Aug 28
Manchester United’s 08/09 Champions’ League Opponents
Today is the Champions’ League draw. This, coupled with the lack of progress on the Berbatov front (only four days to go), have made my job infinitely easier — I don’t have to come up with a longish post today.
Since the Champions’ League draw starts at 4:30pm (BST) I will leave the stage to you to come up with your predictions for our opponents. (I know, I can be a lazy prick at times).
So here are the pots:
Pot One
Manchester United
Chelsea
Liverpool
Barcelona
Arsenal
Lyon
Inter Milan
Real Madrid
Pot Two
Bayern Munich
PSV Eindhoven
Villarreal
AS Roma
FC Porto
Werder Bremen
Sporting Lisbon
Juventus
Pot Three
Marseille
Zenit St Petersburg
Steaua Bucharest
Panathinaikos
Bordeaux
Celtic
Basel
Fenerbahce
Pot Four
Shakhtar Donetsk
Fiorentina
Atletico Madrid
Dynamo Kiev
CFR Cluj
Aalborg
Anorthosis Famagusta
Bate Borisov
Okay, let’s see who gets their predictions right. The winner will get to do what no one else would be able to: swell with pride as much as Fat Frank on a pie-only regime, and boost his ego to an extent that would make Ronaldo squirm.
So, over to you…
PS: We’ll update this when the results are up.
Update:
Here’s our Group:
Manchester United
Villarreal
Celtic
Aalborg
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August 28th, 2008 at 10:07
im sure sky sports online should be showing it, they did last year…i think.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:07
United
FC Porto
Basel
CFR Cluj
August 28th, 2008 at 10:10
United
FC Porto
Bordeaux
Athletico Madrid
August 28th, 2008 at 10:14
Manchester United, Roma (inevitably
), celtic and Dynamo Kiev.
thats what will happen knowing how the draw is fixed.
chelsea however will end up with PSV Bordueux and alborg or something pity like that.
personally i want to play roma just to beat them again, celtic would be two great games, what with a lot of my mates celtic/utd fans it would be a win win for them. and out of the last pot preferrably a team that we can crush like small dog.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:29
My ‘worst case’ view:
United
Juve
Zenit
Atletico
We always seem to have a tough run. Bet you Chelsea get the easiest route
August 28th, 2008 at 10:41
Ideally:
Lisbon
Basel
Aalborg
Realistically:
Villareal
Zebit
Fiorentina
August 28th, 2008 at 10:41
Villarreal, Dynamo Kiev, Marseille
August 28th, 2008 at 10:42
Manu,Porto,Basel & Aalborg
August 28th, 2008 at 10:44
I reckon …
PSV , Bordeaux and Dynamo Kiev
Ditto re: Chelsea
August 28th, 2008 at 10:56
i’d really like to avoid bayern they have by far the best squad in pot b. Also athletico and Fenerbahce are potential banana skins.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:58
Worst case scenario(s):
United
Juve / Bayern
Zenit / Celtic
Atletico / Dynamo Kiev / Fiorentina
Best case:
United
Sporting Lisbon
Basel
Anyone other than the three mentioned above
August 28th, 2008 at 11:01
manchester,Roma
we,ve got that young player they wanted to keep.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:10
Untd,werder,bordeaux,fiorentina. I really feel am absurd
August 28th, 2008 at 11:11
@Beachryan:
I agree, except I might be tempted to slot Bayern in over Juventus. I suppose that depends chiefly on Ribery’s timetable to return, but if he is fit I would personally give Bayern a slight edge. I agree with Zenit and Atheltico. A. Madrid is the only team I am slightly nervous about drawing. Whichever group they end up will surely be labeled the “Group of Death.” I’m praying they end up in Chelsea’s group, but as Beachryan mentioned those pricks always get seem to get the easiest route.
My guess:
Manchester United
Bayern Munich
Bordeaux
Fiorentina
August 28th, 2008 at 11:15
We put 8 past Dynamo Kiev last season and it could of been more. They are an alright team but I have no worries coming up against them again.
I’d like to see United, Porto, Bordeaux and Bate Borisov (last one was random pick pretty much)
August 28th, 2008 at 11:16
Seldom an easy passage for us so I expect:
Bayern
Zenit (inevitable, like Pompey and the No 47 bus, come in batches) &
Fiorentina.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:19
United,juventus,panathinaikos,shakter donetsk
August 28th, 2008 at 11:27
Trust me this will happen
(AS ROMA)..the rest st beuchrest and kiev..
