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		<title>By: RedDevilEddy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-54711&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nino&lt;/a&gt;: Good times... :mrgreen:</description>
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		<title>By: thethreeRs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-55062&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grognard&lt;/a&gt;: Thanks for clearing that up. Your comments often echo what I&#039;m feeling and I lmade an assumption or two too many.
Free speech is something to be guarded and is under threat in many parts of the world. Let&#039;s hope for performances that allow us to express joy rather than worry. I think Arsenal could rip us to shreds at the moment and we could have to play them 3 times in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-55062" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: Thanks for clearing that up. Your comments often echo what I&#8217;m feeling and I lmade an assumption or two too many.<br />
Free speech is something to be guarded and is under threat in many parts of the world. Let&#8217;s hope for performances that allow us to express joy rather than worry. I think Arsenal could rip us to shreds at the moment and we could have to play them 3 times in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-55012&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thethreeRs&lt;/a&gt;: I had a bad experience with a female years ago but she was not a control freak and our break up had nothing to do with that.  I&#039;ve have always been and always be a non conformist in many things.  Although I respect authority figures, I do not like to be told I have to do something or must do something if I honestly doesn&#039;t want to do it.  I wasn&#039;t brought up by hippies, I just hate authority, especially the kind that doesn&#039;t come with a badge.

So your assumption is way off the mark.  Being undermined by a female can do a lot of damage but in my case, rebelling against control freaks is not not an after effect of it.  Sorry but your theory is wrong.  Perhaps I&#039;m just a miserable asshole.  :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-55012" rel="nofollow">thethreeRs</a>: I had a bad experience with a female years ago but she was not a control freak and our break up had nothing to do with that.  I&#8217;ve have always been and always be a non conformist in many things.  Although I respect authority figures, I do not like to be told I have to do something or must do something if I honestly doesn&#8217;t want to do it.  I wasn&#8217;t brought up by hippies, I just hate authority, especially the kind that doesn&#8217;t come with a badge.</p>
<p>So your assumption is way off the mark.  Being undermined by a female can do a lot of damage but in my case, rebelling against control freaks is not not an after effect of it.  Sorry but your theory is wrong.  Perhaps I&#8217;m just a miserable asshole.  <img src='http://redrants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: thethreeRs</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grog, I suspect your added hatred of opinions being policed is your experience at the hands of a female control freak whose agenda had an undermining effect on you. I experienced something very similar and am still very thin-skinned at times. This site is good because most here try to resolve perceived slights and RR runs a tidy ship.
PS    attack attack attack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grog, I suspect your added hatred of opinions being policed is your experience at the hands of a female control freak whose agenda had an undermining effect on you. I experienced something very similar and am still very thin-skinned at times. This site is good because most here try to resolve perceived slights and RR runs a tidy ship.<br />
PS    attack attack attack</p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-54942&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Madschester United&lt;/a&gt;: To be honest I actually prefer the old format for the European Cup.  I really am a believer that only the champions of every league and the defending European champions should be fighting for that trophy.  The idea of letting a third and fourth place team into the competition is repugnant to me.  Also, the idea of having a two leg system with aggregate knockout is more exciting than having divisions where teams play 6 boring as hell games before they move into the knockout round.  It&#039;s too long and too many games and it really hurts teams trying to win in a number of competitions.  Back in the 70&#039;s a team like Ajax or Bayern would play 8 or 9 games in the European Cup, 5 or 6 in their domestic cup and 34 games in a league season.  Between 45 to 50 total games.  Today the teams that go as far as possible can play up to and even exceeding 70 games.  In England you play 38 league games, 6 or 7 league cup games, 7 or 8 FA Cup games and up to 13 games in the Champions league.  Also, lets not forget the Charity Shield, the European Super Cup and 3 or 4 game sin the World Club Cup.  That&#039;s 70 games.  Far too much.
Champions aren&#039;t always the better team when you play that much.  Some times it&#039;s the team that is the deepest and luckiest in avoiding injury that wins.  Not a true marker for greatness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-54942" rel="nofollow">Madschester United</a>: To be honest I actually prefer the old format for the European Cup.  I really am a believer that only the champions of every league and the defending European champions should be fighting for that trophy.  The idea of letting a third and fourth place team into the competition is repugnant to me.  Also, the idea of having a two leg system with aggregate knockout is more exciting than having divisions where teams play 6 boring as hell games before they move into the knockout round.  It&#8217;s too long and too many games and it really hurts teams trying to win in a number of competitions.  Back in the 70&#8217;s a team like Ajax or Bayern would play 8 or 9 games in the European Cup, 5 or 6 in their domestic cup and 34 games in a league season.  Between 45 to 50 total games.  Today the teams that go as far as possible can play up to and even exceeding 70 games.  In England you play 38 league games, 6 or 7 league cup games, 7 or 8 FA Cup games and up to 13 games in the Champions league.  Also, lets not forget the Charity Shield, the European Super Cup and 3 or 4 game sin the World Club Cup.  That&#8217;s 70 games.  Far too much.<br />
Champions aren&#8217;t always the better team when you play that much.  Some times it&#8217;s the team that is the deepest and luckiest in avoiding injury that wins.  Not a true marker for greatness.</p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-54941&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Natzca&lt;/a&gt;: Salary cap is important for the financial well being of all clubs and leagues and for more fairness but it does not ensure a more attractive product.  Rules and point systems have to change to open the game up.  The one change I am not for which has been suggested is making the goals bigger.  I just feel more incentive is needed to force managers to change to more attack oriented tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-54941" rel="nofollow">Natzca</a>: Salary cap is important for the financial well being of all clubs and leagues and for more fairness but it does not ensure a more attractive product.  Rules and point systems have to change to open the game up.  The one change I am not for which has been suggested is making the goals bigger.  I just feel more incentive is needed to force managers to change to more attack oriented tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-54934&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Madschester United&lt;/a&gt;: First off, I disagree about your points regarding basketball.  I played and have Level 3 coaching certification in basketball and I believe with my heart and soul that the game has tremendous emphasis on defense both from an individualistic and team perspective.  Defense wins championships and it still would win in football with my change.

