Jun 17
Manchester United start title defence with Birmingham, Burnley, Arsenal and Tottenham
The 2009/2010 Barclays Premier League fixtures were announced at 10am today, with Manchester United playing their first game against newly promoted Birmingham at Old Trafford.
An away trip to Burnley follows before an expected cracker of a game at Old Trafford on 29 August against Arsenal, followed by the international break and then a trip to White Hart Lane to play Tottenham Hotspurs.
A look at United’s fixtures against the top four sides:
Manchester United v Arsenal – 29 August 2009
Arsenal v Manchester United – 30 January 2010
Manchester United v Liverpool – 20 March 2010
Liverpool v Manchester United – 24 October 2009
Manchester United v Chelsea – 03 April 2010
Chelsea v Manchester United – 07 November 2009
You can see all of Manchester United’s fixtures here, and the full Premier League fixtures list here.
Related items from Red Rants:
- Manchester United Fixtures for the 07/08 Season
- 08/09 Fixtures Announced
- Man Utd 2010/11 Season Fixtures Announced
- Sparky Returns as United Look to Continue Title March
- Manchester United’s tough, tough April fixtures list
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@Grognard: Did you see Marin’s horror tackle?
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@Rd: He’s ruled out Liverpool because they won’t give him the mega wages that city will. Make no bones about it, he is a mercenary.
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@Grognard: What truth. Ronaldo is world player of the year because he is the best player in the world. EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IS AWARE OF THIS FACT.
Samuel’s article is based on a big fat lie that he himself invents in the article. That we, the United faithful, think he is dogshite as a player. This has never once been said anywhere by a United supporter. He’s done this because United supporters aren’t dressing in only black and laying flowers outside the gates of OT like it was Busby’s bloody funeral all over again.
He has failed to realise that Ronaldo’s antics last season left him dead to the hearts of most United supporters, as he hijacked a great season for the club by making it all about him. And not about his great season, about a desire to go to Madrid. Why should we mourn him? He was a great player, but he isn’t bigger than Manchester United. Nobody is. It isn’t worth feeding his ego to make him think he is.
He probably does anyway.
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@Roge9: Well if Ronaldo was a woman then she would be a cunt and not the asshole I think he is.
Excuse my language, but I cannot think of better words to describe him/her!!
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**Strong Language alert**
Why was it obvious that Ronaldo was going to sign for Madrid after Kaka?
Cause a Brazilian is usually followed by an irritating cunt.
thankyougoodnight!
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@colver: I know our mifield could be better, but i also think the loss of the midfield battle against Barca was down to bad tactics more than anything else.
It was a simple case of 3 Barca players outnumbering 2 United players, coz Giggs played behind Ronaldo for most of the match not in midfield were he was badly needed.
It was the same system that worked so well against the slow and ponderous Inter at the San Siro, but it was never going to work against a team like Barca who keep and move the ball so well.
Barca deserved the victory on the night mate, but thier performance was blew out of all proportion and I am convinced that if SAF had of played a trio in the centre of the park by playing Scholes instead of Giggs then it would have been a different match.
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If i was Fergie, i will spend the money on Huntelaar,Valencia and Sneijder. That to some extent cover up our midfield problems, give us a 20-goals-a-season striker and decent cover on the right side of midfield.
Before we go scouting for young talents around the globe,stop by the manchester united reserve team bench..Macheda,Welbeck,Petrucci,Tosic,Gibson,Manucho…and to some extent Nani and Anderson (yet to convince me…completely another argument)..we should give them a chance than trying to fill up our team with egoistic,spain-bound losers!!!
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@Grognard: if its logic and stats that you are into then go and compare Besties and and Ronnys goals per game and you will find that they are almost identical, so as you say, given that Best was not known for free kicks or penalties then that would make him a better goalscorer, and for your information, its OK to be biased so long as you dont allow that bias to influence your interpretation of the facts or deny the truth if it does not support your bias. Its logically possible to be both biased and correct at the same time mate, they are not mutually exclusive.
