Aug 09
Man Utd v Chelsea: Community Shield Preview
The summer has whizzed past us, like it always does. Today we have the glorified friendly, the Community Shield. In my mind I haven’t looked at it beyond what it is; a friendly and perhaps an opportunity for fans to grasp at the slim straw of bragging rights going into the season.
Most of you, I’m sure, would recall the shit-hurling contest last year; a nil-nil draw leading to a penalty-shootout and everyone, save for Tevez, were sauntering along trying to feign excitement at the winning goal. Those images are still firmly etched in my mind — don’t ask me why, even I don’t know the answer to that. But it says a lot about how this friendly is viewed by the players. I think.
Ferguson will look to test waters with possibly our first XI — at least for the first half — before he pulls out a couple in view of the most ridiculously timed international friendly in the whole wide universe and of all time. Maybe even before time.
With Brown still recovering from a knock, and Vidic out for a while, it’s possible that Richie de Laet will make another appearance at right back. Rio and Evans will continue in the middle and Evra should take up his customary left back slot. In midfield, I believe Fletcher and Carrick will start, with Valencia on the right and Nani (hopefully) on the left. Up front, we’ll have Rooney and Owen. Thankfully Owen isn’t in Fabio Capello’s England squad for this Holland friendly which is — did I mention? — the most ridiculously timed international friendly in the whole wide universe and of all time.
Chelsea under Ancelotti would be interesting. I was impressed by their performances in pre-season on their US tour. But beyond that, I can’t really say much.
Predictions: I don’t care. I expect a good fluid performance from the side. That is all.
Related items from Red Rants:
- A Mini-Break
- Some NOTW Nonsense + Community Shield Preview
- United* 1-1 Chelsea: First Blood to the Reds
- Porto it is then…
- Anderson talks – puts speculation to bed
Tags: Game Preview
August 9th, 2009 at 9:25
Today prediction : man utd 3 – 1 chelsea
1st goal: 40 yard free kick scored directly by Anderson
2nd goal : A header by Terry on corner
3rd goal : A blinder by Nani from outside the box
4TH GOAL : A sublime finish by ME after receiving a ball from berba in D
August 9th, 2009 at 9:29
I still can’t get my head around the FA arranging a fooking international friendy just as the new season begins? Is the game being played at Wembley because if so it just the FA trying to re-coup the cost of building the place at the cost of the premiership clubs. If they keep this sh*t up they are gonna find themselves in a whole new club vs country row which is not a good situation for either side.
Onto today, I feel we’ll get a good idea how both us and chelsea are setting up for the new season. Both teams will be playing at 50% – 70% so we won’t get the full picture. I feel it could be a repeat of last year going to penalties again which if i’m honest we seriously do not want. Not because it’s penalties but because of the extra playing time. Add that to the forthcoming International and players are going to burn up quicker than a moltov cocktail.
Here’s to a decent game today and fooking great season!!
Come on you REDS!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 10:20
@owen: lol?
I except a tight game, but I hope, I HOPE, Chelsea get shocked over the kind of football United are going to play. Its gonna be fluid, its gonna be fast and its gonna be unpredictable!
Even though its only a friendly, the mind of a football player is to always, even if its training. If Chelski lose, we will have the upper hand mentality wise going into the Championship race. If they win, they will be more confident and have more belief in their ability come our next game.
Team predicition:
Foster
Oshea Rio Vidic Evra
Valencia Fletcher Giggs Park(pliz,pliz,pliz play Nani!)
Rooney Berbatov
COME ON YOU REDS!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 10:22
Worrying fact! In Uniteds 5 games at the new Wembley, all of those have been draws when played 90 minutes. We have lost one in extra time and one on penalties, and we have won three penalty shootouts. Hopeing for an actual win after 90 minutes, would feel better than winning on penalties…
August 9th, 2009 at 10:51
@Footy4Eddy: A good fact, in that last 2 years, and community shield united have been in, have won
August 9th, 2009 at 10:55
The team i want to be played:
Foster
O’shea
Ferdinand
Evans
Fabio/de laet
Valencia
carrick
fletcher
Nani
Rooney/berbatov
Owen
The team i predict will be played:
Foster
O’shea
Ferdinand
Evans
Evra
Valencia
carrick
fletcher
Nani
Rooney
Berbatov
August 9th, 2009 at 10:57
News of the World:
Chelsea on the verge of signing Pato for £45 million (but loaning him back to Milan for a year).
Hargreaves out for at least six months and career possibly going to end
If it is true, it is really bad news. Chelsea are going to get one of the hottest talents in the world. And our midfield remains weak and lacking in quality.
As for the game today, we will get a draw at best. Chelsea have a settled squad unchanged from last season. Our midfield has been woeful in the preseason and a good midfield like Chelsea’s will bulldoze us.
Hopefully it will be a wake up call and Ferguson will rush out and buy a midfielder in time for the new season
August 9th, 2009 at 11:33
@colver: Now SAF knows that Hargo is not coming back THIS SEASON, and lets face it, that is what it will be, he should go out and buy the very best midfield enforcer, and I don’t care how much it costs. Even if Hargo ever does come back, which I very much doubt he will, we still need MORE QUALITY in our MF. Every fuck and his dog, bar Sir Alex knows that
.
August 9th, 2009 at 11:42
Can’t help not sharing in optimism, but I suspect another dull United-Chelsea performance. I Also expect the starting line-up to frustrate the hell out of me. Sad however as I suspect, friendly or not, this would be our most realistic chance for silver-ware this season. I’m hoping I’m wrong, and would gladly apologise to everyone for my early season gloom if I am, but I am not very optimistic about our chances (or team for that matter) this coming season. We have a great squad, but I feel the rotation policy/combinations will frustrate the hell out of us. So, hoping I’m wrong, I predict another 0-0 draw. Let’s just hope Chelsea don’t teach us another footballing lesson because I doubt we learnt from last season’s one from Barca.
My prediction 0-0.
Scorers:
Rooney 1 (customary disallowed goal)
Anderson 1 (from open play…then I wake up)
Lampard 1 (“did it cross the line, or did it not”)
August 9th, 2009 at 11:45
@Craig Mc: I say, desperation or not, take the 80m and bid it on Essien. Better yet, place the bid before the game today.
August 9th, 2009 at 11:51
Ok, mabye 80m might be unralistic, but damn I want him.
August 9th, 2009 at 11:52
I have a funny feeling that SAF is going after Vierra.
August 9th, 2009 at 12:00
Craig’s rating of the Man United midfield
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Fletch – has one really good game IN EVERY three! Does not have REAL pace. Cannot dribble, and does not have excellent ball control. Does have good passing, and his tackling HAS IMPROVED muchly.
Carrick – those gangly legs of his always get in the way, and needs FAR TOO much time to control the ball, gets it stuck between his feet. Seems to do everything in SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW motion. His tackling is average. Has a shot on him, but needs too much time to get balanced, and so blazes his shots off target too often. When he does get it right though, his shots are unstoppable. He is a great passer of the ball.
Give the ball away Giggsy – what more can I say? He loses or concedes possession far too often for my liking. Has good speed, and it is his speed that gets him by players now, and NOT his dribbling ability, which has lost something. Not good out wide anymore either! For all his supposed greatness, doesn’t score enough goals, and doesn’t make enough assists? Errrr just remind me someone – what does he do?
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Scholesy, has the occasional good game, and when on his game, can control the MF like no one else. Given space he can destroy the opposition with long and short passes so accurate that they are like guided missiles. His shooting is woeful mostly these days, and probably due to his balance and skewing of the ball so it goes off target. I don’t think the manufactured new type footballs of today suit Scholesy, and they are nightmares for GK’s.
Gibbo – certainly better in CMF than out on the wing. Not enough games in 1st team yet to really assess his contribution. Has a fantastic SHOT and mostly on target than off I have to say.
Park on his arse – I am not going to say, because you all know what I think. Lets hope he improves this season, and stay on his feet for fuck sake! Has been very useful in some games for us, and is a speedy little GIT at times
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Anderson, son, son, – too laid back for my liking. Nonchalent little GIT a lot of the time. To me, he seemed to have MORE passion and rabid-ness in his first season for us. Sorry about this Eddi my friend, but I don’t think Andi has a real winning mentality. He smiles too much at the most inappropriate times, like every time he blazes the ball over the crossbar, or gives it away to opponents at most dangerous times.
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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If SAF doesn’t buy some FINESSE and power for our MF, I think I will pull my hair out this season
August 9th, 2009 at 12:01
@Craig Mc: Ferguson should buy back Alan Smith.
August 9th, 2009 at 12:10
first off vidic aint playing too the utd fan who thinks he will.second owen will start and score first.chelsea are an old an dirty diving team. can any1 guess how many times drogba will cry 2 the ref or go down rolling around like he got knee capped today emm
August 9th, 2009 at 12:14
@Craig Mc: I agree with most of your views on our midfield, including Andy(
).
Fletcher has improved the last year, but he still only seems useful in the “big games”. In games against the likes of West Ham, Hull and Wigan he doesnt do anything that helps us…
Carrick is spot on, agree with everything.
Giggsy, well what the fuck does he do? He gives our team experience, and according to Fletcher he drives out oppositions from their usual position from the centre of midfield. Which actually can be useful.
Scholesy is a class player on his day, but unortunately those days are over. He has been woeful, and like you said his shot has only become worse and worse with each year. Passing, even in pre-season, was like a watching waterballons being thrown all over the place! No accuracy, and you just aim and hope…
He is done, stick a fork in him.
Gibson has a monster of a shot. Ive seen Lampard hit some screamers, Ive seen Gerrard hit some screamers, Ive seen Scholes hit some screamers… But Gibson has one of the best shots Ive ever seen. Even when the ball is in fast movement he seem to hit the just right! as great balance, tackles well and has good passing. If given more games, he can become a great midfielder for us.
Park sucks!
Anderson can be a laid back “git”, and I agree with most of your assemblences. But that he plays without heart, I disagree. He has the spirit, but as a brasillian he has a different way of showing his love. Its not Keano or Smudge style, but its like Giggsy or even Saha at times. I expect a lot form him this season! Ive not been one to bash him a lot, because my mind tells me this will be his make or break season. If he fucks up, I will thoroughly say he is shit! But if he does well, you shall all look at me as you God!
As for a hard tackling midfielder, its a must! De Rossi and Essien look unavailable, so I say: GET ALAN SMITH FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 12:15
@Karl: Mate
, can’t believe you have so little faith for this season 
. Dont you see the BELIEVE painted all over the arena at OT when you go to the games mate 
. As long as we retain the PL trophy and win the CL trophy in Madrid’s own backyard, I will be happy. All the other games, in the cups, we will be playing THE KIDS again anyway, that’s a fixed thing now, so be prepared for it!
August 9th, 2009 at 12:15
@Dan: I know. Weve beaten Chelsea and Pompey at penalties in the CS, beat Spurs in the CC final and lost to Everton because Fergie let Berba and Rio take penalties…
August 9th, 2009 at 12:18
@Karl: He should buy Alan Smith, Vieira is shit…
August 9th, 2009 at 12:33
@Footy4Eddy: Thanks for what you mentioned about Giggsy mate
. At the end of the day, Giggsy, Scholesy, and Red Nev ARE ABSOLUTE LEGENDS at United for years. Their contribution to entertainment, star attractions and trophies are to be applauded always. I have happy memories, and especially of Red Nev and his sabre rattling and goading of the Anfield scouser GITS at OT and at their place. Go Red Nev – Man United til he dies – same with Giggsy and Scholesy. Not to mention Ole the GREAT Solsky! Anybody notice how good the United reserves are doing pre season – they are turning it on 
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:36
@Footy4Eddy: Why are you so obsessed with Alan Smith – SAF will never bring him back mate – sorry!
August 9th, 2009 at 12:46
If you can’t watch this game on tv you can try Chelsea vs. Manchester United – live streams, they will be available 5 – 10 minutes before match starts.
August 9th, 2009 at 13:09
@Craig Mc: I know, it just irritates my asshair when I think of what wonders Smudge could do for our midfield right now…
Oh well, Im sure we will get a hard tackler sooner or later! All great teams have one, and Im sure Fergie will buy one when he realises Hargreaves is just a ghost and will never return from the dead(saddens me greatly
). De Rossi would be nice! 
No, better than nice, it would be speldid. No wait, it would be exellent! No, it would be so good you could hear my orgasm up there in Newcastle!!! 
August 9th, 2009 at 13:11
@Craig Mc: Ole is a master…
He has done brilliant with the reserves, look what has happend to the likes of Gibson, De Laet, Macheda, Welbeck and Evans after he took over as reserve team coach! Its amazing really, when you consider he has only been there for little over a year… 
Next manager of United? 
August 9th, 2009 at 13:14
Fergie is a happy bun!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 13:23
@Footy4Eddy: Personally, for me, i think he is.
I reckon he could have a Pep guardiola effect on the team.
August 9th, 2009 at 13:27
@Footy4Eddy: That just reminded me of how much amazing it is to win the CL. I want it even more now
August 9th, 2009 at 14:00
I hope Park is not even on the bench…
August 9th, 2009 at 14:04
Hope Owen and Valencia rape Cech’s goal…!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 14:08
Fergie is frothing at the mouth about Macheda, his movement and insight etc etc etc. Says Macheda is giving him a headache with his team selection, because he is so good. To be honest, from what I saw in the Valencia game, and pre season games, Little Micky Owen is the best for getting thru into good shooting positions than Kiko is at present. No team news yet!
