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		<title>By: NiKOS</title>
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		<dc:creator>NiKOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:mrgreen:  great news!</description>
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		<title>By: Nico QB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nico QB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-23705&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;johnsom33&lt;/a&gt;: Well johnsom, the fact that his dad was an alcoholic i think nailed in him the message to be careful when it comes to alcohol perhaps?

Certainly when it comes to women he&#039;s not as careful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-23705" rel="nofollow">johnsom33</a>: Well johnsom, the fact that his dad was an alcoholic i think nailed in him the message to be careful when it comes to alcohol perhaps?</p>
<p>Certainly when it comes to women he&#8217;s not as careful!</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-23771&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grognard&lt;/a&gt;: As I wrote, he will mature, but it won&#039;t come sooner by benching him. I simply don&#039;t believe that. It will come naturally to him, when he gets older and wiser.

I don&#039;t disagree with you that he needs to channel his energy differently sometimes, I just believe it to be a natural development that can&#039;t be hastened by punishing him, because it lies so deeply in him. Forcing him to think too much about it could make him loose focus on the things, he&#039;s good at already.

And the reason I like Rooney is not so much his talent (even though it is phenomenal imo)... it&#039;s his aggression and desire. And I don&#039;t think, you can seperate his desire from those tackles. They may come out of frustration, but frustration comes out of desire to win and be your best, not from tiredness. Yes they may come, when he&#039;s tired, but if he was tired and not had the desire, he wouldn&#039;t make the tackles.

That means that you have to accept the tackles, if you accept his desire. I accept the tackles and can&#039;t wait for him to mature his way out of making them, because it will only make him even better, as long as it doesn&#039;t mean him losing the desire as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-23771" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: As I wrote, he will mature, but it won&#8217;t come sooner by benching him. I simply don&#8217;t believe that. It will come naturally to him, when he gets older and wiser.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with you that he needs to channel his energy differently sometimes, I just believe it to be a natural development that can&#8217;t be hastened by punishing him, because it lies so deeply in him. Forcing him to think too much about it could make him loose focus on the things, he&#8217;s good at already.</p>
<p>And the reason I like Rooney is not so much his talent (even though it is phenomenal imo)&#8230; it&#8217;s his aggression and desire. And I don&#8217;t think, you can seperate his desire from those tackles. They may come out of frustration, but frustration comes out of desire to win and be your best, not from tiredness. Yes they may come, when he&#8217;s tired, but if he was tired and not had the desire, he wouldn&#8217;t make the tackles.</p>
<p>That means that you have to accept the tackles, if you accept his desire. I accept the tackles and can&#8217;t wait for him to mature his way out of making them, because it will only make him even better, as long as it doesn&#8217;t mean him losing the desire as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-23720&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tomas&lt;/a&gt;: Sorry Tomas but I disagree with you.  The boy is great need of discipline and he needs to not only reign in his over exuberance but his work rate too.  He expends far too much unnecessary energy and that often puts him on the boil.  Then he either makes a bad tackle, loses his temper or he makes a meal of a great opportunity because he has lost his focus and concentration.  I have coached boys who are exactly like that.  Trust me, he is not so special and so unique as you may think.  What he has and why folks like you turn the other cheek is desire and talent.  If he wasn&#039;t so well liked for these traits, all those extra and often dirty sides of his game would not be welcome at all.  Then you would have an Alan Smith.  In order to be a great goal scoring striker, you need to be composed and in total control of your body and emotions.  Rooney needs to learn that there are specific moments where he should be giving his all and that isn&#039;t all the time.  His heart and aggression is important to the team.  It just needs to be channeled and controlled properly.  That will limit the bad habits, but it will improve his offensive game by leaps and bounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-23720" rel="nofollow">Tomas</a>: Sorry Tomas but I disagree with you.  The boy is great need of discipline and he needs to not only reign in his over exuberance but his work rate too.  He expends far too much unnecessary energy and that often puts him on the boil.  Then he either makes a bad tackle, loses his temper or he makes a meal of a great opportunity because he has lost his focus and concentration.  I have coached boys who are exactly like that.  Trust me, he is not so special and so unique as you may think.  What he has and why folks like you turn the other cheek is desire and talent.  If he wasn&#8217;t so well liked for these traits, all those extra and often dirty sides of his game would not be welcome at all.  Then you would have an Alan Smith.  In order to be a great goal scoring striker, you need to be composed and in total control of your body and emotions.  Rooney needs to learn that there are specific moments where he should be giving his all and that isn&#8217;t all the time.  His heart and aggression is important to the team.  It just needs to be channeled and controlled properly.  That will limit the bad habits, but it will improve his offensive game by leaps and bounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-23684&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grognard&lt;/a&gt;: The &quot;sitting-Rooney-on-the-bench&quot; bit is absolute nonsense imo.

Neither he nor the team would benefit from that. It&#039;s just a matter of him being that way, and he will mature with age. It&#039;s a natural development. I do agree that it can be necessary to install some form of aid or discipline for some players, but Rooney is certainly not in the catagory of players needing that. He&#039;s feisty, yes, and he does get bookings. He&#039;s never red carded, and all though he could have had one or two for some of his tackles, it hasn&#039;t happened. I couldn&#039;t care less, if he receives a booking 5 times a season because of his temper.