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@Fred The Red: Bestie signed my match program in December of 1968, prior to the home game against Liverpool. He was friendly and accommodating to all us kidlets, but I do remember him looking like crap (from the night before, I imagine).
He played great and I’m pretty sure he scored the winning goal (1-0) with an amazing dribble through the entire Liverpool defense, then side footing past the goalie. (I’m not entirely sure that it was this game that he did that, after 40 years my memories blur together a little)
He was my idol in those days, and when he waned, so did my interest in the game (temporarily). When he died, I cried like a baby!!
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@Traverse: According to that infamous paper the Sun, which does on accasion get things right, Tevez has told Man United, make me the highest paid player at the club, or forget it! Also he is deliberately keeping United waiting, because we kept him waiting. Please, how much longer do we have to put up with this shite from Tevez? Ego fucking number two. I believe he truly thinks he can take over from and is as great as Ronnie and DESERVES to be THE MAIN PLAYER. FFS, do we really need another MASSIVE preener around our club. The fans have made this fucking rod for our backs, by making this dud feel in the last weeks that he really is greater than everyone else. He has to fucking go, because he has become inflated bag of wind No 2. WTF is Man United allowing him to get away with this shit. I am so pissed off with Tevez and Joorabchian. Let them get away with this, and it will be a non ending the tail wagging the dog. Like I said, the United faithful certainly know how to choose their hero’s – NOT!
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Fergie, Fergie, sign him up my arse! I want to organise my own rent a mob now, to greet SAF when he returns from holiday, and we all chant, Fergie, Fergie, KICK HIM OUT, Fergie, Kick him out. I’m absolutely incensed with Tevez and everyone and everything to do with him. I’m raging
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@Redrich: were do you rank Bestie mate, on sheer ability alone he must be one of if not the greatest.
I would loved to have seen him live, must have been great Rich.
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@Roge9: How on Earth is anyone supposed to get the proper perspective on this with analogy as lethal and as out of place as that? Jeez!
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@Traverse: No I didn’t. So what does that mean, that now he is a shitty player because he made a bad tackle? I guess that makes Rooney total rubbish then eh?
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@Craig Mc: If I was SAF i would forget about Tevez, if we move hard and fast I genuinely think that we can get Benzema, add the precosious Douglas Costa as well and get Hargreaves fully fit and we would be dandy.
If Costs is as good as I think he is, the lift that it would give OT whenever they see him play would make Ronny a distant memory.
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@Fred The Red: Yeah Fred, I certainly don’t understand the mentality of these foreigners. We have had players before that were idolised, but unless I have a very short memory, I can’t remember anything like the VASTLY INFLATED EGOS of Ronnie and Tev. Ronnie’s great skill and ability as a footballer, have made us lean towards at least bearing with him. But Tevez, is FEEDING off the adulation of the fans during the last months of the season, and it is damaging the credibility now of Man Utd and all we have always stood for. I find it unsufferable to be honest. Is this a result of the Ronnie influence and attitude now beginning to be seen in our other foreign players. Whatever it is, I don’t like it. We don’t need it. What do you think Fred?
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@Craig Mc: Tevez was a superstar in South America and has a massive reputation over there, I genuinely think that Tevez feels disrespected by United and is acting out of character, coz I dont think he has the reputation as a trouble maker.
But the problem is that at 26 million he is overpriced by at least 8 million, and he has not done enough in his two years at OT to merit being in the top wage bracket.If he does have too high of an opinion of himself then it would be better to let him go coz I cant see him being regarded any higher than he was last year and if its going to lead to problems then its best to let him go.
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@Fred The Red: In his day, he was Pele’s equal. He could do that little dip of his hip and the defender was on his rear end. There were times when I thought he was invincible, no one could touch him for sheer ability and class. He had a sixth sense that no other player had. and performed like a magician oohing and aahing the crowds with unbelievable feats of skill.
I could go on to explain how better he could have been, but I really have to remember him for all the good stuff only. He was sooo, so good!!
I’m not sure I want to engage in the Best v. Ronaldo discussion. It’s better left for those trying to write history.