August 28th, 2008 at 11:29
Man United
Juventus
Zenit St.Petersberg
CFR Cluj
……….
August 28th, 2008 at 11:32
Just saw the official team photo – Saha and Manucho are both in it, I didn’t realise they were in the UK!
August 28th, 2008 at 11:39
United, PSV, Fenerbahce, Anorthosis Famagusta
August 28th, 2008 at 11:43
Bayern
Marseille
Atletico (best team in pots 4 and 3)
Liverpool
Bremen
Basel
either the Belarusian team or the Cypriot team
August 28th, 2008 at 11:44
I sincerly hope we get easy opponents since we have all teh important league away matches in first half of the season
my pick wud be
United
Villarreal
Steaua Bucharest
Bate Borisov
August 28th, 2008 at 11:54
Hope that’s for us
Manchester Untd FC
Sporting Lisbon FC (so as we have no problem to get to 16)
Panathinaikos FC (so I can watch the match in OAKA!!!!!!!!! please God!!!!BEGGING)
Aalborg (so I can watch Anderson make some carazy things such as these throgh passes he makes for ….. himself ) LOL
August 28th, 2008 at 12:22
posse-bon-bon-bon
not as good as anderson
posse-bon-bon-bon
but better than kleberson
to the left to the right
makes gerrard look like s***e
he is cool, a touch of class
and s***s on fabregas!
thats a good tune, i didnt make it up though, its on 606.
August 28th, 2008 at 12:23
@Beachryan: link?
August 28th, 2008 at 12:31
I keep reading that Chelsea have a better coefficient and thus a higher seed than us in the draw. How is this possible? Can anyone help shed some light?
August 28th, 2008 at 12:34
@IBleedRed: They do, as do Arsenal, Liverpool and Barca…
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/news/kind=1/newsid=740905.html
It’s based on performance over a 5 year period.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/calc.html
August 28th, 2008 at 12:41
Manchester United
AS Roma
Zenit St Petersburg
Atletico Madrid
August 28th, 2008 at 12:48
Peter Schmeichel is doing a live chat here at 15:20 CET (14:20 UTC?)
http://www1.en.uefa.com/portal/uefacom/liveblog.html
Should be good
August 28th, 2008 at 12:51
@dan(u-ol):
Dan: here u go…
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/08/27/in-pictures-official-manchester-united-squad-photos-released-115875-20713822/
August 28th, 2008 at 13:07
Manchester United
FC Porto
Basel
CFR Cluj
August 28th, 2008 at 13:34
@Ghost: thanks!
August 28th, 2008 at 13:35
Thanks Ghost, was just about to post that.
If Manucho is in the UK for the photo and training, does that mean we sorted his work permit? Unfortunately Fergie says he’s not fit due to metatarsal break still, but regardless, will be nice to see him in the reserves. I fear we’ve all hyped him up to be the next Drogba, but that’ll take years at this level. Still, he could be a useful impact sub, given height, speed and strength.
Is this Berba thing ever, ever going to end?
August 28th, 2008 at 13:51
Worst
Manchester United
Bayern Munich
Zenit
Atletico
Best
My prediction
Manchester United
Juventus
Marseille
Shaktar Donestk
August 28th, 2008 at 13:56
I don’t see the Berba thing going on till the last minute…it should be either done by this Fri or it won’t be! I think I’ll almost feel like we’ve just sold someone if Berba doesn’t sign..cos the last few weeks it has sure felt as if he’s already in our team!
Anywayz, my pick for the draw -
ManUtd
Villareal
Celtic
Fiorentina
Would be very interesting if we got Zenit in our group though, that way the Super Cup would almost feel like a 1st leg of a 3 match series
August 28th, 2008 at 13:57
You missed the ‘best’, Colver
August 28th, 2008 at 14:12
United,Sporting,Basel,Shaktar
August 28th, 2008 at 14:16
Manchester united
Bayern Munich
Celtic
CFR Cluj
August 28th, 2008 at 14:27
@Beachryan: It will never end, we will hear the imortal words for the 2132th time “another 48 hours we will know more” it is the year 2024, Fergie will be in his 80’s, Berba will be 43, but SAF will never give up until he gets his man, actually he will be a similar age to Laurent Blanc when we finally snared him.
