May 29
Hazard, or calculated risk?
Following one of the worst self-advertisement stunts in recent years, Eden Hazard announced his move to Chelsea via twitter last night.
The west London club have added a potentially excellent player to their squad – Hazard is the only player together with Lionel Messi to have scored more than 20 goals and have more than 15 assists in any European league this year – and an even bigger ego to go with it.
Despite the transfer being done and dusted virtually before the start of the transfer window, the saga dragged on long enough to disappoint fans of the two Manchester clubs who have – allegedly – missed out on the former Lille man.
But have they? City will no doubt console themselves with another spending spree this summer, while United have reportedly agreed a fee to sign Shinji Kagawa from Borussia Dortmund.
The modern footballer is a very simple creature, the bigger the amount of money on offer, the likelier it is that a player will join a team rather than the other, which means that, despite David Gill’s bullish statements, United faces another summer of insecurity in the market.
Sure, for all we know United might not even have formalised an offer for Hazard but, at the same time, if they did and failed, the Belgium international will join a rather illustrious list of “we tried, it didn’t work out” targets United have missed out in the last few seasons.
What does that mean for a club the size of United?
A few years ago the thought that being the most successful English club with arguably the greatest manager in the history of the game was not enough of an incentive to swap London, Spain or Italy for the red half of Manchester could have been labeled as madness, but the last few years have proved that money talks louder than history and heritage.
Players are always motivated by money just as top players have always commanded big fees and seeking shelter behind a romantic attitude will not change the course of things anytime soon.
Not for players that announce their career developments through twitter, anyway.
Daniele (mufc_dan87)
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Lets not kid ourselves into thinking that we had any chance of getting him. Whether he is a good or bad deal is Chelsea’s concern not ours.
Lets concentrate on Kagaya as he is our sort of player.
The days when we compete for the brightest prospects in Europe are long gone. Our best chance is to go for the steady, low profile team players and hope we can build a cohesive unit
Voted a great comment - Well Done poster.
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@colver: I am with you on that one. this is the era of money but unfortunately with the baggage that is glazer, we cannot afford to pay those big wages.
The only thing we attract best right now is loan interest payments
:’(
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@colver: Spot on mate. For all we know we were never at the races and, frankly, I don’t think there’s anybody left that still believes Gill and his lies. For a team that struggles financially, revealing our transfer targets is a policy that baffles me, particularly when our scouting system is apparently non existent.
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I feel bitter taste about Hazard transfer, Hazard is only young prospect right now but he can be another Ronaldo, It is very difficult to get this kind of talent who can beat defender with dribble.
Rooney need some competition, that is why Fergie look for Hazard I guess, Chelsea is better place for Hazard I guess, basically he compete with aging Lampard for spot, ah well, Chelsea offer more money too so We can’t blame the player for that.
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We need to move on from Hazard, he has made his bed and he will lie in it.
Kagawa seems to be a done deal and rumours are rife about Modric. If we seal both transfers I will be very pleased.
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@Stephen: Knowing Levy, he will royally screw us before we get our hands on Modric but since they are not in the champions league (thursday night, channel five
) this season, we might have a bit of leverage but again we will have to contend with some astronomical wage demands
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@Nelson: I think with what happened last season they may let him go for the right price. Knowing Redknapp, he would probably want Berba back in return, hey we could even throw in an over weight Brazilian…
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@Stephen: @Stephen: Nobody wants that Brazilian. I expect him to go back to Brazil or Portugal on loan.
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@Nelson: Probably BS, but have heard from 3/4 mates now who are arsenal fans, that word going round is wenger is apparently thinking of making a move for our fat brazilian maestro
We all know wenger has been slipping these past few years, but if this is true then man i want to know what wenger has been smoking
BS im sure, but just found it rather amusing when i heard it, and yet slightly depressing at the same time, as i know in my heart hes going nowhere, and its probably only a matter of time before we hear the inevitable from fergie:
“There is no one out there better than what weve already got. Weve got so many young exciting players, in particular anderson. Ando is going to play a big part for us this season”
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@tonymontanna4united: Arsene bought Silvestre so I can’t rule out that theory. I for one would like to know what he smokes coz somehow it helps him cheat arsenal fans time and time again without fail
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@tonymontanna4united:
I had forgotten all about our samba magicians assistant. Anderson the Debbie McGee of football
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@Nelson:
Agree, our track record of doing business with spurs is poor to say the least. We got screwed for both Carrick and Berbatov.