But I will say this. On an emotional level, no one could compete with George Best as to what a player meant to me, and that’s a prejudice based on how well I got to know of him. Ronaldo, on the other hand, showed me nothing of his soul. I never knew him, and I will probably be grateful that I never did!!
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@Craig Mc: Well hells-bells, I agree with you Craig!!
Mind you, I could give a flyer about his attitude, it’s his poor skill set and lack of goal scoring, that makes me want him gone!!
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@Grognard: Stop this bro… and move on…No one is denying his ability but the point is now we need to move on. So we need to find out some points that will give us some psychological stability and strenght. may be thats what everyone is doing by thinking that we can do without him. And there is nothing wrong in this approach.
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@Grognard: Stop this bro… No one is denying his ability but the point is now we need to move on. So we need to find out some points that will give us some psychological stability and strenght. may be thats what everyone is doing by thinking that we can do without him. And there is nothing wrong in this approach.
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@Onkar: I don’t think Grognard is saying we can’t move on without him, I think he wants us to respect Ronaldo for all that he gave us, well on the field
. Ronaldo, as a person was a cunt, but to watch him with the ball at his feet is an absolute joy and he gave us some moments with his outrageous skill that we were proud to tell the world that he belonged to Manchester United.
We’ll defintely move on without Ronaldo, we might end up trophyless for a season, but I’ll take that if we know for a fact that we are building a new team with upcoming youngsters. We won trophies after Canntona left , after Keano left, after Stam left. With the history that the club has, we can be sure we’ll always be an attractive club for talented youngsters to come to.
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@Grognard: From your assessment of Vucinic, I think we should pursue him aggressively. I was quite skeptical about his ability to play as the lone striker because when ever i had seen him play, he was deployed on the flanks. Benzema is a talent, but he would start moaning from day one if he were benched. Also Fergie is a big fan of Berba, I don’t think he would lose faith in him just after a season. Fergie will trust the Roon-Berba partnership to deliver the goods. A team will be built around them.
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@Stephen: I’m not slating him. I have always maintained that he is a great footballer. I also advocated that he should follow his dream. Now that he’s gone…he’s gone. I could not care less about him. Perhaps I’ll realise that there is a CR9 when we meet Madrid in the CL, but other than that…who cares? (Why should I, he surely did not think of me when he shagged Paris
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@Roge9: Brilliant…again.
I was actually thinking of using the same analogy, but the way you put it is simply amazing.
There’s a fine line between love and hate. The deeper the love, the deeper the hate.
@Andrei: My sentiments exactly.
People also are blinded to the fact that the last few games, when he realised that Berba was no longer automatic first choice, he actually started to disprove the stuff people said against him, like ‘cannot score’, ‘poor touch’, ‘no vision’. (Look at his games for Argentina and in Brazil to see what an in-form, confident Tevez can do).
People are over-hyped over Benzema, Ribery, Huntelaar, etc. naively thinking that it will automatically solve problems in the team. They forget that exactly a year ago, they were shouting and expecting the same for Berbatov. See how that turned out?
Berbatov is a classy player. Now that he plays for United (and not going anywhere), I believe he is the classiest player in the world. I was never convinced of him, but somehow I get the feeling that he will really shine this season (I guess you can call me a convert). Unfortunately, he will need another few weeks/months to adapt to the team (including the new CR7′less tactics). How long are we going to give a Benzema or Ribery or Huntelaar, etc. to adapt? Can we afford another lenghty adaptation? Not saying that we should not sign them, but lets our naivity (and desperation) completely blind us.
@Craig Mc: The Sun also claimed that Nani was extremely unhappy at United and wanted to demand a move to Italy. Now Nani claims he can become like Ronaldo.
How do they know what Tevez told United management? Also, how come Tevez has not signed for City already because the money apparently is much, much more. Why are City going in for Eto’o if they already have Robinho and Tevez sealed up? What would Tevez make of his starting chances then? He ruled out Liverpool because of the fans, yet the fans want to stick it to him? Management fucked up on negotiations, yet he is the evil one? They had 2 years to tie up the deal and decided to keep him on a leash by telling him ‘soon’, now he is the bad one for taking his time to make a decision? I love United to bits. This will not change, no matter what. (He is also a United fan by heart). If I were in Tevez’ shoes, I would actually tell United to piss off! (And I’m not even exactly an arrogant person).
