Jun 19
Manchester United 08/09 Away Kit Pics
The Sun has put up pictures of the Manchester United away kit for the 08/09 season.
I must say that I’m not really sure what to make of them. My first impressions go something like, “Meh!”. I sort of like the collar but the blue doesn’t sit too well with me. To be sure, I suppose this is the third kit apart from the existing home and away — despite what the Sun are saying. Although feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Thankfully we get to retain our home kit. Anyway, here are the pics if you’re interested.
Related items from Red Rants:
- Kit Update: Official Man Utd 07/08 Black Away Kit Pics
- Manchester United 08/09 Third Kit: It Really Is Better…
- Manchester United Officially Release Home Kit Video, Myspace Page
- Manchester United 07/08 Away Kit
- Kits
Tags: Daily Roundup · Manchester United Kits
June 19th, 2008 at 10:08
maybe ronaldo will stay now that we got him a white jersey
June 19th, 2008 at 10:08
Thanks RR…hope our black still exists ! that was stunning !
June 19th, 2008 at 10:18
I remember someone claiming that something similar will be launched as United’s new 3rd kit. Can’t recall where I saw it, but I remember the person who posted said it looked like a United States team jersey.
It really does look like it belongs to the US national team. Ugh.
It would be much better with the trim in all red. And shorts in black.
June 19th, 2008 at 10:21
Horrible.
I remember the same article acoramatic and i didn’t like it then either!!
June 19th, 2008 at 10:25
Yup, don’t like it. Black is much better. But if we score more goals in this kit, very well then…
June 19th, 2008 at 10:26
that tevez picture makes the jersey really nice.i prefer black though.
June 19th, 2008 at 10:29
I just don’t get the blue thing. I mean really, that’s as random as the green/yellow monstrosity a few years back.
What’s so wrong with red and black? It’s devilish right?
June 19th, 2008 at 10:31
The black away kit wont be next season. When you are at the line to get numbers and names on the back of the shirt at Old Trafford it said that you should remember that the black away kit wont be in the 2008/09 season. Ive seen better kits, but as long as it has the Manchester United emblem it is beautiful in my eyes.
More trouble for United. At the moment we are trying to keep Ronaldo and CQ at our club, we are trying to get other players and we face a really hard start to the Prem season. What we didnt need is an injury to one of our best players, but that is what has happened. Anderson played against Argentina last night in a WC(world cup, not toilet) qualifier. He injured his knee in a duel with Javier Mascherano(yes, the idiot that got sent off for telling the ref to fuck off at Old Trafford in march.). Some reports say its just a twist, some say its cruciate ligaments damage. I hope it isnt the latter! To have Anderson injured for the start of the season, when we play the likes of Pool and Arsenal, is a disaster. He will one of our most important players next season, and to see him own Gerrard and Fabregas would be a delight.
June 19th, 2008 at 10:33
i must be the only one then, im glad the clubs made a change…. all it ever is, is black, red, white… nice to introduct abit of blue.
June 19th, 2008 at 10:35
At least the yellow and green had a reason, commemorating the centenary of Newton Heath, the club that became Manchenster United. This is just random marketing driven nonsense.
June 19th, 2008 at 10:40
Are Nike changing the home jersey?
June 19th, 2008 at 10:43
Ehh…no, why would Nike do that? The home jersey is, and always will be, RED!
June 19th, 2008 at 10:54
Another rip off, hate my club but love my team!
June 19th, 2008 at 11:09
“meh” indeed. That is just not that nice. There is a much better fake white one with black trim in the style of our current two on redcafe. But due to the marketing machine that is MU I will feel obliged to buy it. I think that there is a blue kit coming out for Europe to commemorate 40 years since the first euro cup win. It looks amazing. It will probably be like the GK jersey from last season which I came very close to buying as its a good looking jersey. We may only wear it in Europe though. Also considering that we won the cup in 1967-68 why are they bringing it out for 2008-2009?
June 19th, 2008 at 11:24
Liam more fool you if you are influenced by the marketing machine that is the Glaziers debt, which the fans have to pay off.
It pisses me off that it is always the fans who get ripped off. We change a shirt now once a season which is a disgrace.
June 19th, 2008 at 11:31
on a more serious note instead of worrying about what colour panties we are wearing andy was injured and apparently its not looking good!!! and the bellend that fouled him was javier “mad masch” mascherano what a twat!! i loved the game he played against liverpool he owned gerrard and masch throw barry in and that’s rafa’s defensive midfield in the bin!! hope anderson is out for a few weeks and hopefully not a whole year!
June 19th, 2008 at 11:33
It’s ok, we’ve had worse to be sure. I hope it doesn’t replace the all-black one, although according to PrideOfManchester.com that was only for the 2007-08.
Why can’t they keep it simple?
Home: Red shirt, White shorts, Black/White socks
Away: All Black (always)
Third: use this one for kit experiments but keep the Home and Away colours as above
We’ve had some truly awful kits this decade
http://www.prideofmanchester.com/sport/mufc-kits7.htm
Only the 2006-07 Home, 2007-08 Home and 2007-08 Away are worthy.
June 19th, 2008 at 11:34
I’ve not seen the challenge, so can’t comment if it was fair or not, I’ll give Macherano the benefit of the doubt, because he’s quality and not that type of player.
Best wishes to Ando, he’s young so lets hope he’s invicible!
June 19th, 2008 at 12:04
oh and i loved that green/yellow monstrocity you were talking about
June 19th, 2008 at 12:10
Beachryan- Anderson is young, but in the autumn 206 he broke his leg. Last summer he didnt play until september, and got some knocks in the end of the season. Hopefully this is also a knock. If he is Okey, we will know tonight. Imaginge this: Portugal lose, Ronaldo says he wants to stay in United, gets new contract, Anderson only out for 1 week. All this in 12 hours!
June 19th, 2008 at 12:13
that’s very optimistic! the retards at madrid said that they want ronny to speak up as well i think he’ll stay on the basis he fucked if he says that he want’s to go and fergie & galzers says “screw u dickhead, sit on the bench for 4 years!!”
June 19th, 2008 at 12:17
Kit looks rubbish, although Voldy did say he likes playing in white…..
June 19th, 2008 at 12:21
Maybe they made this kit to keep Ronny at the club…
June 19th, 2008 at 12:22
i,ve seen stranger things happen red devil lets just wait and hope.. and celebrate next season again
June 19th, 2008 at 12:31
Beachryan – what type of player is Mascherano not? If you mean, he’s not the type that slaughters players, you’re terribly wrong. He’s exactly that type. I think, he’s shown in Liverpool that he’s more than willing to go in unfairly. He’s a good player, but he’s also very dirty and ill-tempered.
I think, the kit looks great. Changing colours on the away-kit is a way to refreshen the look, because the home-kit will always stay red, obviously.
June 19th, 2008 at 12:34
It looks a little like the England kit from 1999..
June 19th, 2008 at 12:34
This kit is just horrible. I won’t be buying one this season, I think I’ll stick with my all black Rooney jersey.
June 19th, 2008 at 12:36
well said tomas
June 19th, 2008 at 13:00
According to me this is to satisfy the whimsical nature and the fetish of Ronaldo of playing in “WHITES”…..probably now he’ll shut his trap and play for us!!
June 19th, 2008 at 13:11
I have to go back to my Glazier point the new strip Red, white and blue mmmm stars and stripes.
June 19th, 2008 at 13:17
Stephen – you hate your club but love your team? I don’t get it.
And btw – noone forces you to buy the new shirts every year. It’s an opportunity for the fans to buy something new and refresh their feelings for the club, and to support the club financially. Obviously the club wants to make money, but that’s kind of the basic thing of running a business.
June 19th, 2008 at 13:26
Anyone else think nike have just gotten lazy with their designs? Seems to me this kits just 02/03 + 06/07 = 08/09?
June 19th, 2008 at 13:38
Actually, this is completely the same design as the Brasilian home kit. Its just that the white shirt is yellow, and the red part on the neck is green.
June 19th, 2008 at 13:50
It’s a decent kit, though I think the white 06/07 away was much better. But it could be worse though guys: Liverpool have this nasty grey number for their away kit next season (similar to that infamous one we had in the mid-90’s), and Chelsea have this horrid plain black away kit too (they just don’t know how to kits do they, those rent boys….).
