Jul 24
Irresponsible Media Stir Up Another Storm
Various media outlets, including the Guardian, have run up headlines like ‘Tevez: Let Ronaldo go to Real’ or ‘Ronaldo should be allowed to go to Real – Tevez’.
Here is what the actual quotes look like, in English (considering these have been translated from Spanish, surely):
“It is clear he is a very important player for us but this is a personal decision, which is up to him only. I understand Cristiano. Every footballer wants to pay at Real Madrid. I also think that everyone wants to play for Manchester United but, if what he seeks is something else, that should be respected. I have not talked to him but, when these things happen, neither side feels good.”
Pray, tell me how this is anything but a diplomatic reply to a question that’s been asked ad infinitum throughout the summer? Yes, one must respect a player’s wishes. And United have not slagged Ronaldo for expressing his interests. [They have just respectfully told him that he's going nowhere, at least for now -- but that's besides the point.] I just don’t see where Tevez says United must let Ronaldo go.
Tevez’s quotes are not even remotely earth shattering. They are the usual, ‘this is a personal decision, it’s upto him, club X is a good club but so is my club blah blah … the only way to settle this is by a deathmatch in a cage‘ you get the drift.
If anything, it is surprising to see a diplomatic reply from a player who runs like a terrier on the field (one who also turned up at a Boca Juniors press conference in a Manchester United shirt).
Whilst this sort of word twisting is not particularly new, it is extremely annoying to see a player like Tevez, who has been going about his business quietly, get dragged into a controversy of not his creating.
Mr. Mark Ogden (the man who ran the story on the Guardian), shame on you — and your editor.
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@Stephen: This is one instance where Utd. shouldn’t be playing hardball. Play hardball with Real over Ronaldo, but fork over the 30m for Berba (over the odds or not) and march on to another Treble!
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@ Eric the Red, I agree it is a position which I believe we are desperate to fill and Berbatov is a shoe in for it.
We will drag the transfer out for another two weeks and will end up paying £32m knowing us!!
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Ps how can I get my @s to be in red?
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@Stephen: Hehe! You never knew how to do that till now?!
Anyway you just have to click on the curly arrow beside a commenter’s name (ie the comment you want to respond to) and you automatically get a code pasted on to your comment box, Then simply type your comment as you would. I had explained this earlier in a post. Perhaps you may have missed it.
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@Red Ranter: Cheers!! I am not very good with computers!!
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@wakey: Really! Pro wrestling is not real and staged? I suggest you talk down to your kids like that (if you have any), and not me. I’m no fucking idiot and I don’t need to be lectured to by some moral minority that think they have a greater right to be a fan than me because they prefer to act like a restrained muppet and trained seal. Who are incapable of showing their displeasure over something openly because it’s part of their personality or lack of. You have made far too many generalizations and accusations that are nothing more than insults against me personally and which I feel are nothing more than rude and right wing in nature. Why don’t you go to your next right wing rally and silently praise your leader and leave me to my own devices.
How dare you insinuate that I am not a supporter. I support the team as much and probably even more passionately than you because unlike you, I am willing to defend the team against the actions and terrible behavior of one of it’s players. To say it’s a North American thing just shows how ignorant and closed minded you really are. And you are not in any position to talk to me about employment contracts and the power within them as you have not got the experience and background working with them as I do. You are out of your element so kindly shut the fuck up and move on to something you know about because the business and employment standards of sports or any other enterprise is clearly not your bag. To accuse me of thinking like life is a part of Football Manager just shows me how you bias towards me and obvious dislike is tainting and distorting your way of thinking. I find it funny that I am not the only one that has this view about Ronaldo on this site but I am the only one you attack. I wonder why that is? Possibly because I get under you politically correct Dudley Doright skin.
