Feb 10
Ferguson: There is absolutely no patience in the world now
Yesterday I was thinking aloud on twitter on Scolari’s sacking. I’ll quote from it for the benefit of those not following my sporadic byte-sized rants on the rather excellent micro-blogging service:
So now that Scolari’s sacked, what are the odds of tempting Zola? He says he won’t be tempted by the offer. Hmm… we’ll see.
Whether Scolari was good or not, the problem with Chelsea has been a lack of patience. Of course this is the case with most teams these days
Most sackings are followed by comments like “he’s lost the dressing room”. And if there are repeat instances like Chelsea’s case doesn’t that reflect poorly on those that inhabit the dressing room — i.e., players?
Chelsea over the years — of needless spending/chopping and changing — have accumulated far too much deadwood. Time for rebuilding question is, does Roman give a fuck anymore?
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The part highlighted in bold above underlines the essence of Fergie’s shock at Chelsea sacking Scolari. Perhaps, he may have been found out in the big league. Perhaps, his early season hysteria was an aberration. Perhaps, he didn’t get the team he wanted. But the problem with Chelsea, and many other clubs of late, has been a lack of patience in managers. Of course, the likes of Tony Adams had serious issues, but when you have a team that, despite playing poorly, is better off than Arsenal then something is clearly wrong with the game.
In addition to expressing shock, he also spoke on the role played by the media on the sacking:
“It just seems to be more volatile now. You can’t always blame the press – but it plays a part,” he said. “The way the tabloids are – competing against the internet and Sky News – there is a sensationalism every time someone has a bad result. There was great expectation at Chelsea that they were going to do well this year – and it is only this last month they have had a bad spell. The judgment really is only on the last month.”
Anyway, enough of the sermonizing. Meanwhile, let’s all laugh at Chelsea. HAHAHAHA!
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Best players in the world this season:
1. Leo Messi
2. Samuel Etoo
3. Nemanja Vidic
4. Franck Ribery
5. Zlatan Ibrahimovic
6. Steven Gerrard
7. Xavi
8. Frank Lampard
9. Dani Alves
10. Maicon
This is just my opinion…
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I cant believe FIFA 09 made Zoran Tosics total overall 69!
I know I havent seen much of the lad, and probably not many of the EA board either. But 69?! Fabio is fucking 70! And I doubt they have seen much more from him than Tosic. Oh well, I hope they have put some of those 69 in free-kicks and speed. And hopefully some over 50 on heading, jumping and marking/tackling and aggression. Deary me… I hope his face looks similar! 
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@RedDevilEddy: ill have vida at least second, maybe even first, i believe he has been incredible to this united squad and the real reason why we are doing so well, tis a shame he is not English as he would have been raking in all the plaudits the minute united went 3 games without conceding, which is what usually happens to john terry.
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@Red Ranter: I’m in agreement with you there. Yes Bosingwa is the better RB right now but I do not think it’s a huge gap between the two. Bosingwa wins by the length of a unibrow.
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@RedDevilEddy: I get the feeling you are judging right backs by reputation mate. Alves is good but he often gets caught upfield and napping. Ramos is having a poor season for Madrid and Maicon is having a great season which does make him probably the world’s best.
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@Red Ranter: I’m not disagreeing with you about whether it was wrong or right. It was wrong and very unsportsmanlike but it also was not a kick, whether the studs were showing or not. But I still feel that what Benayoun was doing was just as bad. Why? Because he was partly out of bounds and holding onto the flag. The ref or the linesman should have called for a throw in or a corner. The fact that nothing was done prompted Bosingwa to act out of sheer frustration at both the player as well as the officials. Not nice of him but Benayoun right or wrong a player who acts like a bitchy girl deserves it as far as I’m concerned. I just hate players that play like girly men.
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@Red Ranter: Have you watched Maicon play this season RR? He’s been frakken outstanding and probably the best player in Serie A. Alves is good but you are judging him more on the form of his entire team, not his own performances which from what I have seen, have been a little inconsistent. Maicon has been an offensive force and Inter’s best player by far. Without him Mourinho would have been looking for employment with Big Phil.
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@RedDevilEddy: It’s a video game mate and most of the guys working over there haven’t heard of 90% of the players in the game. Because he was from backwater Serbia, he was a total enigma to them and so they just got his vital stats down and guessed the rest. I know some of these programmers and they are just snotty geeky kids. Morons really. If you want realism, play Football Manager 09. That game is very well done and extremely well researched. Once you use the editor to tweak the injury frequency down to normal, the game is fantastic.