Come to think of it Teddy cost a pretty penny when you consider the cost of players at the time and his age
He was worth is weight in gold though, Barcalona, the fa cup final and putting that **** chef on his backside during soccer aid
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@RedEyes: yup. it’s unfortunate berba’s move didn’t work out that well but at least his goals helped us to a league title no matter how in/significant anyone here wants to judge them
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@Nelson:
Dont get me wrong I think Berba is an amazing footballer. It is such a shame it has not worked out for him. He has never moaned in the papers and has been a true professioanl. The point I was making is that Spurs usualy squeeze every last penny they can out of us, while dragging a situation on and on.
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@RedEyes: I know. I was just looking at imports from tottenham and how they faired at united
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@Stephen:
“he has made his bed and he will lie in it.”
I am told a matress filled with a russians £50 notes is great for your posture
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I don’t think there’s any chance of us getting Modric. It was on City’s radar too and we know how things end up when the arabs roll out their money mate. We are simply not that much of a pull for modern footballers unfortunately. Money talks.
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@Daniele: I disagree, if we wanted to sign Modric we could, United are still a big lure. If we were up against City it would be up to the player, they already have stacks of options, we have Scholes and Carrick.
United would be a good option for him, to say money plays a big part then that is true, to say we are not a big pull is wrong.
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@Stephen:
sorry Stephen – think Dans right on this one. We’re not a massive pull for footballers from these clubs when against big teams. Fair enough if we’re up against the Juventus’, Ajax’s, Newcastle’s and Liverpool’s of the world. But against London teams we’re against Living in London which is so fashionable and a real lure for foreigners. Against European teams Ur often talking about ‘Milan’, ‘Barcelona’, ‘Madrid’, ‘Munich’ who all pay substantially more in wages than we do, and often in countries with TAX breaks, and in many cases have just as much footballing history. Finacially we’re definitely on that second or even third rung globally.
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@JonyB: We will always struggle against Chelsea and City for the Johnny Foreigner, who only sings for a club for the money. We hardly ever go for the bog name player, we as a club have always gone for youth an potential. When we signed Berba it was rare to sign a player at the age of 27, this is simply not our policy. So keep saying we don’t buy big names is not really us, we make stars, we don’t buy the finished article.
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@Stephen: So they can become the next Ronaldo and leave for a dream/rich club? Where have I seen this before? Maybe Arsenal, Barca’s bitch and City’s feeder club.
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@Moscow: That is why Fergie buys as you say “over priced, overrated” English players as they have some loyalty.
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@Stephen: Rooney threatened to leave unless he was given £250k a week. This set a wage ceiling which players like Sneijder demanded but we refused to give.
English players are mostly useless in Europe so I’d rather pay a Johnny Foreigner loads of money than pay an overrated English player loads of money to play for the club.
If you want loyal players who live and breathe United your best hope is to offer the fans playing contracts. Players are professionals who rightly look after their own interests ie. pay and future promises.
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@Moscow: Why do you support an English club if you hate the English and Fergie so much?
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@Stephen:I don’t hate Fergie (the manager side of him anyway) and I’m not xenophobic which you have implied more than once. Maybe I just don’t rate English players highly?
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@Moscow: What like Rio, Ashley Young, Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Wayne Rooney, Paul Scholes, Joe Hart and David Beckham, Steven Gerrard, Carrick and Wiltshere, yes all useless and have never produced in Europe, your views on English players speaks for itself.
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@Daniele:
I am beginning to think any player we show an interest in will be on shitys radar. That club disgusts me. Its supporters are repugnant beyond belief. I was at Leeds train station the day after the final game and will post more on this if it is ok with admin to go of topic, but pathetic does not come close
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Go for it.