One cannot realistically compare the employment of normal and ordinary people with that of sports athletes and celebrities who make multiple millions often in just a short period of time. Yes they have rights too but they also have to honor their commitment which comes in the form of an agreement between them and their employer and signed by both parties as a legal and binding document. Ronaldo knew what he was signing, United has honored in full their part of the agreement up to now. Now he must do the same up to the point his contract expires. If he is unhappy with that, he should have discussed it more carefully with his agent and not signed such a lucrative and long term offer. What about Manchester United’s rights in all this? Do they not have a right to demand that the player who signed the contract must do as they are doing, which is living up to the bargain that was struck? Why is the turmoil and complete rebuilding of a team not an issue if they were to allow Ronaldo to leave? Why must they be put through Hell trying to find a replacement or replacements for a player who out of the blue decided he wants out, well before his contract has expired? I would think that puts United in a very uneasy and stressful dilemma as they have not had enough time to formulate a strategy for the team and enough time to properly go after the right player or players as replacements. Also, what does that do to their financial investment in marketing and merchandising? They have created so many items and services designed around promoting United through the image, name and number of one Cristiano Ronaldo. How do they recoup the millions that are lost in their investment in that arena as well as the millions they will lose in sales?
I don’t much care for this panzy ass attitude some have that players are human beings and they should have freedom to do whatever they want and go wherever they want because they are not slaves and we wouldn’t like it if that was happening to us. Good grief, wake the fuck up already. They are all spoilt millionaires. Some better and more humble and appreciative then others. They have incredible wealth that 99% of the world’s population will never see in their entire lifetimes and they have such enormous power and privilege to lead the kind of lives we only fantasize about. And it is us poor plebs that make that happen for them. So forgive me and understand if I take exception to the rude, selfish and completely disloyal actions of one athlete before you start telling me that I am not a good supporter or that you know better what is right. You sir are a little to full of yourself and you need to control your pleasure and displeasure better and focus those emotions towards football and Manchester United, and not fellow members on RedRants. You are making things awfully personal and I for one will not tolerate your insults and insinuations. You know absolutely nothing about me other than what I choose to divulge on this blog. To make radical and improper accusations or inferences is wrong and incredibly arrogant. If you want to converse with me it is important to treat me fairly and disagree as much as you like, but with respect. And in turn I will do the same to you. Instead of this personality bashing that we are getting in to and that you started. I’m nobody’s bitch.
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@wakey: God that is so closed minded! Why on Earth does a player have to have proven Premier League experience? Do I need to list the hundreds of world class player who have come to england since 1993 without that experience and who ended up having great careers here? Of all the arguments I have heard for not signing players, that has to be the most ridiculous and narrow minded one of all time. I agree that it is better if the player has experience in a top European or South American league but how the Hell is he supposed to get Prem League experience if every bloody manager in the English game thought like that? Totally ridiculous and without a doubt the most absurd statement to be made in a long while. Experience is so overrated. Talent above al is the most required element. If you have the talent and you can cope with pressure, you will do well wherever you go. Experience is a great addition but it is not a required asset. Did Berbatov, Ronaldo, Torres, Adebayor, Fabregas, Santa Cruz, and dozens of other recent additions to the league have EPL experience when they showed up to their present teams? Unbelievable!!!!
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@dan(u-ol): Honestly Dan, I don’t hate Liverpool nearly as much as I have hated Real Madrid and Chelsea over the past five years. Liverpool seem like such a small fry these days I can only look at them and laugh. It’s hard to hate some one you can only laugh at.
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@Grognard: I will always hate Liverpool more than than words can say. In the imortal words of our great leader, his greatest challenge was to “knock Liverpool off their fucking perch” and thankfully they have been sent flying.
