Dec 05

Joe Hart to Man Utd?

Okay okay so the title suggests I’m about to reveal I have inside information on what would be an unbelievable scoop but honestly I don’t and I’m not, so please, before you jump down my throat, hear me out and realise this is all hypothetical not another one of the 1,000’s of Manchester United transfer rumours.

There’s been a lot said in recent times regarding the rotation of players at United and how it’s possibly to blame for some of the failings in the season so far, that, despite being top of the table and well ahead of closest rivals Citeh in the goals department; something I hope we’ve learned to concentrate on after last years disappointment.

The rotation of outfield players is one thing, but it would appear many Reds agree that the rotation of keepers is having a hugely adverse effect on the team, you only need to read a handful of the comments on @MUFC_dan87’s latest article which explores this exact topic to know this is true. With Lindegaard and De Gea sharing almost equal playing time thus far in the Premier League, and having remarkably similar (poor) stats to boot (see below), it’s difficult to conclude anything other.

It suggests to me Sir Alex honestly can’t decide who’s the best option or which to field against which opponent, not the greatest position to have got yourself into, after all, he’s spent £17M on de Gea only last year in the knowledge he was nowhere near the finished article and £3.5m on Lindegaard also with a view to the future. If he (SAF) had done that three years ago I could’ve understood, but to still do it despite being unable to convince Edwin van der Sar to stay another year, it was a gamble that doesn’t appear to be paying off.

For me de Gea is looking for a way out back to Spain and Lindegaard has a way to go until he’s United quality.

So where does Joe Hart come in to all this?

Well, I get the feeling all’s not well over at the Emptihad and Joe Hart’s the most likely of all Citeh players to A: be wanted by United, and B: the one player who genuinely looks like he’s in it for the love of the game and the challenge of filling his home full of medals, trophies and personal accolades rather than cash.

Footballers may be many things, but one thing they’re not, is blind.

Who (with the label of England’s best player in your position and without competition) wouldn’t want to give yourself the best possible chance to boast a cabinet similar to (arise Sir) Ryan Giggs – or – who would be prepared to watch on as other teams concentrate on football and success while your success hinges on the likes of Mario Balotelli? Hart strikes me as someone who despises the type of player Citeh are attracting right now and has the desire to become the best….with the best.

In the summer I predicted there was unrest at Citeh and season 12/13 had another ‘Tevez-esque’ fiasco just around the corner. I couldn’t commit to nailing down any one specific player but pointed towards Balotelli, Lescott or Dzeko as the ones to watch for various reasons. The tactical inclusion and subsequent subbing of Dzeko and Tevez last weekend was proof to me that Mancini’s having to work harder than ever to keep his troops restful, satisfied and, more importantly, quiet.

After Citeh’s home defeat to Real Madrid I watched that Joe Hart interview and thought ‘hhhmmmm, I just wonder!’

After listening to Hart’s similar post match comments last night….I thought it again! Maybe it’s Joe Hart who’s about to turn Citeh’s season upside-down?

Apart from one ill thought out prank of flashing a shit-load of twenty pound notes at photographers from a black cab last year, I don’t see Hart doing anything other than being a dedicated professional with maturity just on the horizon. I doubt too he has the patience to stay with a club whose squad is littered with ego’s more interested in bickering and financial gain rather than their own personal trophy haul; especially when its to the detriment of Champions League points.

Roy Keane reckons Hart’s got cocky and he may have a point. Hart’s recent performances have dipped without question compared to the standard he consistently achieved last season, but that doesn’t make him any less of a keeper, it just means there’s something not right and he needs to regain his focus. If that is the case, a move away from Citeh could be just the ticket, and at United there would be no room for cockiness.

I reckon – if United make the right noises, Hart possesses that ruthless, self believing presence & confidence that would allow him to say ‘ya know what, I think I just might’ when offered the chance to jump ship, hop in his 4×4 and make his way the short distance across town to Old Trafford, a place I’m sure he’d make his own in much the same way a certain Mr Schmeichel did.