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@Ian@Ian:
Just a quick note on our bitter neighbours. I am a Manchester lad and know a lot of city fans and for years have put up with the glory hunter jibes. Now I have many stories of bitter blue celebrations from that entertaining yet disappointing Sunday in May. Tales of red obsession where rather than celebrate the good fortune they experienced they would rather attack the most successful club in English football and its glories trophy laden history. But this moment stuck with me the most
Standing outside of Leeds train station the day after they lifted the trophy. I met several large gangs of Yorkshire lads decked out in sky blue. I got talking as I usually do when stood still for more than five minutes and found out the following
Tons of us Leeds fans go to city now, its easy to get tickets. we never fail. we see some good footballers and we get to give it the manc scum. We have met loads of lads from other firms from all over the country who go now. After all we all hate manc scum. That was piss funny the other day mate. One of the best days I ever had that beating those manc ****. And so a song broke out I walked away shaking my head listening to some 20 Leeds fans decked out in sky blue.
The city is yours, The city is yours 10,000 empty seats and load of ABU’s from Leeds are you f****** sure
Just thought I would share that little nugget.
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@RedEyes: it doesn’t surprise me at all mate. Sad, sure, but not surprising. I was at Sunderland and their fans celebrated like they had won the league themselves.
Now, personally, I never had anything against them, good fans, make noise, decent club and an excellent manager but after what happened on the last day of the season i sincerely hope we’ll find ourselves in a position where we could determine they staying up or not.
I’d rather win and being hated then trophyless and liked.
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@Daniele:
I dont think we stand a chnce on Modric. He probably loves living in London and loves money Chelsk$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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It is difficult to accept that we can’t buy big players anymore but as Colver says this is how it is going to be from now on. Our whole squad has been decimated since the 2008 to a largely average team, we have some world class players in Rooney, Vidic, Nani and Valencia.
Kagawa is a great playmaker and should flourish if played in the No 10 role that Rooney occupied last season. This means Rooney must play as a lone striker supported by any two of Valencia, Nani and Young. Since Welbeck and Hernandez cannot play as a lone striker, we should ideally sign someone as back-up to Rooney but we have little money so should instead prioritise the central midfield and LB areas.
However, Ferguson has ruled out signing a holding/defensive midfielder which means all our remaining cash reserves should be focused on prising Modric from Spurs. I don’t think we have enough muscle to do that so perhaps we should loan Sahin from Real or buy him since his price tag is in Ferguson and Gill’s age and price range.
It’s just a bloody shame our fans are not treated to the quality of football that the price of their tickets should demand. A club of our stature should be trumping the likes of Chelsea and City with the firepower of our own revenues. Gutted really especially after the players we were spoilt with the past 2 decades, now we are a bargain basement club.
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@Moscow: Moscow mate i totally second that, although we’re not a ‘bargain basement’ club we’re certainly shopping like one!!!
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@JonyB: Being a bargain basement club doesn’t mean we are not a big club, just that our net spend the past couple of years is smaller than Stoke.
We are well on our way to becoming the new Arsenal, and soon our pulling power will be completely pulverized if this continues.
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Chelsea invest £75 million on Hazard over the next 5 years,
United ‘invested’ £71 million on interest in the last 9 months.
Glazer Out
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Sneijder stated: “If Real Madrid or Barcelona come after [Eriksen], he must leave immediately, because at those two clubs, you can improve yourself – even if you only train and do not play many matches.”
And we want Sneijder… screw him and his corrupt Serie A.
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@Opti: Serie A is just unbelievable, after the consequences of Calciopoli you’d think they wouldn’t even pay ballboys but just when Juve have returned to the top table their manager is under police investigation for bribery and corruption. Just why?
As for Sneijder we didn’t get him because of Ferguson’s arrogance. I don’t think Eriksen needs someone else to tell him to join Barca/Real, if they come knocking he will almost certainly go on his own initiative, joining the illustrious list of midfielders who we haven’t signed.
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@Moscow:
I thought we did not sign him due to Glazers debt
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@RedEyes: If Fergie is to be believed our midfield was good enough anyway and Sneijder would have disrupted the development of Pogba. That logic worked wonders for us last season.