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If you go to a game as a supporter of united, then you should not boo ronaldo. OK, siting at home do what ever tickles your fancy but anyone at a match should not even remotely focus their energy on showing your displeasure at ronaldo. You should focus on getting behind the team. Anyone who intends to boo ronaldo at a match because he doesn’t care about united, well then you are showing you don’t care much for the team either. Do you really think hearing the crowd booing a teammate is going to help the other ten players on the park. No. Grognard, scoop was voicing his opinion. He doesn’t think supporters should boo a player, you make a big fuss over people being allowed to voice their opinion so clearly he and others should be allowed to state that they think it is wrong to boo a player. Also, you talk about booing ronaldo to send him a message that supporters are displeased with him, then you say that you will only be booing from your home. Your wish to send a message to ronaldo indicates that it wouyld be your intention to boo him at a match, or that you would be in favour of seeing the crowd boo ronaldo. Saying that you will simply be booing from your own home is very different. Which do you support? Booing your tv screen or actually booing the player himself during a game. I see nothing wrong with sitting at home shouting as much abuse at ronnie as you can manage. That’s fine. The only good that can come from it is personal satisfaction but that’s fine because it is not detrimental to the team in any way. However, during a match, this could only have a negative effect on the team’s performance. All the players would be affected, not just ronaldo. Fans who boo their own team’s players at a match show no consideration for their team or players. They are selfish, thinking not of the team but only of personal satisfaction. To a certain extent, they are just as bad as ronaldo.
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Im not going to cheer for HIM but if he scores im going to cheer for the TEAM. Because for me he is not part of United he’s a hired gun. I will still admire him as a player but I will not respect him or love him.
Grognard booing is a nice idea but surely you know by now how much the kid loves attention. Ignoring him would be a far worse punishment.
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@tevez: I agree and will not boo him myself, but the player must know that his behaviour this summer has been disgraceful. I completly understand that it may distract other players it also may ward off other players from doing the same thing.
It is a difficult situation, as fans we have a right to express our opinions and emotions at games, I as said I will not boo him ever, bit he had better be good when he gets back, if not I can see the crowd really turn on him.
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@Grognard:
Quit with the metaphor bollocks if you were at OT you’d be booing from the stands which is just wrong directed at any player turning out in the red of Man Utd.
Anytime Ive heard boos from other matches with other teams such as Barry for Villa it just sounds bad and I’d like to think we would have a bit more respect than that which obviously you don’t.
I hate defending Ronaldo because his actions over the summer have been terrible but he has been great for us culminating in a fantastic 07/08 season and for me thats enough not to boo the chap.
Seems like you have completely forgotten all that he has done for us. Not singing Ronaldo songs from the stands muted cheers when his name is mentioned or scores and he’ll get the message loud and clear.
Im not telling people what to do as there will be people who will boo him which I really disagree with but thats their decision fair enough.
By the way stop getting your knickers in a twist for peats sake and piss off yourself Im not questioning you loyalty as a Man Utd fan.
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@colver:
Spot on mate one thing Ronaldo would hate is being ignored and not being the centre of attention. It would kill him as opposed to a wave of negative boos which would affect the whole team and atmosphere in OT.
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hi all… i havent blogged on this site in a while, but i have been reading everyone’s comments when i can….
i havent blogged for two reasons… i’m in college right now and its really hectic!! the other has been coz all the conversation seems to revolve around ronaldo…..
those who’ve been here long enough would remember my stand of wanting to sell ronaldo when everyone (including grognard) wanted to keep him… i got some stick for that, but time has proven me wise (for once!!!) and ronaldo’s antics threaten to ruin the great atmosphere that surrounded the club last season (in the dressing room and the stands)…..
i would like to reiterate my desire to see ronaldo sold to protect the team spirit in the squad and build a team around someone who is commited to staying at the club for some length of time, someone like rooney for instance
that said, i wouldn’t like to see united fans booing ronaldo, simply because we should take the high road on this one and not stoop to his, and even worse, real fans’ level (they boo the team and call for managers’ sacking at the first sign of bad form)
i’m not challenging anyone’s loyalty, far from it, i respect those who have shown such hostility to a player (they loved) who has disrespected the club we all adore so much…….