Whether Citeh would do business with us is a factor I’d rather no broker into this(!), but if they did [because Hart left them with no choice], it would give me great satisfaction and United a great, great keeper to solve what is gradually becoming a worrying situation for us.

Anyway, like I said, it’s all hypothetical BUT…..if it were to happen…..you heard it here first!


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  • Oh my word, you silly red fuck!

    Joe might be good chums with Shrek, but to suggest this is comical. Your piece is filled with irony, “Citeh”, etc. You also mention how Joe doesn’t lust after cash, he wants trophies. Very true that, he’s won 3 at City.

    School projects must be fun when you’ve got the Internet to play with…

  • Always got to laugh at a united fan making fun of the Manchester accent

  • What exactly makes you suggest that De Gea is looking for a way back to Spain? He’s one of the best young talents in the world, and wishing him away in exchange for Joe fucking Hart is kind of sad.
    I really hope your fantasy doesn’t come true. It will be one sad day.

    • @Anon Payn: I don’t want him to go I just get that feeling the Prem’s not where he wants to be. Remember he’s 5yrs Hart’s junior, we could be waiting a long time for him to get up to standard etc, we might not be able to wait that long if the right keeper was on offer.

  • what a load of shit u rag twat

  • Pretty silly story. De Gea will take over Casillas or Valdez’s spot at Madrid or Barca unless he goes on to become a giant at United within 2-3 years or a total flop [read: Roy Carroll, who took Lindegaards spot in Danish League] — both events more likely than Hart joining United.

    De Gea will then be sold at age 26-28 for 40-50 million as the worlds most expensive goalkeeper and United will have to find another decent keeper. Repeat.

    PS: Why are so many Man City rats on this site… it smells!

  • really???lets come up with some serious articles

  • :-D

    Has April Fools Day come early?

    How many more trophies did United win that City last season?

    How many more the season before?

    Smaller club. Simple as that.

    • haha you really want to talk trophy counts? You win 1 league and one FA cup over 2 seasons and think you’re a better club? prop your trophy shelf up against the door to Uniteds Trophy Hall and that will show you who the bigger club is. Now go sit down and shut up. bloody noisy neighbours

      All City need to do to see what’s in there future is look at Chelski cos that’s exactly were you’re heading. Implosion.

  • The thing about stats that I love, is when used in the right context they bring to light unbreakable truth. Last season DeGea was amongst the top keepers in the league in terms of saves, one on ones and blocks. The difference between him and other keepers is, they don’t get to make as many saves. Of the top 10 teams, United faced the most shots. Rotating the keepers makes sense if your plan is to concede as many goals as possible. De Gea is good enough to be playing every game for United. If Joe Hart or Casillas were to be our keepers under these conditions, we’ll all be saying, we need a new keeper. It’s not even that we have poor defenders. Just a poor defensive system. I don’t know why I seem to be the only one making a fuss about it, but the way we play, guarantees that we’ll concede at least 2 goals every match, against any half decent team. Even if our back 5 consisted of Lahm,Hummels,Chiellini and Ramos ahead of Casillas. There’s only one team that plays with all its midfielders advancing. There’s only one team which plays different players and systems every game. Only one team that rotates keepers every month and makes sure that the defence is always changing. How anyone expects to not concede is a most wonderful mystery. People talking about De Gea not having experience. How the hell does a player gain experience except by actually playing. Joe Hart was a nobody until Mancini trusted him with games. If you knew the story of one Iker Casillas we wouldn’t be debating about this. If experience is all that counts, then let’s quit wasting money with things like the Academy. Which to be fair, is a waste of time and money at United

  • “(Hart) has the desire to become the best….with the best.”

    Champions hahahahaha

    Remind me what United won last season?

    “Citeh’s home defeat to Real Madrid”

    Was this in your dreams? City drew 1-1 at the Etihad so get your facts straight fool.

    30,000 empty seats at Old Trafford against Newcastle United this season. Typical rag hypocrite.

  • Hart should join United, he deserves to play for a big club.

  • Probability of next article reading ” Mancini to replace Fergie ” is really high :twisted:

  • In the real world, United is playing in UCL. With Ando out and Clevz just injured, we’re royally short of youth in midfield against City.