But for God’s sake, why didn’t they keep our black kit from last season???! THAT WAS SEXY!! A work of art that one was!! So what is the third kit then? I’ve heard it is blue but I really would have preferred us to retain the black one from last year as the 3rd, like Arsenal are doing with their white and redcurrant away shirt from last year.
Agreed with Uncle Roy, I would like to see black used as our primary colour (with red trim/piping) for the away kit from now on, and the third kit can alternate between blue and white each season. Black not only looks classy, but also looks imposing!
PS. I’d like to see us bring back that green and yellow kit as a 3rd for one season. I know many people don’t like that kit, but to me it was unique.
June 19th, 2008 at 14:08
I like it. I just looked at it on the official page, and put Rooney and # 10 on the back and it looked pretty good. Once they update the patches for CHAMPIONS! i’ll probably buy a long sleeve Rooney.
June 19th, 2008 at 14:11
No CR in the pictures. Does this tell you something…?
June 19th, 2008 at 14:19
Like to give Manic Mascherano the benefit of the doubt with that tackle on Andi, but can’t sorry. This is the same numb nuts Mascherano who thought he could out remonstrate the ref at Old Trafford, and got his bum kicked off the pitch for it. Would benefit L’Fool no end if Andi was nobbled for a good part of the season, if it was intent of Masch to do this, lets hope it fails eh?.
June 19th, 2008 at 14:39
Can’t they make the “AIG” logo any smaller – this makes it look even more worrying.
(29)frankie – CR7 is in Euro duty but Rio and Tevez are not.
June 19th, 2008 at 14:55
Good news?
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1054824_united_hopeful_over_anderson
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_3710878,00.html
June 19th, 2008 at 15:14
Yeh but evra is also in Euro Duty…He is still in picture..
Ronaldo gone, good enough!! Club is bigger than him
June 19th, 2008 at 15:22
frankly andersons injury is worrying.fans should be slow on new signings though.our team looks full,and we need a few young stars to step up.
June 19th, 2008 at 15:23
Have you seen the new goalkeeper shirt too?
http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/products/kit_selector.aspx?selector=229
June 19th, 2008 at 15:36
The Green/Yellow kit was one of our best ever. A classic kit. I loved the photo-shot with the squad decked out in false moustaches and bowler hats.
Umbro came out with some great kits (93-94 home, Green/Yellow, Black away) and truely awful (the Grey one!, the Sheffield Wed look-a-like, ) in the mid-90’s.
June 19th, 2008 at 15:38
also, the 2008-09 away kit would be better with white shorts, for some reason I never like football kits when the shorts have a darker colour than the shirts, e.g. white shirts/black shorts.
June 19th, 2008 at 15:39
samphrain: What about Evra then? Isn’t he meant to be at the Euros? I’m pretty sure these pictures were shot before the Euros (I’m guessing the photoshoot took place just after the CL Final) in which case Ronaldo could have modelled the kit. This might be a sign, since clubs usually make their best players model the new kits (I’m sure Ronaldo modelled last season’s home kit when it was launched). Why would he want to pass up the chance to wear his favoured white jersey anyway??
June 19th, 2008 at 15:43
One thing I do like about the pictures, is the MUFC logo in the background…
It’s not often United go for that since the ‘re-branding’ so that’s a nice tough!
June 19th, 2008 at 16:05
anyone when we are getting the new home kit this year or next?
June 19th, 2008 at 16:10
Tomas, you are obviously not a season ticket holder if you were you would see what I am saying.
Also with regards to its the choice of fans, well parents have to shell out more money each season for new stips for their children, which is not fair.
With my season ticket I suppoert the club already fecking financially thank you!!!!!
June 19th, 2008 at 16:15
Yeah but isnt Evra on Euro duty as well? Well God knows when this pic was taken…Or probably they were taken individually and photoshopped in or something..
Can’t wait until the Euro’s get over and we get some concrete news about transfers and all!
Huntelaar looked real impressive to me in the match against Romania. Held the ball up real well and sweetly laid it off for another player to just poke it into the net, but somehow they missed out. Decent finish with the 1st goal too..
June 19th, 2008 at 16:20
better news about anderson’s injury!
Check this
June 19th, 2008 at 16:31
Mihir, Huntelaar is top class, just what we need, especially if Saha goes on loan to Roma? seems a bit odd that one, what benefit to us is that?
June 19th, 2008 at 16:31
That would be the ultimate away strip for either Chelsea or Everton. I would prefer the away kit to be the exact reverse of the home kit. White shirt, red shorts and black socks.
June 19th, 2008 at 16:55
How about black shirt, white shorts and red socks? That would be the complete reverse!
June 19th, 2008 at 16:57
Nino, you are right, they should have modeled before Euro.
Seems Evra had a row with our old-rival viera in the tunnel… a lil déjà vu?
June 19th, 2008 at 17:05
I miss watching United play…
When is the next game? Is it Aberdeen or Africa?
June 19th, 2008 at 17:14
Aberdeen
June 19th, 2008 at 17:36
right, this calls for a “most ugly kit debate”, i’ll start, utd 08/09 away kit…
June 19th, 2008 at 17:38
nike arnt very ORIGINAL are they.
June 19th, 2008 at 17:40
The shirt could have been worse. We could have had the coulor of the Chelsea 2008 away kit, the Barca orange and yellow kit, The current Croatia kit, the grey kit we worn in the 90s…We will get used to it. I dont think United are about fasion, tehy are about winning.
June 19th, 2008 at 18:02
Mmmm, little deviation for a minute, forgive me, but does anyone think United should be giving Carlos Quiroz the assurances he is seeking to become the next United Manager post Fergie. Otherwise, why should he jeopardise his future by refusing Portugal?. I personally think he has done a hell of a lot for United, and deserves a chance after Fergie. He has been loyal, refusing other job offers an all!.
June 19th, 2008 at 18:06
most ugly kit = the 2005-06 away kit (blue with red trim)
June 19th, 2008 at 18:22
haha when i saw the kit, i was thinking ‘i have seen this before’ and dan on comment 58 proved it… haha i actually own that kit….
any blue kit has yet to impress me… i hate the blue kits infact,
we are red black and white…. nvr blue…
June 19th, 2008 at 18:45
Wink: The 2002-03 blue third kit was pretty good in my opinion. It had the Vodafone sponsor and the player name and number in this wicked metallic silver colour too! We wear blue kits to commemorate the first European Cup triumph back in ‘68, which we won wearing that colour, so it is part of our heritage.
Grognard: I think you have a point. Now that you mention it, I have NEVER seen any United kit with RED SHORTS or even SOCKS. A reverse away strip would look pretty awesome, but this kit with blue shorts provides a better contrast/deviation from the home kit methinks.
Uncle Roy: Seconded. That 05-06 blue kit had a vile colour contrast and was horrible overall, even more so when the AIG logo was on it.
June 19th, 2008 at 18:46
Not too keen on this kit compared to the black one. I’m sure that I will get used to it in time though, looks like Nike are getting a bit lazy with their designing though.
Our colours should always be: Red, Black, White. Apart from on special occasions (ie The Newton Heath green and gold)
Unless the blue is used to commemorate our very first European Cup win I cannot really see a good reason for it apart from marketing.
But look on the bright side, it looks quite similar to Russia’s flag (colour-wise), and what is the capital of Russia?
June 19th, 2008 at 18:52
apparently there are white shorts too.
http://www.soccer.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=1802&pcount=&Product_Id=456943
June 19th, 2008 at 18:59
i can’t post a link for some reason but if you go to soccer.com and click on manchester united, you can see them.
June 19th, 2008 at 19:07
Was just on the official United site and they are running ’scouting reports’ on some of the best young talent at Euro 2008. There’s detailed reports on Andrei Arshavin, Ibrahim Afellay, Arda Turan and Ivan Rakitic today, analysing each player’s strengths and weaknesses. I think the Club has realised that the end of the road has been reached with a certain CR7 and they are profiling his possible replacement/s. I could be wrong though….