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Groggy: Dude why do you have to waste your time replying to guys like Mr.Wakey(who clearly hasn’t
woke up yet) Well I think we all are supporters of Manchester united and whoever treats the club
the way Jack ass Cr7 has done deserves to rot in hell However who the fuck are these guys to question
us if we want to BOO that piece of shit anyways…I hope we start having better discussions on yhis blog
coz end of the day we all are atrting to turn on each other coz of one prick…
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@scoop: Scoop, sorry mate but you just don’t get it. You cannot and you have no right to tell other people what they should or should not do. Whether I am wrong or not, it is my decision to boo this player and I have weighed the consequences and examined the situation very carefully. Yes Ronaldo has done a lot for us but I am not easily seduced by that and I am not one who tolerates betrayal. I have had a few major betrayals in my personal life and so perhaps I am a bit sensitive when I see people show a lack of loyalty or betrayal towards those who have nurtured and help them grow like Fergie and United, and for those who showed loyalty and adoration by cheering and singing their praises to the player who now turns his back to us all. And who doesn’t even have the courage and manners to come up front and make a formal request for a transfer, but continues to tell family friends and whomever else that’s close to him how he wants to play for Madrid and how United has kept him in bondage slavery. How he keeps avoiding and skirting the question of his future by hiding behind God and nonsense because he is a coward who knows he’s wrong but who doesn’t care because he wants his way.
If you can cheer a player like that, it’s your prerogative and if you notice, I am not condemning you for it. That’s the big difference and that’s why I am pissed off. I may personally not agree with your stance but unlike you, I respect it and I don’t demand you follow my route to satisfaction. I choose to share my feelings on this site not so that people like you can ridicule and degrade me because I don’t share the same beliefs. Respect another fan for his beliefs too. I am not promoting violence or for threats towards the player, I’m just saying that I would boo him if I was one of those at OT. The fact I am not makes my booing a metaphor whether you like it or not because booing across the Atlantic is kind of silly don’t you think? Mine is an inner rage whether you want to accept that or not. When I say he should be booed I mean it, but I am not advocating nor assembling a mob to do so. Therefore, I think you are being very unfair towards me which the motivator that led me to my rude reply.
I don’t like being rude and I want to get on with every member on this site. But nothing gets under my skin more than when others try to tell me how I should act and behave and how I should think, like they have a quota on etiquette and political correctness. You are not my school master and I am not your student so don’t tell me how to behave. I value my freedom of speech and expression so perhaps you can now understand better why I took such offense. And I apologize for telling you to piss off. Regardless of whether I was justified or not, it was wrong on my part and I let my emotions get the better of me. I don’t hold it against you for returning the sentiment as I started it. I hope my feelings on this subject are clearer and we can move past this.
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@Stephen: Liverpool have been of their perch fro twenty years now. I think Fergie made his point. Now I see them as rather sad and pathetic and so I can’t hate them like I hate a true threat to our dominance like Chelsea, Arsenal and a specific Champions League opponent who play by sleazy rules and lack of ethics that I don’t agree with. Liverpool is so yesterday, don’t you think? Perhaps if they actually beat us in a meaningful game then I could reignite my total hatred for them. How can you hate someone who is so beneath you that you risk stepping on them all day long?
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Guys, the idea of this website is for people to express one anothers views, know one is right or wrong, we all support the greatest club in the world and that is all we are entitled to agree on!
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@Grognard: I know it is instilled in ” I HATE LIVERPOOL” it is my DNA nothing I can do about it, always have always will.
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@tevez: You miss the point also. I have no problem with you, Scoop or anybody else who voice their opinion and claim they do not like to boo a player for any reason. FINE! But don’t tell me I can’t. It’s that simple. If you consider it wrong fine, but don’t transfer your moral code on to me because I don’t share it. You are welcome to cheer him to your heart’s content, and I’m not putting you down for it because I don’t share the same feelings. So why can’t others respect my feelings on that and leave me alone. I have no issue with anybody who doesn’t agree with my stance. Just don’t order me to not think that way. What part of that message can’t you and some others get? Jeez this is frustrating. It’s like I am communicating to a bunch of Frenchmen in English.