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@Moscow:
The problem with Fergie is his massive guilt, makes him talk bollox as he tries to protect the image of the modern day Manchester united. The same modern day Manchester united he built and almost destroyed in one moment of absolute greed. The words Coolmore mafia and rock of Gibralter spring to mind.
A shame realy apart from that moment of utter madness he had a near perfect record and could have sailed away in to the sunset with a few more cups under his coat a few years ago.
I have to give him respect for sticking around to try and clean his sh*t up
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@RedEyes: If Ferguson had a press conference tomorrow and denounced the Glazers, told Gill to pick sides he could end the ownership. Fergie is unsackable, if the Glazers fired him there would be riots in Manchester, empty stadium you name it, there would be chaos. I imagine Ferguson is quite a rich man by now, so he wouldn’t exactly be taking a financial hit trying to atone for his mistake.
He likes it the way it is, the current setup satisfies his dictatorial style and the Glazer ownership enhance his achievements and mitigate his failures as the fans have a scapegoat. He is a disgusting liar and a coward, who has betrayed his fans (some know and speak out and others suffer in silence) and his principles as a working class Govan socialist and sided with corporate leeches who have deposed of the club’s most valuable fanbase. He has told those same fans to ‘fuck off and support Chelsea’. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out eh, Fergie, you washed up son of a gun.
If the Glazers leave I hope Ferguson follows them so they can reforge their unholy alliance in the US.
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@Moscow:
It is a mater of opinion and I am not hear to argue.
If you trace this mess back. It all comes down to the rock of gibralter, does’nt it?
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@RedEyes: Yes, his precious ego took a hit so he helped facilitate the club’s sale to owners who then came to rape and pillage the club.
How do you know he regrets this? He praises the Glazers even when he can stay silent and choose not to comment. I’m not telling you to conform to my views, just stating what I see day in day out.
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@Moscow:
For a start Ferguson did not facilitate the sale of the club to Glazer. It was a hostile buy out of a PLC company using the “American” financial model of leveraged finance. The catalyst being Fergies greed or ego or a mixture of both. It just depends how you chose to interpret it. Either way the results are the same. You go from a controlling stake holder wiling to invest to one looking to leech
I think Fergies greed took a hit just as much as his ego, but that is a matter of opinion and hardly worth a debate. He is only human and the majority of us are greedy ego maniacs either on the surface or deep down.
It is a sad state when you consider the catalyst for the (possible or probable) decline of the unted empire comes down to horse spunk. I would piss my pants laughing if I was not a united fan. Fuking horse spunk
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100%. His fallout with Magnier & McManus was the beginning of the end and when Fergie (and others) spew out the line ‘no one’s bigger than the club’ it’s the most ironic statement I’ve ever heard. Fergie is now ‘bigger’ than the club.
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@Ian:
I agree 100%. Like my mum always says power corrupts.
I consider it the irony of life. Would we have had our success without the arrogance that Fergie possesses. Personally I think not.
Would we be in a heap of shit thanks to some pots of horse spunk without the arrogance of Fergie. I personally think not.
Mix in the bad luck factor that Glazer got he hands on us thanks to the horse spunk fuk up rather than a Russian billionaire or Arab shake and what can I say. “bloody hell”
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@RedEyes: If we don’t win the league or the Champions league EVERY season we are shit and the manager is senile….
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@Stephen:
Is that your opinion or what you think mine is? Not sure so dont know how to reply
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PSG want Rooney according to one Spanish paper £150 million package and all the arab led free he can fill his noddy car up with. I bet uncle Malc is rubbing his hands together and imagining all the lotto tickets he could buy with that bonanza stash of cash and the ever ginger, never grey, ninja of ginger has signed on for one more year.
Come August after we bring in Kagawa, a new defender and “one for the future”. I predict. If we get 20 games out of ginger, experience, no value and a new buzz phrase. “We only lost on goal difference and that is down to letting in weak goals and Vidic will be back and he is (deep breath, all together now) like a new signing blar blar blar. Darren Fletcher may get of sickness benefits after his latest department for social security health assessment blar blar blar”
Glazer go dig a hole, drop a wooden box in it, climb in and get one of your gimp window licking children, who only came to Manchester because the glass tastes nice. (Why else is the front of OT all glass these days) Anyway Malc Get you gimp kids to fill your living grave in with the dirt, I will happily provide. Before they sell our club to any interested party willing to put right the f*cking mess you made of this once profitable football club.
