Comments on: Much Ado About Ferdinand, And Some Loads of Ballacks http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/ Manchester United Blog Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:53:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: soccerpanna http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/comment-page-1/#comment-4185 soccerpanna Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:12:38 +0000 http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/#comment-4185 Ballack was better in the bundisliga ! Ballack was better in the bundisliga !

]]> By: Conor http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/comment-page-1/#comment-4172 Conor Sun, 09 Sep 2007 11:31:31 +0000 http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/#comment-4172 'canarinha (brasil to you uneducated people' here why would you call them the canarinha? Make yourself feel smarter than everyone else? Get a life like... call them brazil like every other normal person... ‘canarinha (brasil to you uneducated people’ here why would you call them the canarinha? Make yourself feel smarter than everyone else? Get a life like… call them brazil like every other normal person…

]]> By: SP http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/comment-page-1/#comment-4167 SP Sun, 09 Sep 2007 05:07:32 +0000 http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/#comment-4167 Ferdinand's recent lapses in concentration have been placed in the spotlight and yes, John Terry will have replaced him in the England's centre back pecking order. I do not think Ferdinand's inability to develop into the elegant player Oliver Holt envisaged has anything to do with playing for Manchester United. United has always adopted an open style of play but defenders are not expected to support the attack. In fact, Manchester United has paid the price for being too cavalier in Europe by playing 4-4-2 and that is why Ferguson toyed with the system of 1 outfield striker only. If "defenders defend" concept is wrong and that has destroyed Ferdinand's talent, so be it. Ferdinand’s recent lapses in concentration have been placed in the spotlight and yes, John Terry will have replaced him in the England’s centre back pecking order.

I do not think Ferdinand’s inability to develop into the elegant player Oliver Holt envisaged has anything to do with playing for Manchester United.

United has always adopted an open style of play but defenders are not expected to support the attack. In fact, Manchester United has paid the price for being too cavalier in Europe by playing 4-4-2 and that is why Ferguson toyed with the system of 1 outfield striker only.

If “defenders defend” concept is wrong and that has destroyed Ferdinand’s talent, so be it.

]]> By: Sam http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/comment-page-1/#comment-4160 Sam Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:56:07 +0000 http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/#comment-4160 adil mate you are dreaming...yea brasil, is probably the best team in the world despite the average wc, is better but argentina is class. the football they played up to the final of copa america was fantastic to watch. just is a pity that "juan roman the magic man" isnt making an appearance. in a country where 'soccer' isnt the major sport...or close to it having a team like argentina come with messi, tevez and co..and that money grubbing scouser loving drop kick is a fantastic thing. you people who are lucky enough to watch world class club football live week in and week out enjoy it because for us tv is the closest thing we can get. ive been to europe 6 times now and watched a handful of games live but that only makes it harder to come home and watxh it on tv!! so dont take this away from me!!!!! adil mate you are dreaming…yea brasil, is probably the best team in the world despite the average wc, is better but argentina is class. the football they played up to the final of copa america was fantastic to watch. just is a pity that “juan roman the magic man” isnt making an appearance. in a country where ’soccer’ isnt the major sport…or close to it having a team like argentina come with messi, tevez and co..and that money grubbing scouser loving drop kick is a fantastic thing. you people who are lucky enough to watch world class club football live week in and week out enjoy it because for us tv is the closest thing we can get. ive been to europe 6 times now and watched a handful of games live but that only makes it harder to come home and watxh it on tv!! so dont take this away from me!!!!!

]]> By: footballguy http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/comment-page-1/#comment-4155 footballguy Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:20:15 +0000 http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/#comment-4155 i totally disagree wit the article. 1st. the problem with england of late, has never been defensive. in both world cups ferdinad has played in the defensive has been extremly solid. ferdinand was better thn terry in the last world cup. im tired of thm using him as a scape goat, and kissing terry's arse, as tho he has been the be all and end all of the team. beckham although nt an outright captain was a better captain thn england, and more influencial. 2nd the problem with englan is the foward line, thy only have 2 world class strikers in owen and rooney. also the attackin impetus and originality is extremly poor. they play a mixture of middlesbrough and chelsea's football. ie a mixture of maclaren and chelsea i totally disagree wit the article.
1st. the problem with england of late, has never been defensive. in both world cups ferdinad has played in the defensive has been extremly solid. ferdinand was better thn terry in the last world cup. im tired of thm using him as a scape goat, and kissing terry’s arse, as tho he has been the be all and end all of the team.

beckham although nt an outright captain was a better captain thn england, and more influencial.