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@Stephen: I forgot to add, I don’t really dislike Beckham, I just don’t like him. He is Majorly overrated. Other than his brilliant crossing ability, he is absolutely useless as a footballer. (He would get clobbered at street football where I grew up).
I also believe that if he did not marry into the Spice Girls at the time when he did, then he would have been a distant memory by now.
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@Karl: Tevez said we would have won the final had he started, that is a disrespect to his team mates as well as to Fergie’s team selection.
Ok, Lets put tevez’s ramblings to the media aside and judge him purely as a player. Is he what we need now? Is he our answer for the goal scoring threat. Does he bring the best out of Rooney, who is a better player than Tevez and is going to be our talisman.Tevez and Rooney could play upfront together two seasons back because their job was mainly creating space for Ronaldo and we had the genuine goal threat from Ronnie then. I have my reservations with respect to the Tevez-Roon partnership. Also, if Rooney and Berba remain fit for the entire season, Tevez will still end up playing the same number of games as last season. I don’t think he would accept such a situation.
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@NicoQB: haha wish we had a polling system here…
oh well, he is going anyway, not yet gone, but going… i am slow on the uptake, so until his pictures of him in a madrid shirt come out, i am waiting for madrid to tank leeds style, and get found out for some major scandal that forces their dissolution.
haha dreams…
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@Scorp:
1. My point was that us getting on Tevez’ back because of the media bullshit is crap.
2. I was brought up with the principles that respect is not automatic, it needs to be earned. My mother sat me down one day and told me “I have always taught you to respect other people, but today I want to tell you, if someone don’t respect you, you don’t have to respect him/her”. Today, I live by this. What respect was shown to him?
3.The questions that you asked are exactly what we should focus on. If we focus on those, then we as supporters can properly debate the issue and decide which is best for club and player.
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@NicoQB: Added to that, when Keane left, we got 2 different type of players in Carrick and Hargreaves. You’re right, we don’t need to focus on a replacement. We’ll definitely get alternatives, Perhaps in this case, either 1, 2 or 3 players. IMHO, I think we should first wait and assess. I think our squad is good enough for a top-4 fight-out as-is.
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@Scorp: I know actually i jumped on my gun without reading all the posts from GROG.
@Grognard:
But, even to GROG I would like to point out one thing that we as supporter are not the people who watch our stars/ idols play and then forget them. I mean we worship them. So, its becomes difficult grogy to keep two things separate as you are saying. I mean as fan i loved RONALDO as package as whole. I mean tell me why people try the same haircut as there stars do, why they go out and buy the fashion wears, perfumes recommended by there stars. All this is not a part of there sports but this whole thing is a part of the Players as a package which includes players on and off the pitch as well. I mean common bro tell me one thing dont you thing hurt by him deep down some where. I mean we always knew that one day he will move on as we all knew that his dream is to play for ‘the mob’ but the point is he could have done this transfer gracefully. He could have come out said to his fan and manager that look gaffer i have done everything that i could do for this team , i gave everything that i have, i won all the accolades with this team now i want to move on. I want go and attain my childhood dream. And then everyone would have gracefully accepted the fact but no he came up with all those god only knows things all ‘BS’. Now, grog tell me one thing, that he done everything that a footballer can do that too at small age of 24 yrs. Then why we regard him as a great player only and not as legend. The answer lies not in the Ronaldo as player but the Ronaldo as human being. I mean we as fans expects many things who from people who we call as greats/ heroes but legends they are special players as well as human beings they teach you some or the other thing for your personal life. I mean I can still remember those days when after Rooney’s sent off in an international because of him the whole England was on his back to the level that he was not ready to come here. At that who stayed strongly in support for him and then what he gave in return was god only knows ‘BS’.