August 9th, 2009 at 14:18
Shit! Park starts
August 9th, 2009 at 14:23
Fergie fucks up
Foster
O’shea
Ferdinand
evans
evra
park
Carrick
fletcher
nani
Rooney
Berbatov
I dont normally do this, but i hope park gets a slight knock in training so he cant play in this match, but will be fit for the start of the season. Is this wrong?
August 9th, 2009 at 14:23
Team – Foster, OShea Rio, Evans, Evra Carrick Fletch Nani Park Berba Rooney
August 9th, 2009 at 14:25
Sorry Dan – didn’t realise you had posted team.
August 9th, 2009 at 14:27
Is kick off 3pm or 3.30??? Its usually 3pm!
August 9th, 2009 at 14:28
@Craig Mc: 3pm last time i checked.
August 9th, 2009 at 14:33
Errrr – Isn’t the team today (aside from VDS, Fletch and Ronnie) the same team that cost us heavily in the CL final in Rome. Maybe SAF is saying, you fecked it up in Rome, so get on with trying to put it right. As United/Chelski finals or cup comps are so feckin boring, I am hoping it is decided in the 90 minutes, one way or another!
August 9th, 2009 at 14:33
I just dont get it, chelsea will play through the middle, they’ll play even more centrally then when mourinho was there now, so naturally, we should be looking to spread the ball wide to our wingers. So why have winger that cross to save his life, over a winger that looks like he could potentially be world class?
I know why, and its something thats been bugging me for a while. A few weeks ago, in an interview, fergie said that we were difficult to beat. This got me thinking, hes not playing to win anymore, hes not making a team that will score 5, 6 goals on bottom of the league sides. Hes wants a team thats difficult to beat. Park is playing so their fullback and winger isnt given a lot of space in the final third, making it difficult for them. Hes starting a team difficult to beat, not really starting a team that wants to win.
Thats what i think anyway.
August 9th, 2009 at 14:38
Foster
O’Shea Ferdinand Evans Evra
Park Carrick Fletcher Nani
Rooney Berbatov
Why would you pick that team? Park and O’Shea are DECENT BACKUP. Not plan A! DeLeat earned his place here, and Valencia over Park a thousand times out of a thousand. Bore draw anyone?
August 9th, 2009 at 14:39
@Dan: And that’s why it will be so feckin boring!
August 9th, 2009 at 14:53
Park will score the winner
August 9th, 2009 at 14:56
I’ve got a quid on Nani opening the scoring today with a free kick!
Come on Luis, knock ‘em dead son!
August 9th, 2009 at 14:57
Come On United!
August 9th, 2009 at 14:58
Anybody want to tell me the bright side of having park in the team?
August 9th, 2009 at 15:08
well played Evra! heart in mouth moment!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:09
Why the fuck is saf playing park!!!???? Put nani on the left abd Valencia on the right abd unleash hell. I just don’t get his love for that useless park.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:11
FUCKING HAVE THAT!!!! NANI YOU BEAUTY!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:11
GET IN LIL MAN NANI!!!!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:13
The Lil Man delivers. Craig, control yourself or the GF will get very jealous.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:16
Take that nani haters!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:18
BRILLIANT PLAY BOYS!! unlucky chaps!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:18
Anybody but Park would have scored on that chance. Why the fuck is Park out there?
Jeez, again. Can this MOFO stay on his feet just once?
August 9th, 2009 at 15:19
Cech has kept em in this.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:21
Pleased with this. usually, we are on top and do not convert. thankfully now, we are adressing this problem!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:22
Our buildup is too slow. Park needs to stay wider and stay on his feet and we need to have Berba play deeper than he has. Why De Laet never started over O’Shea is beyond me because he’s just what we need on the right side.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:24
Flether is brilliant
August 9th, 2009 at 15:24
@edwin: I’d also thank Evra and the bar for not having put us behind. Again Foster and the back four are weak on a cross or corner.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:25
Wahey on A Hole!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:27
Unlucky Park.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:27
Jesus Christ I hate PARK. Get out of there. Every time he has the ball he ends up on his ass.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:29
Malouda misses a great chance where we are caught ball watching on a cross again. I’m telling you all, this is a real problem with us and could become a real epidemic before it’s fixed.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:30
I can’t understand how Park gets the nod over Valencia. I don’t buy the “using Valencia’s speed towards the end of the 2nd” argument. He is clearly better and the less time he gets on the pitch the less impact he can make. Park is a decent sub, nothing more.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:30
I have to say about Park he has this wonderful knack for getting into great positions. Off the ball I reckon he is one of the best wingers in the league. It is just a shame that when he gets the ball he either loses it, falls over or misses a sitter.
Evra may be sloppy defensively but he is a joy to watch going forward and really combining well with Nani.
It is hypocritical to ask Berbatov to play deeper. He is playing in the right position. We just need either Fletcher or Carrick to get forward a bit more to link midfield and attack.
Chelsea are rolling over but we seem to have this ability to be all over a team for the first half hour then throw the game away. Once we drop the intensity I have a feeling Chelsea could get back into this match. We will rue not getting a second goal.
Good for Nani getting the goal. Hopefully it will give him the confidence to really stake a claim for a first team place.
O’Shea has actually been pretty good. We are playing him because we have little height in defence so he is there for the set pieces.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:31
Fletch took a tumble there methinks………
August 9th, 2009 at 15:32
goodlink
http://www.p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=3833&link=2
August 9th, 2009 at 15:33
August 9th, 2009 at 15:34
Foster is an absolute nightmare.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:34
Carrick is playing? Could have fooled me. The man is anonymous, again.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:34
Why is it, when bens in goal, he gets the shittiest back passes?
August 9th, 2009 at 15:36
Foster is shit……rather PIG hits the ball in the crowd than this piece of shit
August 9th, 2009 at 15:36
We are exclusively relying on the left side for our attack because Park is incapable of mounting any kind of threat with width. Why we pay 17 million for a player like Valencia and don’t start him in a game like this is beyond me. He could give our attack the balance and unpredictability it needs as well as width.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:37
haha! Foster is gonna be the reason for a few heart-attacks this season! he is just not United class!! this is the third time i am saying it, if we do not buy a GK NOW, it is going to cost us BIG ! Get that old guy James for cheap for an year if required!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:37
I’m a Nani fan, but ffs is he wasn’t brain dead and could figure out WHEN to pass once in awhile he would be a monster.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:38
@godzilla: Wow, so ben foster isnt united class, but david james is
August 9th, 2009 at 15:38
Rent Boys getting back into the game. We should have about 3 by now.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:39
@Grognard: Agreed on the Park sentiments. A good servant to the club, but not up to our standard. Valencia is light years past him.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:39
In a 4-4-2, Berbatov is definitely the weak link. With Nani and Valencia likely on the wings and Rooney upfron, Berba is going to fall short. However skillful he might be he is just too slow for our pace. we need someone faster up front to create problems for the defence. No way Berba is going to cause problems to the defenders.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:40
We have no pace and ball retention capabilities. Park is always on his ass, Foster is a muppet and our inability to mark properly on wide balls is going to be a real sorry mark on our team this year. Please bring on Valencia, Owen and Pig and hopefully Vidic gets well soon.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:41
When Park is continually get skinned what exactly is it he brings to the table? Chelsea are working him right now.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:44
Evra>Essien. I know he plays for my country, but evra’s owned him so far.
really wanna see Nani have another go at Ivanovic.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:44
Chelseas only wide threat is coming from the left. That is why we are playing Park. He can keep Ashley Cole from coming forward and help neutralise the flank. We are murdering Chelsea on the other flank so it is no big deal. Where we are falling short is we are not getting anything through the middle.
As I predicted now that Chelsea have settled down they are getting the better of the play.
Lovely play by Rooney with that little flick to Evra..but was never going to come to anything with too many players surrounding Berbatov. And what a shot from Fletcher!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:44
FUCK ME FLETCHER!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:45
If Evra had a decent, and I’m just saying decent, cross on him he WOULD be the best LB in the game. His crossing is laughable at times. I consistently see better in my Sunday Adult League.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:49
If I’m Ancelotti I tell the team to play wider and make as many crosses as possible in the second half because something has to give. United is too slow on counters and their defending and keeping has been horrible.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:49
HT
Good Half.
Just need to keep our play up
Come On United!
August 9th, 2009 at 15:50
@Dan: Because if they give him a decent back pass, he’s apt to miss it and watch it go into the goal.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:51
Evra was the best player in first half
August 9th, 2009 at 15:51
@godzilla: I hear you mate and totally agree. I’ve been saying the same on here for two years now but nobody is listening to me. Now perhaps they will finally realize the Grognard knows what he’s talking about when it comes to keepers. Foster is crap. If Foster was to play the entire season in goal, I God damned guarantee we’d finish out of the top four.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:53
@Dan: I’d take James in a minute because he is far better these days.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:54
Valencia has got to come on in the second half,
if he does, i can see us scoring another one
August 9th, 2009 at 15:55
@godzilla: You have Chelsea down 1-0 and so now is when you use Owen to play off the shoulder of the defenders when they are pressing to find an equalizer. Not play the languid Berba who gives them little to worry about when it comes to fast counters and pace.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:56
I want the same line up for the 2nd half( may be Foster and Berba out)
Park with his endless energy will be helpful in defending…
August 9th, 2009 at 15:58
EVANS = WORLD CLASS.
August 9th, 2009 at 15:59
@colver: That is why we are playing Park? Are you kidding me? And what has he done about that? Sweet fuck all as at least a half dozen good crosses have come in from that area and how many times have I seen Park cutting in and not even playing wide? Park is not the defensive strength you think he is and that was never more evident than today and in the Champions League final. He is absolutely useless offensively and Valencia could contribute more on one leg and with no eyes. As usual, Fergie has his head up his ass when it comes to team selection. No way to I start Berba over Owen against Chelsea and no way do I start Park or O’Shea over players like Valencia and De Laet.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:00
@Grognard:my thoughts exactly on park, I couldn’t help but wonder how much more potent we would be with Valencia on.
And I’ve been in agreement with you about our keepers for a while. It’s plain to see they simply aren’t good enough.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:01
To be fair (first 45):
Park played well, except for his finishing. Nani was just the other way round!
Berbatov looked sharp in the first 20, then gradually disappeared.
Foster is clearly having nerves. His footwork is supposed to be one of his forte. Maybe after a few games…
Midfield looked good.
Defence was imperious. Evra looked back to his best.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:01
Evra had a good half but he is still found wanting as far as back side protection on crosses. He was badly out jumped on one and was out of position on two others. Still, he looks like he is doing more in attack but he needs to convert those efforts with a telling pass or cross.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:06
@Johnsom33: There are 30 keepers in Germany alone that are better than both Pig and especially Foster. Why we aren’t looking for a keeper in Germany is beyond me. Schmeichel may not have been German but he grew up idolizing two of the great German keepers in Maier and Schumacher and he adopted their physical and intimidating style. Do Foster or Pig look like they have anything remotely resembling intimidation and control of the back four? Foster looks completely Wowed by the situation.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:07
Lovin It Berba!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:09
Oh Christ we’re dead. Beware of the Unibrow.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:12
What fucking position is Park playing today? He’s stuck in the middle and we have no presence on the right side.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:13
Foster is an absolute joke of a keeper. What fucking wanker.
Too timid and too scared to challenge Drogba properly and it leads to a goal because of a half hearted punchout.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:14
the defence without vidic is shit…
we will definately loose today…
August 9th, 2009 at 16:14
Nanis fault that. Foster got it away, nani was just standing there watching caravlho.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:15
@Grognard: No, im sorry, that was nanis fault, he was just staring into space when he should have been marking carvalho.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:15
Nani showed his dark side-ball watching responsible for us giving away that goal. Very cheap goal to give away.
Grognard, in the Champions League final Park had a terrible game just like every single player on the pitch bar Ronaldo. Rooney was equally poor on the other flank.
Other matches last season he was really good defensively (although Id agree he was overused in matches where we needed offense rather than defense). He had a stormer in the semis. I’ve got no problem with using Park in big games. My big problem is with playing Park in run of the mill Premiership matches when we need goals.
With Berbatov we have a serious problem. Im not sure this new role leading the line is going to work out either because he is not getting enough support from midfield and is too slow to break at pace. At least playing deeper he was getting lots of the ball and creating chances.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:15
is really foster a goalkeeper??
August 9th, 2009 at 16:15
1-1
August 9th, 2009 at 16:16
Now Fergie has Berba playing on the right wing and Park in the middle. WTF??????
August 9th, 2009 at 16:18
Bring owen
August 9th, 2009 at 16:19
Oh where oh where can my Ronaldo be
Oh where oh where can he be
August 9th, 2009 at 16:19
@Dan: Nani was sleeping but Foster was also not upto it. A keeper of class wouldve done much better! Besides this goal, just look at his body language. Anyone can make out he is nervous, lacks confidence and every time he is involved i am sure my blood pressure jumps up. There is no way he is the future of england goalkeeping. As Grognard and i have been saying, Foster plays the entire season we will definitely end up 4th of 5th in the league…We desperately need a goalkeeper..i cant believe SAF cannot see it.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:20
Fergie promises a new Berbatov and has realized he is most valuable in the las third of the pitch and so what does he have him do in this game? Play up high and on the right wing. Fergie has totally lost it when it comes to tactics.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:21
@godzilla: Right so because hes nervous he a shit player?
How can that possibly be fosters fault? had he not punched the ball, drogba would have had a free header.
Fact is, carvalho SHOULD have been marked and WASNT!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:23
@ Grognard : will Ballack get place in starting 11 this season???