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Worth noting is that our boy Rafael has passed up on a sure spot in the Portuguese team to challenge both Alves and Maicon in seasons to come for the right back/right wing-back spot. That takes a lot of self-belief not to mention loyalty to his country. Those are the sort of mental qualities that will take him to the top.
Eddy I know your list is mostly based on form but I think there is still a spot for Ronaldo on the list. Even playing badly by his standards he still kicks Ibrahamovitch’s ass and has scored 11 in the league already, more than Lampard, Gerrard who are also midfielders. This is even though Ronaldo has been given less freedom to roam this season.
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@RedDevilEddy: My top ten
1. Messi
2. Ronaldo
3. Vidic
4. Ribery
5. Aguero
6. Essien
7. Xavi
8. Gerrard
9. Maicon
10. RedDevilEddy
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@colver: I aggree 100% about Ronaldo. How in God’s name could anybody omit him from the top 3. He’s having an off year due to injury and fitness problems and still has score 15 goals. The guy was superhuman last season and this season very good just isn’t good enough with many of you. Perhaps you would prefer Quaresma or Jermaine Pennant or how about Dirk Fucking Kuyt? Ronaldo is still tied with Mess i as the best in the world although 2009 is Messi’s season as 2008 was Ronaldo’s. And for those wondering where Mr. Ricky Kaka is on my list? Nowhere. Like Ibrahimovich and others, he;s overrated and struggles to get in my top 20. The grognard is after all, a miserable old bastard.
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Grognard, I like your list!
Except Gerrard. In the last 5 years at Liverpool if you take away the CL title they won and for which credit is due to Gerrard, I don’t think he has really been a world best top 10 player. He was not able to lift Liverpool into title contention until Torres came. To me, Gerrard is nothing but an above average Premier League player. He would not make the cut at Chelsea, Barcelona, or Manchester United and that is why Liverpool will not win the league or the C-L. In fact, I rate Torres higher than Gerrard.
PS: Did you know Barbie is making a doll based on Fernando Torres. They call it Barbie.
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On the RB discussion. Do you guys really believe that Rafael is better/more consistent than Gary Neville. I agree that Rafael is of far greater potential and will perhaps become better than Neville ever was, but as of right now, I see Neville > Rafael. Of course, I still think Rafael is a good player just not top RB in EPL right now.
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I hope we don’t end up like Chelsea come the day Fergie retires! Imagine if United hadn’t been patient! We’d probably be a mid table team.
As to the comment written prior to this. Yes i believe Rafael is overall better than Neville. The thing that he lacks is that sometimes he rushes to the ball while Neville is calm. Therefore Rafael lacks calmness. It, i believe, comes by experience. So yeah `Rafael is better than Neville but Brown is better than Rafael at the moment so when fit I’d prefer Brown playing RB.
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@Grognard: I have seen Maicon play this season and I think he is a superb player. But I think Alves is better and my judgment of him is not affected by the awesomeness of his team’s play; on the contrary I think he hasn’t got due credit and has actually been overshadowed by Barca’s front three and Xavi.
I may have over exaggerated by my choice of words when I said Maicon doesn’t hold a candle to Alves. But I maintain that I feel Alves is better. And my primary reason is that I don’t just view him purely as a right back — rather a right back, defender, midfielder, winger, second striker everything rolled into one. He brings a lot more to the plate in my opinion than Maicon, for all his excellence for Inter this season.
I suppose we cannot agree on who’s better on this count.
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@Grognard:
Regarding what Benayoun was doing, taken in the context of the match (i.e., dying seconds) the last thing he would want to do was to try turning on the style and concede goals in the process. It’s all nice to talk about showing intestinal fortitude and man up, but at the end of the day, especially in the dying seconds you don’t want to do anything silly. Almost everyone does that in football. I’ve seen Rooney do it before.
Regarding penalties for time wasting, we do see it in the case of goal keepers who are yellow carded for time wasting. So are players trying to feign injury and take an unusually long time either getting out of the pitch or standing on their feet and getting a move on. In Benayoun’s case the ball was in play — doesn’t matter whether the player was or not — and it’s upto the defender to tackle him from behind in an attempt to win the ball.
It’s not illegal, but I see where you are coming from here. It isn’t a case of what is legal or not, it’s a perspective thing for you where I find fighting (like you have in ice hockey) neanderthal, you find antics like that of Benayoun despicable. So once again, since it’s a case of perception of an act in the game, we would have divergent views on this one.
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@Oliver: Filling out the website name in the field meant for that should suffice. You don’t have to put it at the end of the comment too unless the link adds value to support something in the comment.