June 19th, 2008 at 19:08
well thank God anderson is not out for long, i always thought there is nothing worse than a scouser, now and Argentinian scouser is even worse JM needs to be killed a la RR last blog post, i hate the goofy grinned buck toothed idiot, and would have hated him even more if he got injured, and bloody hell dunga needs to be fired, if there was one thing i could give him the benefit of the doubt is his ability to beat the idiots, now he can’t even do that, whilst making me miss valuable sleep, i want dunga fired ASAP, replace him with a goat, he could probably do a better job, Garrincha is probably turning in his grave at the moment wathing this monstrosity, the beautiful game he created for the canarinha tarnished by this immbecile, RANT OVER
moving on to united, i kinda like the kit, but the black and red will always be my 3rd favourite kit, behind the blue and red and the almighty RED of united
June 19th, 2008 at 19:10
Craig MC, I agree with you about CQ!
June 19th, 2008 at 19:12
guys check this out if you’ve not seen it before….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz3yLkHHpKs&eurl=http://a-kick-in-the-grass.blogspot.com/2008_06_01_archive.html
June 19th, 2008 at 19:21
My favorite United kits:
1st. Every RED home kit since 2001.
2nd. The black away for 2007/08.
3rd. The blue and red away kit for 2005/06. I dont understand why people dont like it! Its a great kit, very cool. But the black away kit for last season was the best away kit, EVER!
June 19th, 2008 at 19:21
Mr Muhozi – LOL at your post mate. That was one hell of a rant you wanted to get off your chest about Brazil – pure passion mate. So it was a real boring game then?.
Tom F – thanks mate. I really hope they give CQ his chance, because he has worked so hard in the United cause, especially in the good will we have with the Portuguese clubs, and the good players we got from them, which he had a great deal to do with.
June 19th, 2008 at 19:27
Krishnan- Holy shit, I just pissed in my pants! That is awsome! The guy that made that video is a pure genious! HALLELUJAH!
June 19th, 2008 at 19:27
Hehe!
Evra: Surely a future United legend! After the Italy game he seemed to be having issues with Keano’s old friend Vieira.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loCUeWdNgDo
By the way, doesn’t anybody think they’ve gone over the top with photoshop with these away kit pictures. They look very fake.
June 19th, 2008 at 19:45
is it just me or someone else also feels the german team looks like bunch of extras from that movie 300 (about hte spartans)! Even their No. 21 looks like the spartan king Leonidas from that movie!!!
imagine ronaldo as xerexes the great!!!
they could rahter have taken on a team of 100 portuguese tonite to make another movie
June 19th, 2008 at 19:49
maybe this is the white kit that ronaldo was saying that he want to play in.lol
June 19th, 2008 at 19:51
CRAIGMC- well in my 17 years on this earth, i have been fortunate to see brasil win 2 world cups appear in 3 finals, win two confederations cups and 5 copa americas , i always thought luxemburgo was the worst manager i have seen for brasil, but dunga regardless of his victory in the last copa america has been pretty poor at best, making teams we should be beating look like all stars, brasil last night, has no clue on how to play football ,leyton orient probably plays better football than the canarinha at the moment, he does not know his strongest squad, plays players that grognard mentioned in his last post would never play for brasil under the likes of scolari except anderson , i honestly do feel he would play for most brasil squads except 1982, 1970 and the Didi years as the midfield may force him to play on the bench in a platoon role, i don’t know who can replace dunga, as scolari was my number one choice, but he joined the chavs so that option is gone, now i have no idea who but i just want dunga gone before 2010 world cup
on to united, as much as i hate to say it, but aguero could actually be a decent buy for united, everything in my heart tells me he could become a stretford end legend, but his nationality is what makes me not want him, tevez god bless his heart, was able to win me over even though it took forever (the blackburn game away equaliser) and now i consider him to be one of my favourite players even though he is argentinian, and i have brasilian roots but aguero is now top of my wish list
June 19th, 2008 at 20:00
Until midnight, I am a German! GO GERMANY! Make Ronaldo cry(but dont injure him!)!
June 19th, 2008 at 20:09
YYEEEESSSSSS! Germany lead Portugal by 1 goal to 0. A United style attack, 1-touch five times to Podolski who crosses low to Shweinshteiger(?) who scores from 6 yards. Great goal, Ronaldo frustrated, I am happy, COME ON GERMANY!
June 19th, 2008 at 20:11
Germany 2-0 Portugal! Klose! Header from free-kick, Ronaldo loses his marker(Klose) who scores.
June 19th, 2008 at 20:13
[Muhozi]
Have to agree mate. I have also been a Brazil fan for as long as I remember. The only reason I used to like Argentina was because of Maradona and most of my memories are hazy at best because I was way too young and relied more on my dad’s stories on his greatness.
Back to Dunga, I thought when he was initially appointed he was a good choice because he injected some amount of discipline that was lacking in the Brazil team of the last world cup. But now the team plays become boring more like Mourinho’s Chelsea (towards his last days.)
June 19th, 2008 at 20:15
wow that didnt take long
now put nani in let him get one and then ronny is so sad he has to call his daddy saf for comfort.
June 19th, 2008 at 20:18
YESSSS GERMANY, thank you so much, now we can get an answer out of ronaldo, but please no turkey style late heroics please
June 19th, 2008 at 20:21
damn right gator! Ronaldo is to blamed for letting klose get that clear header. Absolutely piss poor defending from a guy who has such brilliant heading ability. Schweinsteiger is playing AMAZING. 1 goal and 1 assist already!
Grognard, Christmas is early it seems
June 19th, 2008 at 20:31
2-1 I thought Ronaldo blew it but Gomes was there. I missed the first half hour so can someone tell me how both teams are playing although I’m sure eamonn dunphy will be doing so quite soon
June 19th, 2008 at 20:33
2-1 to Germany at half time…seems like its going to be one hell of a game! nuno gomes’s commitment and passion is infectious. Clear reason why he is captain and Ronaldo is not.
June 19th, 2008 at 20:40
RedRanter- fair enough dunga bought in discipline which was not really that much needed, what brasi needed was an injection of youth and hunger, which parreria refused to add be it he was not brave or did he believe they would have much impact, the 2006 squad was a case of “we’ve done it in 02 no biggie if we dont win it, we already have a medal, there was a lot of talent on the bench who was hungry for their medal, but the opportunity is now passed. That was the past and regardless of it, our future looks very bleak due to our currents manager inability to construct a team capable of playing joga bonito, calling dungas style mourinho is an insult to jose, as at least he won games and lit up the game with his arrogance which made his team hated and interesting to watch, dunga is more like avram grant minus the goofey look
June 19th, 2008 at 20:41
Guys; Don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched. Just when you think Germany has it wrapped up Ronaldo awakens and it’s 2-1 and it should have been 2-2. You know how great Ronaldo is? He is absolutely terrifying when your are rooting against him and not for him. He’s literally scaring the crap right out of me whenever he touches the ball, which fortunately hasn’t been that often. Germany’s back four look awful. Mertesacker and Metzelder are great when it comes to high balls but they look very slow when Portugal work a lot of 1/2’s and when Ronaldo makes vertical runs. I also think the referee is an idiot. He’s letting too much grabbing, clutching and late tackling go for both teams.
I think Germany is playing similar to the way United play in the CL but the difference is their CB’s are not as good as Rio and Vidic. I still think they are quality defenders but just a bit slow. And where was Friedrich on the Portuguese goal. He ended up giving Ronaldo two easy shots on goal, one that was saved but let to the goal and the other just wide. They need to get tighter at the back and put more pressure on Portugal as they try to come out of their own end. They are sagging back in that United style zone defense but the problem is that they are not as good as United defensively. This could cost them. I’m hoping for another counterattack goal to put this game on ice.
For me Ballack has been very good so far.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:04
I love Michael Ballack. The best header in the world. Germany is winning this game based on Big Phil’s biggest concern, Germany’s superiority in height.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:05
3-1 horrible defending again by Portugal and Ballack had a free header. Looked a bit of a foul though
June 19th, 2008 at 21:06
here comes Nani
Did you see Ronaldo get the armband put on him by Gomes? It was like Gomes was his servant
June 19th, 2008 at 21:11
If we dont get an answer from Ronaldo tonight, he can rot in hell! That is if Portugal lose. Which they thankfully look like doing. Woow, Nani just made a great run just to be stopped by some German defender. Ballack has been awsome so far. Hius goal should have been disallowed though.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:13
Fuck it I hate portugal Let them loose bloody wankers;Ronaldo Sucks
June 19th, 2008 at 21:19
Nani is sporting some nice new facial hair
he also just got a smack in the face with the ball that looked sore
June 19th, 2008 at 21:19
[Liam]
I dont think there was anything disrespectful about that. Its not something new for a captain going off the field to personally put on the armband on the deputy.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:22
Hope Fergie Buys Schweinsteiger and Sells that ungrateful arse Ronaldo;Well Big Phil really sucks at being a coach
I am not a bit worried about chelscum having him as a Coach…Scared of Ballack though….
