Sep 15
Everton vs Reds: Appalling But Three Points
Update: Report will be in later on. Nothing to write about in all honesty though. We were utter crap but Vida bailed us out.
Even the official site confirms that Rooney will be in the squad. Personally I am apprehensive about playing Rooney so soon even if it is for ten minutes. I can’t believe SAF would take such a gamble, given his stance during the world cup last year. Granted, he’s not the sort to take risks on his top men – which would mean that Rooney has shown superhuman healing abilities (Claire Bennet, of Heroes fame, style 
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But there is a chance that he is playing Rooney more out of desperation, in case we are faced with a dire situation.
Oh well, we’ll have to trust Fergie’s judgment on this one. Bring ‘em on! What do you reckon will be the formation?
We’ll try bringing you updates, but we can’t promise as in all likelihood we’ll be too busy watching the game. While you are waiting for the game you might head over and vote for Red Rants too. Or discuss away in the comments.
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- Everton vs Reds: Preview
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I have always been a fan of Carrick. I thought we would pick him up from the West Ham fire sale and couldn’t believe it when Spurs got him for less than £3M. He is a Northern Lad and would have easily come to us rather than wanting to stay “darn sarf” like Lamps & Cole.
I don’t think we exactly got a bargain but I thought the fee was £14M rising to £18M on trophies etc.
Barry is a good footballer but maintaining he is better than Carrick is fatuous. Carrick started last season slowly but he and Scholes were immense by the end.
To want to sell him after 6 games and buy an inferior player just because he has had two good outings for England is just plain silly
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im not judging barry by 2 games, the stupid people here are the people who assumed that i was judging him from his england games, when in fact im judging him from what ive seen of him.
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Grognard ur spot on! If Fergie could pick the right team (and that includes substitutions!) we would be far more comfortable. the ammount of times you sit down for a match n our line up looks like a fuckin WIND UP!! Giggs can clearly no longer play 90mins for us, Tevez NEEDS saha or any1 with some stature up top with him for him 2 flurish, Pique has to play with Nev out as Brown is a mug going 4ward… ETC…..All these things are clear to see for any1 really payin attention
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APPALLING! Well I wouldn’t go that far regarding the match but I would use that word to describe the current state of modern football and the EPL. Money and the pressure to perform at the highest level due to the money involved in placing a team in European competition has created a game that is very unattractive to watch. This modern trend of stacking the midfield with bodies and clogging up the passing lanes has so destroyed the flow and beauty of the game.
Forget the fact I am from North America. Unlike many of us here, I have great patience and enjoy a well played 1-0 match. The problem is that there are far too many 0-0, 1-0 matches with little or any action. It’s bad enough to see the bottom feeders resorting to negative Berlin Wall tactics but teams like Liverpool and Chelski are also ultra cautious and are elated with 1-0 victories. Think back to the 90′s and how beautiful it was to watch a game. I will always give United credit for playing attractive attacking football, but even they seem to have run up against a wall they are finding impossible to climb. The only way is to play an old style 4-4-2 with two tall central strikers and cross the balls in to them. Unfortunately, the money and possible loss of points keep top managers like Fergie from doing this because it leaves us suspect at the back on a rare opponents counterattack. This means that even Fergie is lacking the courage to forcefully attack teams who use these negative tactics.
Defensive tactics are not new to the game but they have become increasingly technical and the cheating aspect (especially shirt pulling has become epidemic)has made it very difficult for offensive attacks to succeed. I have a few suggestions on how to improve the present way of things, but how do some of you feel? Do you have any suggestions on how to open up the game so that it becomes free flowing again? How do we end this negative cycle of play that has hit the game like a plague?
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changing the subject, why the hell is eckerly or what ever he’s called still at united? he’s 22 and hasnt broken into the first-team bench yet, he needs to leave.
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Grognard WE can’t change anything, footballers play to win and they clearly think that playing defensively against the big teams makes it easier.
‘The only way is to play an old style 4-4-2 with two tall central strikers and cross the balls in to them’ The fact that you wrote that on a manchester united blog is plain stupid. Last year we hardly crossed it in at all and we played beautiful football, just like arsenal do consistently, and they barely ever cross it.
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Frankly, I feel that Tevez is the next Paul Scholes. From what I’ve seen him play so far for United. He loves come deeep to get ball and he has very good passing skill. He can score from the edge or out of box. Also can hold ball to play or pass to others. Bu when we put him as a target man. He’s useless. What do you think?