He is my favourite Chelseaplayer
August 9th, 2009 at 16:23
Looks like nanis shoulder popped out.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:24
Ah Jeez! Now the screen has gone dead. Has it gone dead for you lads too or is this just a Setanta Canada problem?
August 9th, 2009 at 16:24
I think we r going to concede 1 more
August 9th, 2009 at 16:26
Nothing has changed in the way we play from last year. We only don’t have Ronaldo to bail us out of trouble.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:26
@ Grognard : Match is there on sony pix
August 9th, 2009 at 16:27
@Dan: Dan, i said besides the goal. he just isnt a keeper who exudes confidence. being nervous doesnt make him a bad GK, but being nervous is not a good sign. do you feel safe having foster in the goal? at least i dont. I also think he is slow on his feet and not good enough for united’s trophy target. I would have old guy James than Foster anytime in the goal right now.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:29
Park sucks
August 9th, 2009 at 16:31
No class
August 9th, 2009 at 16:32
we r shit
August 9th, 2009 at 16:33
@godzilla: again not Fosters fault, but definitely could have done better to block that shot!!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:33
lol. i clicked on my name. was meant for Dan.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:34
Ballack is scum.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:34
i dont want to say but this is truth that for last 2 seasons it was ronaldo united instead of manchester united
August 9th, 2009 at 16:35
Foster go back to stoke you fucking piece of shit!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:35
@owen: THen fuck off to a different team then
August 9th, 2009 at 16:36
@Taehr: I cant believe this, did you even see the goal? it should never have been allowed. Evra was elbowed right in the face, and nothing!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:36
Ref is shit but foster fuck off FUCK OFF!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:36
calm down guys its a community shield for fuck sake. thats as good as it gets for chelsea.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:38
Referee stops the game because Ballack is winded but doesn’t for a head injury.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:38
but what was the ref doing. 1 minute earlier he stopped play when ballack fell!!! it pisses me off so bad i really dont know what to say!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:38
How does Ballack get away with his nonsense? He is one of the dirtiest players in the game. He may be classy in terms of football pedigree, but he is absolute shite as a person. Where are you Grognard. I want to hear your skills in apologetics.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:39
@Dan: Yea it shouldnt have been allowed but foster is still a fucking piece of shit…cant save a straight shot??Give me a break…
August 9th, 2009 at 16:41
@Taehr: Because there fuck loads of other keepers that could do better
He’ll never get break by any of you on here, no matter what he does.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:41
Thatta boy Evra. This ref has his head up his arse.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:44
While neither goal was directly Foster’s fault, you want a goalkeeper who can pull off stops to keep you in the game. He should have saved that last goal.
We have the same problems as last season: a defence that is prone to sloppiness, and a midfield that gets overrun when it comes up against a good team. Without Ronaldo we cannot get away with these weaknesses. Our defence needs to wake up, Evra needs to remember he is a defender not a winger, and we need to buy a really good midfield enforcer. Even with Ronaldo these weaknesses were going to eventually cost us as the Barca final showed.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:47
ballack is an ahole! hope that prick never wins anything.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:48
Rooney has not a single shot on target
August 9th, 2009 at 16:52
Is Chelsea immune to yellow cards???
August 9th, 2009 at 16:53
GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:53
YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
August 9th, 2009 at 16:53
ROONEYYYYY!!!! Great goal!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:54
owen, famous last words! Rooney saving our bacon!!!!!!!! Offside as hell but great finish, great strength and great pace.
August 9th, 2009 at 16:54
yeeees!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:54
Rooneyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Giggssssssssssssssssssssssss
August 9th, 2009 at 16:54
wayne rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooney 2-2
August 9th, 2009 at 16:54
Cheaters never fucking prosper!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:55
we got a game chelski f***ers
August 9th, 2009 at 16:55
he was not offside
August 9th, 2009 at 16:56
sir alex rippin the refree on the goal lampard scored
August 9th, 2009 at 16:57
Foster, make me eat some of my words now !!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:58
@ebrahim: And he fuckin should!
August 9th, 2009 at 16:59
Fosterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
August 9th, 2009 at 17:00
Berba to miss…
August 9th, 2009 at 17:01
Cech is useless in pk’s but I have no confidence in Foster.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:01
I really dont care that much if we lose the shield on penalties. i just did not want to lose the game. but off course i want to in!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 17:01
Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear. Giggs what was that?
August 9th, 2009 at 17:02
Giggs of all the players!
August 9th, 2009 at 17:02
Ballack is the master of the PK.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:03
@Grognard: Ballack is a cunt.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:03
Evra to miss.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:04
OK it is all over. Why are we getting Evra taking penalties when we have Owen, Rooney, Valencia, Fletcher?
August 9th, 2009 at 17:04
That was an absolutely horrible penalty, pat.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:04
its over…even if its the community shield, why should we not win it !
August 9th, 2009 at 17:04
How a professional footballer misses a pk is beyond me. Put it in the bottom right corner everytime… Evra, again!?!?!?!?!?!?
August 9th, 2009 at 17:05
Why the Hell is Evra even taking a PK. Fergie is an idiot, it’s official.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:05
again the ghost of penaltyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
August 9th, 2009 at 17:06
How could we just roll over after being given such a golden chance to win the game? Those were some seriously half hearted penalties. Way too casual. I feel sick.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:06
We are woeful and sad to watch. The score flattered us and we are going to have a long hard season with very little to cheer over
August 9th, 2009 at 17:08
Evra taking penalty ahead of rooney , owen……………………
hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
August 9th, 2009 at 17:08
Penalty takers were a joke. Fergie went mental when he sent Giggs and Evra as 2 of the first three.
Ballack is the biggest cunt in football. If the ref didn’t see it, then he should be reffing the confrence. If the FA don’t give Ballack the 4 match ban on video evidence then it is a joke. If Rooney had made that Sky would have replayed it over and over with Andy Grey going ‘oh dear Wayne. deary deary me’. Fucking disgrace. We put the ball out every time one of their players went down, and they play on and score. NO CLASS.
Fuck Ballack.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:09
we were good in the first half! i’ll take some positives out of this game. i’m looking forward to this season.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:09
@owen: shut up with your nonsense.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:09
Whty was Owen and Rooney or even Scholes not taking the third penalty? How many times must Evra miss badly before Fergie realizes that our keepers should take one before him? This is a case of poor management and good players not standing up and wanting to take the pressure. I am totally pissed off even if it means very little. It sends a message and it really perks up the confidence of Chelsea for the season.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:11
@Dan: Quoted for truth.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:11
why the f*** is evra taking penalties, he already cost us the audi cup
what was that penalty 
even a 5yr old can kick even better than that 
what are rooney,owen,valencia doing???
August 9th, 2009 at 17:13
@Grognard: Fergie can undoubtedly inspire players better than anyone in the English game, but his decisions at times are scary. I know you get jumped on all the time for calling him out, but you are more than justified. Case in point, picking Evra to take the third penalty. That is shocking, mortifying, and downright insane. Fergie is a legend, but certainly not for his tactics. We are in desperate need of an assistant, a la Querioz, who is tactically astute and can tell Fergie when he is making a dumb choice…(Park over Valencia, continually sticking with Carrick, letting Neville hang around…)
August 9th, 2009 at 17:14
@Grognard: How come Germans never miss penalties? There wasn’t a doubt in my mind when ballack stepped foward. I knew it was in.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:16
@Traverse: Agreed. Chelsea showed no class by playing on. They are swine, vermin, and venereal disease all rolled into one. I know it is gospel to hate Liverpool, but I for one hate the Rent Boys way more.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:18
Yeah the game doesn’t fill me with confidence. We had nothing going on in midfield and barely contained them. Our defence looks very error prone and Foster inspires me with zero confidence. We can play high tempo and scare teams but the moment we drop the tempo we look pedestrian. Our strikers get no service at all and are forced to either go wide or drop deep just to get the ball.
If we want to do well this season we need to read Evra and Nani the riot act telling them what there defensive duties are. We need to buy one or preferably two central midfielders. And we need to buy a new keeper as Edwin’s long term replacement because we need someone who can pull off great stops to get out of jail not just do the bare minimum
August 9th, 2009 at 17:18
@Dan: We will give foster a break when he proves he isn’t shit. He is a midtable keeper at best. And the scary thing is that PIG is even worse than him.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:18
@Johnsom33: They always put it in the corners. Always. None of this down the middle nonsense, or a couple feet off the ground. They ALWAYS put it in the top corner or keep it an inch or two off the ground. As I said before, I can’t’ understand how a pro misses a spot kick.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:19
We played really, really well in the first half. Some of the best football we’ve played years to be honest.
Then came the second half. Foster produced a good save, punching the ball away from drogba. Had players preformed their defensive duties, he wouldnt have conceded.
Then the second goal came, fact is, we should have had a free kick, well before the goal. Evra was down on the ground, nani was being nani and not bothering to track back, meaning it was 3 against 2 at the back. Foster did save the lampard shot, he was unlucky that the goal went in.
Fact is, if that was on the street, ballack would be facing jail time.
Foster later produced a fantastic save to deny drogba, no one bothered to give him credit for it. Says it all in my opinion.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:19
Jeez, some context people. It was still a friendly, up until their second goal anyway. We were absolutely awesome in the first half hour, a very good sign. A bit unlucky with both goals in different ways – the first the ball couldn’t have fallen any kinder for Carvalho, and the second, well it was it was. I’m not a professional referee so I don’t know what they’ve been told to do in those situations, but 100% Chris Foy f*cked it up, simply because he did a different thing in the same situation within 2 minutes of each other.
I don’t blame Lampard for scoring, that’s his job, you play the whistle. You could justifably ask where exactly Carrick and Fletcher were…
Then again you could ask that about Carrick for whole match. He was awful today.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:23
What I don’t understand is why we have this habit of coming out all guns blazing and playing the team off the pitch, failing to take the chances that should put us 2-0 up by half-time, then letting the opposing team back into the game and getting overrun. It happened in the 2008 CL final, the liverpool game last season, the chelsea game in the first half of the season, and now this game.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:24
@I_Bleed_Red: Thank you mate. It’s like there is a hands off policy with many when it comes to criticizing the Gaffer but his tactics in this game were wrong and oh so predictable and his tendency to promise one thing to the fans and then be a coward and go back to what makes him comfortable is still predominant. His penalty kick decision making was horrible. Evra would be my last man taking them behind Foster. Just insane. But you also have to ask the question why Rooney, Owen, Valencia and Scholes were not putting there hand up to take this kick? I don’t blame Evra for having the guts to try. He clearly is not up for it, but then neither was Fergie. This was a major deflater for the team and the fans. Losing is bad enough but to lose to Petr fucking Cech in a penalty shootout is unforgivable. Cech is the worst penalty stopper in the game and the two he stopped today were gifted to him. Man where was EVDS when we needed him. Foster showed how under classed he is. Get rid of him now and buy a good keeper before the season is history. Six weeks without EVDS in goal is all we need to finish out of the top 4.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:25
Christopher J. Foy (born 20 November 1962[1]) is an English football referee. He comes from St Helens, Merseyside
end of.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:27
@Johnsom33: Because they train hard at taking them and because they take the whole process seriously.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:29
What the fuck was that?!
My God, the Ref is a rentboy, not surprised. How the fuck can you guys be so negative about this game when we fucked them over in the first half and could easily have been 3 goals infront after just 20 minutes! Foster was shit, I will admit that. But the defence didnt do its job either. On the first goal, Foster may have been slow off his line but what the fuck could he else do?! Let Drogba head it into an open net. Deary me, it was Drogba vs Evra in the air. No contest, and Nani was ballwatching his ass off!
The second goal… I mean! Fuck teh ref, hang him by his pubic hair, remove each of his 12 hairstraws with a pinsette, shit on him or put him in a bar-fight with Ballack. I guess only the ref needs to be drunk to fight, Ballack is a total shithead and a wanker of dimansion. FACT- Had it not been for a shitty ref we would have won the game. Fuck the FA, and if Ballack lets go with this I will dump a whole lot of shit on him, personally.
And fuck Terry for injuring Nani, just when he was back to his usual brilliant self he dislocates his ancle and is out for at least a month. Fuck Terry, the rentboybluenose can have a wank in his money packing backyard of a dumpster.
And please, enlighten me.
WHY THE FUCK IS EVRA TAKING A PENALTY!!! 
August 9th, 2009 at 17:29
@ Colver – it’s all fitness. Other than like 5 players in the world (I’m looking at you Ji-Sung!), you can’t play at 100% all match. A lot of pro football is about timing your momentum bursts. We came out of the traps well, but were tuckered out early too.
Think it’s more helpful to focus on what we learned:
1. We’re no worse than Chelsea, and they’re really quite good.
2. Nani is a good winger. He was miles better than Valencia when he came on. However, he needs to learn to follow his man al lthe way into the box, not just to the edge. Hope he didn’t break his collarbone, which is what it looked like
3. Foster is nervous, but a good technically. I blame Fergie for the nervousness. It’s the same thing as Fergie did with Howard and Caroll. Pick one, stand by him no matter what and let them grow into the role. I don’t care who you pick now, just pick one. Blaming him for either goal is bullsh*t, btw. Only goal-giving goalkeeping error in that match came from Cech.
4. Carrick was awful. Just terrible, in everything he did. Has he been found out? Does he not work against certain oppoistion formations?
5. Berbatov has to be the single most dangerous looking attacker in world football that you just know won’t score.
6. Evra should have calmed the f*ck down. And no one should have let him take the penalty.
7. We will miss Ronaldo and Tevez. In penalty shoot outs.
8. We played the best team in England and matched them, without Ronaldo and while playing with Ji Sung Park. Some credit is due.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:30
@Dan: Hey mate, lets team up and kick that son of a bitch`s ass!
