Jun 16
Et tu, Rio?
I don’t like to deal with the usual tabloid guff. But this is outrageous. And unavoidable! (via Daily Mail)
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Craig Mc (349)
Moscow is my heaven (272)
@Craig Mc: hows it going Craig? How would you spend the loot?
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@Stephen: I’m not yet convinced by Rafael. As I already mentioned I would take a Denis Irwin, ok maybe that’s a bit easy, a Nigel Winterburn, everytime over Roberto Carlos. I really hope he steps up his game defensively as even against mid table teams in the PL he was sometimes left wanting defensively. I’d hate stupid man marking mistakes against Real or Barca in the CL.
That’s why for me Brown and O’shea are still ahead of the boy Rafael…
But tat boy De Laet put in an amazin defensive performance on his debut. I know he played against some minnow, but I’d really like to see more of him..
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@NicoQB: Move on Bro, fook off with Winterburn mate he was shite
Full backs these days are attacking options in modern football, Evra, Bosingwa, Maicon, Alves, A Cole ect are all attacking options football has changed these days mate, Rafael is young mate and will be superb, O’Shea simply isn’t a full back, De Laet has played one game but Wes is still our first choice.
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@Nico, @Stephen, @Grog @Dan, @ anyone? how would you spend the loot?
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@NicoQB: Well, he’s no Maldini when it comes to defence, but he is far from the likes of Bosingwa either. I watched plenty of Barca games and he seems to be able to deal with the defensive part of the game quite well, plus he is a monster in attack. Literally. He would make a world-class winger, if he was not pinned back.
As it is, he makes a world-class full-back.
Dani Alves, better than Gary Nevilla
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@phoenix red:
Mahmmadou Diarra / Danielle de Rossi
Ashley Young
Alexis (is that right?) Sanchez / Joao Moutinho & Giuseppe Rossi
Sergio Asenjo
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Forgot to say: you could get all those for about 60 mil.
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@Stephen: Not if John O’Shea and Gary Neville’ll still be around
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Is it just me or is the guy behind Rio (in the first picture) checking him out?
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@phoenix red: We need to look at what areas need strengthening mate, we need a striker who can play off the shoulder of the centre backs, for me Huntelaar is a sensible option for the price and his age.
The real need is in the centre of the park, we need a player who can put his foot in, De Rossi is a pipe dream as he is Roma through and through, YaYa Toure is staying at Barca but Flamini is a cheaper and easy option as he knows thhe league. I would also like Aquilani, but am not sure how he would settle in the prem.
Arteta would be a decent shout I have always thought that he was quaility and may relish the step up, but obviously Sneijder would be great. Out wide left Drenthe would be a really good buy, he is agressive and looks made for the premiership.
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@Andrei: Neville will be around for the next ten years mate, it is a shame because he is legend and the longer he is around he is damaging the memories.
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@Stephen: Hey man, Winterburn was the only one in the Arsenal back four, to whom I had some sort of grudging respect. I hated the guts of Keown, Adams left me indiferrent, but Winterburn, while being workmanlike, rarely if ever made mistakes.
As for modern full backs being offensive, I’m not against their foraging forward, but poor man marking always makes me cringe – Rafael is much too often acres from the zone he’s supposed to keep and Evra (this last season) has been leaving too much room to his opponent. Neville in his peak had very good positioning and if he was a better footballer, he would have been called world class.
@Andrei: I think we all agree about that. Anyways, who isn’t better than Neville nowadays?
@phoenix red: My heart says Gourcuff.
My head says:
Silva, 20-25million
Hernanes, around 20 million
Savidan (very ralented 32 year old striker who would be happy to play the rotation. He was always fast so even in later years he still has pace…) max 7 million
Keep the rest of the money for future buys, when the market prices go down to more reasonalble prices. Maybe keep an eye on Pogrebnyak.
Loan Possebon, Gibson, maybe C.Evans
Promote a few kids from the academy – James, De Laet. Give the Drinkwaters and Norwood Carling cup time. Nani, Anderson, etc. should not be playing in the Carling cup this season.
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@Craig Mc: I stronly disagree with that mate, at 34 I still qualify fo the youngies thread, now Grognard and Redrich are a different matter, a couple of weeks ago they were discussing bands that my father used to to talk about.
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@Fred The Red: You mean like The Kinks, The Who, Eddie Cochran, Dave Brubeck Quartet, Rush, Dave Matthews Band, The Yardbirds, Pink Floyd, etc?
I wasn’t on a couple of weeks ago
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@Fred The Red:
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sorry! Looks like Andrei might be one of the golden oldies too, ‘cos he seems to know the bands they were talking about 
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@Fred The Red: @Craig Mc: Now settle down, children!! Didn’t anybody tell you to respect your elders??
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@Redrich:
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….News Flash!!!….News Flash!!…..
SAF has been named “Salesman of the Year” by the fraternal brothers of the “Footsy Woolpullers”.
The FW’s, award this honor based on outstanding achievement in the art of selling the improbable, and the 80m price for the Virus CR-8RED was, by far, the most audacious of all this years entries.
Mr. Ely du Lott, chairman of the fraternity, said “I was particularly impressed by Sir Alex’s timing. When the world is experiencing flu on pandemic proportions, he managed to sell Madrid the extremely virulent CR-8RED strain, and not at a bargain price”.
