Comments on: Rio On MLS, CL Seeding, Torres and Darren Ferguson http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/ Manchester United Blog Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:44:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: BootifullGame http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/comment-page-1/#comment-906 BootifullGame Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:14:00 +0000 http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/#comment-906 I agree completely about Shearer. That was lack of ambition for me. Torres is different. He's still very young, he has spent acouple of years making a concerted effort to achieve something with Athletico. THis hasnt happened, and if you listen to reports from Spain, it appears that he does want out and is prepared to force his way out. So it appears he has decided he wants to win medals and titles. Jesus Gill was responsible for much of Athletico's problems, which are still being overcome today. To pick out Torres as unambitious is an easy option. They have a new manager almost every year. I agree completely about Shearer. That was lack of ambition for me.
Torres is different. He’s still very young, he has spent acouple of years making a concerted effort to achieve something with Athletico. THis hasnt happened, and if you listen to reports from Spain, it appears that he does want out and is prepared to force his way out. So it appears he has decided he wants to win medals and titles. Jesus Gill was responsible for much of Athletico’s problems, which are still being overcome today. To pick out Torres as unambitious is an easy option. They have a new manager almost every year.

]]> By: Red Ranter http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/comment-page-1/#comment-879 Red Ranter Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:09:56 +0000 http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/#comment-879 Well, he's tried to help them out since he was 17. (okay, make that 19 since he was captain since then). I know Atletico is a big club and has good tradition/history. In fact it was the original Madrid club, before Real. Before General Franco made Real the biggest club in Spain. But my point is, while his loyalty is commendable, he's been at the club for quite sometime without the club showing any kind of an improvement. Again I am not questioning the club's ambitions too. They bought Aguero last season. But every year they manage to mess up even with a decent side. Put it down to poor management or whatever. What I am trying to say is that if Torres wants to win trophies (something all players want to), Atletico seems to be the wrong kind of club. Of course, he could stay on at the club of his love till he retires and do a Shearer. But I wonder how many Prem titles Shearer won as a Newcastle player. (Yes he doesn't regret it till date. But that's his loyalty/low ambition depending on how you see it) Well, he’s tried to help them out since he was 17. (okay, make that 19 since he was captain since then). I know Atletico is a big club and has good tradition/history. In fact it was the original Madrid club, before Real. Before General Franco made Real the biggest club in Spain.

But my point is, while his loyalty is commendable, he’s been at the club for quite sometime without the club showing any kind of an improvement. Again I am not questioning the club’s ambitions too. They bought Aguero last season. But every year they manage to mess up even with a decent side. Put it down to poor management or whatever.

What I am trying to say is that if Torres wants to win trophies (something all players want to), Atletico seems to be the wrong kind of club. Of course, he could stay on at the club of his love till he retires and do a Shearer. But I wonder how many Prem titles Shearer won as a Newcastle player. (Yes he doesn’t regret it till date. But that’s his loyalty/low ambition depending on how you see it)

]]> By: BootifullGame http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/comment-page-1/#comment-863 BootifullGame Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:12:23 +0000 http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/#comment-863 Torres has ben linked with us for "bloody donkeys years", i remember when he was 17, he was meant to be being lined up for a move to United. But you cant knock him for being committed to his birth club. Lets be honest Athletico have spent huge amounts of money lately that just hasn't translated onto the field. They are a big club with a big history, cant blame the boy for wanting to write his own name in that history. His buyout is as you say 40mil Euros, and apparently Athletico wont budge on that figure (£27mil). Guillem Balague is convinced Torres wants out though, and has said he will probably try and force his way out. Whether he is successful or not and where he ends up are both far from clear. Come one Fergie, did deep. Torres has ben linked with us for “bloody donkeys years”, i remember when he was 17, he was meant to be being lined up for a move to United. But you cant knock him for being committed to his birth club. Lets be honest Athletico have spent huge amounts of money lately that just hasn’t translated onto the field. They are a big club with a big history, cant blame the boy for wanting to write his own name in that history.
His buyout is as you say 40mil Euros, and apparently Athletico wont budge on that figure (£27mil).
Guillem Balague is convinced Torres wants out though, and has said he will probably try and force his way out. Whether he is successful or not and where he ends up are both far from clear.
Come one Fergie, did deep.

]]> By: Ahmed Bilal http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/comment-page-1/#comment-862 Ahmed Bilal Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:05:34 +0000 http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/#comment-862 'bloody donkey years' ? explain that one, when you get the time :) Funny story today - Quagliarella's agent says that United haven't spoken to him or his player or with Sampdoria. This after the striker was quoted last week as saying that United were in with a 10m bid. Agent feeding the player BS? ‘bloody donkey years’ ? explain that one, when you get the time :)

Funny story today – Quagliarella’s agent says that United haven’t spoken to him or his player or with Sampdoria. This after the striker was quoted last week as saying that United were in with a 10m bid.

Agent feeding the player BS?

]]> By: sagarhshah http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/comment-page-1/#comment-860 sagarhshah Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:36:25 +0000 http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/#comment-860 <blockquote cite="then one has to wonder what sort of ambition a player like Torres has. Something has got to give and most likely, he should be playing at a bigger club next season."> I wouldn't knock him down for it and question his ambition. maybe torres ambition is to try and make his home town club successful. in my opinion its actually quite admirable that a player would want to stay at the club where he came through and not run away to a big club in search of the big bucks and glory. the days of player loyalty are almost gone. don't knock the players who are still loyal to their teams as they are very few of them remaining, a dying species if one wants to put it that way.

I wouldn’t knock him down for it and question his ambition.
maybe torres ambition is to try and make his home town club successful.
in my opinion its actually quite admirable that a player would want to stay at the club where he came through and not run away to a big club in search of the big bucks and glory.

the days of player loyalty are almost gone.

don’t knock the players who are still loyal to their teams as they are very few of them remaining, a dying species if one wants to put it that way.

]]> By: sagar http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/comment-page-1/#comment-855 sagar Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:52:27 +0000 http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/#comment-855 maybe torres is the le tiss kind of player who doesnt want to move away from his hometown club coz he loves em too much. maybe torres is the le tiss kind of player who doesnt want to move away from his hometown club coz he loves em too much.

]]> By: Shaheen Seedat http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/comment-page-1/#comment-854 Shaheen Seedat Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:22:57 +0000 http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/#comment-854 Torres has been linked with us for bloody donkeys years. He's one thats always had plenty of potential but Im not sure if he has/will live up to the hype. I havent seen a lot of him. The games I have watched he has looked good. Good, but not great and Im not sure if he is worth the 24m. He is still relatively young though. Perhaps if we could have some opinions from la liga fans who have seen more of him. Torres has been linked with us for bloody donkeys years. He’s one thats always had plenty of potential but Im not sure if he has/will live up to the hype. I havent seen a lot of him. The games I have watched he has looked good. Good, but not great and Im not sure if he is worth the 24m. He is still relatively young though.

Perhaps if we could have some opinions from la liga fans who have seen more of him.

]]> By: conor http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/comment-page-1/#comment-852 conor Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:17:10 +0000 http://redrants.com/rio-on-mls-cl-seeding-torres-and-darren-ferguson/#comment-852 The reason he was valued at 40m could be for 2 reasons, he signed a new contract just last season, or you misheard someone talking about his current release clause, which is 40m EUROS. The reason he was valued at 40m could be for 2 reasons, he signed a new contract just last season, or you misheard someone talking about his current release clause, which is 40m EUROS.

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