June 19th, 2008 at 21:25
I want Podolski in United! He has gotten even better!
June 19th, 2008 at 21:26
oh well I guess I overreacted I just thought it was unusual
We really should sign Podolski. Although if Gomez goes to Bayern then Klose may become available but maybe that’s a dream…
3-2 Nani crosses from the left and sets up Postiga. Should be a good finish now
June 19th, 2008 at 21:27
I am absolutely loving it! Not the kit. Never the away kit. But the fact that Germany is really spanking Ronaldo and co. It will be so great to see him at a press conference within the next 72 hours. Of course, he’ll probably be complaining about something or other. But perhaps he might just say something about his future. Maybe he’ll realize that he can’t be the same footballer if he doesn’t have the class players around him like he does at United. He’s now seen what happens when he is surrounded by names and numbers rather than team-players. Then again, he might have just meant after the entire Euro, not just after Portugal is knocked out.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:29
really a dull kit i must say but then i never liked white
anyways germany is winning it
edit portugal pulls one back 2-3 at the moment
June 19th, 2008 at 21:32
Good for Nani, perfect cross. Still want Portugal to lose though…
June 19th, 2008 at 21:34
OMG Nani came on and is dazzling with the ball at his feet. Such a great cross for the Postiga goal. We need to get a tall striker to get on the end of Nani’s crosses because I maintain he is one of the best crossers of the ball we have.
Deco has impressed me a lot this tournament. I know he is old, but I’d love for us to be able to rotate Scholes and Deco next season and when Scholes retires still have Deco as that experienced midfield playmaker
June 19th, 2008 at 21:37
i dont know why anyone would want podolski or Schweinsteiger. Schweinsteiger isnt half as good as ronaldo and podolski can only score in international games hes rubbish at club level
June 19th, 2008 at 21:37
Good riddance to bad rubbish!
June 19th, 2008 at 21:40
Feel so sorry for the lad Nani. The guy deserved a starting place. He looked terrific. Can’t wait to see him next season.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:41
Finally Ronaldo is a loser (of a competition), for the moment at least. I’m sure many of you would say he’s a loser in general, and I can’t say I disagree. Maybe (I hope) it will bring him to his senses.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:41
Right, Ronaldo. over to you. red or white. future legend or turncoat. place your bets now!
June 19th, 2008 at 21:41
great piece of play from the boy wonder. Ronaldo was non existant tonight?!
Thought bosingwa looks decent but not too botherd we missed out on him.
…..ALL YOU NANI HATERS OUT THERE- Looks like were losing Cristiano so you all better get a grip n get behind
young Nani!!
Dont understand the ammount of critiscm he recieves?!
Getting a bit anxious would love a cheeky signing sometime soon!
June 19th, 2008 at 21:41
now we can finally hear what ronaldo will say now about his future.hopefully he remains at manchester united. he said that he want to play in white so now manchester have a white kit. so he can decide to stay.hope fully we can start buying some new players soon before we go away on tour matches.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:42
grognard, the germans arn’t much better you know…
June 19th, 2008 at 21:44
I thought Ballack was absolutely fantastic as was Schweinsteiger but the guy I love the most is Podolski. The guy has two leg injuries and he still looks dangerous. That long effort that missed by a few inches would have been the goal of the century had it gone in. Fergie, are you watching? Everything does start and end in Portugal and Brazil. Do me a favor and buy a German lad or two or three.
Loved seeing Ronaldo completely disappear in the second half. Now will he also disappear from OT. At this point I really don’t care. I found myself flipping him the finger throughout the game and cursing his existence. How can I possibly learn to love this guy again should he decide to stay? He’s so dead to me. And the thought of Ballack once again patrolling Chelsea’s midfield instead of ours makes me sick. Between him and Ronaldo there needs to be some kind of role reversal. The curses I threw at Ronaldo today cannot be healthy.
Germany need to tighten up defensively if they plan to win this.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:45
Well, now I hope Turkey get through to face Germany. But we probably won’t get much farther than that…
June 19th, 2008 at 21:45
dan; The Germans won and Portugal is going home. Good enough for me.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:48
i hope scolari makes as many stupid decisions when he takes over at chelsea, with ferreira left back, one player up front and everyone running around like headless chickens from free kicks
June 19th, 2008 at 21:50
TurkishRED; Turkey need to play well in the first half against Croatia. If they do they will win. Croatia plays well in the first 30 minutes then they hang on. Keep them off the scoreboard early and I think they can be beat. All this talk about Bilic is such nonsense. He hasn’t done shit yet. He beat Germany when they were asleep. Big deal! Lets see what happens if they meet Germany again. Anyway, I think Turkey will beat Croatia 1-0.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:51
Grognard: at least Germans don’t want to jump ship for Real Madrid. I’ve never heard of a German whose dream it was to play in a white strip. Fergie better keep that in mind when he signs someone.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:53
So far I haven’t seen Turkey play a good first half. We better do that against Croatia and get an early lead because I can’t hope for another miraculous comeback.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:53
Liam; Klose is to old for United to consider. He’s 30, so yes that is just a dream. Besides, I have always preferred Podolski over both Klose and Gomez and I still fancy Gomez. He wasn’t any worse in this tourney than Benzema.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:55
I am delirious!. I am also so glad that so called Master Coach Scolari didn’t have the nous to play Nani from the start, because there was a great possibility of a different result. I did not want a different result, I was routing for Germany all night. I won’t be against Holland though, because I want Holland to win the thing, if they beat Russia in the next game that is. CR7 had a shite night, where was he in the 2nd half, did he play can anbody tell me, because if he did, he disappeared better than the Scarlet Pimpernel. So some of you are beginning to realise the impact of Nani with his crosses into the box. I tell you, my heart was in my mouth, because he got a good few really telling crosses into the box, and with better forward players, he may have had 2 or 3 assists – come on Little Man, you were the best winger on the pitch on the night. Yes Grog yes!!!!!!. Party time!. Well until and if your team play Holland lol!.
June 19th, 2008 at 21:56
almost a perfect day sports
yankees win
i get to see mariano rivera pitch
portual loses
now all that is left is CR7 answer
June 19th, 2008 at 21:59
TurkishRed; The allure for Spain is not therte because the two countries have nothing in common culturally or historically. German’s number one destination if they are to leave Germany has always been Italy. They love the country and the lifestyle there. With that said, a second choice could become England if the English could get past their bias and forget WW2. Ballack’s success at Chelsea will open doors for others and I think there is a good possibility we will see either Podolski or Schweinsteiger or both play in the EPL sooner rather than later. The EPL is the trendy place to go now so I can see them giving it a try. Wouldn’t United do well with either of them or Lahm? Of course not. Not when we can settle for Fabiano, Santa Cruz and Jermaine Jones. I hope those are just bad rumors because if they are, Fergie is losing it in my opinion. All three of those players are shite.
June 19th, 2008 at 22:03
Craig;
They seek him here they seek him there
Those Spaniards seek him everywhere
Is he in the game or is he in Hell
That damned invisible Ronaldosmell
June 19th, 2008 at 22:04
Grognard: Do you have some proper grounding for this frequently voiced belief that there is a WW2 bias?
June 19th, 2008 at 22:05
im sick of hearing how united should sign podolski, if we were to sign players based on their international record then we would have stern john up front.judge players on their club form because thats what counts
June 19th, 2008 at 22:06
I was being sarcastic about Germans and Spain, but what I mean is that Fergie is probably realizing the importance of national loyalty because he has never seen anyone like Ronaldo who wants to leave.
Right now, I almost want any striker to be signed for United, just so long as we do sign a striker. Hopefully though, we will be rewarded for our long wait with someone really good. Not just good on paper, but good when playing with Tevez or Rooney.
