Comments on: Ngog’s dive — aka a lesson in refereeing conspiracy theories

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:43:21 +0000

Jay Wire, Thanks for the advice mate but I have been going for about 11 seasons and the odd murmour is hardly booing, you need to get your facts right pal.

By: Red Ranter

Red Ranter — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:29:02 +0000

@Grognard: The site is all good, but subscribe to their podcast. That's their bread and butter, so to speak. They are all just ordinary fans talking about football, in completely non-PC way and they are pretty funny. @NicoQB: Well then he's the exception to the rule then. Lyon's strategy of driving a great bargain is quite well known I'm sure. They seem to get the best out the transfer market every time. Essien, Diarra, Benzema. I'm sure they'll then sell Toulalan and still manage to unearth someone new. For a small club to come to dominate French football completely, it's a great story of how well run clubs can succeed and play the transfer market to its advantage. That was the point I think I was trying to get across.

By: NicoQB

NicoQB — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:18:50 +0000

@Red Ranter: Benzema’s father had to BEG Lyon for him to be given a run in their academies!!!

By: Grognard

Grognard — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:42:49 +0000

@Red Ranter: Nice site RR, thanks.

Everyone, check this out. United need to sign this chick Lambert. This is the kind of Roy Keane stuff we’ve been missing in our midfield. I want to marry that chick.

http://www.thefootballramble.com/blog-full.asp?id=49

By: Onkar

Onkar — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:07:45 +0000

@Grognard: Its simple bro.. Finding something which more relevant, more important.... If you can do that, then it will always motivate you to live, live strong and live long....

By: Red Ranter

Red Ranter — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:35:05 +0000

I should recommend the Football Ramble podcast. It’s fantastic, funny, irreverent and certainly not PC Currently it’s number 1 in the UK in itunes. Give it a shot. Worth it.

By: Grognard

Grognard — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:21:14 +0000

@Onkar: That’s terrible what happened to your GF. And you are so right about dealing with depression. Too bad more people aren’t as strong as you or myself for that matter. I just said to myself life’s not perfect, I’ve been given a bum hand and now I just have to learn to live with it and make the best of it. Not perfect, I still get into melancholy moods but it doesn’t take much to snap me out of it. Sometimes it’s a good movie or a great game, or just a good song or getting together with friends. Life is not perfect but from where I sit, it beats death.

By: Onkar

Onkar — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:52:52 +0000

@Grognard: I agree mate. I mean Doctor’s timely intervention and the will power of the person are the most important things that can support person out of depression. Along with that I think its important how your family and close friends act and help you. I mean they should tender at the same time they should be realistic enough and should not loose there own rationality while dealing with depressed person.
I mean I still remember the time when my Ex GF left me. I mean I won’t say that I lost my head or got depressed I am too strong for that but when I had a call from local police station saying that my GF has been brutally stabbed in the chest to her death. Can you imagine what might have gone through my head. It was storm that came and struck. But, I should say there were only two things along with the support from family which kept me in shape so much so that I got back to my routine within 48 hrs. And those two things were my strong will to not allow anything to affect me and Man UTD. When I use to be alone and not having anyone to talk to and all I used to get bit depressed and at that time I used to see old manchester united with strongest characters in the game (I have at least seen) like ROY and PS. It me a lot.
But, I that time I realized that no depression is that bigger than your life you can always find something that can bail you out.
Now, just like I have a great GF today (even though she is a dipper), great life and Man UTD is doing well, so those days seems long back…
BTW, basing on your recommendation I have ordered the book from Amazon.. Its on its way…..

By: Redrich

Redrich — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:43:30 +0000

@Red Ranter: Yep, and not just 2 heads being better than one, but the concept of having a broader view of each situation will go a long way to satisfy the frustrations of players and managers.
In Rugby, for example, they implemented the video replay and at the same time they cracked down, harshly on player violations and decent.
In a way it worked because the system and it’s new checks and balances were deemed fair by both sides. It allowed the refs the power they wanted, and the teams a sense of fairness with the decisions they made,

It could be the same in Football, and for the same reasons.
The refs, will not get respect until their ability to make better judgements is realized, and the teams (managers & players) will not better their behavior until a better justice system is implemented.
One is conducive with the other, and until the negotiating parties realize this, the impasse will remain.

With reasonable give and take, it will be possible to hold the refs feet to the fire, and also hold managers and players responsible for their outbursts. As it stands right now there is really no fair way to judge the right ane wrong in all this!!

By: Red Ranter

Red Ranter — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:59:08 +0000

@Grognard: I wanted to read the book first. I ordered it a couple of days ago it's on its way.