August 28th, 2008 at 14:53
united, bremen, pana, shakhtar
August 28th, 2008 at 14:54
is there a site i can watch the draw live?
August 28th, 2008 at 14:55
Ronaldo has gone with the team to Monaco, though he won’t be playing. I think he’s planning to take part in the celebrations if we win.
August 28th, 2008 at 14:57
manchester united
werder bremen
bordeaux
fiorentina
August 28th, 2008 at 15:09
I really want Celtic to make it to the latter stages so any draw avoiding Juve, Bayern and Atletico would be fine for them. Wouldnt mind them being in our group as long as its with Sporting or someone like that. Its stupid that a team who have made it to the 2nd round 2 times in a row are seeded lower than a team who haven’t been in the tournament the last 2 years. Celtic do have a habit of getting groups of death when they are 3rd seeds though. Barca and Milan it was last time
August 28th, 2008 at 15:25
im not sure if you can watch it on a site but sky sports news are showing the draw at 4:30
hope Ferdinand wins defender of the year award 
August 28th, 2008 at 15:28
@ Krishnan – Nope, it’s the player of the year awards tonight in Monaco too. He was presumably invited
Not to say he won’t cheer us on. But there you go.
Am I the only one not 100% looking forward to him returning to the team?
August 28th, 2008 at 15:30
Manchester United FC
FC Porto
Celtic
Atletico Madrid
August 28th, 2008 at 15:41
@Beachryan: I think it’s also because he could share in the celebrations if we do win the trophy. After all he did play some part in us winning the CL.
August 28th, 2008 at 15:50
lads, this is season ending for us, im afraid to report, that, dongs contract has been terminated, thats right, he is no longer a united player… How can we win anything without a dong, i mean, with dong, this is season ending, we need to find a replacement ASAP!
August 28th, 2008 at 15:59
@dan(u-ol): Honestly dan, we are going through a striker crisis and SAF goes and terminates one of our best strikers’ contract
. What was he thinking???
August 28th, 2008 at 16:04
@dan(u-ol): @OllieY: You guys serious?
August 28th, 2008 at 16:08
@dan(u-ol): haha I saw that earlier, shirt sales will plumit now and we will find are selves borrowing money from are ex-chairmen(city jab). All joking aside I heard it was mutual Dong is 23 would have made it a long time ago if he was the ‘new Batistuta’ as SAF was claimed(rumour has it). Oh well time to find a replacement
Infact in the gaffers latest press conference he has AGAIN suggested that we are unlikely to bring anyone in(rumour again, if someone can verify please do). If this falls back on us I will be so pissed of.
Anyone pissed off they bought the perfectly okay black away strip of last season, only to see United’Nike department issue a Blue ‘anniversary’ 3rd away special edition HD bonus features included waste of £40 rip me off new kit out?
The CL draw is on Sky from 4.30 bst> half an hour.
I predict we get either Villareal or Roma and another hard ream.
The scouse will draw Sporting and the Cypriot team that sounds like a Serbian cage fighter. They and Chelski always blag easy draws.
August 28th, 2008 at 16:14
anyone know if sky sports channels apart from ss news are showing the draw live? Im at work and got my psp with location free player but only have virgin media…
August 28th, 2008 at 16:14
@AGP: This is Manchester United mate what do you expect?! Value for money!!
August 28th, 2008 at 16:25
@Stephen: True i guess but I won’t be buying either the white or blue away strips, it irratates me that Nike, Adidas, Umbro etc have contracts where-as they can issue new strips every season (2007-2008 man united black away) for example. That isn’t to say I won’t buy a united shirt again, plus I’m only irrated because last year I bought both the home/away(black) from the offical site at a more-than profitable sum whereas I could have bought both from certain websites that will charge a mere £8 for the famous jersey.
The 2006/2007 home only ran for one season also, you can’t suggest it isn’t a little unfair to the fans!
August 28th, 2008 at 16:29
My prediction:
Manchester United, Villareal, Basel, Shakhtar Donetsk
By the way, does anyone know if non-UK residents can watch online at Sky?
August 28th, 2008 at 16:33
These time converter are driving me crazy…
Can somebody please tell me how many hours there are to go for draw to start?