Ferguson believes Rooney&#039;s aggression and heart is so important to the team that he wouldn&#039;t be without it. Of course, Ferguson can&#039;t condone all of the tackles, because some of them endanger the health of players. It&#039;s a fine line, but Rooney animates the rest of the team for success, and Ferguson has stated this quite a few times. This animation might lessen, if his aggression lessens. Unfortunately with the aggression comes a few bad tackels and a foul mouth, but there are certainly worse players than Rooney. I for one would be very disappointed, if Ferguson benched Rooney, and I would also be disappointed, if he didn&#039;t bench him with the many important matches as reason. He should be kept on the field because of his desire, aggression and will to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-23684" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: The &#8220;sitting-Rooney-on-the-bench&#8221; bit is absolute nonsense imo.</p>
<p>Neither he nor the team would benefit from that. It&#8217;s just a matter of him being that way, and he will mature with age. It&#8217;s a natural development. I do agree that it can be necessary to install some form of aid or discipline for some players, but Rooney is certainly not in the catagory of players needing that. He&#8217;s feisty, yes, and he does get bookings. He&#8217;s never red carded, and all though he could have had one or two for some of his tackles, it hasn&#8217;t happened. I couldn&#8217;t care less, if he receives a booking 5 times a season because of his temper.</p>
<p>Ferguson believes Rooney&#8217;s aggression and heart is so important to the team that he wouldn&#8217;t be without it. Of course, Ferguson can&#8217;t condone all of the tackles, because some of them endanger the health of players. It&#8217;s a fine line, but Rooney animates the rest of the team for success, and Ferguson has stated this quite a few times. This animation might lessen, if his aggression lessens. Unfortunately with the aggression comes a few bad tackels and a foul mouth, but there are certainly worse players than Rooney. I for one would be very disappointed, if Ferguson benched Rooney, and I would also be disappointed, if he didn&#8217;t bench him with the many important matches as reason. He should be kept on the field because of his desire, aggression and will to win.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-23703&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;johnsom33&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;m actually one of the few people, who doesn&#039;t hate Ronaldo in here, I think, so that&#039;s not why, I make this claim.

Players like Ronaldo are the ones who add that extra spice, but that wouldn&#039;t matter, if you didn&#039;t have someone doing all the running. I&#039;m not talking about Ronaldo and Rooney specifically, but their breed of style and attitude.

If you honestly think that 11 skillplayers will win you anything, I believe, your knowledge of the game needs an upgrade. If a team of 11 Rooney&#039;s and 11 Ronaldo&#039;s met, the Rooney&#039;s would squash the Ronaldo&#039;s, simply due to effort and heart.

But having one Ronaldo can be more lethal than having one Rooney, because there is room for a player with his qualities, when the rest of the team works as hard as the players here do.