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@Madschester United: I know what you are saying about Gerrard but I just can’t get out of my head what he means to his team and how often he scores big goals when they need it. Frankly speaking, he’s a clutch player. Torres just misses being in my top 10 as does Lampard, Arshavin and Rio. As much as I hate Liverpool, I don’t dislike Gerrard. I have always seen him as a great player. It hurts me to say that as I have little trouble despising Chelsea and Arsenal players. I love Ballack and had I been asked 6 months ago about my top 10, Ballack would be in it. But ever since the season has started, he has been out of sort at Chelsea. And my other favorite is of course Riquleme who is still great and who would have been my number 1 player in the world before last season started. He has slipped a bit but still makes my top 20. A lot can happen to a player in one year.
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@Madschester United: Wouldn’t a Barbie based on Torres be better off with a name like Torrie?
He’s proof positive that girls can play with the big boys in football.
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@Madschester United: Yes I do. Neville is alright and he has done a great job coming back because three months ago he looked just awful. To be honest he has never been that great to me. Too often I remember him losing an opponent and it costing us. A good player during his career but not a great one. Rafael is already very good and has greatness written all ofver him, as does his brother Fabio. The are both Fab.
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@Red Ranter: He was holding on to the corner flag for balance mate. That’s a no no in my books and I still think it’s gutless. I come from a culture where time wasting and sniveling cowardice in sports is just not tolerated and I’m not going to apologize for it. If you need to resort to that kind of BS to beat your opponent, you don’t deserve to call yourself a winner. It’s bad form and it lacks guts as well as class and if it was me instead of Bosingwa, my boot would have gone so high up his ass his back teeth would have tasted leather. Sorry mate, that’s just not my style and I don’t tolerate the wimpiness of other cultures and how they transfer their cowardice on to sports. Yes I do want men to man up and play like men with dignity, courage and respect. As soon as they show classlessness to me, the gloves come off. I’m very old school and very alpha male about that. Let gay’s stick to figure skating.
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@Red Ranter: I don’t find fighting in hockey Neabderthal at all although I can see why others would do so. I know you have never played the game like myself and so I will say this, the game is the fastest team sport on Earth and it’s a very tough and physical game that allows body checks and all kinds of contact. With such speed and strength and collisions happening as well as the use of the stick, sometimes things get out of hand. But hockey players have passion and emotion in their souls and when tested or put in an uncomfortable situation, they will drop the gloves and go at it. That’s not Neanderthal. What is Neanderthal is boxers who make a living destroying each other and then suffering long term problems form that abuse. Hockey violence is as part of that game as corner kicks are a part of football. It was a game invented and perfected by hardened and tough as nails Canadians in the 19th century who lived in tough pioneering environments where letting off some steam often included the occasional fight. It’s the old west mentality. Right or wrong, nobody has ever died from having a hockey fight and many grudges have been settled. I’m far from a Neanderthal but I have been in my share of hockey fights because in the heat of the moment, you need to do it to defend yourself as well as the dignity of your team. Not like football where most of the players dive and fake injuries and act like they have just been shot by Lee Harvey Oswald.
The rules of footy have turned men into little girls. I mean I will never ever like yellow and red cards. My dad who played for Panathinaikos used to curse and spit at the screen when he saw a referee hand a card out. His exact words in Greek was “Malaka” (translation means JERKOFF). I’m mmy father’s son and when I played sports, I never wore a dress. It’s time football players all over the world grew a pair and stopped acting like a bunch of spoilt prissy cunts from a Jane Austen novel.
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To quote Goal.com!
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i have to opt for Alvez as best right back….hands sown actually, he’s been at it bout 3 yrs n this yr looks to be his best
as good as bosingwa looks, iv seem him look defensivly frail alot more than i have R.silva…..then you need to takes their respectives ages int consideration.. Pretty confident rafa infact is n definately will be the better player.
am i right in thinkin PETRUCCI N MARCHEDA Are in UCL Squad ahezd of Welbeck btw???
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@real red – Welbeck is in on the ‘homegrown’ list of 5. so they’re all in it. Welbeck was also rubbish last night in the U21, whereas Frazier Campbell was English man of the match. The kid is good, maybe not United good, but definitely worth keeping for a season as an impact sub. His ability to get in behind is somethign we lack, and his workrate was exceptional.
Also, Welbeck looks really big relative to the other kids, anyone who watch the reserves know if he can head a ball?
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@jos: I know its from Marca, but please Fergie, here’s your second chance, maybe if Tevez doesn’t get a deal, we could go for him? Though its Real and after the Ronaldo brouhaha, they’ll probably want to screw us with the price they’ll put on him.
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