Jun 13

Manchester United Make Two Signings

Tag: Manchester United News @ 10:00 am

After a long, quiet summer so far, only troubled by Ronaldo’s interviews — or rather, a lack of them — United finally make two signings. Of course they aren’t much to get excited about.

First, Patrice Evra was signed for a further four years — a very important signing, if you ask me. And the second, and a lesser known one, was that of 17 year old promising youngster Davide Petrucci from Roma’s youth team.

Patrice Evra has been one our most important (and the most improved) player over the past couple of seasons. Not only has he been excellent offensively, he has also been a revelation defensively. He has clearly improved by leaps and bounds and if he keeps going he will be on the road towards legend-dom. But most important of all is this: he loves the club, or at least it’s apparent from the way he talks about United.

Long live left back Pat!

Meanwhile, there is a storm brewing in the Roma camp as the publication, Il Romanista, cried foul over United poaching Davide Petrucci before he could even sign a contract. The Italian youngster was offered a humongous bump in wages in comparison to what Roma could offer him and hence he moved to United. Club insiders at Rome claim that he is one of their most promising youngsters and has been likened to Francesco Totti.

We’ll see how that goes.

I must say, at this point though, that I am not pleased with the poaching of a youngster due to legal loopholes as Italian rules do not allow a player under 17 to sign professional contracts. It’s immoral and unethical for a club of our stature and I want to hold my hand up and say it. It may seem right because other teams also do it — Arsenal being the chief culprits — but again, the nature of the academy system in England force clubs into doing things of this sort. Hence, Arsenal got the likes of Lupoli, Fabregas and a host of other players, while we got Rossi, Pique, Macheda and now Petrucci.

The other bit of news that is being reported everywhere is the apparent rift between Fergie and Scolari. According to reports, it seems Fergie is furious that Scolari is advising Ronaldo especially now that he’s been appointed the Chelsea manager. To be honest, that was a load of cow turd, chewed and gargled with shark piss and spat into the mouth of a frog that cheerfully mixes this with the remains of several undigested flies in its stomach ultimately culminating in the letting out of a frog fart. The report was that fart.

That, and quotes from Alan Shearer in the Mirror article, linked above, which equates to the gruesome description above anyway.

And finally, about the Euros, well, the Croatia-Germany game was good and I didn’t see the other. Do share your opinions on players that caught your eye.

Take it away…


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80 Responses to “Manchester United Make Two Signings”

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  • I read somewhere that Man City are looking at Arshavin but his director or chairman or something said that any deal would have to be done by 20 June. Probably BS but who knows.

    I really think that losing Ronaldo could be a blessing in disguise. In the same way that Fabregas and the rest of the Arsenal stepped up without Thierry I think Anderson and Rooney could really come up with the goods if everything isn’t going through Ronaldo also if we got Ramos (which in the wake of his recent comments is seeming a lot more possible) and sneijder or Robinho( is still young and talented and has a bit of flair, SAF could turn him into a great player) We could play a 4-3-3 with him, Rooney and Tevez or even play him on the wing in a 4-4-2. If its not working out then you put on the inevitable tall striker that we’re going to buy

  • I would love to see BERBATOV in a United shirt next season. If we can prize MICHA out of the council house too then I’d be very happy about next season.

    I can see us playing a 4-3-3 more often, micha rio vida evra in defence, with hargo(r) carrick(m) and ronaldo(l) in midfield, and rooney just behind berba and tevez. what with the new subs rule, allowing you to name 7, foster, brown, anderson, scholes, giggs nani and manucho makes a strong as hell bench.

    one can dream……

  • Liam: I totally agree with the comparison to Arsenal selling Henry. We’ve been way too reliant on Ronaldo this season and we need to play more like a team. No stand-out player but a unit of players who play for the glory of Manchester United, not for personal gains. We’ve already got a good base of players that play for the team in Rooney, Hargo, Rio, Vidic, and Evra, among others, who we can build onto and create a great team. Selling Ronaldo would allow others to shine, as the whole team would have to step up so we can stay strong.