And then Sir Alex you can take the wife and go on a nice long cruise
That is all, that felt good. (deep breath)
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well. this site isn’t called RedRants for nothing. Some stinging remarks on here. I love this site
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If United really bid such a high amount for Eden,then why can’t we bid the same and get Mario Gotze.More or less same kind of player if not better.
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@Owen: A nice idea mate, but unfortunately that money is now sitting in a bank account somewhere in tampa, waiting to be spent on a rainy rainy day
Looking at our recent transfer activity, the hazard move does fit a pattern we have followed recently.
That being, somewhat coincidently, all our supposed big money offers, have all been for players we had next to no chance of ever getting.
David villa for example. Was he really going to turn down barcelona for ourselves? Did we even need him? Apparently though fergie was quick to tell all and sundry how badly we wanted him and how we offered £35m for him though.
Karim benzema was the same. Was he really going to turn down madrid for us, when he’d spent the whole summer talking about how wonderful the club was. But apparently we made a bid for £40m which was accepted.
Nasri last summer is another example. The money grabbing little so and so was really going to turn down the riches at wastelands for us was he?
Just seems such a coincidence dont it, that all our business these last 3 odd years, has all been about value, and yet our only substantial offers, were all for players we knew full well we were never going to realistically get.
Nice way to try and pull the wool over supporters eyes me thinks, getting them to believe the money is there when infact it isnt.
Hazard is the same i feel.
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@tonymontanna4united:
Have to agree the spin that comes out of united would make the tories proud. Spin, spin, spin all designed to screw another pretty penny out of our supporters. All in the aid of uncle Malcs big fat debt and excessive management fees. How many million did you take last year to erm do fuk all?
Has any one seen a picture of Malcs wife, I hope she is a real pig and we aint paying for him to shag a beauty as well.
I think the big problem with united is they wont/can’t pay the wages. . Last year we paid out fairly big fees on Young DDG and Jones, but I will bet they are all low wage earners. I think Danny Welbeck got a pay rise up to about £40k a week. Not big money for a senior striker at one of Europe’s biggest clubs.
The united model at the moment seems to be if you want to play for us, you will fit our wage structure, we had that problem under the PLC but it seems ten fold now. I think this is where united are taking the biggest kicking in the transfer market and when you look at the income of city and Chelsea it makes it even harder to swallow.
Earn fuck all and get a sugar daddy to pay for you to have all the fun. While we earn a ton of cash, pimp every last elemnt of our tradition to the highest bidder and……………………get shafted by a bearded gimp.
Chelsea invest £75 million on Hazard over the next 5 years,
United ‘invested’ £71 million on interest in the last 9 months.
Thank you Glazer, now do us all a favour and fuck of back to your derelict shopping malls your freakish looking leech and take your butt ugly kids with you. Our window cleaning bills will go up, not having your window licking kids to tongue clean them for us. But we might save £77 million a year so it wont all be bad.
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@RedEyes:
I love your passion mate, and you are so so right.
Havent seen you on here before. Hopefully you’ll be sticking around though.
Anyway we all know there is only way to rid ourselves of these cancerous leeches. Starve them of the money they so crave through any means necessary.
Unfortunately, so long as we keep winning a nice shiny trophy most seasons, such issues seem to be less important to that of success and trophies to alot of fans.
Its sad, but unfortunately thats the scenario we are currently in. Maybe though with city becoming stronger, and fergie retirement on the horizon, the anti glazer movment might soon pick up again.
Not that its ever gone away, but theres been far too much sitting on the fence for too long with a large number of our fans. Maybe when the success dries up that changes? Who knows.
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@tonymontanna4united:
I know what you are saying. I have only set foot in Old Trafford a few times since Glazer took over and that makes me more angry than anything. I have missed some great football. I must add that thanks to the internet I never miss a game.
The reason I have not been to games is that from day one I could see what was going to happen and unfortunately I have been proven to be correct virtually every step of the way. I have respect for the courage of conviction shown by the FC united people and others who have never been near the club since 2005.
