Mar 17
On Vidic’s red card
This is not going to be about Saturday’s game, per se. I won’t dwell on the performance beyond what I’ve already written about yesterday. But I forgot to touch on one aspect that stuck out for me. I can’t help but shake the sense of confusion that’s descended, and hence, consider this to be a question posed to you to clear my head.
Exhibit A:
John Terry was sent off against Man City for serious foul play on Jo. Terry argued that Carvalho was the last man of defence. Mark Halsey, the referee, was having none of it and sent him off on grounds of foul play, instead of a professional foul. Those who have seen that video will no doubt know there was only malicious intent in that rugby tackle. However, Terry’s red card was rescinded by Keith Hackett who also gets his ban revoked.
Exhibit B:
Steven Gerrard was surging towards goal. Vidic brings him down. Ferdinand was the last line of defence and Alan Wiley sends Vidic off for serious foul play. Vidic gets a two match ban.
Someone kindly explain in what way the above two cases differ. I am honestly confused.
1. Scott has been equally critical about the decision making of the FA.
2. Blog United reckons it wasn’t even a foul in the first place, and backs his case with stills — I’m not entirely sure about that though.
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When I read about that I was left bemused. The FA did mentioned something about Vidic’s previous red card playing part in that decision. Still absurd as he’s already served the ban for his first red so why discipline him twice for, essentially, the same card.
The decision wouldn’t have been the same, for both players, anyway as the FA don’t know their own rules. Hense the regular inconsistencies.
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@Annie: But Terry was also red carded against Everton in December. So that doesn’t make sense to me.
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dunno mate – I asked the same question on Redcafe but they were all too busy being the biggest Red and mourning a result that won’t affect the title.
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What’s there to discuss, we all know there is injustice and unfairness within the FA. We get screwed all the time, so we should be used to it by now. I’m just glad it wasn’t three games. Either way, he deserved a red card for his foul regardless of what Terry did. That is out of our control. Perhaps someone should contact the FA and ask them directly or pose the same question to the media to answer or get an answer.
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@Grognard: It was a thought I missed yesterday and wanted to throw it out there. If there is a case of inconsistency involving United I see with the FA, I feel I must bring it out. Believe it or not, blogs are read by the media men. So if this issue gets overlooked by the main stream media, it’s necessary the bloggers do their bit to post it in the main articles. So whilst there isn’t much to discuss here, I will regardless put stuff like this up.
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maybe we’re not too worried about it because we have such a good player in Evans to cover. But the question needs to be asked. What is the difference between what Vidic did and Terry did? But don’t hold yer breath for the media to ask it and certainly not the FA
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@Annie: You add an extra match on to a ban for every previous red card you have received in that season. The rule is not to punish a player twice for the same offence but to provide additional reprimand for poor discipline over the course of the season. So a player who receives a red card for serious foul play would receive a 5 match ban if he had picked up two red cards previously that season. Previous red cards play no part in determining whether to administer a ban, just its eventual severity.
@Red Rupert: Yes completely unlike the reaction on here
@Red Ranter: It is a bit of a myth that you need to be last man to be sent off for a foul. The rulebook merits a red where the referee deems a clear goal scoring opportunity has been denied. Ferdinand may have been the last line but was well away from the action and Gerrard has a free run on goal. Terry’s offence never merited a red card for denial of a clear goal scoring opportunity because there were covering defenders in close attendance with Jo, between him and goal. Therefore the referee could only justify his red card under the auspices of foul play.
You can argue the merits of the FA’s decision to rescind the card based on it not being serious enough to merit a red, but it is not a comparable situation to Vidic. Ours was a red card and we can have no complaints.
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@JB: Did not know that…I fail.
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Technically, Gerrad was moving away from goal ,while the so called foul happened. foul or not it should not have been a red coz Gerrad was moving not towards the goal and away from it therefore no clear cut chance of goal opportunity.
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I’m more interested in the fact that the Liverpool captain’s badge kissing goes unpunished when our captain got punished for his.
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JB: maybe cos I’m just not worried about the title going anywhere else.
Not quite so confident about the CL though, but then again, no reason why not. We’ve got an excellent unbeaten record in the CL and depending on the draw…..??????????
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Isn’t it good? Vidic gets a well deserved two match rest. I am not complaining.
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I hope United face Liverpool in the Champions League, so we can take revenge and give them a good thrashing!
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