Wanker deserves to be put in a cage with Ballack. 
August 9th, 2009 at 17:30
Its a game of two halves…
I really should have predicted our second half debacle, we always roll over in the 2nd half after steamrolling the 1st.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:30
Ballack is a cheating German piece of shit.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:31
It wasn’t that bad, apart from the penalty shoot out, which was fucking woeful, but then too many of our players have lost confidence where penalty kicks are concerned. We walloped then in the first half, and missed so many chances YET AGAIN when through on goal. Berba is scared to fucking death of getting into shooting positions and taking any kind of shots on goal. But I will stick my neck out and tell you this, we will finish higher than those Chelsea fuckers in the PL this year. I am certain of that – dead fucking certain!
Ballack is a fucking cheat of the highest order, and the referee Foy coerced him in his dastardly acts. He elbowed and persistently fouled Evra and other United players. Chelsea were NEVER going to lose that penalty shoot out, with Moscow so embedied in their minds. Look at it this way guys, they scored their 2nd goal while 2 United players were lying injured on the ground – Ballack had just got away with feigning injury by going to ground when United had the advantage and FOY stopped play. How Ballack didn’t get his 2nd yellow and therefore a red card sending off is down to the Ref being a cheat as well as Ballack.
I have NEVER known the pro commentators on MUTV to be so incensed with what happened preceding the Chelsea 2nd goal, or that the play was allowed to go on when Ballack had completely fouled Evra. They reckon that the Ref was completely favouring Chelsea, with double standard refereeing, and that United were cheated in a lot of decisions going Chelsea’s way in that game. Why are we surprised eh? I am just surprised that the pros on MUTV are so enraged, because they are usually very laid back and accepting.
Anybody tell me please, if you have the stats, how many United games were LOST when FOY was refereeing, because I will be surprised if it is not a good few!
Come on you reds, you were fucking fantastic in the 1st half, and with a bit more luck, would have been three up before half time. Let all the naysayers go and watch Chel-cheats if you think their behaviour is okay!
August 9th, 2009 at 17:34
@colver: It’s not just that we need a shot stopper as a GK, but a keeper who is positionally strong and who handles balls coming in from in wide. We need a keeper who is a screaming bastard who will get on his teammates for goofing off or or blown duties and we need an intimidator who never allows an opponent position or a free shot. Neuer is the best out there who isn’t tied to his team for life like Buffon and Casillas seem to be. I love Adler too but he is a bit weaker on crosses. Boruc is the screamer and shot stopper that we need but his ability on crosses is iffy sometimes too and Frey seems to have all the qualities as well as Akinfeev. But does Fergie look for any of these guys? NO. Instead he seems to think Foster is the cat’s meow even though he is an inept muppet. Mind boggling
August 9th, 2009 at 17:34
Im so fucking glad bollox didnt join us, dumb cunt.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:35
@Stephen: Couldn’t agree with you more – my sentiments exactly Bro
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August 9th, 2009 at 17:37
@Dan:
, Bollox! I have a feeling Grog is going to be upset with some of our comments, but we are not saying them to hurt Grog, so please understand that Grog Bro. We are just saying it as we saw it.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:37
@Dan: Spare us with you Foster kiss ass session mate. He was total rubbish and the first goal he gave up was totally on him for his poor punch and timid approach in challenging Drogba. Had that been Schmeichel Drogba would have ended up in hospital. Foster is a total ass clown and should be sold yesterday.
It’s totally pathetic that you could sit here on this day after this match and stick up for him. And lets not forget his terrible guessing in the penalty shootout. Yes great penalties were struck but he never came close to any of them. Poor keeping, BOTTOM LINE MATE. 
August 9th, 2009 at 17:38
Foster….
What can I say?
He didn’t really look himself today. He produced a kind of performance we’ve been more accutomed to see from the likes of PIG. Clearly it was a psychologcal thing, but can goalkeepers be allowed mental weakness?
Also the goals we conceded were not entirely his fault – poor marking on the first (maybe Nani, but why was Evra covering centrally? Should have been Rio’s job); and second was a refereeing shocker + classless chelski scum as always.
I’ll pass on this one time, as remember, even VDS was shit a a certain point at the start of last season…
August 9th, 2009 at 17:39
@Stephen: Quoted for truth.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:39
I have never seen so many negative comments, especially during the first half when we totally outplayed them and could’ve got to the half 3 or 4 up. Clearly the aim of being a utd fan is to pick on everything and most of the players and then when we concede a goal you can bleat “i told you so”. Show some support…
August 9th, 2009 at 17:39
Really irritated that we didn’t have a go at Chelsea with Nani AND Valencia. Park should be keeping neither of these off the pitch. Chelsea knew which wing we were going to attack down every time. It was the one Park wasn’t on. This lead to us trying to play through the middle too often (where Chelsea are strongest) or playing ridiculous long balls.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:39
Chelsea are such a dirty team, I hate them even more than Liverpool. Their idea of defending is to knock the people on the ground when they are about to go past you. Ballack did this to evra and carvalho did it to owen, without even getting a yellow card. And regarding ballack; he has minimal talent left , but has compensated it with thuggery of the highest order. The second goal was so injust, but at least it was only a friendly. I can’t express in words how I angry I was when the second goal was allowed. For incidents like these, football needs TV refereeing
August 9th, 2009 at 17:40
Now onto the positives, which I found a lot off.
1. We played probably the currently strongest team in England and matched them in every way. Fuck penalties, only dumb seletion by Fergie fucked us over there. And had it not been for a Scouse ref, we would have won 2-1. We ultimately matched a fully fit Chelsea side, who looked hungry on revenge from Moscow…
2. Nani is back!
The guy is a brillaint winger when on form, and proved that with embarrasing Ivanovic and scoring a cracker! Full of confidence, and even though he fucked it up a few times(our first conceded goal), I am encouraged by his performance today. Again, Chelski fucked us over by injuring him… 
3. We dominated the game in the first 40 minutes. We could have been 3-0 up, but instead Fergie uses Berba as our striker and lets our deadly Micky Owen sit on the bench watching Berba and Park fuck up with some of the biggest chances you can get in these types of games. Team looked in good rythm, and we created some huge chances.
4. Fletcher was immense!
Again, he impresses in a big game. He was everywhere in the first half, doing everything you can possibly ask from him. Just a brilliant performance! 
He fainted in the second half, mostly due to a horrible, absolutely horribel Carrick. Did nothing good of note, and broke up a lot of our counter attacks. Why the fuck he was on the pitch instead of Fletcher when Scholes came on is beyond me!
5. Just our general team effort, the understanding of our players seem exellent! It was ying-yang stuff and we dazzled Chelski. Fletcher was good, Rooney was creating havoc, Nani showed the spark again and Evans was just immense. And I mean IMMENSE!!! This guy is a legend in the making…
August 9th, 2009 at 17:40
@Footy4Eddy: Meet you at 7.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:42
@Craig Mc: I couldn’t care what anyone has to say about Ballack because it’s just sour grapes anyway. I’d be more concerned about what I have to say about ass clown cunts and horribly inept muppets like Foster, Evra and Park. Here we are worrying and feeling upset about Ballack when we should be throwing our wrath at Fergie for a poor tactics and squad selection and terrible pk selections and for the terrible play of the three so called players I mentioned above, not to mention the rest of the muppets who barely showed up and who were outclassed today as I expected them to be. The score was very flattering indeed.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:42
@Grognard: Frey is racist…
August 9th, 2009 at 17:43
@NicoQB: Actually I think Foster looked quite like himself today. He is a useless muppet.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:43
@NicoQB: Good for him. As long as he keeps clean sheets for us he can start up the next Nazi party for all I care.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:44
@Grognard: Right now you are the one looking pathetic. Right poor punch, but why was carvalho left on marked in the middle of the box?
Oh, and poor guessing? do you not see how silly that sounds? How can you have a poor, guess?
FYI, we’ve lost our last 2 penalty shoot outs, the last one we won, ben foster was in goal.
You dont think us losing the penalty shoot out might not have anything to do with the fact we failed to score 2?
August 9th, 2009 at 17:46
@Grognard: You are so predictable, you may as well just not posted that whole comment. We could have just all imagined you’d posted it without seeing it.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:47
@NicoQB: How the fuck did we roll over eh? We fucking fought like tigers to equalise, and they only got their goal because of extreme cheating. I am proud of our lads today, except for their shit penalties. We need to sort out our 1st 5 penalty takers and stick with them! Like Mourinho used to say when Chelski boss, they DID NOT, were not able to beat us in normal play!
Fabio scared the shit with his speed up and down that wing when he came on, and Ashley Cole was well and truly skinned by him a good few times.
I was amazed also in the 1st half, how many blue shirted players surrounded Nani whenever he had the ball. They were scared, and were doubling/tripling up on him at times – Ronaldo fashion
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August 9th, 2009 at 17:49
Seriously, people need to calm the hell down. You’re all lucky you’re United fans, you’d of all offed yourselves if you supported Liverpool!
We played well in a good, attacking game of football. It’s not FIFA, you can’t completely dominate a team like Chelsea over 90 minutes. If we play like this against Hull, then come back and I’ll listen.
My belief with the goalkeeper is as I said above. It’s confidence. Fergie has made his choice, he needs to stick with him. If it doesn’t work then ship him out at Christmas. But stop fannying about with it, it helps no one.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:51
@Grognard: Sour grapes?
If it had been Drogba, Terry, or any one of your own favorite voodoo dolls, we’d have never heard the end of it.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:52
@Grognard: Park and Foster are one thing, but I think you have it out for Evra. I think he had an excellent game. It wasn’t his fault he was selected to take the pk. Should he have made it? Yes. No pro should EVER miss. However, at the end of the day he is a LB and shouldn’t be called on for a pk. That is a striker or midfield duty.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:53
It bloody annoys me, how when we concede with foster in goal, its always all his fault. Forget the other 10 players not doing their jobs, its all fosters fault. But when VDS is in goal, then we can criticize our outfield players.
Bloody pathetic.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:54
@I_Bleed_Red: Fabio is a left back, he scores pens…
August 9th, 2009 at 17:56
@Dan: Fabio is a winger disguised as a Left back.
August 9th, 2009 at 17:57
@Grognard: Yeah the score was flattering to CHELSEA, we were far better than them in the 1st half. And for all your pontificating that they were the better team – its laughable! They got their 2nd goal thru BALLACK and the usual Chelsea\ cheating. Sour grapes my arse!
And NO, I am not going to criticise our lads, because I thought they played their hearts out today. Also, that is the last time I will take your feelings into consideration when remarking on that CHEATING BASTARD Ballack. Every fucker who is honest in the game, knows that Ballack is a CHEAT with a Capital C. He was all over Evra at the end of the game, trying to apologise to him – that’s how fucky guilty his conscience was.
August 9th, 2009 at 18:00
@Dan: Agree. The 1st goal was obviously Nani’s fault. Foster did well to go up against Drogba, who makes most goalkeepers shit their pants just thinking about a situation like that. The 2nd one was a wide open shot for Lampard, who hit a bullet and ended up lucky to see it bounce in. I’m not sold on Foster yet, but I am definitely sick of reading the mick taken out of him over and over again.
August 9th, 2009 at 18:00
@Craig Mc: I thought we looked very tame in the second half, for the first 20 min in the 2nd we didnt have any kind of grip in midfield.
As for the selection of penalty takers, I’m convinced that Ferguson purposely chose Evra as a PK taker, or else Evra purposely asked SAF to take one. Ok PKs are not his forte, but he showed courage to take one after what happened and had it gone in, we would have been praising him. But he took a poor PK, that’s for sure.
As for Fabio, he did shaken up things when going forward, I thought he was better than Valencia.
August 9th, 2009 at 18:01
@Dan: Don’t worry about it Dan, its a charity trophy, one which our lads, including Foster fought like fuck for! Those Chelsea fucks had to cheat, its the only way those GRANDADS can win a game, together with their assistants, the GRANDAD referees
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August 9th, 2009 at 18:07
Anyone else think that Carrick is a serious shout for Penalty taker this season?
He took them clinically back at Spurs, and if scoring penalties can help in getting him to be more adventurous during actual play…
August 9th, 2009 at 18:07
Does anyone else think Fabio and Valencia are an excellent combo?
August 9th, 2009 at 18:08
@NicoQB: No matter how tame you think we looked Mate, those Chelsea fuckers still only managed to score 1 goal against us, until the referee stepped in to GIFT them the advantage those bastard cheats didn’t deserve. They are the WORST sportmen when it comes to doing the right thing. Look back to the Barca game, when Ballack, DOGba and their full back were about to fucking kill the referee because Iniesta scored at the end. They cannot keep it together, and TWAT Ballack proved that yet again today! He wanted to kick every United player in sight! He is a goader, and the game was being played FAIRLY contested until that fucker came on. He should be in a mental hospital and not on a football pitch!
August 9th, 2009 at 18:18
@TD: That’s it TD, you tell the doom merchants mate
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August 9th, 2009 at 18:23
@I_Bleed_Red: Fabio scared the absolute shit out of Ashley Cole when he came on for O’Shea. That side of the pitch was aflame with Fabio blistering pace, and Valencia.
August 9th, 2009 at 18:31
@Craig Mc: I think Valencia is the perfect foil for Fabio. Valencia has the defensive presence to allow Fabio the freedom to make his forays up the pitch, where he is very dangerous. I suspect that Fabio will start primarily against middle-bottom half teams, and if he is paired with Valencia they will be shitting themselves. If Raphael and Nani can join in and these four can form mutual understandings, things should be very exciting in the wide areas.