June 19th, 2008 at 22:17
Yes I do JB. I have known several people from English backgrounds who absolutely hate Germans. There are some very bitter memories by many people who lived through that era and they have spread that bias and bitterness to their young. I think Fergie is one of those recipients. I could be wrong but that’s my personal belief. The proof is in the pudding. Very few Germans have played in England since the doors were spread wide open and none have played for United.
June 19th, 2008 at 22:19
Great things come in pairs. First Germany wins and now I check my mail and see that my 3 dvd Cantona compilation has arrived. I go from the Konig’s to the King in one beat. Luv it.
June 19th, 2008 at 22:19
well Fergie wanted Ballack. Maybe he just doesn’t rate the german league…
June 19th, 2008 at 22:27
I liek the idea of Podolski as our nr.20. Ole is a legend, but I rate Podolski that high that he deserves a legend number if he joins us. Please, Im begging you Fergie, BUY PODOLSKI!
June 19th, 2008 at 22:28
Traverse; He didn’t want him bad enough. He doesn’t rate the German League? Perhaps he better because that nation has won 3 Euros and 3 World Cups not to mention 6 CL’s. What Portugal is a greater league? Or France? PLEASE!
June 19th, 2008 at 22:28
I watched the game tonight and it didnt disappoint. Plenty of goals, good attacking football and portugal lost. I dont hate Ronaldo, i just want him back home and safe to hear his side of the story. Now that he is out of the Euros, maybe we can get some closure to this subject that has dogged our best season since 1999
About the match, I PERSONALLY thought that Ronaldo was so so, the thing about his play is that it needs to be built up on solid industry, the kind that rooney and co provide, and he is the clinicality and finesse that sums up a great move. I know he creates them as well, but i doubt he can ever shine without a strong back bone(to tie it in with why i think real is a shit choice for him). But not to say that portugal was poor, in fact i thought they were good. In Open play they dominated germany.
Nani was good, but i think he was trying to do too much in a short space of time, i agree if he was put on earlier, we might have seen a different result.
Sadly, chelsea factors in the match(a team i hate); bosingwa looked good, attack wise and defensively.
Paulo Ferret was horrible, that made me smile
Scolari, the next chelsea manager was frustrated, and the commentator said that “the picture tells the whole tale, a tale of near misses. and tonights story of near misses against Germany” May he enjoy a career of misses all the time with chelsea.
Germany:
Poldolski was good, kept up his standard of performances. I think he was a deserving winner, even if portugal dominated large spaces of play.
Sweinstieger was MOTM for me, I liked his attitude of coming back from a embaressing sending off to score one, create two. he was a player on fire tonight.
Ballack was pretty much an ordinary holding midfielder for me tonight. I dont like chelsea and hence im glad he was silenced.
Lahm, in contract to bosingwa was not so great, but i could see his solidity. as a transfer prospect, I am still unsure. on tonights perofmance, i am sad we didnt get bosingwa, and if we got lahm, it seems like second best. but i must clarify that this is only based on this match.
oh, nino, thanks for the bit of trivia about the significance of blue. but i still dont think it is nice. it is just an opinion though. but i think we can all agree that the AIG logo in red on the blue shirt was the worse kit we ever had.
June 19th, 2008 at 22:28
Good news, Andersons injury isnt serious. He might play on Sunday! Thta means he is defo ready for the League start.
June 19th, 2008 at 22:30
RedDevil; I’ll second that motion.
June 19th, 2008 at 22:40
Grognard: Yes but consider this. How many high profile Spainish players were in the PL prior to Benetiz’s arrival? Very few. How many at United before Pique? None.
Players from Portugal? United had none before Ronaldo. Brazilians? The first was Kleberson in 2003. Italians? Rossi and Taibi, thats it. Germany hasn’t been the only nation neglected by United in terms of recruitment.
I just had a look at the German squad roster and there are only three players plying their trade outside of Germany (2 in Spain and Ballack). Could the reason for a lack of Germans in the PL not simply be a lack of exports fom the Bundesliga in a similiar fashion to Italy rather than some 50 year old grudge?
June 19th, 2008 at 22:41
[Grognard]
WW2 has nothing to do with the lack of Germans in the premier league. This is the age where money talks in the league, so managers look for quality irrespective of where they come from. The difference here is that Germans haven’t been producing as much eye-popping talent as Portugal or Spain — let’s face it, Germany were under a slump after Euro ‘96 and their 2002 WC run was against the odds. Whatever talent was left was invariably poached by Bayern. Because when there is talent, managers in the Premier League want it, however they come, because the stakes are so high. As a matter of fact, there has been a fair number of players who lit up the German league and have come to the Premiership in recent years — although they aren’t German. Hleb, Berbatov, Rosicky for instance.
I’m sure there will be a lot of Germans who will come to England in future and it’s surprising there hasn’t been many (apart from Klinsmann, Lehmann, Ballack) but I think the Germans are also proud people who prefer to stay at/move to Bayern rather than other clubs.
But WW2 has nothing to do with players not moving; it’s like saying man descending from apes is the cause for global warming — man has been contributing to global warming by his actions, but his evolving from the apes has got nothing to do with it.
June 19th, 2008 at 22:59
JB; I honestly don’t think so. The EPL is strongly represented today by many Frenchman, African’s, Dutch, Spaniards, Portuguese etc. The fact that there are few Germans has always made me wonder why? Germans have no interest in playing anywhere but in three countries. England, Spain and Italy. They mostly go to Italy because they are welcome there and treated like Gods. The fact that few are there right now is just because Italy is going through a phase where South Americans are the flavor of the week. As for United, there is no doubt in my mind that Fergie holds a bias. He would never admit it but there is one. In twenty years we have had so many nationalities play for United. Not once in all those twenty years did Fergie see it fit to sign A German player. And are you going to say to me that in 20 years there were not any German players good enough to play for us? No excuse. It’s been a callous snub of a great footballing nation by United and there is no excuse.
RR; How many years has Fergie been in charge? Certainly not since 1996 when Germany was not in a slump and were in fact crowned European Champions with players who never signed for Bayern like Sammer, Moeller, Bierhoff and others. And if they were with Bayern so what? Wassn’t Hargo with Bayern too? We got him because Fergie wanted him bad enough. Why didn’t he try for the Babbels, Ziege’s, Scholl’s or other players who were outstanding at the time? Yes Germans are proud people but the many Germans I know love to travel and love adventure. If you seek to have them, they will leave Germany. Philip Lahm came out and said he was interested in going to the EPL. Did Fergie pounce when he had the chance? NO. Instead he let Klinsmann convince Lahm to stay put. I love Fergie but nobody is going to convince me I am wrong about this one. I’ve known a few older Englishman and Scotsman in my time who are similar old Scholl people like Fergie and they all don’t care for Germans. My father also hated their guts to my chagrin. He might have been Greek but he fought for the RAF in the war because he was actually born in Canada and moved to England for a short time as a boy. When the war broke out he escaped Greece and made it to North Africa where he joined the RAF. In his eyes as well as all his buddies, there was no such thing a sa good German. And he had a lot of friends who were English by heritage. Fergie is almost 70. There is a strong chance he has had some of that bias and hatred served to him and it has shaped him. If I’m wrong I’m wrong but the proof is in the pudding. Go sign a German Fergie and prove me wrong. I dare You!
Trust me RR, you are too young to know about this kind of crap. I was surrounded by it but fortunately not shaped by it. Although I do dislike most things French. Yet I love Napoleon. But then again, he was Corisican.
June 19th, 2008 at 22:59
Grognard : It’s nothing to do with how many cups the national team have won…. as a team Germany are always more effective than the sum of their parts… maybe Fergie doesn’t think there have been many united class players? Ballack is world class, no doubt, and we tried and failed to get, but out of the current squad, who do you reckon would get into the United team? Sweinstieger maybe in the squad?
And anyway, Klinsman is still loved big time by spurs. There are no grudges based around old battle lines imho.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:06
Really? Fergie has never buyed a German? I didnt know that. I thought he had at least bought one.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:12
[Grognard]
No excuse? Why? Because Fergie won 10 premierships? And is perhaps the greatest British manager?
To be pedantic, we were after Ballack but he shunned us for Chelsea. Other than that the premiership wasn’t as attractive for top talent until the last few years — Spain and Italy were better destinations.
So you could talk of the last 5-6 years.