August 28th, 2008 at 16:36
30 mins till the actual draw starts. programme is on now… not that I can watch it… anyone know any alternative coverage apart from sky sports news?
August 28th, 2008 at 16:36
@Jezta: Of course not dummy!
When you use the words “Dong”, and “great player” in the same sentence (or make a reference to those words) then you can only have sarcasm pasted all over it. There is no other way round it.
August 28th, 2008 at 16:38
@AGP: Well my season ticket has gone up this year by a third, now thats unfair!
August 28th, 2008 at 16:39
Dong is the worst player ever to pull on a United shirt, and yes worse than Colin Gibson.
August 28th, 2008 at 16:48
http://www.skysports.com/live_draws/video
August 28th, 2008 at 16:49
just found out, uefa.com is showing LIVE video of the CL draw free..
August 28th, 2008 at 16:54
@Red Ranter: Was being sarcastic too mate, guess I forgot to put a hint in the post.
August 28th, 2008 at 16:56
Bayern are 20-1 to win the tournament according to the guy on Sky. Might be worth a tenner. Toni and Klose weren’t even on the list for top scorer which finished at 14-1. There could be money to be made there.
August 28th, 2008 at 16:58
@Stephen: Yeah ok the season ticket dilema you have wins over. You can have that one. I’m afraid you will have to lay off Dong he scored 30+ goals in Belguims second division and has a goal in the Olympics, only injuries ruled him out of being as legendary as William Prunier.
God I hate Skys line-up for the draw>
Big nose Thommo talking up boring Liverpools chances, Charlie Nicolas who is clearly bedazzled by Arsenal and the ‘pretty football’ he has to remind me about every week. Thats not forgetting Wilkins(I apoligise in advance) I was born when he was balding, but I can’t believe that clown ever wore are jersey. He has for the 3rd year running claimed that Chelsea will win everything, and he has his shinny head so far up Deco’ arse its laughable.-What a bunch of biased t**ts!
August 28th, 2008 at 16:59
@t_reason: Thanks for the tip… It works.
August 28th, 2008 at 17:03
did everyone see Sky’s cock up
August 28th, 2008 at 17:08
cech!!! NOOOOO, y not VDS…what has he won
August 28th, 2008 at 17:08
Fergie isnt letting Calderon get anywhere near Ronaldo. He practically has him on his lap
why did Cech get best goalkeeper?!
August 28th, 2008 at 17:14
Cech? Surely a poor joke
August 28th, 2008 at 17:17
Has it started already?
August 28th, 2008 at 17:17
I knew Cech would pull out Chelsea first. I smell a fix
August 28th, 2008 at 17:21
The female presenter is gorgeous. I’m going to have to change my shirt I’m drooling so much. Anyone know her name?
August 28th, 2008 at 17:23
f****ing hellllll!!! terry !! wats going on…think drogba will be the forward then..and lampard the midfielder
August 28th, 2008 at 17:23
August 28th, 2008 at 17:23
fecking fixed….terry? u have got to be kidding me
August 28th, 2008 at 17:23
Terry!!!!!!!! What a F*c*i* joke
August 28th, 2008 at 17:24
Terry? Best Defender? What did he said he was full of? Full of crap more like it lol
August 28th, 2008 at 17:24
How to become European defender of the year and england captain:
cry like a bitch when you get to cocky and lost a CL final…
August 28th, 2008 at 17:24
wtf! Cech then Terry did everybody suddenly forget that it was him who had the Champions league trophy in sight and then lost it??? Honestly!!!
August 28th, 2008 at 17:25
John Terry? What a $ucking boaster! No class at all…am I surprised? No
August 28th, 2008 at 17:26
shit not a good start
August 28th, 2008 at 17:27
PSV- pool get the easy ride
Villareal
August 28th, 2008 at 17:27
I think Villareal is a decent draw. We avoid Athletico, who I see as major spoilers.
August 28th, 2008 at 17:28
UTD
VILLAREAL
August 28th, 2008 at 17:32
if lampard or any other player wins this over ronaldo i want a recount and an investigation.
August 28th, 2008 at 17:32
FIXED!!! Fat Frank??? OMFG
Where was Ronaldo? He must be in the Forwards group
August 28th, 2008 at 17:32
lampard. is second the new first?