The anti Glazer movement or green and gold campaign is as predictable as the Manchester weather. It has its followers, the passionate enlightened few and it has those who moan and groan during the summer transfer window and kick up a fuss when we don’t stick some thing shiny in the cabinet at the end of a season. But if we pick up the league next season and progress in Europe thanks to another Fergie miracle and some magic from a few players. Those same people will feel it ain’t so bad after all.
In recent years united’s success has been one of its biggest problems. A few baron seasons and some mid table mediocrity might rid us of the cancer that is Glazer. But no true united supporter wants to see this of the club they love. Not to mention the fact that once you slide it is so hard to get back up again. Just look at Liverpool for example.
The new money at city also complicates this issue as no united fan (especially us Mancunians) want to put up with the shit that comes from the cake hole of those bitter blues if we do slide in order to cure our cancer.
How ever things turn out I think we are in for a rough ride one way or another. Perhaps this is our price to pay for two decades of pleasure and joy. What goes up must come down. With pleasure comes pain etc.
You are spot on about not putting money in to the club. Starving the leech of money is the only way i see of getting rid of him and his family. But this is like fighting a forest fire with a fire extinguisher. The amount of money invested in united s commercial structure is eye watering and the best marketeers know exactly how to screw a penny out of men woman and children in Manchester, Mumbai, Washington and outer Mongolia. The irony that as a club (like it or not) we are experiencing our true commercial value in order to service a huge debt and pay a family to have effectively purchased us and put is in to such huge debt is depressing. If uniteds commercial value was being reinvested in to stadium development, player retention and recruitment, not to mention the most important, the ability to keep ticket prices at a sensible price. We would be the best run club in Europe, never mind Bayern Munich, we would also be the most successful on the pitch, never mind Barcelona. I believe we would still see a certain CR7 gracing our turf along with other world greats supported by home grown talent playing to the traditional values of Manchester united “football club”
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@RedEyes: Amen to that brother.
I havent stepped foot inside OT since 2010. Was a season ticket holder since the mid 90s, dad was one since the late 60s/early 70s.
50 years plus there of following united between us, and now sadly neither one of us will step foot inside our stadium again until the leeches have been removed.
Its a sacrifice, but its one ive been prepared to make.
I know of many many others, friends/family members who have also done the same, aswell as a few lads on here too.
This club means so much to us, that we’re prepared to make that ultimate sacrifice. If only more were to do the same, we’d have starved the bastards out by now.
Maybe as i said, that will only happen when the success dries up. With fergies retirement on the horizon and a continuous decline on the pitch, maybe thats not too far off now?
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@tonymontanna4united:
Amen to you sir
It is a shame, no more than a shame. A fukin crime that each and every one of us that makes a stand gets replaced by a merchandise buying day tripper. It is clear that Manchester united does not want local supporters or long term football supporters. They want merchandise hungey fan boys. If destroying our home support was not enough they now get to work on our away fans
Our soul was slowly eroding before this leeching twat took over. But he soon set out on a mission to sell what soul we had left to the most merchandise hungry day tripper.
Love united (whats left of it) hate Glazer
It’s good chatting to you man. Got to ask, could you take some times like the 70′s or 80′s if we got our club back
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@RedEyes: Well im only 21 mate, so tbh ive only grown up with the good times.
(obviously there was a hooligan element about those days so not a laughing matter really).
My dad though, has followed this club since the tail end of the busby days through to the present, and has always been telling stories to me about the barren days.
How when we were relegated to the 2nd division, they used to travel in their thousands, and literally take the bloody place over
About the day they went to cardiff, and the troubles they had that day (think that was 74).
He had some great times according to him. The atmosphere was always electric, the football (despite us being relatively unsuccessful) was always the best in the league. We had some of the most exciting players to watch in big norman, frankie stapleton, captain marvel, buchan and of course mcgrath god love him.
Some of the best days of his life apparently.
In answer to your question though mate, would i accept a rather barren spell on the pitch, if it meant returning our club to the people it belongs to. Then i say an almighty yes. Without a seconds thought mate.