August 9th, 2009 at 18:32
@Grognard: Groggy, i have to seriously question that…He did have a go at Evra during that play (off the ball) and he was continuously taunting along with the fans in that section of the stadium. It looked like he was sent in for that…..
On Foster, was he good??No Was he nervous? Yes…Are we going to sell him for that??NO!!…Who cares we dropped the community shield..Fergie wanted what we need…Give Foster a chance against a big side…He dint flourish but he dint disappoint either..
August 9th, 2009 at 18:40
@Grognard: And you call me biased about Anderson?!
For fucks sake, standing up for Ballack today is just pathetic. No more than that!
And for fucks sake, stop critisising Foster just because he made a few errors!!! It low mate, real low. He is a fucking goalie, and they are no better than their defenders. Evans was massive today, but even he had problems containing a Drogba who looked hungry as fuck! He made good saves from Drogba, Anelka and Foster, and can you please, please, please tell me that Big Peter NEVER made amistake. Champions League final `99, he fucked up with a free kick. Even the great Dane has fucked up many times, your so called “great” Oliver Kahn fucked up lots of times too. Foster has been immense for us the past few seasons, and has looked every bit of United class goalkeeper. He fucked up against Malaysia, and his confidence seemed shattered. Agaisnt that Chinese team he let in two goals because the defence was dribbling on 20 yards. And I remember you critisising him. He is a goalkeeper who now suffers some crisis of confidence. The first goal was not his fucking fault! It was Evra and Nani who didnt do their job. And for the second goal, it was a hard Lampard shot when free on 18 yards. Would Casillias save it? Would Schmeicel save it? No they wouldnt, I bet they wouldnt even got a hand on that, because it was a hard shot by Lampard practically through on goal. Fucks sake man…
Besides, his kicking was maybe off. But, I cant exactly say he got the best passes Ive seen in my life. Time and time again he got a shit backpass, and with the pitch at Wembley being so shit, its gonna be difficult to kick it right away. So stop blaming him for everything, cause even though he fucked up a few times today he will still be our goalkeeper for the next few games, and like it or not, for the next few years as well! One “bad” game is not gonna tire Fergie, you are gonna see plenty more of him, so get used to it…
BTW, Evra actually played well today…
August 9th, 2009 at 18:44
@Craig Mc: Mate, United fought for it alright. We showed the whole world that we could step up our game without Ronaldo, even agaisnt the likes of a fully fit Chelsea team. AND, had they not cheated we would have won the game. Which is why I am positive towards the new season…
FYI, Your boy Nani did really well today.
Hope to see more of that, only with Valencia on the right wing. 
August 9th, 2009 at 18:46
Sorry Grog, but Ballack=Cunt.
August 9th, 2009 at 18:48
@edwin: Ballack=Joey Barton in disguise
August 9th, 2009 at 18:49
@Footy4Eddy: Thank you eddy. Thank you!
August 9th, 2009 at 18:51
@Footy4Eddy: I prefer joey barton
I hope bollox rots.
August 9th, 2009 at 18:51
@Footy4Eddy: According to bbc NEWS Lil man Nani has DISLOCATED his shoulder and will be out for a while. Now please tell me that it wasn’t down to a filthy bloody tackle from Twat Ballack that led to Nani’s injury, because I was called away to answer a phone call when it happened, and I missed about 25 minutes of 2nd half play! Nani is so fucking unlucky – truly!
August 9th, 2009 at 18:54
More bad news…
Nani may be out for two months after the medical team didnt manage to pop his shoulder back into place.
And I who was looking forward to more from him now that Ronaldo has left… 
August 9th, 2009 at 18:55
@Craig Mc: Shit.
Step up…
Tosic?
August 9th, 2009 at 19:00
@NicoQB: After Fabio’s display today, I think there may be a case for moving him to left wing, because I sure as fuck have no faith in Tosic being any bloody use to us!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:01
@Craig Mc: Tackle from Terry… Surprise, surprise?
August 9th, 2009 at 19:04
@Footy4Eddy: Hmmmmm same difference I’d say!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:06
@Dan: I may not be Fosters biggest fan, but I am a big Manchester United fan. And when a player gets bashed for no reason, at lest more than he deserves, it just pisses me off.
August 9th, 2009 at 19:08
I’d say the thing we still need most, it to bolster our MF, because Rooney AND Berba are still going too deep to help the MF out. Fletch was immense today, but Carrick is very pedestrian and struggles against the top sides. Park did a lot of running, but seldom came out with the ball in the MF area. We have to find strength in MF, and I would have preferred Gibbo instead of Scolesy in this kind of game, because of Gibbo’s ability to hit the ball on target from long range, which was needed when confronted by strong Chelsea packed defence.
August 9th, 2009 at 19:12
@Craig Mc: No, it was the 2nd in command of cunts, pride of england, john terry.
August 9th, 2009 at 19:14
@Footy4Eddy: Im exactly the same mate. It annoys me to the max!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:18
@Craig Mc: We should buy Alan Smith!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:19
@Dan: Sometimes I think we are too similar to not be related…
August 9th, 2009 at 19:20
@Dan: Was it a really bad tackle he did on Nani Dan, or was it freak accident collision?.
August 9th, 2009 at 19:21
@Footy4Eddy:
August 9th, 2009 at 19:21
@Footy4Eddy: +1
August 9th, 2009 at 19:22
@Craig Mc: Tbh, it was more of how he landed rather then the tackle itself.
August 9th, 2009 at 19:24
today i thought largely we were the better team, our play was fluid and our goals were well taken goals, well done to nani!
chelsea got one sloopy goal and another which is 50 50 if it should of stood, however foster SHOULD of saved it.
chelsea only really looked comfortable when they took the lead and the reason for this is their ability to soak up play and play tight, THIS IS WHY WE REALLY NEED A NEW KEANE AND QUICK.
other than that i was satisfied juust hope nani,s injury isnt serious!!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:25
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August 9th, 2009 at 19:26
If keane was playing, bollox would have thought twice about what he did.
August 9th, 2009 at 19:27
@Footy4Eddy: @Dan: MAybe you two should get a room or something…
August 9th, 2009 at 19:27
@Footy4Eddy: Wtf?
August 9th, 2009 at 19:28
@NicoQB: You know you’re jealous
August 9th, 2009 at 19:28
@Craig Mc: Terry tackled Lil Man Nani from behind and gaught his foot so he fell. The fall caused the injury in which his shoulder became dislocated. He fell hard, and you could see straight away that he was badly hurt…
August 9th, 2009 at 19:30
@NicoQB: Why dont you join us, I know I know some girls who would satisfy you to the max- COCA COLA STYLE!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:31
@Footy4Eddy:
See? Dan, you’d be ok with that?
August 9th, 2009 at 19:31
@Dan: I know you took notes…
August 9th, 2009 at 19:34
@Dan: What if I am?!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:35
@NicoQB: You can have the redhead, Dan can have blondie and I will take the hot and fit one looking like Andersons goal against Boca.
August 9th, 2009 at 19:35
You guys are missing the point about foster. He isn’t being labelled shit because of the one game. Every time he gets a start he looks shaky. And always let’s in goals, and after every game people make excuses for him. He isn’t good enough!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:38
@Johnsom33: So you want the gingerhead? Sorry, I saved her for Nico…
August 9th, 2009 at 19:39
@Craig Mc: As would say the special one:
Why not?
But I also know that good attacking full backs (or wing backs as they’re sometimes referred to) often fail to live up to the bill when asked to play as a a proper winger.
I’d hope you were right though.
And Obertan who also had to be injured… That’s more of Park for us then…
Or god forbid… Rooney as LW.. again
August 9th, 2009 at 19:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AF4Bfuei6U
Dont be afraid, its not gonna bite. But you gotta admit, the sound of that squeel is just *****m!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:41
@Footy4Eddy: I thought tackling from behind was a disallowed art now. Course, when did Chelsea bastards EVER stick to doing only what was allowed?. Poor Nani, he couldn’t have seen it coming, so no wonder he fell heavily. Hope that bastard Terry is happy!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:41
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August 9th, 2009 at 19:43
I will never understand how a dislocated shoulder can keep a footballer out for months. I tore damn near everything in my left shoulder and was back playing basketball in a month. A sport that actually relies on my arms and hands. Yeah it will pop out again, but the pain is nowhere near as bad as the first time.
August 9th, 2009 at 19:45
Eddie this is NOT a fucking PORN site mate, so cut it out, because the GF checks out this site, and if she sees what you are Dan are filling the pages with, I will get no end of grief to come of the blog and stay off
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August 9th, 2009 at 19:48
@Craig Mc: Sorry mate, didnt think of that.
Just thought Id share my expertise with the rest of the guys! Who knows, it might come in handy. 
August 9th, 2009 at 19:48
@Dan: To be honest, if Keane was playing, the Chelsea forwards would have been downed – ALL 3 of them, LONG before they got anywhere near the box to score that CHEAT of a ref assisted goal
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August 9th, 2009 at 19:50
@Footy4Eddy:
, JUST STAY ON TOPIC of thread talking Man United mate. I swear your a sex OBSESSED feckin slave to your hormones Eddi mi man!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:50
@Craig Mc: Terry is a cunt, and he meant to injure Nani there as he was getting embarrased by him. Its a disgrace, or as Drogba would say it: “ITS A DISGRACE, ITS A FUCKING DISGRACE!!!”
Chelsea never do things the fair way… If it was not on a football pitch, Bollox and Terry would get arrested for violating human rights!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:50
fuck fuck fuck discolated shoulder for nani!! just when the boy was going to get his chance!!
and what makes it worse is that excuse of a player park will replace him!
FUCK!!!!!!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 19:51
what can I say…we do need a new keeper…FOster can be good..but he needs to go out on loan for another year and play every week in the Premier League at a lower table club…I can see him costing us the league with his inexperience…we can’t afford to let him get his experience at united at the expense of a title…calm down boys (GROGNARD especially)…Park will be phased out over the course of the season…O’Shea played because of Chelsea’s height up top. Anelka and Drogba are beasts when it comes to the high ball…O’Shea will always get the Chelsea game because of his height…Carrick does not look fully fit and is a bit of the pace and playing too slowly…Fletcher..immense..Hargo who? He will become one of the leaders of the team this season…Berbatov, our best player…Valencia had a tough outing but hard to come in with 20 odd minutes and put your stamp on the game. Rooney, needs to play up higher and stop thinking he is a midfielder…just take a leaf out of Owen’s book and play off Berbatov and he will score many many goals…Evra..I love this player…he has not been as good as he has in the past but he is a big reason for our success with his lung bursting runs…don’t forget this…he needs to remember though that he is a defender first and make sure that is taken care…while Ballack is a filthy cheat, Evra should have tried to play on…as a defender he can’t afford to go down like that…Nani, much potential but still defensively positionally naive…needs to cover for Evra as well as track back…I am very hopeful about this season but worried mostly about the goalie situation…I rate PIG higher than FOster even givben his kicking game is worse than Foster’s. I think its a no-brainer that goalies have to be 2-footed and sure of it…I’m not buying excuses of bad backpasses…EVDS would have handled those easy because he is VERY good wit the ball at his feet…if Foster could clean that up and become better at crosses..yes he would be immense..but he needs to learn that on loan at Wigan or Hull..not United
August 9th, 2009 at 19:53
@Craig Mc:
I might be obsessed with sex, but its only normal is it not? 
Im not a slave though, I can control myself well enough to make sex my own slave, and with it make the people around me listen to no other than me… 
August 9th, 2009 at 19:55
@Craig Mc: If Alan Smith was playing, there would be no Chelsea tomorrow…
August 9th, 2009 at 19:57
@Don: Agree with most of it, but I gotta say that Evra got an elbow straight at his throat… Kinda hard to play on then, when you hardly can breathe…
August 9th, 2009 at 20:00
The other thing to note is that Chelsea were experimenting with a new system and were not very comfortable with it. Essien was stuck on right midfield, Lampard was not in the game at all the first half and in general Chelsea looked a bit unbalanced. That probably explains in part why we found it easy first half.
I think unfortunately as our squad stands Chelsea, Barcelona and even Real are quite a bit better than us. Of course we have £60 million sitting in the bank. But rather than use it to bridge the gap between us and our rivals we are just going to be complacent.
Craig, I agree with you…Carrick never shows up in the big games. He is a constant in the mauling by Milan and Barca. Unfortunately he does a good job in the run of the mill games so gets to keep his place. Im sad to say that Fletcher is our best central midfielder!!! If that isn’t a wake up call that we need to strengthen our squad I do not know what is….no disrespect to Fletcher who any squad would be lucky to have
If Nani is out, we have no option other than to play Giggs or Rooney on the wing. Tosic isn’t ready and needs to be blooded in the cups (but even then i think he’ll fall short). Maybe it is worth putting a bid in for David Silva after all!
August 9th, 2009 at 20:01
@Johnsom33: Reason why football players need more time than Basket-players do is because footballers need their whole body to play. Its a very physical game and if you are not fully fit you will not manage to do well. If we were Rochdale or Bury or even fucking Goatie FC we could have played Nani tomorrow, but we are competing for the biggest trophies, and we cannot afford to play an injured player… Its just how it goes.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:05
Carrick is just shite when it comes to these kind of games… Whenever we face Chelsea, Barca, Liverpool or even Bayern we suffer because of his lack of speed, balance and quick thinking. He is good in the games against the bottom teams, but not in the big games. Which is actually the opposite of Fletcher, so my calculation says that those two should never be paired together… Anderson/Giggs and Fletcher in the big games, Carrick and Scholes/Gibson in the games agaisnt lower 10 teams. They both get the space they need to pass, and dont have to do too much defending…
August 9th, 2009 at 20:08
My team for Birmingham!