August 28th, 2008 at 17:32
all awards to chelsea!!!!!!!!!! crappppppppppppppp…
August 28th, 2008 at 17:32
Cech, Terry, Lampard.. What charity!!!
August 28th, 2008 at 17:32
fecking rigged…Fat Frank?
August 28th, 2008 at 17:33
FFS! Terry? Lampard?
Is there any justice?
August 28th, 2008 at 17:33
did we win the Champions League last year! Bobby had to give the award to fucking Frank. At least it wasn’t Gerrard but this is getting ridiculous
August 28th, 2008 at 17:33
is someone taking the piss??? who won the friggin champs league?? who won the friggin prem?? whats with this chelski nonsense!!! FAT FRANK FOR FRIG SAKE!!!!! aaaaarrrrrrrggggghhhh
August 28th, 2008 at 17:36
oh well we’ll get our revenge when Ronnie collects the next 2 unless, Messi
August 28th, 2008 at 17:36
If Drogba or Anelka win forward of the year, I am going to throw my computer out the window…
August 28th, 2008 at 17:39
This is good pinboard material to get our players riled up for this season…oh well…lets have celtic as well
August 28th, 2008 at 17:40
I had quit the blog but these players awards have left me gobsmacked and I have to rant about it somewhere.
Are the managers all blind, how can you pick Cech, Terry and lampard as the best. All 3 missed significant amounts of the season injured, Lampard was so piss poor for England that he was greeted with more boos than any other player and Terry was just generally disgraceful in his attitude.
I’m guessing we will see Drogba win the Forwards one now
August 28th, 2008 at 17:41
Celtic
August 28th, 2008 at 17:42
UNITED
VILLAREAL
CELTIC
I’m on track..Oh my God
…I have Fiorentina next.
August 28th, 2008 at 17:42
at last a bit of justice
August 28th, 2008 at 17:42
finally
August 28th, 2008 at 17:42
thats great. but he is a winger. nonsense.
August 28th, 2008 at 17:43
‘thank you my team mates’… i was expecting a ‘and my manager’
August 28th, 2008 at 17:43
Ugh, another season of the “Battle Of Britain” shit. It gets old and it always makes the bastards play better. And the British media love it and go oooooooooooooooooooooooooon about it. Boooooooooooring.
August 28th, 2008 at 17:44
he doesnt seem very happy to have won though
August 28th, 2008 at 17:45
yes finaly a easy peasy team
August 28th, 2008 at 17:45
aalborg it is….with villareal, celtic
August 28th, 2008 at 17:46
pretty easy group, we should go through, but this is blatantly fixed…
August 28th, 2008 at 17:47
Athletico should go to group H….that should be good
August 28th, 2008 at 17:48
oooooooooh, Torres to go back to Atletico. I hope he cant do it and fooks the scouse in the games.
August 28th, 2008 at 17:49
Phew…thank God it’s Aalborg and not Fiorentina..I would have freaked out…
August 28th, 2008 at 17:49
Liverpool are going out
August 28th, 2008 at 17:49
wow loserpool have a tough group
August 28th, 2008 at 17:50
I pity Bate Borisov…poor poor side..wat a Group of death for them!
August 28th, 2008 at 17:50
Phil is gutted
August 28th, 2008 at 17:52
the bindippers get athletico. j-u-s-t-i-c-e.
August 28th, 2008 at 17:53
@antsBoy: that’s a great draw for them. The money will be great for them
August 28th, 2008 at 17:55
@Liam: Yeah, looking at it that way…it’s good. Thinking about their “Goals Against” stats, not so good.
August 28th, 2008 at 17:59
I have an explanation for the wierd awards:
Goalkeeper of the year sponsored by http://www.geckoheadgear.com/
Defender of the year sponsored by http://www.kleenex.com/
Midfielder of the year sponsored by http://www.pukkapies.co.uk/
See it all becomes clear…
August 28th, 2008 at 18:04
Wakey – Feck mate, why did you quit the blog?. I wondered where you had got too. Hope you are staying now – where else you gonna rant and wind people up – just like I do. Trouble is, Liam and Gabriel are on to me now, they sussed my wind ups LOL.
August 28th, 2008 at 18:07
How much did the billionaire down at the Kremlin pay to get 3 of his players awards?. A feckin obscene amount of money no doubt. What does Edwin have to do?. In head to head penalty shoot outs against Cech, Edwin came out on top. Europe really don’t like United.