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;1. Defence. It would destroy the concept of defense - why would a manager use more than 2 defenders in a game is he can increase his goal tally by adding more midfielders/attackers?&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

As much as one once to score more goals, the idea of losing a game 5-6 is just as bad as losing it 0-1.  A loss is a loss, but at least if you attack more and stop folding the tent and parking the bus, the chances of winning with style and enterprise increase.

My best example of what I mean is the Bundesliga from the 1970&#039;s.  Go to the following site in Germany  http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=82918
and check out their seasonal archives for those seasons and check out the average scores in games per week.  They will astound you as to the emphasis on offense.  7-4, 6-3. 5-4 were common scores in a league that had the Beckenbauer&#039;s, Mueller&#039;s, Netzer&#039;s, Bonhof&#039;s, Heynckes&#039;s etc.
This was the greatest period in German footballing history and their greatest national teams came form this period.  Did they let defensive and negative tactics dictate to them?  No.  They believed in outscoring the opposition but the teams still believed in defense.  It&#039;s just a great defensive game for a team was limiting the opposition to two or less goals a game, as opposed to a shutout today.  Play with defense in mind but always keep the offense as your primary weapon and emphasis.  I remember thebest goalkeeper I have ever seen Sepp Maier give up seven goals one game at home to Schalke.  Did that make him any less a player?  No, but even good teams could get blitzed on an off night.  Back then teams played a true 4-3-3 and there was no such thing as a defensive midfielder.  Today  many teams use two of them in 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-2-2 formations.  It sucks and it has taken the fun out of the game.

I grew up watching a show called Soccer Made in Germany so my first real exposure to the game was the Bundesliga in the 70&#039;s.  After you have watched that brand of football, everything else that has come since pales in comparison and absolutely stinks in comparison when entertainment value is measured.