I mean i can’t believe its you GROG who’s saying all these things and talking about being fair and objective by keeping two things separate. I mean i still remember about couple of days back you questioned RR’s passion for the game by while justifying your passionate rant. So now where is your PASSION bro. And just because you can keep RONALDO on the pitch and off the pitch separate you can’t expect others do the same. Because, they all including my self felt betrayed by that man, harassed mentally by him because unlike you we all loved RONALDO as whole and we never said that we loved and worship RONALDO on the pitch and not off it.
So please GROG you can see things that way but others can’t. At least i cant’t because I still feel he could have gone better way. Anyway the point is Ronaldo whether on the pitch or off the pitch is the same man and if he has received some bashing from some of the passionate fans i dont thing there is anything wrong in it.
He totally deserved it…..
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@Karl: We don’t know what kind of disrespect was actually meted out to Tevez. We’ll never know what happened behind those doors. There is a huge chance that his agent played mind games with Tevez and turned him against us.The whole problem of disrespect started when his agent claimed that we promised Tevez’s party that we would sign him up after his two year loan period. If that isn’t the case it is totally Fergie’s prerogative to sign him up or not. Forget about the fees that Tevez is demanding, if Fergie feels that he doesn’t offer anything different from what we already have, he’ll let him go as Fergie usually gets his man no matter what the fees is.
Fergie had reiterated many times that Tevez knows that we want him at OT. So did Fergie or Gill actually try to negotiate for a long term deal? Yes they did. Did Fergie ever discuss with Tevez that his agent was demanding for over the top fees, we’ll never know. Did Tevez try to tell his agent to lower the fees demanded, we’ll never know.
As for the information that we, the fans, have 25 million for Tevez is not worth it, for that fees we can get players who would provide a different dimension to the attack.
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@Grognard: Yeah, mate. They really do…
Like you said, Im on to bigger and better things now. More pressure, higher stakes. But I thrive on pressure, so it looks good!
Gonna be practising my ball control and shooting teqnique all summer, cause it doesnt look like Im going anywhere. 
But oh well, maybe it is time I show some of my goals/skills on Youtube, eh? 
Then you send it to your boss(Fergie) and tell him to come and sign me up! I promise you, Im not an irritating cunt! 
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@NicoQB: Ive already got a classy girl, dont think I need another.
As for me being the next in line after Macheda and Ronny, we shall see… 
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@Grognard: Dont think I can cut out the girls, cause if anything its they that have to cut out me!
Besides, footy has been my life and I have not let anything come in the way of that. Really good teammates of me have wasted their talent because they began smoking, they started fighting, taking drugs and stuff like that, Ive seen them come and go, good and bad. But Ive been there longer than anyone, and Ive been there and done more than anybody. Partying has never been a problem for me, because I want things to be simple. Never have I taken drugs, never have I had a one-night stand, very rarely do I get so drunk that I wake up in a trash can in Albania the next moring. 
So you dont worry, I know how to deal with things. But if I sense trouble, I will go for the safest option. Just like in football… 
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Okey, Ive been away the last couple of days because of the gradiuation party(or whatever they call it in English!), so I havent had time to comment as much or keep up with what has happened. But I see we are still talking about Ronaldo, but my video says all I needed to say about him…
Although Tevez, who now just looks like a greedy cunt, I dont want in our club. He saved us on a few occasion last season, including Stoke and Wigan. But I just cant see him stay. Good footballer, but not great. And now that Ronaldo has left, we need great footballers. If Tevez stays, I wouldnt be too angry. Because I feel that he can do good things in thsi side, but he is far from being my favorite signing. If we have to pay £25 million to keep Tevez when we can get Aguero for £50 million, I really think there is no doubt which we should go for! Aguero is at least four times the footballer that Tevez is, and could become better than Ronaldo has ever been for this club if we go for him. He wants us, we want him, whats so difficult?! We have the money and we have the team to make this happen. So Tevez can just fuck off for all I care, cause he is behaving almost like Ronaldo, but he is not even the kind of player. At least Ronaldo had some class on the field…
Fuck Tevez, get Aguero and Young. Then get De Rossi, cause apparantley Roma are ready to listen to offers!