    As for transfers; sell Ronaldo and get Ramos and Sneijder + money as Grognard said, and then buy a striker. For me it is Villa, but because of his recent hatrick his price is extremely inflated. Huntelaar would be good also. I don’t think we need a replacement for CR7 on the wing, as we can adapt and just use a different system of play. Obviously the hottest formation out there is 4-2-3-1 right now, which I think we could play well.

    VDS
    Ramos Rio Vidic Evra
    Carrick Hargo
    Sneijder Rooney Tevez
    Villa(Huntelaar)

  • Kurt Villa’s price will certainly go up after today… how was that for a finish against sweden… I wish rooney and tevez can finish chances like that… We really lack a composed striker after Ruud’s departure..

  • Hmm I didn’t watch much of the Spain game today, but Sergio Ramos looked a fool on the Ibrahimovic goal. Looking at him, my immediate thought was: “surely Wes Brown wouldn’t have prevented that goal”.

  • Funny Typo!!!

    What I meant was: Surely Wes Brown would have prevented that goal”.
    Lol :P

  • Liam; Losing Ronaldo could be a blessing depending on the players we replace him with but I wouldn’t compare it with Arsenal losing Henry because Henry’s best years were past him. Ronaldo on the other hand hasn’t yet reached his peak and may not reach it for 3 or 4 more years. That’s 3 or 4 years of dominance we would be losing. Look at Henry since he has left Arsenal and even in his last year at the club. He was hardly the Henry of old now was he? Ronaldo is coming off a World Player of the Year performance this season and he’s only 24. For me he has to be 27 or 28 before I consider his best years behind him.

    Also; a lot of us are sounding very defeatist and I am reminded of the guy who gets to a certain age and hasn’t found the beautiful girl of his dreams and now is willing to settle and marry the neighborhood spinster. As much as we are all mad as Hell with Ronaldo, we haven’t lost him yet and we may in fact not lose him. Yes that’s very optimistic but I prefer to go with that than try to analyze the worth of a player like Ramos or Robinho like we are settling for second best. Does that not sound a little defeatist and pathetic? I’m guilty of this too but I am starting to feel like we are looking really sad and desperate. It’s not becoming of neither United or it’s supporters. We are EPL and European Champions and we need not hang our heads in defeat or compromise. Patience and faith and all things will work out in our favor I think. With or without CR7. :)

  • Kurt; I certainly could live with that lineup. We’ll have to wait and see.

  • Grognard we haven’t lost him yet and I certainly agree that when we are talking about Robinho we’re settling for second best… But todays reports say that Real Madrid are going to the Glazers with a bid of 70 million. that might tempt them considering the debt that we have and we only have 5 years left to clear them… the 70 million will help us buy a high quality striker (if we find one who is willing to come to us that is) and clear some of the debt as well…

  • Krishnan; If we lose Ronaldo, we cannot just replace him with a good striker. This team needs a midfielder to be a supplier and give service to the forwards. That’s why I would love it if any deal with Madrid is made, that Wesley Sneijder is included in the package. The Glazer’s can keep the money they get because they already supposedly have OK’d a 50 million transfer kitty for Fergie regardless of a Ronaldo sale. The team does not need 120 million to retool. I’m all for the Glazer’s taking a large portion of the money and paying off the debt because we don’t want a financial calamity to happen to this team 5 years from now. Priority is not replacing Ronaldo with as much quality as Ronaldo. Priority is to remain competitive and not further taxt this team with more unwanted and unnecessary financial burden.

    I don’t believe we need Ramos or Robinho but I think we should take a lot of money from a proposed deal and Sneijder. Buy a striker and a winger with our alloted transfer kitty and I think we will be fine and have 50 to 70 million in the bank for the Glazer’s to pay off a large portion of the debt. I also feel it’s vital we buy players that want to play for us and dream of playing for us. I don’t want United to be a temporary stop over to Spain or Italy.