Another example I&#039;d like to use is watching the National Hockey League in the 80&#039;s  I was blessed to have been brought up in Edmonton Alberta which was the home of the powerfully awesome Edmonton Oilers of the 80&#039;s which had the 6 best players in the world as well as the greatest in Wayne Gretzky.  Back in the 80&#039;s this team&#039;s style of play and attack oriented play started a revolution of attacking hockey where goals were up 100%.  Scores were 9-5, 8-4 7-3, 6-5 as opposed to the game today where average games are 1-0, 2-1 and 3-2.  Yes defense was not as sophisticated as today 
but the game was faster and much more wide open and highly entertaining.  Yet I would put some of the defensemen and goalies from that period against any of the ones today who give up fewer goals but who see the third of the number of quality chances in a game.  Defense was appreciated but offense was what brought the fans in and made those games exciting.  Defense is for the birds and is for boring scared people.  The game is for the fans and the fans need to get more for their money.  I wished we got 2 or 3 goals a game today.  More like 1 or 2 is the accurate number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-54934" rel="nofollow">Madschester United</a>: First off, I disagree about your points regarding basketball.  I played and have Level 3 coaching certification in basketball and I believe with my heart and soul that the game has tremendous emphasis on defense both from an individualistic and team perspective.  Defense wins championships and it still would win in football with my change.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;1. Defence. It would destroy the concept of defense &#8211; why would a manager use more than 2 defenders in a game is he can increase his goal tally by adding more midfielders/attackers?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>As much as one once to score more goals, the idea of losing a game 5-6 is just as bad as losing it 0-1.  A loss is a loss, but at least if you attack more and stop folding the tent and parking the bus, the chances of winning with style and enterprise increase.</p>
<p>My best example of what I mean is the Bundesliga from the 1970&#8217;s.  Go to the following site in Germany  <a href="http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=82918" rel="nofollow">http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=82918</a><br />
and check out their seasonal archives for those seasons and check out the average scores in games per week.  They will astound you as to the emphasis on offense.  7-4, 6-3. 5-4 were common scores in a league that had the Beckenbauer&#8217;s, Mueller&#8217;s, Netzer&#8217;s, Bonhof&#8217;s, Heynckes&#8217;s etc.<br />
This was the greatest period in German footballing history and their greatest national teams came form this period.  Did they let defensive and negative tactics dictate to them?  No.  They believed in outscoring the opposition but the teams still believed in defense.  It&#8217;s just a great defensive game for a team was limiting the opposition to two or less goals a game, as opposed to a shutout today.  Play with defense in mind but always keep the offense as your primary weapon and emphasis.  I remember thebest goalkeeper I have ever seen Sepp Maier give up seven goals one game at home to Schalke.  Did that make him any less a player?  No, but even good teams could get blitzed on an off night.  Back then teams played a true 4-3-3 and there was no such thing as a defensive midfielder.  Today  many teams use two of them in 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-2-2 formations.  It sucks and it has taken the fun out of the game.</p>
<p>I grew up watching a show called Soccer Made in Germany so my first real exposure to the game was the Bundesliga in the 70&#8217;s.  After you have watched that brand of football, everything else that has come since pales in comparison and absolutely stinks in comparison when entertainment value is measured.</p>
<p>Another example I&#8217;d like to use is watching the National Hockey League in the 80&#8217;s  I was blessed to have been brought up in Edmonton Alberta which was the home of the powerfully awesome Edmonton Oilers of the 80&#8217;s which had the 6 best players in the world as well as the greatest in Wayne Gretzky.  Back in the 80&#8217;s this team&#8217;s style of play and attack oriented play started a revolution of attacking hockey where goals were up 100%.  Scores were 9-5, 8-4 7-3, 6-5 as opposed to the game today where average games are 1-0, 2-1 and 3-2.  Yes defense was not as sophisticated as today<br />
but the game was faster and much more wide open and highly entertaining.  Yet I would put some of the defensemen and goalies from that period against any of the ones today who give up fewer goals but who see the third of the number of quality chances in a game.  Defense was appreciated but offense was what brought the fans in and made those games exciting.  Defense is for the birds and is for boring scared people.  The game is for the fans and the fans need to get more for their money.  I wished we got 2 or 3 goals a game today.  More like 1 or 2 is the accurate number.</p>
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		<title>By: Natzca</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-54942&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Madschester United&lt;/a&gt;: yeh, totally hear ya,
well back to the drawing board..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-54942" rel="nofollow">Madschester United</a>: yeh, totally hear ya,<br />
well back to the drawing board..</p>
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		<title>By: Madschester United</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im off - school is back tomorrow... Goodnite and Go UNITED on Tuesday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im off &#8211; school is back tomorrow&#8230; Goodnite and Go UNITED on Tuesday!</p>
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		<title>By: Madschester United</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-54937&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grognard&lt;/a&gt;: I actually think it is UEFA who have created this mind-set. If it was only the winner of each league that made it to the champions league, I am sure wenger and benitez would have been seriously questioned for their impartial approach to winning the league in the last couple years.