August 28th, 2008 at 18:12
All of those managers had poor poor taste in the first three choices… Maybe they felt sorry for them. Or perhaps the Russian made some phone calls. Oh well, at least Ronaldo has some more awards to go along with his ego.
August 28th, 2008 at 18:16
@dan(u-ol): lol, nice one Dan
August 28th, 2008 at 18:16
@dan(u-ol): And forward of the year: http://www.brylcreem.com/
August 28th, 2008 at 18:18
And I hope the manager of the year is sponsored by Black and Decker:
August 28th, 2008 at 18:22
@Craig Mc: Because I told him and Grognard not to talk to each other because they both just wound each other up way too much for me to keep my sanity and moderate comments. He didn’t like it and quit.
Of course, my doors are always open to those who quit.
I think that should be enough information on this matter.
As you normally put it, it was one of my tranquiliser shots.
Now let’s get back to discussing about the draw
August 28th, 2008 at 18:30
Larsson is coming back to the prem, we’ve just cancelled Dongs contract. Coincidence? I hope not. I’d bloody love Henrik back in the red.
Also, he’d get to go back to Celtic in the Champions League.
Fergie says he wants 4 top strikers. Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov and Larsson sounds like one hell of a setup. Especially if Saha gets fit (haha yeah I know) and ManUcho is half as good as we hype him up to be :
Another season at Hull for young fraizer methinks…..
August 28th, 2008 at 18:43
@Craig Mc: if I remember correctly before you quit you were one of the most loyal fans and a big supporter of the Roon. I was wondering why there was such a huge change of heart.
August 28th, 2008 at 18:48
@Red Ranter:
If you are going to tell the story tell it right as the way you have put it makes it look petty. What you actually said was if I replied to anything Grog said you would remove it (And you did to the perfectly fine comment I made before I got the mail telling me this) meaning in effect I couldnt take part in the majority of the discussions as he was posting 90% of the comments and was involved in every discussion.
And I quit because such a restriction is troublesome as all it takes is someone like Grog who doesnt like being challenged on his view to complain enough and the precedent has been set for you to state you would remove any comment you deemed a potential reply to them too.
As for Craigs question, I might post the odd comment like today but with the restriction hanging over my head its not worth getting into any serious discussion
August 28th, 2008 at 18:51
Manchester United
Villareal
Celtic
Aalborg
An easy group on paper but Celtic are not pushovers and neither are Villareal. Both teams are well organised and difficult to break down. I foresee a couple of draws.
If we could get Larsson back as a fourth striker Id like that. He’s an improvement on Manucho and Campbell at least, but Im still holding out for Berbatov. But I think it is all dependent on Tottenham signing another striker and its difficult to see who else they are going to be able to buy.
August 28th, 2008 at 18:54
@colver: you tell me how a 36/37 year old will be an improvement on what we already have…
August 28th, 2008 at 18:57
well done to ronaldo… at long last. but.
who the fucking fuck won the chamions league… thats right, so why the fuck has the best defender, goalkeeper and midfielder come from the losers?
i mean… which keeper won in the penalty shootout?
which midfielder scored to put us through?
and which fucking muppet cunt fucked up his chance of slipping on his chelsea arse to miss a sitter? yea thats right.. the best defender in the champions league thats who.
honestly.. if theys awards mattered at all id be pissed. but hell im pissed now… surely the best players are from the team that won the bloody thing. fucking chelsea scum.. carn’t wait to
playbeat them.p.s. celtic home and away will be amazing.
August 28th, 2008 at 19:02
Shit me that draw gets more boring, more Eurovision each year.
I mean christ I think I predicted the scouse group and if we had got Kiev I would have had are group correct as well.
Chelski again get a easy draw whats worse is Terrys smug face as he walks past Fergie, Am I alone in thinking Carvalho is 10 times better than him and that Terry had not just his worst season but he missed f**king half on it.
Ladies and Gentleman if Uefa ain’t rigged it again I don’t know, it seems UEFA gets more WWF every year with these boring fixed emotionally tied draws.
I thought Bobby was gonna bitch slap that male presenter for making him announce fat Franks name.
Should get through though top but a few hard away games. Arsenal will struggle there away games will screw them up. The BIG4 will all get through.