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I remember reading somewhere off a united fans website of a plan they were encouraging fans to do in the event that ronaldo did stay at the club. Apparently they were telling fans to buy shirts off their website with “best 7″ on the back. Whenever ronaldo scored a goal for united they would turn their backs on him and display the best number 7 to him, to show their displeasure at him whilst showing their love for a true number 7. I personally feel this is a bit stupid as they are turning their back on the entire team, but still. I would personally boo him though.
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@samg: BRAVO mate. Well said. You made your statement and did not become personal in doing so. And I appreciate the fact that you reminded people that at the beginning, I was against selling Ronaldo because like many of you out there, I loved and was loyal to the player and I thought that it was all Real Madrid’s and Marca’s witchcraft that was causing this. Over the period of the EUROS we all learned a lot more of the situation and the character, or should I say lack of character shown by one Cristiano Ronaldo. At that point and especially after he agreed with Septic Bladder on the slavery issue, I took major offense and made a personal stand against a player I loved and adored. He has hurt more than the team’s spirit, he has probably damaged their confidence as well as their faith in him to perform to his best when he returns. Can you imagine how teammates will react now when he is selfish with th ball and his plans don’t work out? They may have sloughed off that kind of on field behavior before, but now, it will piss them off royally.
Well said and correctly said. Others should take note on how to make a statement without offending others with opposite views.
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@scoop: “you’d be booing from the stands which is just wrong directed at any player turning out in the red of Man Utd”
He is only turning out in a United shirt because has to, not that he wants to.
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@manuforlife: Too true mate. Why I let them get under my skin is my cross to bare. Notice though that others like you who share the same sentiment are never attacked or accused like I am. I guess I’m feeling a little persecuted because I think some really feel threatened by me as a person without them really knowing who I am. You are so right about me wasting my time with these people as well, we need to start talking about other topics that don’t involve CR7 because I think he brings out the worst in some of us. It just amazes me how some people turn a blind eye to his antics. That kind of tolerance and patience is not something I posses nor do I want to possess. I just don’t understand it. Ronaldo is wrong on so many levels and he is a traitor. Enough said.
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@Stephen: I can understand you totally. I don’t like them either but I guess I don’t live or feel the history as much as others who are from that region of England and who have dealt with the hatred and fierceness of that bitter rivalry. I understand and it though as I am originally from Edmonton Alberta and that city has a very hated and bitter rivalry with it’s ugly sister to the south Calgary. And as heated as it has become sometimes when our Canadian football and hockey teams meet, I’m sure it pales in comparison to Manchester vs Liverpool
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Grognard you whine for every thing pointed you way. They are just expressing their opinion about your opinion. Whilst i want Ronaldo to get boo’d. I think that all scoop is trying to say is that he doesn’t agree with you and you should’nt do it. HIS NOT FORCING YOU, his merely telling you, you shouldnt boo ronaldo. He never questioned your loyalty or your allegiance. But you off arguing like one baby.
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@Matthew: Players are not all stupid. No United player would think that fans were turning their backs on them as a team. They weren’t born yesterday and they can also read. They know exactly who that statement is directed to. And I for one would welcome it and encourage it id I could with the addition of Cantona7 as well. Can’t forget the King.
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@Stephen: I am with you mate. I loathe Liverpool. No other team comes close to the satisfaction I feel when they win fuck all. I get it from when I started following football in the 80′s and the red shite were walking away with everything. Love it that they are so useless these days.
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@Ishaq(South Africa): Now I’m being called a whining baby. “his merely telling you, you shouldn’t boo ronaldo.”.