    — Scholes-Carrick— midfield??? === SUICIDE!

  • What an awful unprofessional performance. Scholes and Giggs in midfield, Rooney a winger… do we even need to discuss this again? And Clevz getting injured. Awful.

    The ONLY highlights of this game:
    1) Welbeck and Büttner did well today. Our best players
    2) Chicharito wasn’t bad per-se but he had 0 service worth anything and was off-side 2-3 times in non-threatening situtations.
    3) Cluj’s goal was quality but came as a gift from our horrible midfield.
    4) Wooton had a poor spell in 1st half but stayed anonymous (which is good) in 2nd half.
    5) De Gea didn’t help himself today with a horrible clearance.
    6) Changing and chopping formations doesn’t work at any level.

    Did anyone expect better? All-around, sloppy unprofessional performance… and they want add 32 teams at Cluj’s level to Champions League… I may just not watch it then, until knockout round.

    Awful awful awful.

    • @Opti: Just FYI:
      a) We finished as the worst group winner (12 pts) in the Champions despite our easy group.
      b) We had the 5th worst goal difference of all Top 2 UCL groups (+3) despite our easy group.

      Please set us up with Madrid in knockout round… let’s see where our chips fall! :evil: :evil:

  • When your defenders are under assault all game because your midfield is brushed away then you can only try so hard. The midfield is the problem, Yaya Toure to United would have been just as silly a headline but at least it would have made sense for us from a footballing point of view.

    I didn’t watch the game tonight because frankly, the prospect of Giggs, Cleverley, Powell and Welbeck linking up again was just too much. My congratulations to them for a home loss to a Romanian side 15 points off the top of their domestic league!

    • @Moscow: I like watching Powell and Büttner, who wasn’t awful… otherwise it was usual criticism and you end up questioning Fergie’s thinking about using Giggs (and Scholes) despite very poor season. Goal was Scholes’ fault….

    • @Moscow: Moscow you’re a true Red.

      Yes its not nice to see our team play rubbish.

      Scholes and Giggs should just retire now. I used to think Scholes was still ok but he gives the ball away too many times now. He is a full fledged liability now.

      Him and Giggs are nearly 100% useless. They have to go.

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  • Looking ahead of draw, I am happy we’re not 2nd in our group… those winners are harrowing!

    Our toughest opponents would be Porto or Madrid… I can see us beat any other team over two legs.

    Arsenal are in trouble next round unless they get luck with Malaga…

    December 20th, please :-P

  • I only want to know two things
    1) WHY IS rooney playing as a winger ( wtf )
    2) why did rooney play so many minutes? ( be prepared for him not to start on sunday, with defence minded tactics in mind ) :roll:

  • Yeah this article is total BS. We don’t have a keeper issue. Our issue is that our back four is shaky and gets zero help from the midfield.

    De Gea is the better keeper by a country mile and it does nothing for his confidence rotating him every game.

    We could have both of them in goal AT THE SAME TIME and we’d still concede two goals a game

    • You’re contradicting yourself.

      “We don’t have a keeper issue”

      “It does nothing for his confidence rotating him every game”

      Clearly contradictary.

  • Nah, United seriously cant keep playing like this, dead rubber or no, too many shit players in our squad to be honest, I feel sorry for the fans who pay good money to see such dross

  • Really like this article, just to piss off Citeh fans. Yet in the surreal world of this game the points made give the football mind some great imagination. Just look at Tevez, once a red, now blue. Look at Van Persie.

  • Ian, by keeper issue I was referring to the article title which seems to think we should splash out on a new keeper when we have perfectly good keepers

  • Best laugh I’ve had all day. Don’t know why this appeared on the MCFC NewsNow feed though.

  • De Gea is good enough for United, If you actually bothered to look at De Gea’s games instead of out of context statistics then you would see how he has improved in his first year. This time last year Old Trafford gasped everytime a cross came in as we expected De Gea to flop it, now I feel both keepers are level standard at crosses. However De Gea makes saves Lindegarrd couldn’t dream of so how Anders actually starts games is a big a mystery to me as why Ryan Giggs starts in central midfield sometimes. I believe this rotation policy is Fergie telling De Gea to prove himself once and for all the better keeper which he was doing till his tooth operation. Ferguson had the confidence to spend 17 million on De Gea and I trust him more than you so have faith.

