal lightly at your own peril. They have the 4th seat sown up, but the league is obviously out of the question. They also are now out of the FA cup, so the CL is all they have to play for now. So for those of you expecting us to just roll over Arsenal need to waken up. We have been sputtering for a while and until today Arsenal were the form team in the league. I am just hoping that the porto result is a sign of good things to comes and that we are ready to stop conceding goals.
April 19th, 2009 at 4:16
@Red Ranter: Big Sam has always been one of the few managers Fergie can truly call a good friend and so he stood by him. I admire him for it and I do not think it makes a hill of beans difference to the race. If anything, it will make the fat waiter think twice about how he acts and about the lack of respect he has shown the Premier League since his arrival. Even if the whole thing was making too much out of nothing.
April 19th, 2009 at 8:50
@Grognard: I know, but my point was that he brought it up entirely out of the blue. In fact Big Sam actually spoke about it after SAF brought it up. So I don’t get the need for standing up for him unless Sam himself talks about it to the media and then Fergie were to defend it. There’s friendship, and there is United. Two different things in my opinion. I feel convinced that Fergie finds it necessary to jump at Benitez at any opportunity, and that to me means that he’s beginning to accord a semblance of respect to Rafa. He is bound to play mind games and I don’t have a problem with that, but mind games have a lot to do with context and timing. I just felt he was off on the timing on this a bit, but it is a pretty rare instance of him getting it wrong.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:31
@Red Ranter: Could that not be down to press conference scheduling? i dont see how BS mentioning it after saf makes this any better or worse of a situation…
April 19th, 2009 at 9:36
@Red Ranter: I don’t know RR. If you look at Fergie closely in that interview and you also listen to him closely, he was very mad and he seemed a little emotional. I think he really believes in his heart that Rafa disrespected Sam and I’ve known for years now that Big Sam and Fergie are pretty close. I’m sure they talked about the incident over the phone or over a glass of wine. Fergie just decided to take it further and humiliate Rafa in the eyes of many by pointing out his actions as being disrespectful. As I said earlier, I may hate Rafa a lot but I never saw anything super malicious in Rafa’s gesture therefore, I do feel it is a case of overreaction due to stress and due to genuine dislike for Rafa by Fergie.
Everyone is talking about how Fergie gets under Rafa’s skin. I say it’s the other way around. Fergie is an old school individual who believes in a certain code of conduct and in his eyes, Rafa has crapped all over that code. So timing or mind games have nothing to do with this in my opinion. This stuff is coming out of a genuine vendetta and real dislike for the man and I think it’s just the beginning. I think we are really going to see a war of words next season. If it was mind games, he would have saved it for a time when we were about to play them. Nope, I think Fergie was truly pissed off.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:43
@edwin: I cant imagine!
All I know is that he would be very afraid with me running after him. 
April 19th, 2009 at 9:51
@Dan: He is. His strongest strenght was free-kicks and crosses, but as time went on his passing and power on shots becamse much greater. Bad thing though, he was always a little afraid when heading the ball… Closing his eyes and kind of a pussy when going into duels in the air. But on the ground he is very good.
You should come to Norway some time, its really great here! The nature is fantastic, and its not too warm. And even though some girls may be uglier than Tevez, the pretty ones are hot as the sun!
They aint too clever either… (Hope my GF doesnt read this! 
)
Seriously, you should consider coming here some time. There aint too much to do in Oslo, except from going to clubs, big stores or being in “the centre of attention”. Its easy to make people see you here, you just have to do something clever. From what I have seen, we aint too good when it comes to judgement…
Dance on the street, ask for money or rob a bank, as long as you do it stylishly people will give you an applause!
If you wanna see nature and enjoy the beauties of this country, you should see the fjords in the North-West, or the mountains in the centre of the country. Trondheim or Trøndelag is great for skiing!
April 19th, 2009 at 9:52
@Grognard: The overreaction, stress that you talk about are primarily borne out of the fact that Rafa is a serious contender now in Fergie’s eyes, and his outburst has brought it out in the open that Fergie is letting it actually affect him. It’s much ado about nothing though, and he’s looking at something seemingly harmless to launch into Benitez. I think that’s an attempt at mind games that is ill timed. He may be genuinely miffed at Rafa and may have taken Big Sam’s feelings to heart, but history has shown him to reign in those feelings strategically and bring them out in the open when the time was right. He may have thought it right to air it out now, but I found the effect jarring. So I am of the opinion that he’s got it wrong now.
We may go on to win everything and Rafa may have an egg on his face, but I don’t really get the point of this outburst, to be honest.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:55
@Dan: All I am saying is for him to bring it up only when Big Sam actually brings it up. We have plenty of press conferences now considering we’ll be playing almost every 3-4 days.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:55
@Red Ranter: Do I know you?
Nah, just kidding mate. This place has become like a… eh… family is maybe the closest word my vocabulary can get to. 
