Comments on: On Ferguson and ref rage http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/ Manchester United Blog Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:52:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Grognard http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/comment-page-4/#comment-86316 Grognard Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:39:58 +0000 http://redrants.com/?p=2242#comment-86316 @<a href="#comment-86297" rel="nofollow">Stephen</a>: Lets see at the end of the season who is right on this one. I personally find it ridiculous to count them out 8 or 9 games into the season considering they almost won the title last year and started even worse than this year form wise. Sure they have already lost three games but United has lost more games than the second place team for the past three seasons and still won the title. @Stephen: Lets see at the end of the season who is right on this one. I personally find it ridiculous to count them out 8 or 9 games into the season considering they almost won the title last year and started even worse than this year form wise. Sure they have already lost three games but United has lost more games than the second place team for the past three seasons and still won the title.

]]> By: Stephen http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/comment-page-4/#comment-86297 Stephen Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:33:51 +0000 http://redrants.com/?p=2242#comment-86297 @<a href="#comment-86296" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: Mate they have Stevie Me and Torres their other top player is Mascherano, come on Grog be realistic they have lost too many games and do not have the strength to win the title or finish above us. @Grognard: Mate they have Stevie Me and Torres their other top player is Mascherano, come on Grog be realistic they have lost too many games and do not have the strength to win the title or finish above us.

]]> By: Grognard http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/comment-page-3/#comment-86296 Grognard Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:15:14 +0000 http://redrants.com/?p=2242#comment-86296 @<a href="#comment-86273" rel="nofollow">Stephen</a>: I would never count out Liverpool because they have to extremely world class players that are able to elevate their games at clutch moments. But I believe that Arsenal are much better than you think. They aren't perfect but they seem to have a drive this season that I think may cause us problems. I also think and believe that Chelsea will win the league. As for Man City, not in our lifetime can I see them bettering us. I HOPE! @Stephen: I would never count out Liverpool because they have to extremely world class players that are able to elevate their games at clutch moments. But I believe that Arsenal are much better than you think. They aren’t perfect but they seem to have a drive this season that I think may cause us problems. I also think and believe that Chelsea will win the league. As for Man City, not in our lifetime can I see them bettering us. I HOPE!

]]> By: Grognard http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/comment-page-3/#comment-86295 Grognard Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:12:08 +0000 http://redrants.com/?p=2242#comment-86295 @<a href="#comment-86269" rel="nofollow">RedTan</a>: My my, did we get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? I find your replies to me to be a little rude, and uninformed. You are new to this blog yet I have been hear close to three years and have not been told off in this back handed a manner. I have nothing against you mate but never ever accuse me of not reading other's comments again. I try to read every comment on this blog as well, I damn well guarantee that I read every comment that is addressed to me. You assume that your questions will be seen as criticism yet you word your comments in such a mean spirited manner intended to offend rather than examine. You know nothing about me but you should know this. Anybody who gets into a sparring battle of wits with me on this blog will lose. Secondly, I am not looking for a fight with you or anyone. I have a right to my views on the club and this site encourages all views, even those from people who do not tow the conformist line. If you see everything from a glass that's half full, that is fine and I respect that, but never feel that I have to agree with you or that i have to conform to your mantra. And you don't have to agree with mine. But we have to both be tolerant of each other's views and above all, respectful. I have been a fan of this club longer than you, so don't throw that card at me because I go back to the mid 70's with my allegiance. I have seen all the good with the bad too. I see that Fergie is nearing the end of his magnificent reign with the club and that under this current ownership, the future looks far from comforting and secure. I was not shooting you down. I was disagreeing with you. Find me a passage in my comments where I threw an insult or made a statement that is shooting you down. Disagreeing with people is not a crime on this blog mate. The fact I do not share your view is not a crime and by all means, disagree with me on mine, but above all, tolerate people's rights to differ and respect that. Stop getting personal and "cynical". I meant no offense to you and if you saw offense in what I wrote, I think you need to reread my post as well, I think you need to lighten up a bit. Am I the biggest red fan of all time? Don't be ridiculous. I am however a committed hard core fan who loves his team and who cares enough to not just be an innocent bystander or wallflower and chooses to challenge the status quo and ask the hard questions. If that is a crime in your books, I suggest you try another blog because you will find many like me on Red Rants. If you are just being cranky today, chalk it up as a wake up message, welcome aboard and hopefully we can get beyond your initial impression of me and have many interesting and stimulating debates in the future. But quit right now with the personal attacks. Nobody attacked you mate. Disagreements are not attacks. @RedTan: My my, did we get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? I find your replies to me to be a little rude, and uninformed. You are new to this blog yet I have been hear close to three years and have not been told off in this back handed a manner. I have nothing against you mate but never ever accuse me of not reading other’s comments again. I try to read every comment on this blog as well, I damn well guarantee that I read every comment that is addressed to me.

