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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/possebon-loan-cancelled-returns-to-united/comment-page-11/#comment-81010</link>
		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80985&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;spizzy&lt;/a&gt;: I don&#039;t think it&#039;s baseless at all.  I left room for 21 other clubs to qualify not including the host nation which automatically does.  That&#039;s room for many many more teams from the rest of the world.  So as I see it, I am respecting history, tradition and openings the door wide also for new teams and change as well. 

It&#039;s not a question of resting on your laurels.  I do see your point there, but these teams are historically great and produce a large amount of great players into the world game.  It&#039;s important for the World Cup to showcase these players for the build up of their brand and marketing the game and it&#039;s beauty and excellence to the whole world.  Many of the smaller teams come to these tournaments and play defensive team oriented football that is very boring to the purists and to those who love to see lots of goals and individual skills on display, they are nothing more than anti-football.  

Take Greece for example.  In 2004 they pulled off one of the great miracles in sports history.  It was great for their country, their football program and the game but the fact is, they played dull and pedestrian football.  They basically set up ten men behind the ball and defended for 90 minutes and scored their odd goal from set pieces.  Congrats to them but it was not a showcase for the game.  Brazil, Argentina are showcases for the game.  Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Cruyff, Messi and Ronaldo are showcases for the game, not Zakorakis, or Basinas or countless other no names on a hard working but boring team who win ugly and send the game into the Middle Ages from a tactical and entertainment point of view.  And the only ones who would disagree with me there are Greeks and other minnow nations who play a similar style of football.  The game is about entertainment and scoring goals, not building fortresses and defending for dear life.