Why should Arsenal worry about not winning the league when in 4th place they secure themselves the riches of ECL.

Changing the rules will also favor the top teams since they have the best attacking players (who are the most expensive players to buy).

If an inferior team is playing for the 0-0 draw, the onus is on the stronger team to find a way around the proverbial bus. Remember, the weaker teams have 10 year plans for achieving success so it is imminent to them to stay in the league until they improve to mid-table, UEFA challengers - and this means get one pt from the big guys is crucial. Forcing them to open up their game would destroy small teams as they would be exposed by the superior opposition. Lastly, why wouldn&#039;t a small team just park the bus even with the new rules. If they open up they lose and get zero pts, if they park the bus they may get zero pts from 0-0 or they may nick a goal in the end and get 3 pts from 1-0. I still have to hear a well formulated &quot;algorithm&quot; for tallying pts that deal with my above pts and avoid destroying small team who cannot afford the firepower up front.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-54935&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Natzca&lt;/a&gt;: You are right about the defense being important part of basketball. What I meant to communicate was that the defensive role of a player is often secondary to their offensive roles in basketball because of the fact that teams need 90+ pts to win a game and the fact that you cannot switch players easily in basketball when the possession changes the team from defense to offense. If MJ was a mediocre offensive player I am not sure he would be as famous as he is now. However, Paulo Maldini is a defensive (and overall football) legend despite severely lacking an offensive aura. Does that make sense at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-54937" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: I actually think it is UEFA who have created this mind-set. If it was only the winner of each league that made it to the champions league, I am sure wenger and benitez would have been seriously questioned for their impartial approach to winning the league in the last couple years.</p>
<p>Why should Arsenal worry about not winning the league when in 4th place they secure themselves the riches of ECL.</p>
<p>Changing the rules will also favor the top teams since they have the best attacking players (who are the most expensive players to buy).</p>
<p>If an inferior team is playing for the 0-0 draw, the onus is on the stronger team to find a way around the proverbial bus. Remember, the weaker teams have 10 year plans for achieving success so it is imminent to them to stay in the league until they improve to mid-table, UEFA challengers &#8211; and this means get one pt from the big guys is crucial. Forcing them to open up their game would destroy small teams as they would be exposed by the superior opposition. Lastly, why wouldn&#8217;t a small team just park the bus even with the new rules. If they open up they lose and get zero pts, if they park the bus they may get zero pts from 0-0 or they may nick a goal in the end and get 3 pts from 1-0. I still have to hear a well formulated &#8220;algorithm&#8221; for tallying pts that deal with my above pts and avoid destroying small team who cannot afford the firepower up front.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-54935" rel="nofollow">Natzca</a>: You are right about the defense being important part of basketball. What I meant to communicate was that the defensive role of a player is often secondary to their offensive roles in basketball because of the fact that teams need 90+ pts to win a game and the fact that you cannot switch players easily in basketball when the possession changes the team from defense to offense. If MJ was a mediocre offensive player I am not sure he would be as famous as he is now. However, Paulo Maldini is a defensive (and overall football) legend despite severely lacking an offensive aura. Does that make sense at all?</p>
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