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		<title>By: scoop</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/irresponsible-media-stir-up-another-storm/comment-page-4/#comment-24108</link>
		<dc:creator>scoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies everyone for harping back to a previous point of booing from points 90 – 117. Haven’t got internet at home and this has been my first access to the internet since Friday.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-23983&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grognard&lt;/a&gt;: 
What planet are you on? Youre sorry but I just don’t get it mate I get it totally you’re the one who has missed the point completely!
I voiced an opinion about booing Ronaldo at a football match not the metaphorical rubbish you talk about. I selected your comments and said they were out of order and I disagreed with them as I would anybody who boos Ronaldo. At no point did I tell you what you can and can’t do where the feck did you get that idea from? You can boo him all you like from home, the stands metaphorically or wherever that’s completely your prerogative I just don’t agree with it.
I respectfully acknowledge the opinion of people who want and will boo him I just totally disagree with it and I wish they wouldn’t but if they do thats entirely their decision. Im not going to have the ignorance to come out and tell them to “piss off” and if anyone is over reacting to this it is you!
This is a Man Utd forum where you can express an opinion which is what I did!  

“I value my freedom of speech and expression so perhaps you can now understand better why I took such offense”

No I don’t understand! How did I interfere with your freedom of speech? You want to boo him good for you I don’t agree!
I will agree that Im happy now to move on and leave this behind us now that Ive made my position clear.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-23927&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stephen&lt;/a&gt;: 
Totally agree mate Ronaldo if he is still with us will be turning out in the Red of Utd because he has to and not because he wants to and that is sickening to me. I said from the very start once this saga started gathering momentum that we should sell up and get top dollar for him I mean really stick the financial knife into Real.
It should be an honour for Ronaldo to pull on that no7 Man Utd jersey considering the legends that have adorned it before him and not be wishing he was playing for another team – fuck that. Thanks Ronaldo but cheerio!
However I still wouldn’t boo the chap for reasons I have already mentioned.

This is like closing the gate once the horse has bolted. These comments should have been made on Friday. Once again sorry for harping back to old news but I still need to get t’internet setup at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies everyone for harping back to a previous point of booing from points 90 – 117. Haven’t got internet at home and this has been my first access to the internet since Friday.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-23983" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>:<br />
What planet are you on? Youre sorry but I just don’t get it mate I get it totally you’re the one who has missed the point completely!<br />
I voiced an opinion about booing Ronaldo at a football match not the metaphorical rubbish you talk about. I selected your comments and said they were out of order and I disagreed with them as I would anybody who boos Ronaldo. At no point did I tell you what you can and can’t do where the feck did you get that idea from? You can boo him all you like from home, the stands metaphorically or wherever that’s completely your prerogative I just don’t agree with it.<br />
I respectfully acknowledge the opinion of people who want and will boo him I just totally disagree with it and I wish they wouldn’t but if they do thats entirely their decision. Im not going to have the ignorance to come out and tell them to “piss off” and if anyone is over reacting to this it is you!<br />
This is a Man Utd forum where you can express an opinion which is what I did!  </p>
<p>“I value my freedom of speech and expression so perhaps you can now understand better why I took such offense”</p>
<p>No I don’t understand! How did I interfere with your freedom of speech? You want to boo him good for you I don’t agree!<br />
I will agree that Im happy now to move on and leave this behind us now that Ive made my position clear.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-23927" rel="nofollow">Stephen</a>:<br />
Totally agree mate Ronaldo if he is still with us will be turning out in the Red of Utd because he has to and not because he wants to and that is sickening to me. I said from the very start once this saga started gathering momentum that we should sell up and get top dollar for him I mean really stick the financial knife into Real.<br />
It should be an honour for Ronaldo to pull on that no7 Man Utd jersey considering the legends that have adorned it before him and not be wishing he was playing for another team – fuck that. Thanks Ronaldo but cheerio!<br />
However I still wouldn’t boo the chap for reasons I have already mentioned.</p>
<p>This is like closing the gate once the horse has bolted. These comments should have been made on Friday. Once again sorry for harping back to old news but I still need to get t’internet setup at home.</p>
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		<title>By: micheal</title>
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		<dc:creator>micheal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can people explain this to me, I am not only getting angered but disturbed at the coverage united have gotten over the summer, instead of the media writing columns on how great united have been winning a great double. all we have heard is how ferguson ronaldo and united have now ruined rooney, rooney has made a big mistake moving to united and still the media even have the nerve having the time to praise wenger has a manager even though he continues to fail, who now seems to be yesterdays manager. We did not hear what the ronaldo situation was it was rammed shoved and forced down our throats.