So I would never stop writing on this place, because I think its truly awsome! The bonding many of us here have gotten is pretty amazing, and I feel free to talk about personal problems as well as what is within the footballing discussion. So I would never leave this place, and if I got in THE DREAM I could be your mole( words of Dan 
).
April 19th, 2009 at 10:00
@Matt: Thanks mate! Im trying hard, and for now I am doing everything I can do to realise my dream. Thankfully the knowledge of fellow freinds getting into big clubs drives me on to try harder and to get spotted. What may ruin it for me is that Im too much of a team player, and Im not shining like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or, for that manner, Solskjær were. As a defender I cant dribble past a whole team, I cant be showing my goalscoring skills from open play, I dont get the ball as much as a midfielder or striker does, so its hard. Magnus is a midfielder, the Arsenal guy is a striker and the one going to Inter for a trial is a winger. Soooooooooooooooooooooo
But Im doing what I can, as a player and person.
Ive never been pessimistic of a thing, so I wont give up. If there is one thing being a United supporter has taught me, its to never give up… 
April 19th, 2009 at 10:00
and we are linked with kaka
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1171859/What-pages-say.html?ITO=1490
April 19th, 2009 at 10:01
god how would i love to see kaka in a united shirt but thats never going to happen
April 19th, 2009 at 10:08
@ROOOOONEY: Who needs Kaka to replace Ronaldo when we have Nani and Park?
Seriously, I think Ronaldo will stay. I hate Real, and Im sure Fergie is to. So for Ronaldo to go to Real, it would need something very drastic to happen.
I feel that its as likely for Ronaldo to move directly to Real as it is for Torres to move directly to United.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:20
ya it might be his dream to move to real , but he is not stupid to move to a team that cant compete on many competitions. Kaka is just one of those players i love , doesnt have to be ronaldo’s replacement! just get him!!
April 19th, 2009 at 10:24
@ROOOOONEY: Agree. If we could play more of that 4-2-3-1 formation, with a trio of Kaka, Rooney and Ronaldo behind a quality striker, I cant see how we could play so many 1-0 games.
…. I have to make some transfers in FIFA 09…
April 19th, 2009 at 10:36
@RedDevilEddy: You sound like a travel agent
@RedDevilEddy: You know, i have never tried that formation, mine has always been a 4-2-4, 4 defenders, a CM/CDM(currently a CM) and a CAM, 2 wingers, a CF and finally, a ST. That is such an attacking formation, so much that often i have to balance it out by setting my teams mentality to defensive.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:27
@Dan: What can I say? I like Norway, its a beautiful country with lots to do.
Ive tried out different formations in FIFA 09. First off is a 4-4-2 which gets changed to 4-3-3 because I play with 4 defenders, 2 cms, 1 LM, 1 RW and two strikers up front. Then I played a normal 4-3-3, Barcelona style. Then 5-3-2,
, but now I have settled for a 4-2-3-1 formation for most games.
———–VDS———-
Rafael–Rio–Vidic–Evra
—-Owen—-Anderson—-
-Ronaldo–CAM—Rooney–
——-Berbatov———
I tend to use Carrick as midfielder instead of Anderson, and put him in CAM. I awlays play Rooney and Ronaldo, but the striker situation changes… In manager mode I rotate with these players:
GK: VDS, Foster
RB: Rafael, Eddy
CB: Rio, Vidic, Evans, Brown
LB: Evra, Fabio
RM: Ronaldo, Nani
CM: Anderson, Hargreaves, De Rossi, Carrick
LW: Rooney, A. Young
CAM: Anderson, Giggs, Kaka
ST: Benzema, Welbeck, Berbatov, Macheda
Pretty good team.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:40
@Red Ranter: Amen to that! Someone else who can see that Fergie has not done himself or United any favour by bringing that stuff out at this particular time. Especially as he was meddling in other Managers businesses – namely big Sam and Moyes. Let them fight their own battles – our focus should be on our lot!
April 19th, 2009 at 12:48
@Grognard: What I detest is that these petty war games are being peddled through the press. WTF can’t grown men face up to each other, yeah face to face, toe to toe and have it out. That’s what I do if I am miffed and have something to say to my mates, I confront them, and not go thru mediators – its pathetic all this speaking out to the world. What a bunch of big girls blouses. Fergie is from the dockyards of tough Glasgow for heavens sake, they would eyeball to eyeball you and speak right into your face. Then that would be it. Present behaviour from Managers in this country are utterly school boyish and pathetic. How do they expect their players and fans to focus on the team and football matters, when THEY DON’T?
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April 19th, 2009 at 13:03
@RedDevilEddy: Thats a good time, what season are you in?
April 20th, 2009 at 22:15
A few prematch comments made by big Sam which contradicts his apparent sensitive side since!
“But from my point of view, it doesn’t matter one way or the other what other managers say and it never has done.
“I’ve managed to psyche out a few managers in my time, but nobody has ever psyched me out.
“I don’t give a damn what they say before, during or after a game, but there have been occasions when I have shoved it on the notice board for the players and it has made a difference for them.”