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Mikael Silvestre will miss the rest of the season with a cruciate knee ligament injury. i now it sound crual but im glad
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Feel sorry for silly.he has been a good united player
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All I am saying is that the game has become more and more complicated regarding breaking down defenses. If taking and old school approach like 4-4-2 creates more scoring opportunities, then so be it. Unfortunately United has built their team to play an attractive continental style. Although it’s early, it seems that teams have figured out what United are up to tactically and have adapted a style of defending that is lacking in attacked but stacked on defense. I’ve talked to some local coaches and we are in agreement that the only way to break this style of defense down is through the use of height and physical presence in the box. This is not written in stone however. This is why I threw the question out there to see what other tactical concepts might work better with the talent available.
It’s extremely frustrating to watch United churn out the crap they have offered us this year. I’ve never seen anything like it from a team as loaded in talent as this group is. Injuries happen to all teams so lets not use that as an excuse. Fergie has got to figure out another scheme rather than patiently wait for the Messiah Rooney to return. He’s not exactly a goal scoring van Nistelrooy machine you know. We must consider ourselves extremely lucky to be in the position we presently are in. Now it’s time to wake up and turn on the turbo jets.
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Dan – sell Carrick in January? What wrong has he done? Do you really watch Man U matches or you rely on hearsay? Carrick is a very good player. You do not sell your good players to buy others. Man U is not like Chelsea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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you all blinded, he performs in the small mataches and disappears in the big matches, i completly forgot if he was in the city match because thats how uninfluential he is, the only good performance that i can remember is the one against roma.
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oh yea, its a good opertunity for our younger defenders now that silvestre is injured, there gona get alot more matches than thet expected.
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“Frankly, I feel that Tevez is the next Paul Scholes. From what I’ve seen him play so far for United. He loves come deeep to get ball and he has very good passing skill. He can score from the edge or out of box. Also can hold ball to play or pass to others. Bu when we put him as a target man. He’s useless. What do you think?”
I find myself agreeing with your statement. Its really strange as he is a playmaker/striker but I do see him been a pivotal part of Man Utd. He should be giving a free role in the team and should not be wasted as a target man. Only way he can be a target is if we pass it on the ground. lol
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Lads- check out the boy Marek Hamsik, plays for napoli + Slovakia. Hes an attackin mid, 20 yrs old n classy as fuck. couple reports l.year said he drempt of playin for us 1day
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We cannot celebrate the injury of Silvestre. It is purely inhuman to celebrate the injury of one of our players however how much we dislike his style of play. Do not forget we have already sold Heinze and if anything was to happen to Evra now (God forbid!) we could have a serious crisis at the LFB position. If we think Silly is very ineffective, maybe we can lobby his his disposal next summer and we buy a better defender but to clap our hands when he is in pain is rather unGodly!!!!
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Grognard,
While I may agree with you that what we need is the 4-4-2 system, we do not necessarily have to get two tall strikers at the box for whom to send the aerial crosses in order for them to score. What we need is the same strikers that we have at the moment – Rooney and Saha. With Ronaldo on the right and Nani on the left (plus the attacking runs down the wings of our two able RBs Evra and G Neville) we should be able to turn the teams around. This idea of not penetrating in the box has come out only this year. If Saha can hold well inside the box and Rooney just before him, I do not see why we should not once again start penetrating enough. When G Neville is on the run, Ronaldo should move inside and G Neville pass the balls to him so that he can take the defenders head on inside the box – get penalties or set up Rooney/Saha inside the same box. We need ground attacks not aerial ones but with good driblling skills from Ronaldo, Rooney and Saha…
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I agree with you Hiram. Two tall strikers is just the ideal scenario but I wasn’t exactly expecting that to happen. I would love to see the addition of a Huntelaar to the team in January though. The problem with Ronaldo and Nani in a 4-4-2 is that they are not the greatest crossers in the world. They are not terrible but they certainly are not Beckhamesque.
You are dead on about Neville. This team misses his forward runs down the right side a lot. We also need more attacking ambition from Ronaldo and Nani with the ball at their feet. I honestly feel that Ronaldo has been a little timid so far this early season. He needs to go at defenders. Nani does also. To often they have moved at a snails pace and have been more than comfortable making the safe pass that accomplishes nothing. I feel that both Scholes and Giggs will improve as the season moves on. They are getting old and sometimes it takes a little longer to find your form at that age. Whatever the case, Fergie has finally got to put two strikers on the pitch to start a game. 4-5-1 is just garbage and it isn’t working other than it is keeping mediocre opponents from scoring on us.
Finally, I am really looking forward to seeing what Ronaldo and Nani do against their formal club Sporting Lisbon. That should wake both of them up and really motivate them. But I’ll bet you Fergie will not even start Nani, which I think would be a mistake. I hope I’m wrong.
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