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Oh, a new thread…
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@Scorp: Thank you! thank you! thank you! Finally somebody who has figured out what the Hell I’ve been on about for a week. I am more than willing to move on but every time I read somebody making an asinine statement like “I’m glad Ronaldo is gone and I think he wasn’t quite as valuable as everyone thinks” I just want to vomit. What we have in Mancunia are a bunch of bitter pillocks who just refuse to give the man his due. Well, I’ll leave it alone, because I don’t have the power to change the world, but it’s refreshing to know that at least one person actually got what I was trying to say. Thanks again mate.
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@Scorp: Vucinic is good, no doubt about it but with the kind of money we have, I really think Fergie would be doing us a major disservice by not pursuing a bigger name for that position. I am not a Benzema fan but even if he were to come here and then want to leave for Madrid, we would be able to probably get close to double what we paid for him. Vucinic does not have that kind of pedigree or intrinsic value. A good player but not what we really should be pursuing with the kind of bankroll we presently have. Benzema, Aguero, Huntelaar, van Persie are all better players in my opinion and most are big names. Vucinic would fall in the category of #3 strikers I’d go for like Dzeko, Ibesevic, Keirreson etc.
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@Karl: Don’t blame people for having put their faith and for getting hyped up about Berbatov. People saw just how good he was with Spurs and they also knew how much Fergie himself had hyped up the player. Many of us preferred other players over Berbatov but were still willing to settle for him because he was and still is a quality player. The problem however as I see it is his style of play does not suit us as well as Fergie had hoped.
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@Grognard: Your welcome mate
The man clearly didn’t have the class to deal with his off field issues and the ridiculous statement that he made ” Fans will forget everything once I start scoring goals again” will not be forgotten.
But, my god, what a player he was. He was the major reason we won the three titles and saying that we are better off without him has optimism and bitterness written all over it more than anything else.
I would like to hear your take on the whole Tevez thing, of course in the new thread
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@Scorp: Let’s forget all the MSI/Tevez vs Management/Fergie stuff and discuss “As for the information that we, the fans, have 25 million for Tevez is not worth it, for that fees we can get players who would provide a different dimension to the attack.”.
I know that our opinions means nothing to United really, all we can do is have fun in discussing these issues and just hope that maybe Fergie will see it ‘our’ way.
My side of the debate – I’m for United signing Tevez (although I have my reservations on wether this is the club environment for him to reach his fullest potential). I’m also selfish in a sense and want us to sign him. Rather have him than play against him I say.
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@Karl: I don’t know mate, he seems to have good passing skills, divine ability to cross the ball and he is a free kick specialist extraordinarre. So what if he has no pace or isn’t a great dribbler. That still doesn’t make him a bad footballer. I laugh when people list players like DMF’s like they are something incredible and very few of them have any skill with the football whatsoever. All they do well is defend and hustle. So it really depends on what you are looking for. David Beckham was a massive force for us in the late 90′s and early parts of this decade. His crossing, corners, free kicks and penalties were of the highest order and his leadership and ability to get on with his teammates made things very comfortable around the dressing room. Also, you do not get over 100 caps for England by being a useless tosser. So it’s fine if you don’t like him, thats your prerogative but please, don’t call him a poor footballer because then you play with the intelligence of me and millions of others who know differently. I don’t care about his lifestyle, his fashion sense or any of his extra curricular activities. As a footballer he has always been outstanding and a real professional.
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@Grognard: Mate don’t worry mate I hope I havn’t pissed you off bro, but that is my view and it will not change.
Beckham is a topic which divides many United fans, you are either in his camp or out, personally I believe he manovered his transfer for his own personal and financial gian to promote “Brand Beckham” and hid behind the management and his spat with Ferguson to mask this.
Fergie saw the fact that his lifestyle and his wife was more important to him than Manchester United and Ok’d his move, but Beckham wanted to leave and that was his choice, but all the blame certainly should not soley fall on Fergie’s shoulders.