Plus in those days Bayern were a huge force in Europe and you think it would have been easy to entice the likes of Bierhoff from a then European powerhouse?
I think it’s coincidence. I can’t wrap around to this to be some sort of a conscious conspiracy against the Germans. Historically in the premiership the managers brought a wealth of talent from their country. Benitez the Spanish, Queiroz brought Portuguese.
I am not going to try to convince you because we are poles apart on this. Just saying how I see it. If Fergie was interested in Ballack then surely there is no WW2 related thinking in his head?
June 19th, 2008 at 23:15
One little comment by me which is based on my personal feelings and a shit storm is created. WHY?
June 19th, 2008 at 23:16
Grognard: What proof is in the pudding? Did he have a grudge against Brazil and Portugal until 2003? What about the Argies, he must have hated them up until recently. And he obviously has a thorough dislike for the Spainish, since our only Spainard had been booted out the door. There have been a few ‘callous snubs’ handed out over his reign
And why didn’t he try for Babbel or Ziege, because there was no need for them at the time.
As for the shit storm, its not as if you haven’t started off a few yourself.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:20
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=743813
June 19th, 2008 at 23:21
Traverse; On the current German squad I would be very happy if we signed any of the following players. Schweinsteiger, Podolski, Gomez, Frings (TOO OLD), Ballack, Lahm, Fritz, Neuer, Adler, and there are about a half dozen who are not on the team that I would look at seriously. And if we didn’t already have Rio or Vidic I’d be happy with any of their CB’s too. I watch these guys week in and week out and I know what they are capable. There is a lot of quality in Germany unfortunately, the clubs don’t have enough money to go out and buy top foreigners to help the Bremen’s, Stuttgart’s and Schalke’s be more competitive in Europe. Lets put it this way, Germany has way more individual talent at their disposal than England do. Enough said.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:22
[Grognard]
It’s not a shit storm, it’s good natured debate without any name calling.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:23
I’m guilty today of simply asking the valid question WHY NOT? Instead I am stuck in a race riot that I never created. United and the EPL created it as they have no excuse for ignoring players from a football superpower.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:24
[JB]
As for the shit storm, its not as if you haven’t started off a few yourself.
Easy on the accusations mate.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:25
Sportinglife: http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/08/06/19/EURO_Por-Portugal_Ronaldo.html&TEAMHD=soccer
To be continued….FUCK! This is really a pain in the arse!
June 19th, 2008 at 23:25
[Grognard]
You are not guilty. You brought up a point that’s being argued here. Is there a problem with that?
No name calling, just pure old fashioned debate.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:26
Fair enough JB. I’m not interested in arguing this point any longer due to the fact that we are both set in our opinions and I see no way of those positions changing. So I’ll give it a rest thanks.
RR Sorry but I see it as a shit storm and it’s blowing in my direction. I’d rather spend the rest of the day basking in the German win rather than debating something I don’t feel like debating about. I made my position clear. Why do some of you feel that challenging me on that will change based on my obvious strong feelings on it? I see no point in it other than to aggravate me. Yet I made a legitimate challenge and questioned Jouhnsom33 over something yesterday and got reprimanded for it. How was what I did any different to how I am being challenged now?
Unbelievable!
June 19th, 2008 at 23:35
Is Germany as a nation liked by the general British population (especially the english)? The simple answer is no but it really has very little to do with WW2. There’s thousands of years of history between the two countries in political, military and sporting arenas that have built up a natural rivalry that you will find present between most rival countries in simerlar geographic locations.
However that doesnt mean that all Brits hate all Germans, you can have a natural hatred for their country but that doesnt mean it spreads down to a personal level. I mean the national rivarly between France and England is much greater yet Evra is well liked by United fans and Cantona is worshipped.
Anyway on Podolski, like Huntalaar he isnt the answer imho. He may be great but we need a striker who is 100% ready to play in the Premiership and that means a striker with a proven EPL pedigree which is why someone like Santa Cruz is a great option. He may not have cut it in Germany in your eyes but he has shown he has what it takes to do well in the English league. The chance of him providing a valid option is significantly higher than players without this pedigree who may have to settle in the country and into the playing style which is vastly different. Just look at Hargreaves who admitted that he struggled to adapt to the pace and intensity of the English game.
Your Podolski’s and co surely have to be 4th striker options not 3rd striker options as theres a major unknown factor about them which you really don’t want to be reliant on immediatly
June 19th, 2008 at 23:39
Ronaldo still not decided. Fuck, how long will this take. Just when we expect an answer, he just delays it. This is getting really annoying!
Sportinglife.com:
“Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo has hinted very strongly that he is looking to leave the European champions for Real Madrid this summer.
The 23-year-old, following Portugal’s 3-2 defeat to Germany in the quarter-finals of Euro 2008, spoke about his club future.
“In two or three days time I will announce my future because the tournament is over for me,” he said in Portuguese after the game.
“I will speak to Manchester United.
“I will try to reach an agreement and we will see.”
Ronaldo helped fire United to a Premier League and Champions League double this season.
When asked if he has made a decision regarding a move to Real Madrid, he replied: “No, not yet.”
The winger, one of the world’s top players, is still under contract with the Red Devils but Spanish champions Real have been in hot pursuit of him since the end of the season.”
To be continued….
June 19th, 2008 at 23:42
Oh BTW United have signed a German in the past, as recently as 2005 to be precise. He is as far as I know still on our books. The player in question is GK Ron-Robert Zieler
June 19th, 2008 at 23:43
SkySports:
Ronaldo also revealed he has been carrying a foot injury for the past three months.
He added: “I’m going to have an operation now. I have had a small problem for about three months, in my foot.
“I’ll have the operation and then have a good recovery period.”
June 19th, 2008 at 23:49
[Grognard]
Since you asked here’s you answer. You said johnsom was not a real fan of Wayne Rooney. You passed judgement on him. And that was the only thing I was against, not the rest of your argument.
Whereas here, JB asked you on what basis you thought WW2 is a factor. That IS a fair question. He questioned your belief.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:49
Santa cruz scoring 19 goals in the epl is far from shite. This Is a tough league to score in(just ask forlan)
And sell ronaldo, get ramos sneijder plus cash and then give the right wing to nani he is ready.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:52
[wakey]
You are right. How did I even forget that?
Here’s his profile
June 19th, 2008 at 23:55
I say sell Ronaldo, get 75 million plus Sneijder. Buy Podolski and Huntelaar and remove the Glazer bill.
Next season formation:
VDS
Neville Rio Vida Evra
Nani Hargreaves Anderson Sneijder/Podolski(has played well there!)
Tevez/Podolski/Huntelaar Rooney
subs: TK, Brown, Oshea, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Podolski/Huntelaar.
Amazing team.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:57
[RedDevil]
If only dreams mirror real life.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:58
Hey, If they want Ronaldo that bad we should take as much as possible from them.
June 19th, 2008 at 23:59
How were you expecting an answer immediately after the game. You cant make a decision on a hypothetical situation and you can’t make a decision on something you have no control of. TBH the fact he hasn’t declared he wants to join Real already is probably a good thing as its clearly a sign he isnt utter desperate to leave but content to either stay if United want to keep hold of him or fulfil his dream if they want to cash in. If he really wanted to leave surely he would be responding now to engeneer a move
June 19th, 2008 at 23:59
Hey, another good reason to buy Podolski. He can also be rated as a pole…
June 20th, 2008 at 0:02
Wakey- I was hoping for an answer tonight or tomorrow morning cause I wont have any connection to United news until 29th of June. Hope he stays, but I really doubt that now.
June 20th, 2008 at 0:13
[wakey]
Engineering moves aren’t always done by straight talk. I was expecting a decision after his 3 week holiday but he said that he’ll say it in 2-3 days which is a surprise.
From what he’s said, it looks like he wants a pay-rise and has been content to let things play out by itself so far. It is what I am disappointed about. (not the pay rise bit, but the content to let other scramble for him rather than him having to make a choice.)
June 20th, 2008 at 0:22
Ok more quotes from Reuters.