2nd the problem with englan is the foward line, thy only have 2 world class strikers in owen and rooney. also the attackin impetus and originality is extremly poor. they play a mixture of middlesbrough and chelsea’s football. ie a mixture of maclaren and chelsea

]]> By: adil alhinai http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/comment-page-1/#comment-4154 adil alhinai Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:23:47 +0000 http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/#comment-4154 classy team sam, argentina are pure shit and the mighty canarinha (brasil to you uneducated people) proved it, by beating them in the 3rd consecutive major tournament final, :D classy team sam, argentina are pure shit and the mighty canarinha (brasil to you uneducated people) proved it, by beating them in the 3rd consecutive major tournament final, :D

]]> By: Sam http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/comment-page-1/#comment-4150 Sam Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:32:25 +0000 http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/#comment-4150 i dont think essien will ever leave chelsea. was reading a magazine about the EPL men of the season (got to love the gingers deep interviews!!)and he was quoted as saying he wants to play out his career at stamford, and just signed a new contract. regarding ballack i would love to see him head to real, as much as i hate them i just think he deserves the chance to play champions league football especially as the captain of a national team that was looking like world cup winning material. i dont know why real didnt make a large offer for the both ballack and robben earlier. i think chelsea would have bitten. its not as if those rich spainards cant aford to dig a little deeper. anyway lads got to get ready to head off to the east coast to go and see tevez in action with argentina against the good ol socceroos...finally a classy team in aus!!! i dont think essien will ever leave chelsea. was reading a magazine about the EPL men of
the season (got to love the gingers deep interviews!!)and he was quoted as saying he wants to play
out his career at stamford, and just signed a new contract. regarding ballack i would love to see
him head to real, as much as i hate them i just think he deserves the chance to play champions
league football especially as the captain of a national team that was looking like world cup
winning material. i dont know why real didnt make a large offer for the both ballack and robben
earlier. i think chelsea would have bitten. its not as if those rich spainards cant aford to dig
a little deeper.

anyway lads got to get ready to head off to the east coast to go and see tevez in action with
argentina against the good ol socceroos…finally a classy team in aus!!!

]]> By: karl http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/comment-page-1/#comment-4147 karl Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:22:54 +0000 http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/#comment-4147 Fully agree with JB. I think Holt writes shit because shit sells well. Regarding Ballack/Robben thingie, not so sure about Ballack (might have been another Veron), but Robben for sure. Imagine having Robben and Ronaldo operating the flanks? Whew! The biggest regret however remains Essien. We were looking for a Roy Keane, thee he is. I wonder if Fergie can't unsettle him, the way Liverpool did with Heinze? It's definitely worth a try. Fully agree with JB.

I think Holt writes shit because shit sells well.

Regarding Ballack/Robben thingie,
not so sure about Ballack (might have been another Veron), but Robben for sure. Imagine having Robben and Ronaldo operating the flanks? Whew!
The biggest regret however remains Essien. We were looking for a Roy Keane, thee he is. I wonder if Fergie can’t unsettle him, the way Liverpool did with Heinze? It’s definitely worth a try.

]]> By: R... http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/comment-page-1/#comment-4144 R... Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:15:31 +0000 http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/#comment-4144 I concure. I concure.

]]> By: JB http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/comment-page-1/#comment-4143 JB Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:25:48 +0000 http://redrants.com/much-ado-about-ferdinand-and-some-loads-of-ballacks/#comment-4143 Perif: If I'm not mistaken I believe Holt is/was a United fan. Fair play to him though, his job is to shift papers and get people talking which he has probably achieved! An interesting description of Holt from another message board some time ago. "The problem with Holt is he thinks he's Brian Glanville but he's really Sean Custis in a gorrilla suit." For me Ferdinand’s true capability is only obvious when he is absent. In 2003/4 the first half of the season our defence looked nigh on bullet proof. Silvestre was amongst the top defenders in the league, Brown and the Nevilles were playing well and O'Shea was coming off the back of a great debut season. Then Rio misses a drugs test and the ENTIRE back line completely falls apart. That is his real strength; his presence enhances the entire defensive unit, bringing an air of calmness and stability that few other defenders in the world can provide. That was what we paid the £30m for. Perif: If I’m not mistaken I believe Holt is/was a United fan. Fair play to him though, his job is to shift papers and get people talking which he has probably achieved! An interesting description of Holt from another message board some time ago.

“The problem with Holt is he thinks he’s Brian Glanville but he’s really Sean Custis in a gorrilla suit.”

For me Ferdinand’s true capability is only obvious when he is absent. In 2003/4 the first half of the season our defence looked nigh on bullet proof. Silvestre was amongst the top defenders in the league, Brown and the Nevilles were playing well and O’Shea was coming off the back of a great debut season. Then Rio misses a drugs test and the ENTIRE back line completely falls apart. That is his real strength; his presence enhances the entire defensive unit, bringing an air of calmness and stability that few other defenders in the world can provide. That was what we paid the £30m for.

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