Trust me mate I am not jealous I am a fan of the club and I am sure many think that I am blinkered by Fergies decisions and am a too loyal pup
But I do believe Beckham wanted to go, anyway it is my Birthday so don’t be too harsh on me mate with all my faults! 
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@Scorp: Tevez is not the answer and I will be very very disappointed in Fergie if he signs him because the player’s ego has gotten the better of him and the fact is, he’s just not good enough in my books. Let someone else be saddled with his delusions of grandeur.
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@Karl: By all accounts Bro, I think Tevez has told United to piss off
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Regarding Nani, well I did say to you at the start of my post, that The Sun WHO SOMETIMES ON OCCASION get things right –
. To be honest though, Nani himself did tell Portuguese tv in interview, that he would not be returning to Portugal in any swap deal, but if he left United it would be to take up offers in Italy! So I guess there was truth in that report 
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@Grognard: I also don’t care about his lifestyle. I’m totally referring to his footballing on the pitch.
Just like Scholes doesn’t tickle your fancy, just so neither does Beckham. I don’t mean to offend you, but I cannot lie about the fact that I feel he is massively overrated. Apart from his wonderful crossing (which always seem to find the spot – he is brialliant at it), I don’t see much else. In a sense, I see him as too one-dimensional. His passing to me is average at best. I can remember getting frustrated at the fact that Fergie Always included him in a team, even when he played badly. His free-kicks, as good as what they are, was also a bit overrated, just like Ronaldo’s. Consider they both got a kazillion chances on freekicks. To be honest – I know you will scoff at this – but I used to think of Quinton Fortune as just as good at free-kicks as him (he just never got the opportunity for United).
I can remember feeling very frustrated at Giggsy at the time, wishing that he had Beckham’s crossing ability. Had he that, he would have been the ultimate winger. But, alas. What Giggsy lacked, Beckham compensated for, and visa versa I suppose. Keep in mind, when he played for United, all players on the continent expressed how they feared Giggs the most. Everybody regarded him as more dangerous than Beckham.
So, I don’ dislike him, let’s just say that I will never buy his after shave of hair gel.
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@Onkar: I’m not asking you to love Ronaldo mate. That has not been my mission. All I wanted is for people to stop talking nonsense like we are a better team without him and that he wasn’t that good except for one season. I can’t stand Ronaldo the person. I own nothing with his image on it. I wouldn’t by a jersey with his name and number nor would I buy a t-shirt. Personally I think he’s kind of gay without actually being gay. His fashion sense and presentation is a little to androgynous for my liking so I am in no way a fan of the man.
I am however a huge fan of the player and will always remember the thrills and spills he gave us as a United player. I think he was beyond world class, he was amazing and highly consistent for us. So all I would like from everyone to admit or to acknowledge how great he was as a player and to put aside the bitterness and disappointment that comes about because of his personality, and just focus on the player we have lost.
If one looks at things properly, you could say he gave more to us than both Cantona and George Best because one retired prematurely afte ronly five seasons with the club and the other won drunk himself out of the game well before his time. But never a negative word about how those player’s disappointed us. I for one was more gutted when Cantona retired because I thought it was a silly thing to do by a person who as great as he was, allowed his eccentricity to rule his common sense. Then again, it was that eccentricity that made Cantona a jewel on the pitch. But he retired too soon. Well Ronaldo gave us six seasons, not one or two but six. That has to count for something and yet with many greedy and self centered supporters, it means squat. I wish him well but I will also miss and feel sick to think that he will never wear a Man Utd jersey again. Because for me anyway, he was one special talent and we are worse off without him.
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@RedDevilEddy: I look forward to seeing Fast Eddy on YouTube.
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@Karl: Yes mate and my side of the debate is we have a better version of Tevez in our team and that is Rooney. Sometimes he holds up the ball a little too much and does not have a good first touch. He is not versatile and doesn’t possess the vision that Rooney does. I always thought and still think that Fergie got him in the first place because he was the cheapest proven option available then.So in my books, instead of shelling out 25 million for him , we can as well shell out say 35 and get Benzema.
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