Foster(he wont have a lot to do, and a clean sheet would do wonders to his confidence)
Fabio Evans Rio Evra
Valencia Carrick Giggs Anderson
Rooney Berbatov
Anderson may be better as a LW, or we could change him and Giggs if it doesnt work out too well. As long as I dont have to see Wazza on the wing I think I will be happy…
August 9th, 2009 at 20:08
@Footy4Eddy: Viva el sexo!!!
But everything has its place and I’m pretty sure RR will be wary about those google hits he might be getting from pervs as a result of your doing Ed!
August 9th, 2009 at 20:14
@NicoQB: I promise I will be wearing a condom next time I do that, apparantley they make sex safe!
I gotta take it more easy…
August 9th, 2009 at 20:18
can anyone confirm to me how long nani is out for?
August 9th, 2009 at 20:20
@Dan: Fair enough, Carvalho should have been marked but Foster made a meal of the first attempt. The blame is 80% his. And I do not look pathetic. In fact I’m quite cute in a good light.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:20
Now onto some non-sexual information by your master!
Mame Biram Diouf scored a beauty against Rosenborg in Moldes 5-0 win over the Trøders. It was a curler from 18 yards after being played through by some other guy… He looks more and more promising with each game.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:22
@Traverse: Am I supposed to be unpredictable just because it would entertain you more? I true to my beliefs and convictions mate. If you disagree with them or find them intolerable, may I suggest scrolling past my name and ignoring what I have to say. Asking me to be something I am not is offensive to me.
Problem with people like you mate is you can’t handle the truth, therefore you would prefer to suppress those who shout it out with passion and purpose.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:22
@jamie lee: approximately 2 months…
August 9th, 2009 at 20:23
The game seemed to have a familiar ring to it. We started well, with lively pushes down each flank, causing all kinds of problems for the Chelsea defense, then tapering off sharply in the 2nd half, allowing their MF to control the game and to deny us any deep penetration through the middle.
Our opportunities dwindled as their oppotunities flourished.
The fact that Carrick was invisible for most of the game was due to him playing too deep, the fact that Rooney and Berbatov were MIA, was because… Carrick was playing too deep. It’s not hard to figure out, but really we just don’t have the CMF’er to bolster this issue!
The cunt in black aside, I felt that Foster should have done better on both goals. He was nervous and edgy the entire game and with the exception of a couple of fine stops he did nothing to boost my confidence in him.
Evra had a good game today, with the one caveat of letting Ballack wind him up too much. He looked great attacking the flank and seemed committed to his defensive tackling (his challenge on the German Cunt, that earned him his yellow, was a joy to watch. I though Ballack was lucky to still have both legs attatched when he got up). For me, him and Fletcher were our best players today.
Tactically, I think SAF fucked up the team selection, and then fucked up the PK lineup (again!!).
To start Park in favor of Valencia was a shocker and with no disrespect to O’Shea, De Laet should definately have got the nod there.
Owen should have come on for Berbatov at halftime so that he would have a chance to get his head in the game and Gibson would have made a better sub than Scholes.
All in all it was not a horror show, but there were certainly some warning signs that we would do well to pay attention to!!
August 9th, 2009 at 20:24
Truly though, I can cope with losing the Charity Shield, but the real disappointment is Nani’s injury.
Of all people, he himself was looking forward to the coming season and this will just fuel further gossip about Nani’s apparent “uselessness” when in fact he doesn’t play..
August 9th, 2009 at 20:28
@beachryan: It’s how well you play against these type of teams that wins you the league mate. Hull is a given, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Shitty and Aston Villa are the teams we have to get up for and play very well against because they are more than capable of beating us. Today proved that we are not shite but that we are not that great either and that we have defensive woes which is one thing we were not counting after all the turmoil of our summer defections and signings.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:30
@Footy4Eddy: Eddy, why the fuck are you talking about Alan Smith??
August 9th, 2009 at 20:32
@NicoQB: Not playing = Useless!!
August 9th, 2009 at 20:33
@NicoQB: So fucking what if it was Ballack and who threw the elbow? Evra the player I least like on United was on the end of it. My frakken heart bleeds. I wished we had a player on our team with a bit of a mean streak. Did anybody bitch when Keano handed out that kind of justice in his day? So stop being whining bitch and live with it. I’m upset we lost and upset with Ballack but I’m not about to turn on my favorite player for showing some mustard and some manliness in the box. It’s part of the game and that Skinned sausage was getting beaten in the air all day anyway. A good elbow should have woken him and the team up. We played like second best all game and in the end we were. So blame Ballack all you want. I don’t care. It’s not exactly a thrill for me to have my favorite player wearing Chelsea blue and so you all can have your fun and call him all you want. To me he is not as despicable as Drogba or Terry and that’s that.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:37
@I_Bleed_Red: Read what wrote mate. I never blamed Evra. I thought he was adventurous going forward but was still a liability especially on corner and crosses on defense. Still, it was Fergie’s fault for choosing him in the most vital #3 slot in the PK order who is most to blame. Then I blame Rooney, Owen, Valencia, Scholes for not being man to put their hands up and take the call for that kick. A gutless show from the boys.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:38
@Dan: Because it is, OK.
NO, WHAT’S BLOODY PATHETIC IS YOUR DEFENSE OF AN INDEFENSIBLE POSITION.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:39
Sorry about the caps there Dan. Didn’t notice until after I posted.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:45
@Craig Mc: BOOO FUCKING HOO my friend. I’m not happy with Ballack either but if this is designed to stir me up, it ain’t working. I for one am not blinded by my allegiance and today United were far from being the best team on the pitch. Despite the Chelsea cheating they should have made a meal of us from all the great chances they had from crosses and corners and despite a few good moments from us we looked slow and disorganized and completely out to lunch defensively. Our counter attack was slow and uninspired and basically we looked lethargic out there. The team selection from the start was wrong and the tactics were same old same old. As for the penalty kicks, that was down to Fergie’s stupidity and certain goal scoring leaders on our team that hid tyhemselves when they were needed most. If you and others cannot see that, then nothing else Is ay means shite so I will stop now and go on to other things in my life because one thing this killer move taught me, life is to damned short and too hard to be arguing and fighting over trivial nonsense. I’ve made my points and my peace and you all can take them for what they are. Peace out.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:49
@I_Bleed_Red: I want goalkeepers who don’t shit their pants when confronted with a Drogba. Thats the whole point and why Foster’s half hearted attempt was pathetic to those who know the difference between a Schmeichel and the rest. Schmeichel would have taken Drogba’s head off fisting that ball out of play. Of that I have no doubt. Goalkeepers have to command the box and be physical with presence, not timid little ass clowns who play on their back heels and who hope and pray their defenders handle everything in the box. Foster is useless.
August 9th, 2009 at 20:53
@Footy4Eddy: thanks!!!
FUCK!!
August 9th, 2009 at 20:55
@Craig Mc: Tooday you sound like a biased blind as Hell fan and not the intelligent guy who will question things and offer some wisdom aor ask questions of the manager or the team. Nothing more boring than a rah rah type who has no answers mate but likes to put down the answers or complaints of others. Where the fuck have you put your mojo. You have gone really soft and it’s not like you to sound like a frakken Newcastle fan. Last year you would have been full of analysis and complaints not just about Chelsea but with Fergie and our team. Instead now they can play like total chumps and they are chocolate cake to you while the opponent is an evil Anti-Christ who is part of a conspiracy to destroy United. I love you bro because you offer wit, comic relief but intelligence as well. Not this rah rah bullshit. Leave that to the drunkards in the stands who have a hard time spelling their names let alone Schmeichel. I expect more from you bro.
Consider this a challenge to you to find your mojo. I think expectant fatherhood has softened you up a bit too much. 
August 9th, 2009 at 20:58
@Redrich: Because he appeared in a dream to me the other night and told me he would be the solution to all our problems…
August 9th, 2009 at 20:59
@TD: I guess the bar Chelsea hit, the high header on an absolute sitter that Evra fucked up and the Malouda fan on a sure goal count for nothing? Chelsea had four good chances to score in the first half. We had two and scored on one. So forgive me if I fail to see how we so dominated them when every time they crossed the ball into our box I wet myself from fear?
Fuck if there is one thing I hate it’s blind faith and blind passion. Loving something a lot does not mean you cannot criticize it when it’s not doing well. That does not make us lesser fans than you. It’s just we have the bollocks to stand by our convictions and not hide behind our blind loyalty. 
So rotate on that for negativity.
August 9th, 2009 at 21:05
@Shyam: I think Foster disappointed big time. He showed that he has more than one flaw and that his nerves got the better of him. He’s just not world class mate and frankly this is Manchester United we are talking about. We deserve a world class keeper. for us to have to settle for that muppet as our future #1 is an absolute disgrace and I blame Fergie for his sheer stupidity at not knowing fuck all about picking good keepers. Hell, he wasn’t even sure about Schmeichel when he got him and he admitted that he bought EDVS far too late as well. I couldn’t help but laugh at the tv every time they showed Foster and then Capello. I would have loved to know what Capello was thinking after every poor kick and bad decision Foster made?
August 9th, 2009 at 21:16
Any news about Nani’s injury???
He is relly important if this is the final squad…
August 9th, 2009 at 21:17
@Footy4Eddy: Are you trying to get on my bad side mate? I never stood up for Ballack. I said what he did was terrible but I did say that I had no problem with it because it was done to Evra who I just hate. Sorry but I’m being honest. I like it when players are physical and occasionally dirty like Keano. Remember, I am Canadian and have been brought up with hockey so forgive me if a little of my heritage comes out but I believe in playing the game like men and not a bunch of fucking whining little girls. Too many footballers are total pussies and the rules encourage vaginal excretions. If this was more of a man’s sport it would resemble the game that was played before the 90’s when players were physical and when the game was played by men and not prima donas who dove and acted like cunts. Ballack is German and they learn to play the game with some physicality. No I didn’t like what he did but he did what it takes to win and in my books it’s only cheating if you’ve been caught. Cheating tells me a player cares and wants to win. It’s a cultural thing and North Americans are born with that extra chip on their shoulders and for that I do not and will not apologize.
And if I ever hear you tell me to not criticize a player again, you will get a mouth full mate. Nobody but nobody tells me what I can and cannot say. If you or others can’t handle, ignore it. I speak my mind and I’m honest and sincere with my thoughts and contributions. Stop acting like the Thought Police and get off my fucking back because that is the one thing I cannot stand more than anything on this blog and Red Ranter will varify that. I don’t mind if you disagree with me but do not EVER tell me not to criticize or say anything against a player or manager. That you do not do with me. Show me some respect. Players do not fall into that category. They are fair game for any of us.
As for Foster, I’ll call him a chump when he is a chump, like today and I will praise him when he plays well. I have my views on him and you should respect them even if you don’t agree with them. And making excuses for his poor play is just bloody sad and pathetic. I seriously doubt any of those bad back passes would have caused such problems to EVDS. Foster is Gentle Ben. He’s not cut out to be a top keeper in a hard tough physical league.
August 9th, 2009 at 21:18
@edwin: Sticks and stones mate.
What a bunch of babies. Blaming a terrible team performance on one dirty move by Ballack. Well, whatever gets you through the night mates.
August 9th, 2009 at 21:18
How come I feel that right now Grognard is writing a comment that is going to flame me so hard its gonna burn off everything Im wearing and every hair I have on my body?
August 9th, 2009 at 21:21
@Grognard: ballack is a known feces eater. as are most germans.
August 9th, 2009 at 21:22
@Dan: What? You needs spokesmen for you now that you thank them every time they have a go at me? Just remember who has stuck up for you many times when you have gone overboard and nearly been kicked out? Instead thanking me for caring enough about you, you backhand like a little bitch when I don’t agree with you. Real class Dan and a real sign of friendship and gratitude. I’ll think twice the next time you get your ass in the fire.
August 9th, 2009 at 21:23
@Grognard: man u are way too critical to be honest.
united werent gutless, are tactics were different and we were fluid. u talk about chelsea being in ontrol and that the should of put us to bed even if the ref didnt fuck up, but i see no great evidence in ur rant!!
i shall elaborate. for one we were in control for the first half and it was us who should of put chelsea to bed with our chances and movement, however they have a really god keeper in chech.
then withouth having to do much chelsea scored a sloopy goals compliments to foster which i will agree was annoying!! then compliments to cheating they scored a fortunate goal, which had nothing to do with our play, UNLUCKY thats all.
then things looked as if chelsea were in complete control but the only reason for that was becuase when they take the lead they soak up play, but in the end our man rooney who u called gutless produce a magnificent goal.
only thing i will criticise is our need for a mf enforv=cer but our boys did well today consider the set backs of the goals
August 9th, 2009 at 21:25
@Craig Mc: Ah fuck this totally!
It was a fair tackle by John Terry of all people and Ballack wasn’t even in the game yet. Now that really fucking pisses me off. See now that’s what I mean about your mind being overruled by your vagina and temper. Fuck, put Ballack down all you want but at least fucking fair and correct. 
August 9th, 2009 at 21:25
@Johnsom33: eating feces makes them good at pks
August 9th, 2009 at 21:26
@Grognard: I agreed with what eddy had to say about foster, was that a crime?
This is a football matter, a debate, i dont understand why you are taking this so personally?
August 9th, 2009 at 21:27
@Footy4Eddy: WTF?????? Seriously Eddy, get some fucking help.