  • You stupid, stupid little Rag. Well done on getting this post picked up by News Now, but its not like anyone will ever take a word you write seriously ever again. Prick.

  • Of course a dream is always good, helps you forget the painful reality. But what Utd really need is, no, make that are, a few decent defenders to replace Evans the dud, Evra the mocking bird and Rafael the clown. Then there is this midfield that is a joke. You all saw how even Cluj can make fun of the grand dads and duds. SAF, please stop doing a Wenger and open your eyes. You may not win anything again with this motley crew. This Sunday will go a long way to show what lies ahead. Regardless, go get Fellaini. He may win you the FA Cup at least.

    • @Mike: @John Tring: Gotta love the bitters turning into everything they used to claim to hate. Won one PL last year and an FA Cup the year before and all of a sudden they’re more entitled and have bigger delusions of grandeur than Arsenal/Liverpool fans… Your club is an absolute joke and if the Sheikh’s dart had hit another club it could be anyone else getting high fractions of billions spunked on their team and infrastructure. Pathetic.

  • Absolute stupid bitter red f**k.

    Go and talk more rubbish about how you could have signed Cech before going to Chelsea or how you got rid of Ben Foster who is arguably better than the 2 keepers you have now.

    I love how you have nothing else to do other than fuel a pointless rumour mill. Get used to the fact that were here and going nowhere!

  • Heart needs only ask for a transfer and he’d get one but City won’t do business with United in any way shape or form. Arsenal would be the highest ranking English club they’d be willing to sell to. Nice theory but delusional lol

  • Great stuff. We’ve become used to increasingly desperate pieces from United players before derbies, but now the Gloriati are at it as well.

    Why would…

    “the one player who genuinely looks like he’s in it for the love of the game and the challenge of filling his home full of medals, trophies and personal accolades rather than cash”

    …want to leave the champs for some offshore tax dodgers? Never gonna happen.

    Btw did you see the swamp last night? 71k my fuxcking arse. the glory humters seem to have realised which way the wind’s blwoing even if, no doubt you’re Mancunian, bloggers such as yourself have yet to scurry away from the sinking ship.

    Keep up the good work

  • It's Grim Oop North

    As a realist, any player can be tempted to move to another club, and it usually involves insane piles of cash to make it happen.

    United and City have taken players from all over the world using this tried and tested method, so to completely deny the possibility is blinkered.

    In the individual case of Joe Hart, I think we can safely assume United can’t pay enough to outspend City – they’d need a HUGE transfer fee, and then more than beat his wages, or any improved wages City would then offer – just wouldn’t make good business sense.

    Whether Joe Hart is a loyal Blue, and sticks around for the Silverware surely to follow in the next many years, only he can tell us, the rest is speculation.

    I think United fans (amongst others) overplay the lure of playing for a historically great club, there is the burden of said history that could weigh heavily on a player.

    Perhaps the “project” at City, building a dynasty, carries less expectations, and a chance to make a name for yourself is more attractive to a lot of players – I don’t know, only the player can enlighten us further.

    Recent history tells us the very best players will go to City, Chelsea, PSG, Anzhi etc.. over the established elite like Real, Barca, United and Arsenal, most obviously for money, other reasons who knows???

    Sir Alex does not seem to have the same “pull” on new players as we all thought he once had, the same could be said for Arsene Wenger. Maybe he never did have any influence over and above the wages on offer after all.

    I’m sorry if my opinions cause any offence to United fans, I just believe money talks far more loudly than anything else nowadays, probably always did.

    • The_Philosopher

      @It’s Grim Oop North: I’m a United fan and I appreciate this comment.

      Nice piece mate.

      I love your calm and objective perspective.

      Its insightfull too. I feel like I learned something reading it.

      A sharp contrast to some of the emotionally charged stuff that has come before.

      I just wonder whether you’ll check back here again.

      You’re a gentleman.

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