I&#039;m not discrediting Ronaldo, because I think he&#039;s awesome. And I think, he played a major part in us winning the double. I&#039;m not so sure that our game is built around him, as for instance Barcelona built their game around Ronaldinho. A lot of Ronaldo&#039;s goals come from clever runs into and positioning in the area... simply his game intelligence. It&#039;s not like we desperately need to give him the ball, he just often gets it due to the way he moves. Ronaldinho stayed on the left and ALWAYS received the ball out there, which is a different way of building the play around a single player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-23703" rel="nofollow">johnsom33</a>: I&#8217;m actually one of the few people, who doesn&#8217;t hate Ronaldo in here, I think, so that&#8217;s not why, I make this claim.</p>
<p>Players like Ronaldo are the ones who add that extra spice, but that wouldn&#8217;t matter, if you didn&#8217;t have someone doing all the running. I&#8217;m not talking about Ronaldo and Rooney specifically, but their breed of style and attitude.</p>
<p>If you honestly think that 11 skillplayers will win you anything, I believe, your knowledge of the game needs an upgrade. If a team of 11 Rooney&#8217;s and 11 Ronaldo&#8217;s met, the Rooney&#8217;s would squash the Ronaldo&#8217;s, simply due to effort and heart.</p>
<p>But having one Ronaldo can be more lethal than having one Rooney, because there is room for a player with his qualities, when the rest of the team works as hard as the players here do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not discrediting Ronaldo, because I think he&#8217;s awesome. And I think, he played a major part in us winning the double. I&#8217;m not so sure that our game is built around him, as for instance Barcelona built their game around Ronaldinho. A lot of Ronaldo&#8217;s goals come from clever runs into and positioning in the area&#8230; simply his game intelligence. It&#8217;s not like we desperately need to give him the ball, he just often gets it due to the way he moves. Ronaldinho stayed on the left and ALWAYS received the ball out there, which is a different way of building the play around a single player.</p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-23696&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Red Ranter&lt;/a&gt;: Well thanks for that background information RR.  I was not aware of those incidents as back then that kind of news was harder to find here in Canada than usual.  I do have a different opinion of the situation although I still feel that how a family deals with their sick child is nobody&#039;s business.  Missing a practice to attend to a sick child is no big deal.  Perhaps Posh could not get out of the event she had to go to as it was part of her Spice Girls contract.  Lets not forget that she too has a professional career.  Is it more important than a practice?  I won&#039;t be the judge but I think Fergie made a big deal out of it.  If he had found Beckham out partying or at that gala event, then Yes throw the book at him.  I make no bones about being a Beckham fan and maybe I am a little bitter over how he was literally booted out of OT.  For me I saw no lack of professionalism or focus on the pitch and although I agree with you about Ronaldo&#039;s professionalism and attitude on the pitch, I still feel that he is being treated like a teacher&#039;s pet.  It seems he can do no wrong....even when he clearly does wrong.  I just don&#039;t get Fergie&#039;s total devotion and love for this guy.  I even think some of his on field antics that are often selfish and rude in nature are not punished.  Nothing sticks to him.  From now on he will be known as the TEFLON RON.   :grin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-23696" rel="nofollow">Red Ranter</a>: Well thanks for that background information RR.  I was not aware of those incidents as back then that kind of news was harder to find here in Canada than usual.  I do have a different opinion of the situation although I still feel that how a family deals with their sick child is nobody&#8217;s business.  Missing a practice to attend to a sick child is no big deal.  Perhaps Posh could not get out of the event she had to go to as it was part of her Spice Girls contract.  Lets not forget that she too has a professional career.  Is it more important than a practice?  I won&#8217;t be the judge but I think Fergie made a big deal out of it.  If he had found Beckham out partying or at that gala event, then Yes throw the book at him.  I make no bones about being a Beckham fan and maybe I am a little bitter over how he was literally booted out of OT.  For me I saw no lack of professionalism or focus on the pitch and although I agree with you about Ronaldo&#8217;s professionalism and attitude on the pitch, I still feel that he is being treated like a teacher&#8217;s pet.  It seems he can do no wrong&#8230;.even when he clearly does wrong.  I just don&#8217;t get Fergie&#8217;s total devotion and love for this guy.  I even think some of his on field antics that are often selfish and rude in nature are not punished.  Nothing sticks to him.  From now on he will be known as the TEFLON RON.   <img src='http://redrants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: saudi red devil</title>
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		<dc:creator>saudi red devil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN WITH 11 RONALDOS

Simply because he wouldnt be able to make Edwin like saves or make a good defensive partnership like Vida and Rio or become Evra or even Brown, a lot of people pin us winning the double on Ronaldo but the reality is without our back five Ronaldo would be just another top scorer whose team won nothing out of their season.</description>
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<p>Simply because he wouldnt be able to make Edwin like saves or make a good defensive partnership like Vida and Rio or become Evra or even Brown, a lot of people pin us winning the double on Ronaldo but the reality is without our back five Ronaldo would be just another top scorer whose team won nothing out of their season.</p>
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		<title>By: johnsom33</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In that article that was posted the other day from the Mirror I noticed that it said Ronaldo&#039;s crew drank bottle after bottle of alchohol, but Ronaldo didnt have a sip. I think that speaks volumes about his priority&#039;s. It shows he takes good care of his body, and doesnt want to let his off the pitch antics affect his football. as far as shagging any one in sight? thats cool as long as he straps up, cause im sure STD&#039;s have never helped anyones footballing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that article that was posted the other day from the Mirror I noticed that it said Ronaldo&#8217;s crew drank bottle after bottle of alchohol, but Ronaldo didnt have a sip. I think that speaks volumes about his priority&#8217;s. It shows he takes good care of his body, and doesnt want to let his off the pitch antics affect his football. as far as shagging any one in sight? thats cool as long as he straps up, cause im sure STD&#8217;s have never helped anyones footballing.</p>
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		<title>By: johnsom33</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnsom33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-23662&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tomas&lt;/a&gt;: ok stop right there, you&#039;ll never win anything with 11 ronaldo&#039;s? didnt we just win the League and europe with 1 Ronaldo? Yes football is a team game and no one man wins games by himself, but wether you like it or not our team was built around Ronaldo. I understand that everyone hate ronaldo now, and that is fair and reasonable. the man has proved himself to be a first class cunt, but you cant deny the impact he has on the field. Donibrasco is right, Rooney is a very good player and one of the top in the League, but he is not in the upper echelon of players like Ronaldo, messi...yet(and I stress yet, i realize he is still young)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-23662" rel="nofollow">Tomas</a>: ok stop right there, you&#8217;ll never win anything with 11 ronaldo&#8217;s? didnt we just win the League and europe with 1 Ronaldo? Yes football is a team game and no one man wins games by himself, but wether you like it or not our team was built around Ronaldo. I understand that everyone hate ronaldo now, and that is fair and reasonable. the man has proved himself to be a first class cunt, but you cant deny the impact he has on the field. Donibrasco is right, Rooney is a very good player and one of the top in the League, but he is not in the upper echelon of players like Ronaldo, messi&#8230;yet(and I stress yet, i realize he is still young)</p>
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