  • [Grognard]
    The Glazers have supposedly Ok’d a sale above 50 million? How can we assume that? This kind of news where “club X owners have given £Y million to the manager” comes every year. Why would a club declare publicly how much funds they’ve allocated for the summer — thus revealing their transfer plans.

    I know you’ve said that you find difficulty in trusting sources so here’s a rule of thumb when it comes to believing press reports: Look for quotes from members of the Glazer family (“unnamed sources” don’t count) or quotes from Gill or SAF or an important member from United or the Glazers’ organization — the source must be named. Otherwise the news is as good as no news.

    All we know is that the Glazers have — and Fergie has — said that United have funds to sell regardless of any eventuality.

    [krishnan]
    Again, todays reports say nothing new. Just no reliable quotes to back it up.

  • RR; Whether they have or haven’t declared the amount, I think it’s fair to assume that the Glazer’s have OK’d a fairly substantial transfer kitty just because we are Manchester United and we are one of the biggest club’s in the world. My point is I seriously doubt we need to sell players to be able to afford buying a striker and RB. Therefore, any money that comes from a Ronaldo sale can go directly to the Glazer’s provided we get either Ramos or a Sneijder or both along with cash in the sale.

  • The problem with Sneijder is he may be unwilling to leave as he’s only been at Madrid for one season. He may feel he owes them more than that. But also, it was probably never a dream of his to play there because he is Dutch, so maybe he is not that attached to the team.

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    Liam; Losing Ronaldo could be a blessing depending on the players we replace him with but I wouldn’t compare it with Arsenal losing Henry because Henry’s best years were past him. Ronaldo on the other hand hasn’t yet reached his peak and may not reach it for 3 or 4 more years. That’s 3 or 4 years of dominance we would be losing. Look at Henry since he has left Arsenal and even in his last year at the club. He was hardly the Henry of old now was he? Ronaldo is coming off a World Player of the Year performance this season and he’s only 24. For me he has to be 27 or 28 before I consider his best years behind him.

    Also; a lot of us are sounding very defeatist and I am reminded of the guy who gets to a certain age and hasn’t found the beautiful girl of his dreams and now is willing to settle and marry the neighborhood spinster. As much as we are all mad as Hell with Ronaldo, we haven’t lost him yet and we may in fact not lose him. Yes that’s very optimistic but I prefer to go with that than try to analyze the worth of a player like Ramos or Robinho like we are settling for second best. Does that not sound a little defeatist and pathetic? I’m guilty of this too but I am starting to feel like we are looking really sad and desperate. It’s not becoming of neither United or it’s supporters. We are EPL and European Champions and we need not hang our heads in defeat or compromise. Patience and faith and all things will work out in our favor I think. With or without CR7.

    Nicely said. I will have to eventually move on, but right now I’m still in a state of euphoria after the incredible season we’ve just had. I think we should be at the very least, optimistic about the future that lies ahead for Manchester United. Some of the players being mentioned to replace Ronaldo’s role in the team, although top quality (with the potential to become even better), are at the moment, second rate compared to Ronaldo. Since we can’t predict exactly what is going to happen in the future, we should just savor the moment, especially after such a wonderful year for both the team and Ronaldo. For better or worst, our club has always found out a way to win, especially when facing adversity.

  • [Grognard]
    Fair enough. And it’s amazing how the only two players that would interest me from Real’s side are Sneijder and Ramos which leaves us to wonder why Ronaldo would even contemplate moving to such a team.