Liverpool (A)
Villareal(H)
Chelsea (A)
DECENT week of football there!!
August 28th, 2008 at 19:04
@dan(u-ol): because he oozes class and his link play with rooney was sublime last time around. plus he keeps himself lean and fit so his age realy doesn’t come into it.
August 28th, 2008 at 19:08
Terry the best defender???? I mean he made a great game in the ch l final but he blew it up by a stupid slip…..Ferdinad and Van der Saar deserved the best player awards more than C.(cunt)ronaldo did
August 28th, 2008 at 19:33
Well, well, well, ‘Michelle’ Platini is up to his usual coniving again. How the hell did John ‘CryBaby’ Terry get defender of the year? Or even Cech with Keeper of the year? If this is not a biased/rigged/bribed decision, I don’t know what is. Something smells rotten, and it’s not Platini’s breath.
This ‘Bring United down’ thing is going too far, first Platini’s CL prize money rant, Council refusal for United parade, Calderon’s public United bashing, Blatter’s Slave outburst, Levy’s outburst, now this injustice!!! WTF?
They can all go to hell for all I care… we will keep on winning and I hope this unfair snub will make Fergie, Rio, VDS and co more determined to whoop ass this season!!
August 28th, 2008 at 19:34
Anyone else heard that Henry has been in Manchester, supposedly for a medical
Just speculation I must warn nothing concrete.
August 28th, 2008 at 19:39
Ok Guys this is serious!
I mean Terry the best defender?
Seriously I am WORRIED about Rio!
First the england captaincy and now this.
August 28th, 2008 at 20:29
We should go through that group should be straight forward. Arsenal have a tough one I think, If we sign Henry which we won’t, I will never go to another United game, he is a big time bottler and poser, ps not a big fan!! Dan those links are class!!
August 28th, 2008 at 20:32
@Wakey:
Yes you quit and made a principled stance that you wouldn’t return until I took that ban off you. Is it me, or am I finding that stance of yours change all of a sudden just because John Terry and Frank Lampard won awards? Not that this is the only United blog that is out there.
Ok, maybe I made it sound petty. Maybe, it is. Maybe it is not. But you don’t exactly cover yourselves in glory right now with your about turn. So stop trying to take a moral high ground.
As I said, if you can stop talking about Grognard or making reference to him your posts will be approved — unlike you, my stance on that hasn’t changed. Or else move on… there are better things in life than this.
Because, regarding making decisions here, I do reserve the ultimate right to my own discretion. If you don’t agree, it will be unfortunate. In your situation with Grognard, I disagree with your version of the story. So there…
You have anything more to say, use the email. It’s just your second comment since your return and you’ve started bitching about Grognard. You see what I mean?
I really don’t think it’s worth talking about all this over here in public.
God give me strength.
August 28th, 2008 at 20:35
@Red Ranter: Where is Grognard? I cant see him on the posts!
August 28th, 2008 at 20:37
@Red Diablo: He’s not here apparently. He lives in Canada I think
August 28th, 2008 at 20:53
I just realised that we will meet Rossi again.
Hopefully he will miss Old Trafford when he visits us again and loses 
August 28th, 2008 at 20:54
I fucking hate Chelsea for the following reasons.
Lampard- Greedy ponce, only stayed at the club he er loves, and showed him support through his family situation, or because they gave him a 5 year contract at the age of 30, unheard of, in top level football.
JT- Well being simply known by the media (al la Jason Cundy) as JT makes me want to vomit. A player who is so limied in his ability it is untrue, the spitting at Tevez not included in the defender of the year menagerie, crying wimp England/Chelsea captain marvel!!
Kenyon- Smug self proclaimed United fan, selling your soul to the devil, chipping Ronaldinho @ the last minute, runners up medal leading arsewipe.
Mikel- Bullshitting about contract pressures and being generally amoying mouthy twat.
Drogba- Well being think speaks for itself.
A Cole- £55k a week made me feel sick, knob!
Ballack- Behaviour in ECP awful, love to see the referees stance if it was Rooney.
I could go on for hours!!
August 28th, 2008 at 21:15
@Red Ranter: OK! He lives in Canada! So can you tell me if there is a reason he doesnt post on this blog anymore? I mean was there a War between Canada and the USA?