August 9th, 2009 at 21:27
@Dan: if it was on the street he would be facing hospital time
August 9th, 2009 at 21:29
@Footy4Eddy: It’s because you are such a genius.
You know mate, I for one do not appreciate being baited by anyone, especially one I consider a friend.
August 9th, 2009 at 21:29
@Grognard: First of all, you know that I would never want you banned from this blog.
Its not the same without you.
Onto other things! I replied to your comment which I felt was way too harsh on some of our players. You has stated your opinion, and I stated mine. You cant blame me for that can you? I may have come out too hard by saying its pathetic this and sad that, but right after a game I am pumped with adrenaline and it may have got the better of me. Sorry for that, but I still stand by my comment regarding Foster and Ballack. Foster will play many more games and Ballack is a cunt. Sorry, but thats just how I see it.
Me, I love playing the game hard. Like I said yesterday, my style of play is based on Alan Smith destroyment of Chelsea in 2005, and that is where you can get the best image of me as a footballer. I dont like divign cunts or pussies that play is soft, but I dont tolerate cheating. Which is what Ballack did, and if I was him I would be ashamed. They didnt play fair, and even if they wanted to win, it doesnt prove anything else to me than that they are some cunts who can only win by playing outside the rulebook. Its just wrong, and is a big reason why I hate Italian football.
August 9th, 2009 at 21:30
@Footy4Eddy: My god, I wish I could sleep like that!
Do you think SAF had the same dream about Park, last night??
August 9th, 2009 at 21:31
@Grognard:
You learned something new, didnt ya? 
August 9th, 2009 at 21:33
@Grognard: This isn’t a few good men!!
Truth that you cannot accept is this: your butt buddy Ballack is a cunt. You ignored it and everything is Evra’s fault. Like headbutting Ballack’s poor unsuspecting superior elbow. How unfortunate for him*.
No mention of Fosters save from Drogba that lead to the goal, no mention of his save from Anelka that looked 100% a goal. No no. Here’s a list of 12 yearolds who are still playing in the German first division for a reason.
*This is on top of choosing money over success, feigning injury twice in this match and going missing in every major event of his football career. He’s brilliant.
August 9th, 2009 at 21:33
@Grognard: I am, arent I?
You know I wouldnt want to be pissed at you are anything, or make you mad at me and such. i was just caught in the heat of the moment, Im usually full of adrenaline after a game…
You can easily see in my comment I rushed a few places, and somethign came out different from how I wanted them too. 
August 9th, 2009 at 21:35
@Redrich: Either that or he needs a punch in the face…
August 9th, 2009 at 21:39
@Grognard: What did Dan do wrong, he just agreed with my views on Foster and our team?! Cant see your name in there, so who says it was directed towards you?
August 9th, 2009 at 21:39
@Footy4Eddy: You have hair on your body yet, mate!!
August 9th, 2009 at 21:46
That’s it, I’ve had it. I am getting bloody sick and tired of the neo conservative bullshit that is taking control of this blog. Too many people being more preoccupied with my right to speak my mind rather than debate with me or just bloody plain disagree. Instead they rather poke fun at me or put me down and call me negative and mean spirited. FUCK ALL OF THIS. I don’t need this shit and I don’t need being made to feel like shit disturber and asshole just because I have the honesty and the bollocks to comment on what I see regardless of whether it passes the screening test by the Cowardly majority who would rather kiss Fergie’s ass than kick it.
Rather than ask questions of Fergie and the team instead most of you waste time with stupid and unfair attacks on me because I don’t wear a happy face sign over my head and because I don’t wake up and go to bed praying to the Church of Fergie. For some of you I am a lesser fan and deserving of your wrath and contempt because I’m just not a loyal cultist. Fuck all of this. I don’t need this abuse anymore and I can do without this right wing bullshit.
Besides, the commentary on this site of late is less than intelligent, in fact, it’s downright stupid, boring and smelling of neo conservative ignorance at times. Sorry for the political analogies but that’s what it smells like when others try to pour shit over everything you say because they don’t feel you have a right to your own opinion if it doesn’t coincide with theirs. Ans in the end they are reduced to Neanderthals by showing stupidity by poking fun at my favorite player just because they know it will piss me off. Juvenile and immature and I for one am not in the mood for it. Worse yet, an apology from anybody in this group is rarer than finding a 1915 Honus Wagner baseball card in mint condition. So I’ll spare all of you that agony and do you a favor and fuck off. I have better things to do than to be abused because I choose to see things for what they are rather than for some out there whose delusions hope for something not possible under the present circumstances. Therefore I am tired of being Public Enemy #! and your whipping boy. So long
August 9th, 2009 at 21:47
@Dan: This stopped being a debate when everybody started to attack me for my views rather than debate my views.
August 9th, 2009 at 21:48
Just to make it clear, I hate no Manchester United player. I dont hate Evra, I dont hate Kuszczack and I dont hate Scholes. I try to keep a neutral view over the squad on this blog, and when i bash some players its because I either feel they do thigns wrong or are not sued properly. The only players I will let off easier than others are Anderson, Nani, Rooney and Foster. Not because I like Foster, or because I admire him like I admire Wazza, Andy or Nani. Its just that I feel he is being unapreciated, and some people treat him waay to harsh. Sure, menatlity is supposed to be “perfect”, nothing should scare a goalkeeper.
But in the end they are only human, and as Homo Sapiens nerves and emotions can get the better of us. Now Foster suffers some crisis of confidence, along with the pressure of having to do well. For a goalkeeper that actually has been injured for the majority of the last two years, playing for the biggest club in the world and trying to become the next England number 1. is very difficult. Sometimes I feel people dont look beyond the “player” and look into the human mind… Yes, Foster can fuck up. But his defence didnt make it easy for him, and right now it looks like even the slightest thing can get the better of him(emotionally). He needs a clean sheet so his confidence can return, and he needs to feel safe and respected by his defenders. Plus, he needs to feel that the manager values him properly. I feel for Foster today, because the way some people are bashing him is unhuman! Thats my view of it… 
August 9th, 2009 at 21:55
@Grognard: Oh Buuu Fucking Hoo!!!
Come on mate, youre better than that! You leave your princibles if you leave because you are “public enemy number 1″. What about the fuck all mentality, my view is right and yours wrong. If we feel your view is wrong we say it, and you know pretty well yourself you are controvercial! Stop with the “You attack me!”- Bullshit! We aint doing nothing wrong according to the Comments Policy. We state our views, give our angle of it and try to counter yours. How the fuck can that be wrong?! You will never be right all the time, you have to live with it. Sometimes people arent like you, or dont share your views. Its happend often, and this time is no different.
As for the Ballack bullshit, we all hate Ballack because he is a cunt! Had Lampard or Mikel done it, we would have dont the same. Not everything is about you you know…
August 9th, 2009 at 21:57
@Redrich: I look like Chris Foy after Rooney screaming the shit out of him!
August 9th, 2009 at 22:03
Well, Fergie has some good news and some bad news. Bad news, Nani is going to be out “for a while”(however logn that means?). Reports suggest it will be between a month or two…
Good news, Hargo has not suffered another setback and is still in the US for his rehabilitation programme. May be back in October, which is much better than February!
August 9th, 2009 at 22:11
@Footy4Eddy: It’s not that you feel my views are wrong and you say so. No, that would be debating and disagreeing. It’s claims like I am too negative and that i have no right to offer my views that offends. And mocking me after i have bled my heart and soul in frustration and pain is no way to treat me mate. So I will depart.
Also, let it be known that I was not happy with what Ballack did today because he did it against Manchester United. However, you don’t turn on your favorite player just because he has a little Roy Kean in him and the hypocrites who call themselves United fans should not forget the Roy Keane’s of the world who have done plenty of that in the name and on behalf of Manchester United. So forgive me if I say Boo fucking hoo to all those hypocrites who don’t mind it if we dish it out, but can’t take it when it’s served up to us. Ballack is a competitor and a winner and he’ll do whatever it takes to win like a true professional. And that was a professional foul that he got away with, simple as that. Not happy about it but not going to lose sleep over it because in my view, we deserved to lose the game anyway. Aufviedersehen!
August 9th, 2009 at 22:13
What I think of todays game
Firstly- Ben Foster,rubbish…What we need is a keeper that is steady… Collects crosses,punches when required,is comfortable with the ball at his feet and can make saves. Foster is incapable of any. He fucked up almost every one of our backpasses. If Drogba was lucky he would have got the ball and scored. He is as bad as kuzchack with his kicking…atleast PIG gets them to safety!Foster is a joke. The first goal was tricky but he should have punches it away not into danger. THe second was on him no doubt. How do you fail to save a fucking straight shot?? Foster is as Grognard once said ‘100% grade A dog shit’He has done nothing in his career to say he should be number 1. Nothing,PIG played like him today there wud an outrage!I bet Capello was thinking…’World cup squad?England number 1?haha’
Shame for Nani,he was looking good today and I hope he comes back soon. Rooney took his goal really well. HE truly is coming along well and Fabio should be played more, looks exactly like Rafael. If not a bit better. Berbatov too is improving. He should have a good season. We can play football still better than chelsea. They scored two goals that we could have easily avoided.
To end-please Ferguson buy a keeper or even play Oshea in goals before its too late!
August 9th, 2009 at 22:14
lads seriously whose going to play left?
i do hope its anderson or even evra, we are depleted when parkis out there, WHY O WHY do we have a player like park
August 9th, 2009 at 22:19
@Grognard: Well, so long mate. Its sad to see you leave in this manner, because I for one considered you better than this.
August 9th, 2009 at 22:21
@jamie lee: Its one of these possibilities:
1. Park
2. Tosic
3. Anderson
4. Giggs
5. Welbeck
August 9th, 2009 at 22:24
@Footy4Eddy: i no the possibilities but i really dont want park there, and none of the above will bring to the table what nani does, but anderson would be good with his left foot
August 9th, 2009 at 22:25
@Taehr: —-> Footy4Eddy
FYI, Foster made some great saves today and reason for horrible kicks is the horrible pitch of Wembley… Nanis fault for not marking Carvalho, Foys fault for being a Scouser.
Foster caught the ball well when required, and as I said made some good stops. He will turn out great, just needs a clean sheet under his belt. 
August 9th, 2009 at 22:27
@jamie lee: There exist nobody like Nani, so forget having a direct replacement. Welbeck would be good, he has proved in the past that he can beat a man and can cross well. Andy would be nice to have as his qualities fit better for a LW, but unfortunately Fergie will opt for Park…
August 9th, 2009 at 22:28
@Footy4Eddy: yup i thinks so too………
not good news
August 9th, 2009 at 22:34
If there was a song dedicated to each footballplayer, Fosters would have been: “What do I have to do to make you love me?”
August 9th, 2009 at 22:35
@Footy4Eddy: Where did you hear that bout hargo?
Nah mate Foster to me is just not good enough. The saves he made PIG would have too. The pitch didnt affect cech. His control of the ball was terrible and too slow with his feet. I dont have much hope for him…Its good ppl like you and dan ofcourse still have faith because I dont. Esp after lampards shot that was basic… Thing is I dont see what makes him better than PIG? He doesnt screw up nearly as much
August 9th, 2009 at 22:35
That’s the third controversial decision in a row given against us at Wembley;
1) League Cup Final vs Spurs -Ronaldo fouled in the box but is booked.
2) FA Cup Semi inal vs Everton -Jagielka trips and then scythes Welbeck down -stonewall penalty not given
3) Today, Ballack poleaxes Evra with a forearm smash -stonewall red card, Chelsea score.
It seems David Gill and Fergie don’t have as much influence with the FA as our detractors like to imagine.
August 9th, 2009 at 22:37
@Footy4Eddy: haha thats funny
…Just be a decent keeper lad. Thats all
August 9th, 2009 at 22:43
@Taehr: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5482297,00.html
As for Foster, the goal Lampard scored is not easy to save at all. We are tlaking about the deadliest midfielder here, one-on-one with a goalkeeper on 18 yards! His shot was hard, but because of Fosters great reflexes he got his hand on it. If not for that, it would have been a piledriver into the bottom corner…
Cech didnt have to kick the ball once, and the time he did he fucked up too! Cech didnt have as much to do as Foster, which puts him in the better light. Carrick became Scholesy 2k with his backpasses today, same with Sheasy and Rio. Everytime Cech was called into action it was in the air…
PIG is not, and will never be a better goalkeeper than Foster!
Foster is better than him in reflexes, work in the area, coming out, catching crosses and kicking the ball(which we would all be shouting PIGs head off if he had started 
). He was unlucky with a fucked up turf, nothing more. The day Tom is a better goalie than Ben hell will freeze on earth… 
August 9th, 2009 at 22:44
@Cyclops-Red: You got a point there… So much for the refs “supporting” United!
August 9th, 2009 at 22:46
@Taehr:
August 9th, 2009 at 22:54
@Footy4Eddy: What the fuck are you babbling about? How is football more physical and more demanding on your body than basketball? and how are you even going to try and say that your arms are more importnant to a footballer than a basketball player?
Fact of the matter, athletes today are turning into pussy’s. If i were nani, and I had to basically watch from the stand all last year I would be dying to play. Especially now that I have been giving a golden opportunity from fergie to make the left wing my own. I would do everything in my power to get back on the field asap.
August 9th, 2009 at 22:57
@Footy4Eddy: I think what we have to ask ourselves about Foster is, can we better than him??, will he ever become a first rate goalie, would we be better off with PIG.
I think it’s fair to give him his opportunity, but at the end of the day, if he continues in this edgy and tentative mode, we need to act fast and bring in a fresh pair of hands!
