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	<title>Comments on: Rio On MLS, CL Seeding, Torres and Darren Ferguson</title>
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		<title>By: BootifullGame</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/comment-page-1/#comment-906</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely about Shearer. That was lack of ambition for me.
Torres is different. He&#039;s still very young, he has spent acouple of years making a concerted effort to achieve something with Athletico. THis hasnt happened, and if you listen to reports from Spain, it appears that he does want out and is prepared to force his way out. So it appears he has decided he wants to win medals and titles. Jesus Gill was responsible for much of Athletico&#039;s problems, which are still being overcome today. To pick out Torres as unambitious is an easy option. They have a new manager almost every year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely about Shearer. That was lack of ambition for me.<br />
Torres is different. He&#8217;s still very young, he has spent acouple of years making a concerted effort to achieve something with Athletico. THis hasnt happened, and if you listen to reports from Spain, it appears that he does want out and is prepared to force his way out. So it appears he has decided he wants to win medals and titles. Jesus Gill was responsible for much of Athletico&#8217;s problems, which are still being overcome today. To pick out Torres as unambitious is an easy option. They have a new manager almost every year.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Ranter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, he&#039;s tried to help them out since he was 17. (okay, make that 19 since he was captain since then). I know Atletico is a big club and has good tradition/history. In fact it was the original Madrid club, before Real. Before General Franco made Real the biggest club in Spain.

But my point is, while his loyalty is commendable, he&#039;s been at the club for quite sometime without the club showing any kind of an improvement. Again I am not questioning the club&#039;s ambitions too. They bought Aguero last season. But every year they manage to mess up even with a decent side. Put it down to poor management or whatever. 

What I am trying to say is that if Torres wants to win trophies (something all players want to), Atletico seems to be the wrong kind of club. Of course, he could stay on at the club of his love till he retires and do a Shearer. But I wonder how many Prem titles Shearer won as a Newcastle player. (Yes he doesn&#039;t regret it till date. But that&#039;s his loyalty/low ambition depending on how you see it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he&#8217;s tried to help them out since he was 17. (okay, make that 19 since he was captain since then). I know Atletico is a big club and has good tradition/history. In fact it was the original Madrid club, before Real. Before General Franco made Real the biggest club in Spain.</p>
<p>But my point is, while his loyalty is commendable, he&#8217;s been at the club for quite sometime without the club showing any kind of an improvement. Again I am not questioning the club&#8217;s ambitions too. They bought Aguero last season. But every year they manage to mess up even with a decent side. Put it down to poor management or whatever. </p>
<p>What I am trying to say is that if Torres wants to win trophies (something all players want to), Atletico seems to be the wrong kind of club. Of course, he could stay on at the club of his love till he retires and do a Shearer. But I wonder how many Prem titles Shearer won as a Newcastle player. (Yes he doesn&#8217;t regret it till date. But that&#8217;s his loyalty/low ambition depending on how you see it)</p>
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