June 20th, 2008 at 0:24
maby he knows that offers would come in at high levels maby too good to pass on and he just wants to seem open to whatever comes since it isnot in his control.
that said sell the diving swimsuit model
im sorry please dont go ronny hahaha
June 20th, 2008 at 0:32
wakey; Was Cantona, Ronaldo, van Nistelrooy ready to play in the EPL with no previous experience? Sorry but I really disagree with you on that one. A great player is a great player and he will adapt. Football isn’t brain surgery. Hargreaves had a hard time trying to adapt because he was injured and his pace wasn’t yet 100%. Yet, it didn’t take him long for we should remember what he eventually meant to our winning the double. Did Drogba, Adebayor, Bergamp, Klinsmann, Vialli, Torres, and other greats have a hard time adjusting to the game? I really and honestly don’t see how your argument has any weight. Instead you would rather make the judgment that Santa Cruz, a career underachiever is more qualified to play for United based on one season for Blackburn where he played with very little pressure to attain trophies. When he was at Bayern he couldn’t cut it because he was invisible in games that he played in. He couldn’t even beat out Claudio Pizarro and the over the hill Roy MaKaay for a regular starting spot.
June 20th, 2008 at 0:35
RedDevil; You didn’t actually expect him to make a decision the moment after his country was eliminated did you? Even with my deep seeded dislike for him now, I am still willing to be fair and offer him a few days to gather himself, talkt to United and make what we all hope will be a wise decision.
RR There is a big difference between saying that a player is not a fan of Wayne Rooney and saying that I question whether he is a fan of Wayne Rooney. The key word there is QUESTION. Therefore I am not telling him, I am asking him?
June 20th, 2008 at 0:36
RR you hit it right on, he wants a pay rise. imho Ronaldo(or Lord Satan aka Mendes) has given United a ultimatum. “Pay me X lbs a week or I go to Madrid”.
Obviously I am just some asshole with a computer and no clue what is going on. But from his comments about it not being up to me I take it as he just wants the most lucrative deal.
June 20th, 2008 at 1:03
[Grognard]
I’ll quote it:
If you own a Rooney jersey I suggest you give it to somebody you know who is actually a fan of Wayne’s because from where I’m standing, you clearly are not.
Clearly does not sound like a question. I rest my case.
June 20th, 2008 at 1:56
WOW! RR you got me. Victory is sweet don’t you think? I guess it wasn’t a question after all. Instead it was a suggestion. God I’m evil! I’m glad you uncovered my gaff and I hope it was worth it to you to rub it in my face in public.
June 20th, 2008 at 2:54
Grognard, I wouldn’t take ‘Super’ Mario if he was offered for free. He has completely choked on the big stage. He wouldn’t get in the team over Rooney, Tevez or a half Saha.
Schweinsteiger and Podolski i’ll give you. Both good players, would do a job for any top 6 Premiership sides.
Frings, as you say is 31, and I don’t think wouldn’t get in over Scholes, Hargreaves or Carrick. Lahm would be good back up for Brown or Evra if injured, but he isn’t better than either of them.. Fritz is pretty fast (and tall), but I wouldn’t take him over Brown either…
Neuer is one for the future, so we’ll see, and the same for Adler.
June 20th, 2008 at 3:35
[Grognard]
You brought it up in public.
June 20th, 2008 at 4:03
Traverse; He’s a young player and he didn’t play any worse than Benzema. A little harsh to judge a player’s worth based on three games don’t you think? What about all the older stars for France and Italy? Are they all crap now all of a sudden because they didn’t do it over a three game period? And like Saha has never had a bad stretch. Even Rooney has had many stretches where he didn’t play well and couldn’t buy a goal. Come on give me a break Traverse. My point was that all those players are good enough to play for United. That said that doesn’t mean that there is space for all of them now.
June 20th, 2008 at 4:10
grog
of all german players u have named, only Adler is the one who has publicly said of his “love” to play for manchester untied in future!!! [ Source: his wiki page ]
So once VDS is retired (in 1-2 years) do you think he should be the one to come over as replacement (or would you rather prefer some other quality keeper like Boruc ).
If the answer is Boruc than that gives you the answer why no germans have played for us! There were simply better players available at utd ranks than the ones who could have come from germany (discounting for the fact that the best of them would have gone to Bayern and in the 90s probably Bayern had more pulling power than us!)
June 20th, 2008 at 4:34
Traverse; seriously? Lahm isn’t better than Brown at RB? Yeah right. Lahm is probably the best in the world in his position, Brown is slightly above average at RB and a good CB.
On SSN they are saying that Ronaldo said that he’s played his last EPL game to Spanish journalists. I don’t think this is BS because they have quotes attributed to Ronaldo. If Ronaldo leaves we need a world class left or right winger and a striker unless Fergie plans on a 4-3-3 formation or something similar in which case we may only need a striker.
As for the EUROs I would love to see a Russia and Germany final. I don’t know why but I’m drawn to these 2 teams. I’ve liked Germany’s new style that I first noticed in the WC and liked. However I think it will probably be between Spain (although they might choke against Italy) and Holland (although they do have a bad defense). I’m looking forward to it though.
June 20th, 2008 at 5:44
Jos; We are talking many years so I don’t by that theory, sorry. My preference would be Neuer. Although I do like Boruc. And I’d take Lahm over Brown, Ballack over anyone, Podolski over Tevez and Shweinsteiger as a replacement at RMF if Ronaldo left. None of these players would be a downgrade except Shweinsteiger when compared to CR7. And in the past I would not have turned down a chance to have players like
Lehmann, Kahn, Sammer, Kohler, Babbel, Ziege, Moeller, Bierhoff, Klinsmann and Frings to name a few. All of them were world class in their day.
Liam; My pre tournament picks was Germany to win and the surprise team for me was Russia. I honestly can see this as a final because I think the Russians have the quality to beat the Dutch and get past Spain or Italy. A tough task but I think they are capable of it. Still, the Dutch look awfully tough and both Spain and Italy are tough too. If I was to guess now I am picking Germany vs Italy. Italy just finds a way to get it done even if they are not deserving of anything. I can just see them beating the Spaniards 1-0 and then shocking the Dutch too. They can also beat Germany because they have Germany’s number, but I’ll remain optimistic and hope for a German/Dutch final.
June 20th, 2008 at 5:53
[Grognard]
There was another player, I forget his name, a very good German winger who quit at 28 (I think 2 years ago) due to injury and personal reasons, had he been there he would have started on the wing for Germany in the last World cup. I liked him a lot but can’t seem to remember his name, could you help me out here?
June 20th, 2008 at 7:23
Since we now know that Ronaldo(aka Voldemort) wants to leave, which player do you want to replace him.
I want either Sneijder or Podolski. Move Nani to the right wing and put Podolski on the left. Or Sneijder and Nani can change wings. Read that United are after Van der Vaart. Great player, but would he fit into Uniteds style?
June 20th, 2008 at 7:32
I just thought of something. Some weeks ago, Scolari said that he had told Ronalod to take the oppurtunity to join Real. Do you think that made Ronaldo make up hus mind. But what the FUCK, why is Scolari getting involved in Uniteds and Voldemorts business? Unless it is because he will be Cheslki boss next season and is afraid that Ronaldo will killl his side…
June 20th, 2008 at 7:35
Apart from Quaresma, Nan is the next best thing to Ronaldo. Hear me now! I am not saying he is a direct replacement, just the best available and he is already ours. Gice him 2 more years like Fergie gave Ronaldo and see what happens.
Grognard, how can you slag off Cruz for not playing well for Bayern, when Podolski doesnt exactly set the world on fire for his club either? I know you hate Latin America players, but you cant honestly say you rate Podolski over tevez. Unless you meant he compliments Rooney more than tevez. If thats the case then sorry for the confusion.
Sad to see Ronaldo wants out, but Im glad its over with. Its kinda when you know you and your girl are done, but your just waiting for her to drop the axe. I am with RedDevil on this one. If they want him so bad, lets drag them over the coals during this transfer. It actually worked in our favor, because Madrid talked themselves past the point of no return so there is no way they cant walk away from him this summer. So I say 40 million plus sneijder and Ramos.
June 20th, 2008 at 7:39
I dunno….40 million seem to little. They should use all their money to buy him, if they at all get him!