August 9th, 2009 at 22:57
@Grognard: Why do you alsways get so sensitive on this blog? Its a rant site, where people can just spout off whatever they want. I suggest to you if you dont like people critiquing your rants then stop putting them out there.
August 9th, 2009 at 23:00
@johnsom33: Ive played basket, and Ive played football. Football defo takes more out of your body, because now the game is much more physical and pacey. I may not know much about Basketball, but I do know lots about football. So I may not be the right person to judge that, but Im talking from my own short experience.
As for Nani, latest reports suggest he may be back for the game against Birmingham!
He was seen leaving Wemlbey carrying shopping bags, so that is god news. 
Would be a fast recovery that one… But we will find out tomorrow, thats when the scan is planned.
August 9th, 2009 at 23:01
I seriously feel bad for nani right now, the guy really looks like hes come on so much in this pre season i really did predict him to have a really excellent season this year, but now i feel his chance may have gone. Not really through any fault of his own but mainly because of this fergie love in going on with park.
The general opinion is nani is to be out for 2 months, this is a real shame, i can see the fergie excuse now come the end of the season when nani finally has enough of not playing and goes elsewhere;
Fergie “Its a real shame nani decided to leave, after his injury he just did not get any game time because of the sensational form of park who was just doing so well i couldnt drop him to give nani game time”
Reporter “Erm this sensational form by park, would this be the same sensational form that saw him score 1 goal and get less than 2 assists and generally doing f**k all except being on his ass, that resulted in nani getting no game time?”
Seriously i can see it nani, park gets in the team every week now, doing nothing except being on his ass, we have to put up with a guy who has the attacking talent of a league 1 player, and all the while fergie will be praising him and then come november time when nanis back, sorry park is just playing too well to drop him. Absolute bollocks.
Im sorry but i just cannot stand another season seeing park on his ass all the time contributing nothing again when we have atleast 5 players who would do a better job than him. We overlooked park last season because of ronaldo and park apparently offered balance to the team, well not any more. This season we need goals and goals from the wing will be crucial. Honestly nani was on course for about 10 and maybe the same number of assists, park will come up with about 3 goals and that many assists, im sorry but for a club like us we need winger who can score themselves or set others up.
Such a shame it had to be nani, i dont like wishing injury upon our player but i just wished it had been park over nani, i just dont see fergie showing faith in nani when he recovers from his injury because of his little park love in.
I would start fabio, welbeck, ando, giggs maybe tosic over park anyday, but we know old predictable fergie will go with park, and im sorry 2 months with this guy in the team and the title will be over, we will simply struggle to score goals full stop cos he offers absolutely zilch from an attacking sense. I am feeling so concerned about this nani injury i think we need to enter the transfer market and buy some1, silva or just about anyone, i just cannot stand the thought of seeing park running around being on his ass all the time contributing nothing when we need goals.
Im sorry if any park fans on here think im being harsh on him but all i can say is wait and see, 2 months in the team with him and no ronaldo like last year and we will be in the shits when nanis back, and i would bet on nani being given his place back because fergie will still persist with park, what he sees in this guy only he knows.
August 9th, 2009 at 23:03
@Redrich: Foster definately has the talent, its there for all to see. Against Derby on his debut, many times last season and for Watford he produced the goods. I guess today was just nerves getting the better of him, he seemed to lack the confidence a goalkeeper at the top level needs. If Foster gets some games, some clean sheets, it will add to his confidence and it will bring experience. Thats all he needs right now, plus the support of United fans.
August 9th, 2009 at 23:03
@Grognard: Mocking you? Of course we are mocking you. Just like everybody mocked Craig when Valencia was man of the match against Valencia and he could not see it.
After a bit of a misunderstanding he took it well and in the end we’re happy to have him back.
It just the oft mentioned concept of Banter.
Now some of us were really miffed with Ballack’s antics and knowing your fondness for him it could be expected that you were going to be on the end of some piques.
Now if you think that all this amount to personal attacks…
August 9th, 2009 at 23:07
@Matt: First part:
Resuming part, all I have to say is that the latest reports suggest he may be back for Bimingham/Burnley…
I dont have anythign against Park, but if he gets chosen over Nani for the majority of our games I will be deeply saddened, because he is an incredible talent and it seems like he wants to do it well here. If Fergies fetish for Asians is going to continues we are fucked this season… 
August 9th, 2009 at 23:13
@Grognard: Aww, come on mate. Let yourself calm down and think about all of this again!!
You stated your views, as always, in a very deliberate and forceful way and haven’t moderated your stance at all, even in the face of an avalanche of disapproval.
What can you, honestly expect?? Folks with views opposite of yours will fight as hard as you over any contentious issue, and have the right to do so, in a manner similar to your own.
Chill, my friend and don’t take it so personally. After all, we are just talking Football here mate, not ideology!!
August 9th, 2009 at 23:27
@Redrich: Aaah Redrich – the voice of reason as always
.
August 9th, 2009 at 23:27
Grog i never did anything wrong to you plz your comments bring this blog to reality and under no illusions
PLz stay no one is going to give you shit 4 ure views. I do admitt ballack is a quality player and what he did was a dirty move but obviously lets not dwell on his actions and move on to more important stuff like the team and who we are going to put in for nani ect
Re-think you’re choice
August 9th, 2009 at 23:31
@NicoQB: You mocked me and I took it well, well fuck me mate, I must have missed that
. Then I was lager brain dead wasn’t I, so you could have done anything, and I wouldn’t have noticed 
.
August 9th, 2009 at 23:36
@Matt: Matt mi man, BARCA asked to buy Nani not Park, so I think SAF has got the message LOUD AND CLEAR!. wHY SHOULD nANI WORRY, when the European champions think he is good enough to play for them. Barca and I think alike
.
August 9th, 2009 at 23:38
@Footy4Eddy: Eddie, if that is true, you are responsible for making me run around my house naked and elated
. Lets hope your right – come on Lil man, come on!
August 9th, 2009 at 23:39
@Craig Mc: That makes Barca, you and me thinking the same.
Nani is quality!!!
August 9th, 2009 at 23:40
@Footy4Eddy: Well i truly hope those reports are true mate, i really do. I am a massive fan of nani, not as big as craig but he really is one of my favourite players and i think it is fair to say he was cheated like garbage by fergie last season but fair play to him he said he wanted to stay, do well here even though it would have been easy for him to say thanks but bye and go with ronaldo or wherever and leave, i really was impressed by that.
Your right though about park, if he plays as much as he did last season we are well and truly fu**ed. Im wouldnt say i have a vendetta against him or anything but i dont like how a guy who contributes so little to our attack seems imune from criticism because he works hard, its just crazy and honestly i dont see why fergie has this little love in with the guy. Like i say i hope nani will be back and fit within a week or so but i dont see it myself, he did hit the ground pretty hard and if as i think fergie said they couldnt pop his shoulder back into place, it sounds kinda serious and suggests at least a few weeks out.
If that is the case though i would definitely start welbeck, fabio, giggs, even tosic over park because they all have a better attacking input than park, seriously his running around and defensive work is all nice is the big games but why on earth will we need this against park the bus birmingham, i just really dont understand some of fergies decisons at times but i would bet any money park starts on sunday.
Also just interested to know ur opinions on what phelan said after the game when asked about new signings, basically said its near the end of august now but if anything develops the reporter would be the first to know. I dont usually read into these things too much, but if they were definitely not going to sign any1 else wouldnt they have just said so right there, not holding my breath but who knows, especially if nani is out for a few months, maybe a bid for silva could be a possibilty then?
Anyway heres the link if you want to hear phelans speech at the end of the game where at the end he mentions this, the phelan recording is just above fletcher/nani pic about 10 seconds from the end of the recording, again probably bollocks but you never know.
August 9th, 2009 at 23:40
@Craig Mc: Nani is not a man- He is Nani, he can do everything. He will heal himself faster than Jesus!
August 9th, 2009 at 23:41
Heres the link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8190061.stm
August 9th, 2009 at 23:44
@Craig Mc: Well i truly hope fergie does get the message but it was clear last season nani was the better option out of the two and yet park played 3 times the games nani did, i just think fergie will prefer park for his work man like attributes even though he offers very little and any1 can see especially now when we need goals nani is the better choice.
August 9th, 2009 at 23:45
@jamie lee: Mate we have Park because SAF and UNited like the revunue from Asia in the sale of Park merchandise. What he doesn’t realise is that there are far better Asian players. Park has cost us in 3 finals now!
August 9th, 2009 at 23:48
@Matt: Nobody, and I mean NOBODY is a bigger Nani fan than Craig!
He is the Nani esque Dave, just as I am the Anderson Dave. 
As for Park, I will make it short. Without the ball, he may be in the top ten best players in the world. But when on the ball, he is as useful as a drunk homeless with one leg and an infected toe on the other.
If I remember correctly, didnt Fergie bid for Silva exactly 12 months ago? It was August, and after the Community Shield. But before the Newcastle game. Maybe Fergie is planning to make a bid for Silva, but I wouldnt hold my breath… If United actually managed to get Silva, our team may look like this:
VDS
Brown Rio Vidic Evra
Valencia Fletcher/Carrick Silva Nani
Rooney Berbatov/Owen
Silva is an exellent player, and can be used on the wing. When Nani is injured or suspended, he can play on the wing. When everyone is fit, he should be used as an AM(he would guarantee at least 15 goals himself!) next to a Carrick in the “normal” games, and next to Fletcher in the big games. Its a much stronger team than the one we have right now…
August 9th, 2009 at 23:49
@Matt: I agree mate, but SAF didn’t know UNTIL after the Rome final, just how much Barca valued Nani. That they deemed him good enough to play for them. SAF probably shit himself, after the way he leper-ised Nani last season, and so came out with the corker – Nani will play a big part for us next season. Why did it take a Barca bid though to make SAF see the great potential of Nani – the mind boggles mate!
August 9th, 2009 at 23:50
@Craig Mc: It was quite clear from your comments that you were, mate!
August 9th, 2009 at 23:52
@Footy4Eddy: If SAF actually admits he needs a couple of star buys, I will eat my hat = balaclava that is
August 9th, 2009 at 23:56
Nani is going to be better than ronaldo
August 9th, 2009 at 23:56
Fuck me, I spent the last hour and half watching Miss Kimberley (LUSH PUPPY) Walsh in concert with Girlsaloud. I tell you guys, she is pure woman, and no man will need viagra to keep up with this lady. She is out of this world pure gorgeousness – I would love her as my second wife, but alas we are only aloud one love, and the GF wouldn’t share me. I would however share her with the lush puppy, but please don’t tell her I said that. Oh the dreams we have eh lads!
August 9th, 2009 at 23:58
@Anthony Los: Anthony mi man, you are too, too wise. Lil man Nani – I hope he recovers soon!
August 10th, 2009 at 0:00
@NicoQB: Hahahahahahaha – Nico, like I said, comments that night coming out of Lager loutism
August 10th, 2009 at 0:00
@Craig Mc: And you tell me I have become a slave of my hormones?!
August 10th, 2009 at 0:02
@Footy4Eddy: Eddi mi man – nobody is bigger than LIL MAN NANI – Lil man – you do get that concept mate
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August 10th, 2009 at 0:03
@Anthony Los: Nani is going to be better than Maradona and Pele in one body, because guess what! Nani is not man- His healing will be faster than Jesus`, and that will prove that he truly is the son of God!
When you can shoot like that, beat a man like that and cross like that, you gotta wonder what wonders he will create.
August 10th, 2009 at 0:04
@Footy4Eddy: Mmmmmm but my feelings for Lush Puppy Miss Kimmie Walsh are very pure mate. More than just horny lust
. I’m dead if my missus sees this thread 
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August 10th, 2009 at 0:09
Latest news:Nani may not have a dislocated shoulder. Scan tomorrow will reveal damage.
Buy Silva now, stop fucking about.
August 10th, 2009 at 0:12
@Craig Mc:
Kimmie Walsh may be hot, but somehow I feel my Nani video gives you even more pleasure…
August 10th, 2009 at 0:12
@Craig Mc: @Footy4Eddy:
Haha
I think he will get better it might be paper talk that nani is out for ages cause it looked bad when it happened but some1 just said that he might return for the next game
I feel this season he scores 18 goals or more
August 10th, 2009 at 0:16
@Cyclops-Red: Latest news: Nani had a dislocated shoulder, but thanks to his power he has healed himself faster than Jesus Christ and will be ready to take on every opposition defender who stands in his way to greatness!
VIVA LA NANI!
VIVA LA NANI!
HE SHOOTS LIKE A HORSE
HE IS OUR PORTUGEEZ FORCE
VIVA LA NANI!
August 10th, 2009 at 0:16
@Grognard: You call it professional foul, we call it BEING a cheating bastard, whether it is Keano or Twat Ballack. The difference is to Keano it would have recd a RED CARD, to Ballack it was no recompense. We will fucking get him next time round, and kick him off the fucking pitch if necessary. See most United fans are not supportive of players from other clubs, we only support and back OUR OWN. So Ballck the fucking professional cheat can fuck off as far as most United fans are concerned, and you should understand that Grog!
August 10th, 2009 at 0:19
@Anthony Los: Nani will score 25 goals, get 25 assists and give opposition defenders headaches for years to come!
Seriously, if Nani gets up to 40 games this season he can easily get 20 goals. I read he is our first choice free-kick taker, and his corners are defo gonna turn into goals a few times. He has a deadly shot on him, and he can strike a penalty. He already has 1 goal, and it will be many more to come this season.