Last years winner, Mr. Cy Near, who incidentally, runs a chain of tanning salons in the African Nation of Zimbabwe, presented Sir Alex with the “Nucon d’Or” trophy and asked him how he was to spend the 80m. SAF in true fashion replied, “It’s mae daen moanie, and eye’ll spind’t as aye wheel” Which briefly translated, means – “If it costs me 80m for Valencia, then so be it” .
So there you have it, SAF puts another cup in his trophy case and the 8RED has gone over to Madrid!!
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@Craig Mc: @Andrei: Hey! I’m in my mid twenties, but I listen to about half of these bands!
Right now I’m going through a Dream Pop, Ethereal Wave phase- Dead Can Dance, Cocteau Twins and the like…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-be1Q5MkIGs
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/17/manchester-united-transfer-policy
Not good if true, I really hope this is media BS and not the Glazers interfering with fergies transer policy. I think signing younger players is a good practice, but every once in a while you need to pull the trigger on a arshavin, eto, villa, ribery.
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@johnsom33: I think this went out the window when they sold Ronaldo!!
I actually liked the youth policy, but you would have to have a solid starting 11 that could maintain our status-quo within the PL while the younger players adapt and learn their trade.
With the the departure of CR, we are a very different team, and one that could struggle for CL qualification, if we dont sign players that could equal his production!!
CL qualification is imperitive to the clubs business plan and so they have to spend to address the goal scoring problem they have, and buying for the future will not resolve this!!
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@Redrich: I agree with everything you said, I just hope this was the policy before ronaldo sale.
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@Johnsom33: It’s a shame, though, for the younger players coming through the system. They will have little or no chance to break into the team unless their skills are absolutely stellar!!
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@Craig Mc, NicoQB: I’m just 18… with a weird taste in music
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@Andrei: I don’t like Manchester United players who ride side saddle and whose favorite movie of all time is La Cage Aux Folles.
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@Grognard: Well, I wouldn’t date them either!!
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@johnsom33: If its true we may end up with our very own Wenger with all the kids and kids can win trophies philosophy. Which convinced with…
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@phoenix red: Klass Jan Huntelaar, Alex Sanchez, Ya Ya Toure and Hernanes would be my choices. I’d throw in Douglas Costa too. All under 26 and all ready to rock.
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@Fred The Red: Yup, that Glenn Miller and Count Basie were pretty damned good and I just rocked to those hip Duke Ellington tunes too.
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Considering the financial situation now , I think we’ll have to live with that policy. If we sign a top youngster, in the hindsight it might not look bad.
But I can understand the reservations that the club might have signing Ribery and Eto’o . They would come for crazy money and we are not sure if they would finish their careers with us. I firmly believe we should sign atleast one young player who has proved himself in Europe or in a tough league, not an unkown talent like Costa or Neymar. Only three names come to my mind ie. Benzema, huntelaar and Young. I’m not sure if Sneijder would strengthen us, we need a defensive mid fielder.
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@Craig Mc: It’s got nothing to do with being old. It’s got to do with having good taste. And speaking of good taste, it doesn’t get better than this; The Beatles, The Sisters of Mercy, Depeche Mode, Guns n Roses, David Bowie, The Clash, Fleetwood Mac, Meatloaf , Queen, The Cars and Coldplay. So for those who think I’m square me.
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@Redrich: Yes or I’ll get after all of you with my cane and I’ll throw my dentures at ya. Young whippersnappers!
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@johnsom33: I have no problem with that except for one reason. In the past we could always say, buy young and Fergie will mould them into something special like he did with Ronaldo, Beckham, Scholes, Giggs and many more. But how long does Fergie have left? He’s bound to retire in the next year or two and so, really, is that the proper way to go for him? I know that he is obsessed and consumed with winning at least one more Champions League trophy. Buying kids will not allow him to see out that dream as they will take time to reach their peak like Ronaldo did last season. For Fergie, it’s shooting oneself in the foot.
However, the bright sign to all this and the exception to the rule I’m sure, is that rule stands for regular business as usual transactions based on our yearly allotted 20 to 30 million pound transfer allowance. This year we just added 80 million to that with the sale of Ronaldo. So I am personally certain that rule goes out the window for this season anyway. So Fergie, buy somebody we can all agree on and who cares if he’s 26 or older. Just don’t buy anyone 30 or older. We have enough of them unfortunately. Some players don’t know when to hang it up for the good of the team and help free up some more money.
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@Johnsom33: Like Redrich said, I think the policy takes a rest for this season with 80 million there for Fergie to spend on whomever he pleases. I for one am sick of just buying kids with promise. By all means buy some but buy a few proven players with pedigree.
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@Andrei: I don’t know of too many 18 year olds who don’t have a weird taste in music. When I was 18 I listened to music 30 year olds would listen too and when I was 30, i was listening to music 18 year olds were into. Whatever floats your boat mate. stay true to your taste and never let anyone tell you it sucks because it doesn’t to you.
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@Redrich: Yes but I think Rio would.
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@Andrei: Ah you have pretty good taste mate. I love Pink Floyd, The Who, Dave Mathews Band, Rush.
And I’d add in a bit of Dream Theater, Led Zep, The Doors, Guns N Roses (their early work), Lynyrd Skynrd, Fleetwood Mac, Travis, Joe Satriani and pretty much the whole Forrest Gump sound track among the classic stuff.
Among modern music I love a little industrial music in NIN, Deftones, the older albums of Metallica, and some mellow stuff like Coldplay although some of their new work is a bit too repetitive.
And Craig, you don’t have to be old to like this kind of music.
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Also, new post up.
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