June 20th, 2008 at 7:46
The reason Podolski hasnt set the world alight at Bayern is because he is on the bench 19/25 games. Only the legendary Old can be rates as a world star if he gets thatmany games from the bench. At Koln he was a star, he has scored many goal for Bayern since he is a “super-sub” all season long. I too would take Podolski over Tevez, becuase I simply believe Podolski is a better player. I do not rate him only by the WC and EC, but his time at Koln and Bayern too. Tevez is a world class player, great and amazing, love the guy, but I would take Podolski oover him. But I dont agree on the others. I would take Scholes and Anderson over Ballack and Frings. I would take Rooney over Klose, Torres and Villa. I would take VDS over Lehmann. I would even take Nani over Shweinsteiger!
June 20th, 2008 at 7:48
Oh and the son of a bitch has talked again. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3713536,00.html
June 20th, 2008 at 8:07
That was meant to be OLE, not OLD!
June 20th, 2008 at 8:10
van der vaart to utd would be amazing! and he can help attract huntlaar as well. Ronaldo out and VDV Huntelaar in would be very good indeed.
then we can properly play a 4-4-2 with huntelaar/saha (or saha replacement – how about Santa Cruz or even Podolski) Rooney (or tevez) upfront, nani (giggs) & vdv (park) on the wings, andy/carrick/Oh/scholes in the middle. back 4 of evra rio vida (brown as cover) & ramos (neville). wud need decent cover for evra & possibly rio as well.
I dont think people realistically believe we can tempt schnider from real. he hasnt indicated if he would be willing to leave real. we can get somebody like ramos or drenthe although.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:15
Then Real should make Sneijder leave. But that is only if they want Ronaldo and United want Sneijder.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:24
i’d say take even somebody like robben… like replacement, quality player and we were after him earlier too. and he wud be surplus there when ronaldo joins! i’d take robben over robinho! only prob is he is saha clone in the sense he also spends substantial time in the sickbay!
has anybody noticed how resilient ronaldo is to injuries although he rides so many challenges!!! that is some super ability really!
June 20th, 2008 at 8:30
RR; Are you thinking of Sebastian Deisler? Super talent but had chronic knee problems and suffered from major depression.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:31
I wonder if Fergie will let Ronaldo move to Real…
June 20th, 2008 at 8:32
[Grognard]
Yes, it’s Deisler. Outstanding player while he played.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:37
Come on! Lets make it 200 comments.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:37
Johnsom33; It’s simple. Podolski has had injury problems the last year and when he returned he had two world class strikers in front of him in Toni and Klose. Not really given a fair chance to shine but he was fantastic in the last ten games or so of the season when he got some playing time. He scored some sizzling goals. Also, he is acknowledged by anyone who knows the game as a world class talent. Santa Cruz never had the injury problems and he couldn’t beat out Claudio Pizzaro for crying out loud. That should tell you everything. In fact the Hamburg striker Guerrero played more than Santa Cruz when he was at Bayern and was considered the #4 striker. Finally, I think Podolski has put any debate to rest in the Euros by being Germany’s best and most consistent player over the four games. 3 goals and an assist and causing havoc down the right side despite having a sore ankle and a cyst on his foot as well.
And I’m sorry but I would take Podolski over Tevez any day of the week. A far more dynamic and talented player. I’ll admit though that Tevez is still a very fine player who works his butt off and never quits. Still Podolski has more talent and pace.
And I don’t hate Latin players at all. I wish you wouldn’t make claims like that. Liking players is one thing, trusting their motives and true intentions is another. I don’t trust them to ever feel content and happy with life and playing football in England. Yes there will always be a few that do but most of them want the warm weather and cultural advantages that they relate to more in Spain and Italy. That’s not me hating them. That’s me seeing through them.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:45
Grognard- I remember his goal against Borussia Dortmund. It was class!
June 20th, 2008 at 8:49
Jos, the reason CR7 is not susceptible to injuries, is because he never tackles anyone. I have only ever seen him go in once where it hurts, and that is against Roma away, where he was winded getting that super headed goal. Otherwise nothing. He is piss poor at recovering a ball when he has lost it too, because he doesn’t try!.
Ronaldo has said to sky tv, that he doesn’t care about how Fergie or the fans feel, because it is his opinion that matters to him, and the Madrid train only comes by once in a lifetime. He admits Scolari had a part in encouraging him to go to Madrid. I just want him removed from our club as quickly as possible. What grieves me, is that Ronaldo admitted to sky that he had made his mind up after the Moscow game, so he has lied through his feckin back teeth all this while saying he hadn’t made his mind up – LIAR!. I don’t care that he wants to leave, I never have done. There will always be life after Ronaldo, nobody is irreplaceable, and I mean that. I do mind that he has dragged this on for so long, til Fergie believed that it was Real Madrid doing all the pushing and underhanded stuff, but seems like it was Ronaldo all along. That’s why I find CR7 disgusting. Ronaldo is in love with Ronaldo and has no love left in his heart for anyone else.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:53
RedDevil; Yes, it was. Wasn’t it a cracker? The kid is class and although I love Bayern I think they have treated him terribly. I love Toni and especially Klose but they didn’t need to sign both of them. Klose was not necessary as he was settled and pretty happy at Bremen.
Now they are talking about buying Gomez. The rumors are Gomez to Bayern and Podolski to Stuttgart in a swap and some cash to Stuttgart as well. Bayern need a AMF like Ballack, not a 4th world class striker. Can you imagine if they buy Gomez and keep Podolski? That won’t happen but still, I applaud Bayern’s aggressive attitude to improve. I wish they were like that at OT instead of acting like a bunch of old men at Whitehall sipping team and telling war stories in the Polo lounge.
June 20th, 2008 at 8:58
RR; The second coming of Deisler arrived this year at Bayern. His name is Toni Kroos. He’s an AMF/LMF and his skills are eerily similar. Tremendous left foot who can cross like Beckham and has a great passing skills and finesse. He also has a fierce shot. He’s only 17 and he WOW’ed me in his first few opportunities. Once he get s conditioned to the pace and quality of the Bundesliga this boy will be the best player in Germany and Ballack’s heir. I’d say sing him but Bayern would never let him go. They know they have gold. He even looks a little like Deisler and wears his hair the same way.
June 20th, 2008 at 9:02
Ronaldo is and has been dead to me for a while now. Nothing he says or does bothers me or concerns me anymore. I just want to make sure that United don’t give him away like they did RVN and that they do something dynamic to replace him and add to the team. Sneijder for me is a must because Ronaldo would be in essence taking his spot in the starting 11. So it’s a natural trade off. 75 mil and Sneijder. Then go out and buy Vander Vaart and Huntelaar and built United into the Dutch National team.
June 20th, 2008 at 9:11
New post up, and it contains a link to the full Guillem Balague interview with Ronaldo.
June 20th, 2008 at 9:24
what Grognard… both Schnider & VDV!!! How many midfielder we would have then??? Unless there are plans of shunting out Fletch & Scholes that wouldnt happen…
But yea even if one of them arrives it would be excellent.(my pref is VDV simply coz he is available for cheap.. schnider’s transfer might be much much more complicated and he might or might not be tempted to move to utd from real)
June 20th, 2008 at 10:28
Van der Vaart can also be used as a striker, so i wont rate him as a midfielder. He plays in the Cantona role, behind the striker, but can move anywhere around midfield too. He would play like this:
VDS
Neville Rio Vida Pat
Carrick Anderson Owen
VdV
Rooney Tevez.
June 20th, 2008 at 14:10
189 comments later I will explain what I meant.I meant are Nike changing the current jersey, obviously it stays red
June 20th, 2008 at 15:50
Ronaldo not in the pictures, does that tell it’s own story?
June 21st, 2008 at 17:24
These are UGLY! I agree they do look like the USA should be wearing the uniforms. But anyway, these are ugly, the blue shorts make them look like a little rec league team.
June 21st, 2008 at 18:04
I like this kit. Yer it may be unusual for utd but still i like it. So what if it has blue parts to it remember the blue away kit we had 3 years ago a classic away kit. The black kit was good but a bit plain just all black i like this as its different. We will be beating Liverpool at anfield in this kit next season lol. Champions!!!!!!!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 18:09
If Ronaldo wants 2 go then we should let him we will get about 80 million for him so we can go and buy 2 superstars. I will miss Ronaldo but its his dream to play for Madrid and one day he will so sell him now and get the most we can for him.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:54
The best kit o’ve seen so far and im an arsenal fan.This looks really amazing
November 16th, 2008 at 11:53
What are the players gonaa wear, and in India Where do they have Blue football jerseys for 8 years old,s