You assume that your questions will be seen as criticism yet you word your comments in such a mean spirited manner intended to offend rather than examine. You know nothing about me but you should know this. Anybody who gets into a sparring battle of wits with me on this blog will lose. Secondly, I am not looking for a fight with you or anyone. I have a right to my views on the club and this site encourages all views, even those from people who do not tow the conformist line. If you see everything from a glass that’s half full, that is fine and I respect that, but never feel that I have to agree with you or that i have to conform to your mantra. And you don’t have to agree with mine. But we have to both be tolerant of each other’s views and above all, respectful.

I have been a fan of this club longer than you, so don’t throw that card at me because I go back to the mid 70’s with my allegiance. I have seen all the good with the bad too. I see that Fergie is nearing the end of his magnificent reign with the club and that under this current ownership, the future looks far from comforting and secure. I was not shooting you down. I was disagreeing with you. Find me a passage in my comments where I threw an insult or made a statement that is shooting you down. Disagreeing with people is not a crime on this blog mate. The fact I do not share your view is not a crime and by all means, disagree with me on mine, but above all, tolerate people’s rights to differ and respect that. Stop getting personal and “cynical”.

I meant no offense to you and if you saw offense in what I wrote, I think you need to reread my post as well, I think you need to lighten up a bit. Am I the biggest red fan of all time? Don’t be ridiculous. I am however a committed hard core fan who loves his team and who cares enough to not just be an innocent bystander or wallflower and chooses to challenge the status quo and ask the hard questions. If that is a crime in your books, I suggest you try another blog because you will find many like me on Red Rants. If you are just being cranky today, chalk it up as a wake up message, welcome aboard and hopefully we can get beyond your initial impression of me and have many interesting and stimulating debates in the future. But quit right now with the personal attacks. Nobody attacked you mate. Disagreements are not attacks.

]]> By: RedTan http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/comment-page-3/#comment-86275 RedTan Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:54:09 +0000 http://redrants.com/?p=2242#comment-86275 @<a href="#comment-86236" rel="nofollow">spizzy</a>: No, but I am desperate for an invite. Do you have it and if so how is it. It looks amazing from the presentation video I saw on the web site. @spizzy: No, but I am desperate for an invite. Do you have it and if so how is it. It looks amazing from the presentation video I saw on the web site.

]]> By: Stephen http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/comment-page-3/#comment-86273 Stephen Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:40:10 +0000 http://redrants.com/?p=2242#comment-86273 @<a href="#comment-86263" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: Who will finish above us mate? Liverpool have to be pretty much faultless now until the end of the season due to their defeats so for me they will not win the title, Arsenal do not have the squad to compete and are not good enough, Chelsea will push us all the way but will loose Mikel, Essien, Drogba and Kalou in Jan and so far are not allowed to bring anyone else in and City who knows we will certainly be in the top two no doubt. @Grognard: Who will finish above us mate? Liverpool have to be pretty much faultless now until the end of the season due to their defeats so for me they will not win the title, Arsenal do not have the squad to compete and are not good enough, Chelsea will push us all the way but will loose Mikel, Essien, Drogba and Kalou in Jan and so far are not allowed to bring anyone else in and City who knows we will certainly be in the top two no doubt.

]]> By: New One http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/comment-page-3/#comment-86270 New One Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:51:11 +0000 http://redrants.com/?p=2242#comment-86270 Hello guys, this is my first post, though have been following for a while.Stephen Defour? Will this be yet another youngster who is wasted at this great club. Bolton this weekend? Not sure if we fancy playing against teams who press the ball and physical throughout the pitch, heading of the football seems to have died out at old trafford as compared to other grounds. Our central defenders are good at that aspect but if Sir Alex wants to play with width where is our old fashioned target man(Alan She...), a guy who can actually head the football, play football to accomodate your strikers or else strategy needs to be changed. Whats the point of crosses if no one is in the box and those who are cant head the football.Interesting don't you think? Hello guys, this is my first post, though have been following for a while.Stephen Defour? Will this be yet another youngster who is wasted at this great club.
Bolton this weekend? Not sure if we fancy playing against teams who press the ball and physical throughout the pitch, heading of the football seems to have died out at old trafford as compared to other grounds. Our central defenders are good at that aspect but if Sir Alex wants to play with width where is our old fashioned target man(Alan She…), a guy who can actually head the football, play football to accomodate your strikers or else strategy needs to be changed. Whats the point of crosses if no one is in the box and those who are cant head the football.Interesting don’t you think?