Nobody tells me how to act or think. They can express how they act or think, like I do to them. If you can’t get that without making snide little remarks back to me then I can’t be bothered with you.
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@Ishaq(South Africa): Where about in SA are you from? Did you go to any of the games?
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@Grognard: I was brought up in the 80′s when Liverpool dominated the old first division, and it was sole destroying. They played boring football of passing the ball back to the goalkeeper when they were winning, also the press in the UK worship the club, as some sort of simbel of English football which I hate.
We do not get the credit in the UK that we deserve, winning but winning in style. Fergie never said a truer word when he said.
“I can understand why clubs come away from Anfield choking on their own vomit and biting their tongues knowing they have been done by the referee”
They was a saying back then.
Q: What was the Liverpool score?
A: one nil to Liverpool
Q: Who scored the penalty!
Sorry you probably know this but feels great getting off my chest!
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@Stephen: Listen, for what it’s worth know what you mean. I listen to an American footy podcast that some out there may know called World Football Daily. The main host is a devoted Chelsea fan from London and he absolutely hates all things Liverpool. He especially hates their supporters. That has not stopped the legions of Scouse loving morons to call that show. That show gets more Liverpool fans phoning in than all the other teams combined. They are everywhere like a bloody plague. No taste and no class and they are so sad to listen to because of their blind optimism and their constant reference to the distant past. Get over it already.
Even when they were European Champions in the 70′s and 80′s they played shite football and I am still trying to figure out how they won most of those finals. The score 3-1 against Borussia Moenchengladbach in 1977 was so misleading. They get three chances and scored three goals, and credit to them for that but BMG so outclassed them that night but had no luck. They beat FC Bruges 1-0 when any English team could have beaten that Belgian outfit by more. One chance against Real Madrid and it’s a 1-0 victory. They have never one a trophy with style or with domination offensively. They played a negative and very boring style of football and in fact, the reason Kevin Keegan left them to go to Hamburg was because he hated their style of play. He was quoted to have said this to Kicker Magazine (Yes I can speak and read a little German). He went to Germany in 1977 at a time when the Bundesliga was the top league in the world and where the offensive game was emphasized much more. He went on to win two Euro Player of the year awards and really opened up his game. While in England, European dominance continued with boring sides like Nottingham Forest and even Aston Villa winning Euro glory by playing awful and unattractive football. It helped that all these sides had great keepers, because they needed them. All this negative English success abroad was spawned by the success of Liverpool. Thank God Fergie came to the English game and showed an entire nation how the game should be and can be played with success. And the Scousers have been crying and bitching ever since. My heart bleeds for them…..NOT
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Speaking of Socusers, an old one by the name of Alan Hanson has come out in direct support of United and indirect support the Grognard with his take on the Ronaldo situation. Stephen, there may be some hope for some of them yet.
“Liverpool legend Alan Hansen has questioned the character of Cristiano Ronaldo in an exclusive interview with Setanta Sports News, and heaped praise on Manchester United for standing up to the bronzing wantaway. Hansen made 620 league appearances in an illustrious Anfield career that yielded eight league titles and three European Cups. The former Scotland international cannot begin to understand why Ronaldo would want to leave United in the summer after they won the league and European Cup double. And he believes Sir Alex Ferguson will have done football a service if he holds off Real Madrid’s advances this summer. “I only go on what I see in the papers but in the modern age if a player wants to go and someone wants to go they tend to sell them,” Hansen told Setanta Sports News. “But I think Manchester United have done really well with Ronaldo, making a stand and someone had to make a stand. “When I played the contracts were all in favour of the clubs. Now they’re all in favour of the players. It’s too easy for a guy to say he wants to go after signing a contract.