The game needs to maintain it&#039;s entertainment value and beauty and those seeded teams guarantee that it keeps that.  If one or two of those teams really go into the tank form wise for more than five or ten years, then like Uruguay (a two time winner), they get moved out of a sure seeding position.  The seedings are not set in stone  They are there for the existing eight but can be modified over decades to include new teams and exclude others that have fallen on prolonged hard times.  But what this system does is maintain a certain quality, class and expectation for both fans of the game as well as purists who love history, tradition and above all, talent based football.  I believe in the beautiful game, not the drudgery that 95% of the national teams in the world serve on a yearly basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-80985" rel="nofollow">spizzy</a>: I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s baseless at all.  I left room for 21 other clubs to qualify not including the host nation which automatically does.  That&#8217;s room for many many more teams from the rest of the world.  So as I see it, I am respecting history, tradition and openings the door wide also for new teams and change as well. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a question of resting on your laurels.  I do see your point there, but these teams are historically great and produce a large amount of great players into the world game.  It&#8217;s important for the World Cup to showcase these players for the build up of their brand and marketing the game and it&#8217;s beauty and excellence to the whole world.  Many of the smaller teams come to these tournaments and play defensive team oriented football that is very boring to the purists and to those who love to see lots of goals and individual skills on display, they are nothing more than anti-football.  </p>
<p>Take Greece for example.  In 2004 they pulled off one of the great miracles in sports history.  It was great for their country, their football program and the game but the fact is, they played dull and pedestrian football.  They basically set up ten men behind the ball and defended for 90 minutes and scored their odd goal from set pieces.  Congrats to them but it was not a showcase for the game.  Brazil, Argentina are showcases for the game.  Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Cruyff, Messi and Ronaldo are showcases for the game, not Zakorakis, or Basinas or countless other no names on a hard working but boring team who win ugly and send the game into the Middle Ages from a tactical and entertainment point of view.  And the only ones who would disagree with me there are Greeks and other minnow nations who play a similar style of football.  The game is about entertainment and scoring goals, not building fortresses and defending for dear life.</p>
<p>The game needs to maintain it&#8217;s entertainment value and beauty and those seeded teams guarantee that it keeps that.  If one or two of those teams really go into the tank form wise for more than five or ten years, then like Uruguay (a two time winner), they get moved out of a sure seeding position.  The seedings are not set in stone  They are there for the existing eight but can be modified over decades to include new teams and exclude others that have fallen on prolonged hard times.  But what this system does is maintain a certain quality, class and expectation for both fans of the game as well as purists who love history, tradition and above all, talent based football.  I believe in the beautiful game, not the drudgery that 95% of the national teams in the world serve on a yearly basis.</p>
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		<title>By: cam</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/possebon-loan-cancelled-returns-to-united/comment-page-11/#comment-81006</link>
		<dc:creator>cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting back to the original thread headline many hundred posts ago, has the Possebon loan deal been cancelled and is he back in manchester? No or yes? Can someone please confirm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back to the original thread headline many hundred posts ago, has the Possebon loan deal been cancelled and is he back in manchester? No or yes? Can someone please confirm?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/possebon-loan-cancelled-returns-to-united/comment-page-11/#comment-80993</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80985&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;spizzy&lt;/a&gt;: That is a superb point, the World cup is not elitist, which was something I was getting at and was wrong about, it is a cultural coming together of various nations and people which has to be a good thing.
Also if you can&#039;t qualify for the competion then you have no right to be in it, simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-80985" rel="nofollow">spizzy</a>: That is a superb point, the World cup is not elitist, which was something I was getting at and was wrong about, it is a cultural coming together of various nations and people which has to be a good thing.<br />
Also if you can&#8217;t qualify for the competion then you have no right to be in it, simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/possebon-loan-cancelled-returns-to-united/comment-page-11/#comment-80989</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boo bloody hoo! Fact is, the american system is only america for a reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boo bloody hoo! Fact is, the american system is only america for a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Merlinus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merlinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE :shock: ... And RR, how loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong can a thread be???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE <img src='http://redrants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230; And RR, how loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong can a thread be???</p>
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		<title>By: spizzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>spizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RR, step in please, things are getting out of hand.</description>
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		<title>By: spizzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>spizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80964&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Grognard&lt;/a&gt;: Your whole argument on seeding teams for the world cup is baseless, why even call it the world cup,it should call itself the elite club and only your eight precious teams are allowed to participate. It could be football&#039;s version of the ashes, or the rider cup, a tournament where the participants are already known and no need for qualification.
Meanwhile let us keep our world cup, where new comers have a chance, and you are not guaranteed entry unless you host it, and you have to work your ass off to qualify meaning no resting on your laurels just because you won it twenty years ago, a tournament where you can expect the occasional upset, and where the favorites coming into the tournament rarely win it. Yes the world cup, a coming together of various nations, cultures and people, the greatest sporting event in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-80964" rel="nofollow">Grognard</a>: Your whole argument on seeding teams for the world cup is baseless, why even call it the world cup,it should call itself the elite club and only your eight precious teams are allowed to participate. It could be football&#8217;s version of the ashes, or the rider cup, a tournament where the participants are already known and no need for qualification.<br />
Meanwhile let us keep our world cup, where new comers have a chance, and you are not guaranteed entry unless you host it, and you have to work your ass off to qualify meaning no resting on your laurels just because you won it twenty years ago, a tournament where you can expect the occasional upset, and where the favorites coming into the tournament rarely win it. Yes the world cup, a coming together of various nations, cultures and people, the greatest sporting event in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80978&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Redrich&lt;/a&gt;: There is no cap on the amount of ignorance some show on the internet mate.  He&#039;s not worth the effort to educate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-80978" rel="nofollow">Redrich</a>: There is no cap on the amount of ignorance some show on the internet mate.  He&#8217;s not worth the effort to educate.</p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80972&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Traverse&lt;/a&gt;: No your antisocial.  :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-80972" rel="nofollow">Traverse</a>: No your antisocial.  <img src='http://redrants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-80965&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Traverse&lt;/a&gt;: Fuck you major asshole!  :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-80965" rel="nofollow">Traverse</a>: Fuck you major asshole!  <img src='http://redrants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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