  • RR; Excellent point. I look up and down their roster and they do nothing for me. I think they have a lot of average players at best. The fact they won La Liga speaks volumes for how far the Spanish League has gone down in the past two seasons. Truly, the only player on their roster that truly turns my crank is one Ruud van Nistelrooy. But I guess we will have to rule him out of a transfer to OT. Sneijder is a good player but he would not have been in my top 25 players I’d most want to see play for United list. At least not before the EURO’s started. Too bad this wasn’t Barcelona we were dealing with.

  • You forget Iker Casillas RR and Grognard, do you not? Surely he must spark some interest in you. But of course he is going to be playing for Real for the rest of his career, so I guess we might as well not even mention him.

  • kurt; Iker Cssillas is signed up for another seven years and has no intention of ever leaving Real. Like Raul, he is an institution at Madrid. We could try to get him but we would probably fail. Besides, GK is not going to be our most pressing need this upcoming season.

  • [Just1n]
    That’s idle speculation. No quotes in the article to back it up. Just the usual crap doing the rounds.

  • [RR]

    Yeah , I know. Nothing else to do but speculate. None of our transfers will be in the press until after we sign them. SAF has learned to keep activity under cover.

    But we are allowed to speculate, are we not?

  • [Just1n]
    Yes we are. Did I tell you not to? I was just referring to the article in question since you brought it up. That’s how it works: someone brings up a link and someone chimes in with his 2 cents worth.

    That’s all I was doing. Fair do, I would hope.

  • Grognard we haven’t lost him yet and I certainly agree that when we are talking about Robinho we’re settling for second best… But todays reports say that Real Madrid are going to the Glazers with a bid of 70 million. that might tempt them considering the debt that we have and we only have 5 years left to clear them… the 70 million will help us buy a high quality striker (if we find one who is willing to come to us that is) and clear some of the debt as well…

    Something that as mentioned in some articles when Platini attacked us for our debt is that the Glazers actually could pay off the debt tomorrow if they wished. They however get a better return by investing the money that would pay off the debt and then just paying the interest. As such I’m not sure the debts really that much of an issue.

    And when you think about the investment needed to replace Ronaldo and the kind of revenue loss we saw when we sold Beckham (as thats part of the reason Real want Ronaldo as his signing will be a money spinner that will put them back at the top of the income tables) I’m not sure 70mill would do too much to persuade the Glazers that it was worth selling him soley on a repayment of debts. Especially as Selling him may also impact our prize money earnings for a year or so as the replacements settle in

  • wakey; Good points but I also read that the continuing increase of world interest rates are making this loan more and more unpalatable for the Glazer’s. If they indeed could pay it off right now, I think those interest rates alone should force them to do so. Who knows? There is a lot of that deal that is very hush hush. One thing is clear to me now though, that one of the reasons we may not be signing any big names out there is because we don’t have the money to do so. This explains the rumors of Fergie’s bargain bin browsing for players like Fabiano and Santa Cruz. Buying either of them would be sending out a clear message that the club is financial turmoil and that we can no longer compete with the big clubs in Spain and Italy yet alone Chelsea.

  • Santa Cruz is hardly bargain basement. He may not have the buzz of the a Huntelaar but he has proven in the last year he he a top class, something which Huntelaar isnt. In fact Huntelaar is playing in a relatively low quality league where Afonso Alves was a major star and he has hardly settled into the country fantastically (He has shown flashes but far from being stellar). Huntelaar cant even make the starting 11 of Holland whos main striker is a player we flogged for no longer being upto it.

    And the Euros are on, very few clubs are doing business which has nothing to do with the credit crunch as the players aren’t available for negotiating. Even if the players themselves arent playing at the Euros somewhere in the merry go round there will be a playing at the Euros in the equation so very little will happen atm

  • Signing a talented youngster who will not play in the first team. What a waste :(