“Whether Ronaldo stays or not we’ll have to wait and see. Man United have made a stand and it’s good a stand has come from the top. “It’s a bad system where you can sign a four-year deal, win the Champions League and win The Premier League and be the best player in the country – and possibly the best player in the world – and still turn around and say you’re unhappy. “Why are you unhappy? You’ve just won the Champions League. You’ve just won The Premier League at a great club. But ‘I’m unhappy, I want to go somewhere else’. “I think there’s something fundamentally wrong with that, there’s a flaw in that system somewhere that people can be allowed to do that and its great Manchester United have taken a stand.”
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http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BF9E570E6%2D407E%2D44BC%2D800F%2D4A3110258114%7D&newsid=6614664
So Sir Alex says that Tevez in fact didnt say anything!
Now since every media outlet had ot say one thing or the other on that, either boss is lying or all of English media is! I tend to give benefit of doubt to SAF (out of loyalty) and believe him rather than the unscrupulous English/European media. It is really a crazy world out there… They are publishing anything and everything!!! Once Fabiano and that Brazilian RB dude were done deals but where are they now? Poor Grog lost at least a couple of litres of his blood sulking about Fabiano joining us! Then it has been every major player in the world being lined up for RM (including, of all people, Eto’o!!!) while they havent signed or even bid for anyone!!! And the media has very successfully alignated the best player at Utd from his fans!!! I dont even understand given so many lies floating all around why do people resort to hating whom we love (just because some idiot at guardian or Mail or Marca or whatever is imagining whatever and writing it as there are no major news in the footy world really these days). But my question is who is the loser in then end? It is Manchester United, the club! The media clearly doesnt like us (it is much more fun bringing down someone who is at the top rather than laud him – a very british thing!!!) so they are doing their bit. The fans have been unsettled clearly to the level that they will boo their own player.
This post is not really about taking sides with anybody but I am really disappointed taht people rather choose to believe any rumors rather than wait for facts. So far the only facts are Ronaldo is on a long term contract with utd, he hasnt asked for a transfer and the club doesnot need and does not want to sell him. unless a new fact emerges till 31st, he is still going to be a utd player. it would make no sense at all if in the end it emerged it was the case of much ado about nothing! In fact I am yet to see a video of Ronaldo expressing any admiration for Real Madrid!!! I searched a lot. Maybe if somebody has one, please share with me.
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Ronaldo should be boo’d, its not gonna help matters and its Manchester Unitd thats important not Ronaldo. We want to win and we need him to be at the top of his game whether we like him or not, we have more class than him so lets not stoop to his level.
The only thing that should be done, which he wil notice, is never sing another Ronaldo song again. He will get the messege.
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Ronaldo should not be boo’d, its not gonna help matters and its Manchester Unitd thats important not Ronaldo. We want to win and we need him to be at the top of his game whether we like him or not, we have more class than him so lets not stoop to his level.
The only thing that should be done, which he wil notice, is never sing another Ronaldo song again. He will get the messege.
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haha the first one was wrong by the way – RONALDO SHOULD NOT BE BOO’D is correct!
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@jos: And to add insult to injury, now some of that crappy media out there is reporting United are looking at Thierry Hnery as a fall back plan if they don’t get Berbatov. What a load of rubbish. It’s enough to make one lose his cookies. Just ridiculous. And yes the media has gone a long way in turning fans like myself into rabid wolves wanting Ronaldo’s blood when in fact, 90% of all this crap is probably nonsense. Quite the world we are living in.
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@Ryan: I think you meant to say SHOULD NOT be boo’d, correct? OOPS! Just noticed you made the correction in a second post.
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I have stopped believing any news about United now, the Media cannot be trusted anymore. I believe in Fergie and the media can kiss my ass from now on. Who cares anymore?
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The media is buggin now.
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Guys! Can anyone please console me? I dont think we are going to buy anyone this summer! Those shit Spurs are not going to let Berbatov come to us! And if he goes i dont think who will come! It just has been a frustrating summer! With the His Highness (THE SLAVE) and all! Seriously i am getting worried for the next season! Because now teams will know us inside out! And WE DESPERATELY NEED A PLAN B! Because! Umm please refer to the city derby at OT! Seriously if anyone can help me i would be grateful!