I might be one of these “spoilt” fans who have only grown up on the success, but im also a local lad.
I know how important this club is to literally millions upon millions of people (local and abroad).
Its more than a club. Its an institution. A way of life.
The glazers and their greed threaten that.
Quite simply, if it takes a few years of harship for the club to go back to the way it was, then hell yeah id take that.
Short term pain for long term gain at the end of the day mate.
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I’ll be glad to see Rooney as lone striker with Kagaya just behind him. But it means we still need another central midfielder besides Carrick to make up a five man midfield.
I’d love Modric as he would be a total like-for-like replacement for Scholes and amazing in possession. He’s shown he is true quality and is an experienced proven Premiership player so if we are going to make one big signing I’d be happy with Modric.
My only worry is that it would leave us a little lightweight. Despite Ferguson claiming we’ve never gone in for holding midfielders I would feel more comfortable with a defensively solid midfielder who can get stuck in and complement the silky skills of Carrick and Kagaya. Problem is there aren’t so many of those type of players around. But I’d love to poach one of Athletic Bilbao’s midfielders as those guys have great stamina and really know how to press and get stuck in and the prospect of Champions League football would appeal.
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I don’t think anyone can seriously deny that the Glazers are cancerous to this club. Imagine if we had zero debt. We would be able to outspend City using just our reinvested profits.
But the real mistake was going public in the first place. You are always going to have opportunists like the Glazers floating around. But when you are a plc all you need is for the shareholders to ratify a sale and you’ve sold the family silver
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@colver:
I hear you, the PLC float helped fund the stadium development and investment in the squad. and that money contributed to a slice of our success. It’s a funny one. Martin Edwards was a funny one
But you are right if you flash you tits and get your arse out for the boys, you are going to get fukd. It’s just unfortunate that we are taking it in the arse by some bastard that refuses to use any lube.
The PLC float helped fund Martin Edwards and his fantasticly wealthy life style. Martin you greedy, greedy little man. What would Louis be saying. Could you have got even richer had your greedy eyes not lit up for the capitalist PLC beast all those years ago. I guess we will never know. One thing we do know is you sucked down on satan’s mighty cock
Fan ownership is the only way. I look on at Barca with envy
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Mario won’t leave, Dortmund is not exactly spend much on players but they do not keen to make coins from selling players too. Most of their top players allow to leave the club as FA. It is not bluffing, they can keep Kagawa one more season then let him go as a FA but Dortmund already get a replacement of Kagawa so he allow to leave.
|I am pretty sure there is a midfielder who is energetic, comfortable at passing and good at defense. it is Fergie’s job find that one
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Fergie has assumed total control at United which works two ways, both good and bad. You see the Venkys, Abromovic and the Sheiks at City where they hire and fire are will. This makes any side lack continuity eg Chelsea finishing 5th and if Mancini hadn’t won the title I would be surprised if he would have been in charge this season. We have always stuck by our managers in the past even with Sexton and Big Ron, lets not forget “Fergie Out” before Mark Robins saving his bacon against Forrest. He has created a winning culture which was lacking with United for so long, we played good football but won nothing, like Spurs now. The down side is he has too much power, too larger ego, where is is never questioned. Bebe, Tosic, Anderson and many other punts cost millions, but he walks between the raindrops of criticism. The Rock of Gibraltar business seriously cost the club and he rightly or wrongly caused a strain on us all, the John Magnier began the brutal … the 99 questions to United’s board and truthfully most fans wanted the answers. He has surrounded himself with yes man, but he still delivers the trophies which no other manager could do under the same regime. We as fans can either understand this of focus on the negatives, which many do. For me have to realise that the Glazers are going nowhere and we are better off with Fergie with all of his faults, but he has many.
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The major concern now is our midfield.lets 4get abt hazard and pray that sir alex turns attention 2 players like KP Boateng,Kodwo Asamoah,we all aware aware KP Boateng has no cup of nations in january so dat wil be a gud deal.Tiote and Cabaye could also be great signings.kp boat alongside scholes,rooney and welbeck upfront,nani left flank and valencia at de rite flank,jst imagine.am backing sir alex,no crazy transfer fee
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