August 28th, 2008 at 21:37
Liam mate, didn’t you read my post to Wakey a little earlier in the thread?. UNless RR wiped it out that is. I said that Gabriel and you had sussed my winding up people on the blog about Rooney etc. But reading your post just now, I guess not – haha!. Liam I love Rooney, but I still claim the right to say when he is playing shit. Or when he disrespects other players by turning up smoking and overweight by a stone or two. My recent posts I was winding you all up. Thought you got that lol.
August 28th, 2008 at 21:53
Wakey, get your arse back on the blog mate, you can still have your deep and meaningful interactions. Feck me, I sound like Red Ranter now with my psychiatrists couch lol. Seriously though, I have been winding up the Rooney fans, but one or two managed to see what I was doing, and my mischief was found out.
RR – why oh why do people even bother to email you with complaints over and over again?. Its a feckin blog, and FUN for some open warfare on site, but moaning to the blog master behind the scenes, hell I just don’t get it. It shouldn’t be that serious. I learn’t that ages ago, so I say what I say, and if others don’t agree, then to me that makes for a great debate. We are not all going to agree, that’s the fun of it. I love it when people gang up against my posts, bring it on lads. Prepare yourself for repeated defeats though.
Andrei – Ronaldo better than Rooney – a million times. Though the Roon is better than most other teams forward players.
August 28th, 2008 at 21:58
RR – errr why are all my posts saying Waiting for moderation?. You got a vendetta going or what?. Or have you got a LUNATIC blog moderator on the loose?.
August 28th, 2008 at 22:22
@Craig Mc: The blog’s system sometimes puts comments on hold sometimes. It’s bugs in the system.
And about complaints, anything that concerns a problem a commenter may have on other fellow commenters that’s not United related needs to be done off the comments section with me. That’s my policy on here.
And I can’t understand why it bothers you if people email me their concerns. Whining in public on the comment threads always distracts from the discussing about what we’re here mainly for. And I don’t mind banter about United or anything you want in general. But I take issue with name calling and stuff like when a commenter is wrongly accused of stuff and he needs his concerns to be redressed.
August 28th, 2008 at 22:27
Villarreal! Can’t wait! They have two great young attackers in Jozy Altidore and Giuseppe Rossi, should be two great attacking games hopefully.
Celtic games should be good too
August 28th, 2008 at 22:29
@Red Diablo: He’s probably taken a break. I would tell you if I had booted him off. But I haven’t. So I can’t say.
August 28th, 2008 at 23:01
@Red Ranter: or his back again….
August 28th, 2008 at 23:22
@nigerred: please tell me your name is niger as in nigel or niger the country…
August 28th, 2008 at 23:41
Nigerred, do you just like smilies, or are you sending us all a message in smiley code?.
RedRanter, I didn’t say it bothered me that people moan their concerns to you. I just said that I don’t understand it, nor would I ever do it myself, as you know. Still whatever turns people on I guess!.
August 28th, 2008 at 23:45
Oh and Red Ranter, so it was you who tranquilised the blog, when it was so quiet and sedate, that I had to stir up a Rooney hornets nest, to wake us up from the deadness lol!.
August 29th, 2008 at 0:22
@nigerred: @Krishnan: wat’s up with the smiley code
fill the rest of us in 
August 29th, 2008 at 0:26
btw, you guys read this? That’ll be the some coup, if it happened…
August 29th, 2008 at 4:00
Group E
united
villareal
celtic
AaB
August 29th, 2008 at 4:10
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/tottenham/article4630065.ece
It is tough to disregard as it comes from one of the few rags that seems to have any integrity. I hope it isn’t a load of bollocks.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:02
@Craig Mc: It doesn’t turn me on. It’s to avoid dirty linen being washed here in the comments thread.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:48
Red Ranter, mmmmm, I wasn’t meaning you when I talked about whatever turned people on.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:51
Red Devil, for heavens sake, not you as well with the smilies!. I can see an overuse of smilie bans being introduced, and sooner, rather than later please.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:02
M(ad)A(rrow)N(eutral)C(ool)H E(ek)S(hock)T(wisted)E(ek)R(oll)
MANCHESTER!
August 29th, 2008 at 10:32
saha to everton!
)
(subject to him passing a medical
August 29th, 2008 at 10:40
also, the bulgarian standard is relaying information from ‘well-informed’ sources that berba has signed
August 30th, 2008 at 2:45
oh no nightmare just started !