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@Grognard: I know exactly what you meant mate. Just because someone says fans ‘should not’ boo a player doesn’t mean they are actually trying to dictate your actions. They are voicing their opinion. In my opinion fans should not boo a player. That is my opinion and it is one you can disagree with just the same as any other statement. I am not demanding that you not boo him. That is entirely up to you. I am not telling you how to think, i am telling you what i think. I stand by what i said. Supporters at a match should not boo ronaldo (only in my opinion) and it doesn’t matter what folk at home do. That’s how i feel a supporter should act, but i’m not going to demand it from anyone.
Also, you talk about ronaldo showing no loyalty to the team or fergie and about how he should honour a contract he only just signed a year ago. Well, hargreaves is one of your favourite players i believe and yet when we came in for him he decided he wanted to leave bayern, despite the fact he still had something like three years left of his contract, a contract which i believe he had only extended six months before then. We can’t have it both ways. No united fan has any problem with hargreaves, but it seems everyone has a problem with ronaldo.
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@Red Diablo: Join the club mate. I feel your pain. But lets keep a little optimism. Fergie may come through for us before it’s all said and done.
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So much for the Tevez bashing on this thread.
Have a bit of sense lads.
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@tevez: Harbgreaves was with Bayern since the age of 16. Thats over ten years with one club. At no time did he ever ask to be transferred until his boyhood team made a BID to buy him. At that point he said sure, why not. I’d love to finally play in England after ten years in Germany. He did not demand to to be transferred, he kindly asked Bayern if he could go. Bayern understood his request and actually commended him for his many years of loyal service. They were just unwilling to let him go at such short notice as they never felt confident that they could replace him before the 2006/07 season began. A year passed, they had time to prepare and Hargo played his usual professional way with the club until he got his injury. So I am sorry if I do not see things the same way. As you must know by now, I am a big Bayern Munich fan as well and so if I say there was no problem other than the shit storm the media conjured up, believe me. Bayern have no animosity or hard feelings towards United and in fact both Rummenigge and Beckenbauer have come out and criticized both Real Madrid and Ronaldo for this latest scandal.
Also, English is a very precise language of which I consider myself quite proficient in. Therefore I think I know the difference between someone giving his view on a subject and someone telling me I should think in a certain way. Their intention may have been innocent but their language was abrasive and demanding. Anyway, I’m over it now, I suggest you and some others leave it alone and lets start taliking about other things to do with our team, like what’s the deal with getting Berbatov? Are we or aren’t we?
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@Grognard: I see almost no difference. Ronaldo has not demanded a transfer either. If he stays, i’m sure he will also continue to play his usual game too. Ronaldo hasn’t clarified his position publicly, hargreaves publicly stated his desire to leave. I’d say that’s closer to demanding a transfer.
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@Grognard:
No many of those players didn’t, however a good few of them didn’t hit the ground running. As I say to you every time on this issue but which as always you ignore for every player who settles in immediately to the English league theres 3 others who took 6 months plus to find their feet. Now if Saha could be relied on, or Rooney and Tevez weren’t so similar then taking a risk on a none proven striker in this league is worthwhile but Saha cant be relied on and Rooney and Tevez dont offer us the options we need alone. Huntelaar would be an asset for the future but to be so reliant on him settling into the country, club and league and being the player we need immediately is taking one massive risk. If we are going to take a risk on a foreign based player like Huntelaar we need an English based player coming in also so the need for him to be an instant success isnt that great
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@wakey: I see what you are saying, but also any player coming into the club deserves a settling in time. We need to be accommodating of any player who comes in. It’s unfair to expect anyone to come into our side and hit the ground running — even English based players.
And considering our tough early season schedule this year, it’s immaterial who we bring in — we have to get off the blocks.
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