]]> By: RedTan http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/comment-page-3/#comment-86269 RedTan Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:27:17 +0000 http://redrants.com/?p=2242#comment-86269 @<a href="#comment-86263" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: just another point Grognard do you read beyond the first two lines of a post before you decide it is clever to try and shoot fellow posters down. Is this a mission for you to be seen as the biggest red of all time or some thing or is this early hour making me cynical? I am just asking before that angry voice in your head translates this as criticism, it is just a question @Grognard: just another point Grognard do you read beyond the first two lines of a post before you decide it is clever to try and shoot fellow posters down. Is this a mission for you to be seen as the biggest red of all time or some thing or is this early hour making me cynical? I am just asking before that angry voice in your head translates this as criticism, it is just a question

]]> By: RedTan http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/comment-page-3/#comment-86268 RedTan Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:21:01 +0000 http://redrants.com/?p=2242#comment-86268 @<a href="#comment-86263" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: Try reading some of me previous posts in the thread and then take a deep breath then read the thread above about cancer and gain some perspective. But if you want me to agree that we are a club in decline due to the fact that you can not stay at the top for ever BUT mainly due to the fact that uncle Malc is running the club in to the ground, then there you go. Unfortunately that is life and neither you or me can do a f*cking thing about it except continue to support what ever team is sent out to play (although even that is becoming hard the way I am being priced out of the club). The recent success has been fantastic and it was a joy to see the worlds greatest player at Old Trafford. If we did not have nearly £800 million of debt we would still have the greatest player at old trafford and probably the second or third greatest as well I have loved united since the early eighties so have seen the bad times and the good times and no doubt will see some bad times again. So again I say come on lads a big week ahead UNITED UNITED! @Grognard: Try reading some of me previous posts in the thread and then take a deep breath then read the thread above about cancer and gain some perspective.
But if you want me to agree that we are a club in decline due to the fact that you can not stay at the top for ever BUT mainly due to the fact that uncle Malc is running the club in to the ground, then there you go. Unfortunately that is life and neither you or me can do a f*cking thing about it except continue to support what ever team is sent out to play (although even that is becoming hard the way I am being priced out of the club). The recent success has been fantastic and it was a joy to see the worlds greatest player at Old Trafford. If we did not have nearly £800 million of debt we would still have the greatest player at old trafford and probably the second or third greatest as well
I have loved united since the early eighties so have seen the bad times and the good times and no doubt will see some bad times again. So again I say come on lads a big week ahead UNITED UNITED!

]]> By: Grognard http://redrants.com/on-ferguson-and-ref-rage/comment-page-3/#comment-86263 Grognard Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:19:51 +0000 http://redrants.com/?p=2242#comment-86263 @<a href="#comment-86257" rel="nofollow">RedTan</a>: Nero fiddled while Rome burned too mate. If you cannot see the cracks in the foundation, there's nothing I or anyone else can say to convince you. Everything you brought up are past accomplishments. More importantly, they were accomplishments while we still employed the best player on the planet. So spare me the sarcasm and glass half full mentality because I for one do not buy it. This club is great and has a great history but we can not sit back and just watch it slowly deteriorate because our manager has decided to alter the way he has done things for twenty years and with the Glazer's taking all the Ronaldo money and pocketing it without putting it back into player purchases. What you need is more time and more evidence that things are in fact starting to come apart at the seams. Lets wait and see how long this club can go on stealing points with luck and playing above it's talent base. I seriously doubt this club has the ability to finish any higher than third. But lets wait and see. @RedTan: Nero fiddled while Rome burned too mate. If you cannot see the cracks in the foundation, there’s nothing I or anyone else can say to convince you. Everything you brought up are past accomplishments. More importantly, they were accomplishments while we still employed the best player on the planet. So spare me the sarcasm and glass half full mentality because I for one do not buy it. This club is great and has a great history but we can not sit back and just watch it slowly deteriorate because our manager has decided to alter the way he has done things for twenty years and with the Glazer’s taking all the Ronaldo money and pocketing it without putting it back into player purchases. What you need is more time and more evidence that things are in fact starting to come apart at the seams. Lets wait and see how long this club can go on stealing points with luck and playing above it’s talent base. I seriously doubt this club has the ability to finish any higher than third. But lets wait and see.

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