Remember when arsenal beat an average side 7 0 in November, the amount of columns reports and coverage they got was ridiculous it’s like they won something. if arsenal done what man utd have done over the past couple of years we would not here the end of it. that is a fact because look at the hype arsenal got in their unbeaten season as the media loved to call them the invincible’s, what did they do since they never achieved back to back titles won a european cup and win both the league and european cup in one season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can people explain this to me, I am not only getting angered but disturbed at the coverage united have gotten over the summer, instead of the media writing columns on how great united have been winning a great double. all we have heard is how ferguson ronaldo and united have now ruined rooney, rooney has made a big mistake moving to united and still the media even have the nerve having the time to praise wenger has a manager even though he continues to fail, who now seems to be yesterdays manager. We did not hear what the ronaldo situation was it was rammed shoved and forced down our throats.</p>
<p>Remember when arsenal beat an average side 7 0 in November, the amount of columns reports and coverage they got was ridiculous it’s like they won something. if arsenal done what man utd have done over the past couple of years we would not here the end of it. that is a fact because look at the hype arsenal got in their unbeaten season as the media loved to call them the invincible’s, what did they do since they never achieved back to back titles won a european cup and win both the league and european cup in one season.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Diablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Diablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24069&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grognard&lt;/a&gt;: NICE :razz:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-24069" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: NICE <img src='http://redrants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24054&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Red Diablo&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;m in Vancouver Canada.  Probably as far as you can get from Pakistan.  But we have a rather large Pakistani community within the city so I guess I&#039;m closer than I think.   :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-24054" rel="nofollow">Red Diablo</a>: I&#8217;m in Vancouver Canada.  Probably as far as you can get from Pakistan.  But we have a rather large Pakistani community within the city so I guess I&#8217;m closer than I think.   <img src='http://redrants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Red Diablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Diablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24024&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grognard&lt;/a&gt;: Hey OK! Thank you! Grognard and Tomas for the maximum possible indebt analysis that you could give! Anyway i guess my heart has lightened up a bit! Oh and to Grognard! Yeah i live in pakistan! So if u are in UK then that is a 5 hours difference!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-24024" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: Hey OK! Thank you! Grognard and Tomas for the maximum possible indebt analysis that you could give! Anyway i guess my heart has lightened up a bit! Oh and to Grognard! Yeah i live in pakistan! So if u are in UK then that is a 5 hours difference!</p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24000&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tomas&lt;/a&gt;: Gosh, I only see my importance as mostly being to people who actually hate my guts.  Do they really count?   :grin:  And I am not as negative as I may come across sometimes.  This Ronaldo thing has got me down no doubt, but other than that, I can only think of two or three..........thousand things that I am negative about.   :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-24000" rel="nofollow">Tomas</a>: Gosh, I only see my importance as mostly being to people who actually hate my guts.  Do they really count?   <img src='http://redrants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' />   And I am not as negative as I may come across sometimes.  This Ronaldo thing has got me down no doubt, but other than that, I can only think of two or three&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.thousand things that I am negative about.   <img src='http://redrants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-23999&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Red Diablo&lt;/a&gt;: Sorry for the late reply but I assume you are posting from a completely opposite time zone as I just woke up.  Problem is that I can&#039;t seem to find the post where you actually ask me a question.  I may be blind or still asleep but I am trying to make sense of your post #171.  Fortunately Tomas saw fit to answer the questions for me and for that I am grateful.  Even if he thinks I may be relied on too much or that some find me far too important, it is appreciated.

First off, no you have not been Grognified (whatever that may actually mean).  Secondly, I can&#039;t add much more to what Tomas said regarding Berbatov.  I agree with his assessment.  I&#039;ll just add that I think Fergie is a sly old fox and he is not one to show his hand openly.  I&#039;m sure he knows something we don&#039;t and so I think there is a reason or plan for his stalling tactics.  Personally I think he has been waiting for Spurs to sell Keane and then buy his replacement.  Levy knows clearly that Berbatov wants out and so there is no way he will be holding on to him.  Problem is that Spurs don&#039;t want to let him go until they have acquired a replacement.  I think Fergie is biding his time until the final hour when Levy will have no choice and when United might actually be able to buy him for a price closer to their bid and not Spurs asking price.  The fact that other teams are interested concerns me but not as much as one might think.  Berbatov wants the Champions League.  AC Milan are not even in the league this season.  In that case staying at Spurs is no different.  Secondly Barcelona already have promised Henry the starting striker role unless of course they are able to sign Adebayor.  I don&#039;t think they are serious about Berbatov.  I think that rumor was started to get Arsenal to get off their duffs and do a deal for Adebayor.  There are no other teams that I can think of with high CL hopes that are in for Berbatov and I think as the season gets closer, Berbatov will crack and end his silence.  He will demand a move to United and Levy, unlike Fergie will buckle to the deamand and sell him.