  • Yes wakey, The same league that spawned Ronaldo (Brazil), RVN, Johan Cruyff, Denis Bergkamp, Wesley Sneijder, Raphael Van Der Vaart, EVDS, Johan Neeskens, Ruud Krol, Marco Van Basten, Frank Rijkaard, Ruud Gullit, Edgar Davids, Clarence Seedorf and hundreds more tp class if not world class players. Yes the Eriedivisie is total shite. Every time somebody wants to make this silly argument the bring uop the names of Alfonso Alves and Kezman. Two foreigners who happened to have played in Holland and done well. Holland is a football factory and has the best youth system and development apparatus in the world. To compare Santa Cruz who is a bum compared to Huntelaar is really a laugh. I watched Santa Cruz struggle for three years at Bayern where he sucked royally because he could not play for a top team in pressure situations. Blackburn is hardly pressure. Huntelaar just follows the same path all these other Dutch stars that people are raving about now or in the past. He has to start somewhere. That does not dismiss the fact that he has world class talent. Watch high lites of him. Much of what he does has nothing to do with the weakness of his competition but the extraordinary talent and imagination he has. The only reason he isn’t playing for Holland as a starter is that RVN is still a great player and he is also in very good form. The fact that Holland choose to play one striker up front also doesn’t help. Van Basten has gone for experience. And RVN was sold for insubordination, not for not being up to it anymore. He lead La Liga last year in goals and that’s no mean feat. Sorry wakey but your arguments have no validity with me because I’ve been able to prove you wrong I feel. :)

  • If we really need to sell Ronaldo, let us ask for at least 100million Sneijder and
    Ramos and Ronaldinho.Real MADRID ,after all the hoopla , can never go back to their
    fans and say that they cannot afford the price.
    OOH … WHAT A THOUGHT. we can get RIBIERY, KAKA AND Huntelaar or even Torres
    (liverpool may sell him,I heard,if the price was right . Now, will that give us a world beating team or no?

  • [Grognard]

    The players you have named don’t prove my argument wrong because very few of them have played in the EPL. The EPL is a league that is fairly unique in its style and its a style that alot of world class players have failed to excel in. And you say Ruud was sold for insubordination which isnt imho true, if it had been he would have been sold the year before when he handed his transfer request in not left to throw a strop for a year.

    As for being a the top scorer on la liga, yes its a great achievement but the Spanish league suits him so much better, just like it seems clear that the English league suited Henry with his creativity and speed more than the slower spanish league is.

    And with Santa Cruz, he may have struggled in Germany and its possible its the pressure of playing at a top club BUT its just as possible that it was the league that hindered him. He is a proven Premiership player something alot of these others arent and that should be a major factor as theres as much chance of the likes of Huntelaar turning out to be as suitable as a prem players as the likes of Forlan/Veron as he is of being perfectly suited

  • hmm could have sworn I hit submit but I guess not.

    Anyway most of those names you listed have never played in the Prem, and the few who have generally came late in their careers and hardly set the world alight. The english league is fairly unique in the style of play and the dutch players generally settle better in the slower more techical leagues than our fast action packed league. Players can make the transistion but many fail and this is why Santa Cruz is as much a top class target as Huntelaar because he is a proven EPL player. And yes he may have struggled slightly in Germany but all that means is the league didnt suit him where as England clearly does, just look at Henry who clearly hasnt become shit over night but looks awful for Barca, or Forlan who didnt suddenly become great overnight but looks significantly better in Spain than he ever did for us.

    The chance of Santa Cruz making a major impact for us is simply alot less uncertain than it is for Huntelaar and with the club really needing another striker who you know will produce he is the smarter choice. TBH 2 strikers are needed anyway really but certainly if Huntelaar was signed you would need someone proven in the english league signed as well.

    As for Ruud going for insubordination, it may have played a part but if that was the reason he would have been out the door the summer after he handed his transfer request in. He went because he wasnt cutting it anymore in the prem and was causing the team issues in their play. I’m not saying his attitude didnt help him on his way but he needed moved on for the good of the club and for himself. He needed to be playing in a league like La Liga where his style of play would still work and would fit in the the team menatlity

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