As for plan B&#039;s I think there are two viable ones.  Forget Falcao in Argentina, he&#039;s not coming.  I don&#039;t think Fergie was ever really interested in Fabiano or Santa Cruz either.  Those were just rumors designed to piss off the Grognard.  I think the next choice will be Huntelaar but I think that Ajax will see the situation for what it is and ay price him out of contention.  It&#039;s too late in the game to now go for Huntelaar in my opinion even though Ajax did secure the rights to his replacement a month ago.  Still, it is possible he could still end up in Man Red and that for me would be a dream come true as you must know.  He has always been my first choice.  The second choice is not so outlandish on further thought.  Thierry Henry will not be happy if by some remote chance Barca do buy Berbatov or Adebayor.  If so, I can see the French legend consider the unthinkable and come to OT.  I think he misses the EPL big tie and I think he still has a little bit left in the tank.  I personally hate his guts but in comparison to my present feelings for Ronaldo, I would consider marrying the guy.  After him I don&#039;t see any options except the obvious ones.  Keep Saha (GOD FORBID) and give a few of the reserves a chance like Campbell or Welbeck.   With Ronaldo out for two months I think that would be catastrophic.  We need a experienced and world class infusion right now, not kids.  Get rid of Saha and promote Campbell to #4 striker, but still get us a true #1 striker.  I think Fergie still has one big move planned and I do believe he will get it.  And that move means Berbatov.

Well there you go.  Fortunately I am long winded enough that I was able to offer up more than I thought I would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-23999" rel="nofollow">Red Diablo</a>: Sorry for the late reply but I assume you are posting from a completely opposite time zone as I just woke up.  Problem is that I can&#8217;t seem to find the post where you actually ask me a question.  I may be blind or still asleep but I am trying to make sense of your post #171.  Fortunately Tomas saw fit to answer the questions for me and for that I am grateful.  Even if he thinks I may be relied on too much or that some find me far too important, it is appreciated.</p>
<p>First off, no you have not been Grognified (whatever that may actually mean).  Secondly, I can&#8217;t add much more to what Tomas said regarding Berbatov.  I agree with his assessment.  I&#8217;ll just add that I think Fergie is a sly old fox and he is not one to show his hand openly.  I&#8217;m sure he knows something we don&#8217;t and so I think there is a reason or plan for his stalling tactics.  Personally I think he has been waiting for Spurs to sell Keane and then buy his replacement.  Levy knows clearly that Berbatov wants out and so there is no way he will be holding on to him.  Problem is that Spurs don&#8217;t want to let him go until they have acquired a replacement.  I think Fergie is biding his time until the final hour when Levy will have no choice and when United might actually be able to buy him for a price closer to their bid and not Spurs asking price.  The fact that other teams are interested concerns me but not as much as one might think.  Berbatov wants the Champions League.  AC Milan are not even in the league this season.  In that case staying at Spurs is no different.  Secondly Barcelona already have promised Henry the starting striker role unless of course they are able to sign Adebayor.  I don&#8217;t think they are serious about Berbatov.  I think that rumor was started to get Arsenal to get off their duffs and do a deal for Adebayor.  There are no other teams that I can think of with high CL hopes that are in for Berbatov and I think as the season gets closer, Berbatov will crack and end his silence.  He will demand a move to United and Levy, unlike Fergie will buckle to the deamand and sell him.</p>
<p>As for plan B&#8217;s I think there are two viable ones.  Forget Falcao in Argentina, he&#8217;s not coming.  I don&#8217;t think Fergie was ever really interested in Fabiano or Santa Cruz either.  Those were just rumors designed to piss off the Grognard.  I think the next choice will be Huntelaar but I think that Ajax will see the situation for what it is and ay price him out of contention.  It&#8217;s too late in the game to now go for Huntelaar in my opinion even though Ajax did secure the rights to his replacement a month ago.  Still, it is possible he could still end up in Man Red and that for me would be a dream come true as you must know.  He has always been my first choice.  The second choice is not so outlandish on further thought.  Thierry Henry will not be happy if by some remote chance Barca do buy Berbatov or Adebayor.  If so, I can see the French legend consider the unthinkable and come to OT.  I think he misses the EPL big tie and I think he still has a little bit left in the tank.  I personally hate his guts but in comparison to my present feelings for Ronaldo, I would consider marrying the guy.  After him I don&#8217;t see any options except the obvious ones.  Keep Saha (GOD FORBID) and give a few of the reserves a chance like Campbell or Welbeck.   With Ronaldo out for two months I think that would be catastrophic.  We need a experienced and world class infusion right now, not kids.  Get rid of Saha and promote Campbell to #4 striker, but still get us a true #1 striker.  I think Fergie still has one big move planned and I do believe he will get it.  And that move means Berbatov.</p>
<p>Well there you go.  Fortunately I am long winded enough that I was able to offer up more than I thought I would.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24003&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Red Diablo&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;m glad - you&#039;ve entered a more positive world than the Grognified ones :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-24003" rel="nofollow">Red Diablo</a>: I&#8217;m glad &#8211; you&#8217;ve entered a more positive world than the Grognified ones <img src='http://redrants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Red Ranter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Ranter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>new post up</description>
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		<title>By: Red Diablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Diablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24002&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tomas&lt;/a&gt;: Ok Thanx Tomas i DO feel alot better! GO MUFC! OH and i would like to announce one more thing! FOLKS! I have been TOMASified!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-24002" rel="nofollow">Tomas</a>: Ok Thanx Tomas i DO feel alot better! GO MUFC! OH and i would like to announce one more thing! FOLKS! I have been TOMASified!</p>
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