Comments on: Rooney Proposes, Barca Stalks, Fletch Loved. http://redrants.com/roundup-for-thursday/ Manchester United Blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:16:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Grognard http://redrants.com/roundup-for-thursday/comment-page-1/#comment-11236 Grognard Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:52:56 +0000 http://redrants.com/roundup-for-thursday-dont-post-this-ahmed/#comment-11236 Yes I agree about Germany since 1998 actually. They went into a negative and downward tailspin due to a drying up of talent and tactics designed to work with lesser talent. And yet how great are they? They still made the final of the 2002 World Cup where I feel they outplayed Brazil and were unlucky to not win. A few goalposts and the poor game by Kahn cost them. They still had natural goal scorers in Ballack and Klose. The Bundesliga has suffered the most. When I was a teen my greatest exposure to football was a one hour tv show called "Soccer Made In Germany" They would show the game of the week and condense it into an hour. For ten years I watched the greats of the Bundesliga play the game the way it should be played. Bayern with Beckenbauer, Muller, Rummenigge, Breitner, Maier and Hoeness, Cologne with Dieter Muller, Flohe and Schumacher, Hamburg with Kevin Keegan, the Monster Hrubesch, Magath, Kaltz and Moenchengladbach with Vogts, a young Matthaus, Heynckes and the great little Dane Simonsen. And the list goes on with fantastic players. Even the poor teams had a player or two that could play very well. The league had quality defenders but the style was open and attack was promoted. Quite often the poor teams were very tough to beat in their park and they could occasionally shock a titan. Minnows back in that league and era, were capable of more and showed a lot more courage to attack. All teams back then played 4-3-3 and some played 4-4-2 but the 4-3-3 was to be compared with todays version. Back then 4-3-3 meant two central strikers charged to score goals and a winger who's jon it was to create width and get in crosses. Many teams had scoring midfielders and many defenders were very attack minded with Beckenbauer being the King. It's too bad that along the way something happened to the game world wide and that kind of entertaining soccer was replaced by the brand most teams play today. Lets thank Italy for all the crap that is soccer today. Klinsmann created a Renaissance in German football not just by tactics and formations, but by team attitude, diet and team traing methods. Once again they are the team to beat and I for one think they will win EURO 08. Yes I agree about Germany since 1998 actually. They went into a negative and downward tailspin due to a drying up of talent and tactics designed to work with lesser talent. And yet how great are they? They still made the final of the 2002 World Cup where I feel they outplayed Brazil and were unlucky to not win. A few goalposts and the poor game by Kahn cost them. They still had natural goal scorers in Ballack and Klose.

The Bundesliga has suffered the most. When I was a teen my greatest exposure to football was a one hour tv show called “Soccer Made In Germany” They would show the game of the week and condense it into an hour. For ten years I watched the greats of the Bundesliga play the game the way it should be played. Bayern with Beckenbauer, Muller, Rummenigge, Breitner, Maier and Hoeness, Cologne with Dieter Muller, Flohe and Schumacher, Hamburg with Kevin Keegan, the Monster Hrubesch, Magath, Kaltz and Moenchengladbach with Vogts, a young Matthaus, Heynckes and the great little Dane Simonsen. And the list goes on with fantastic players. Even the poor teams had a player or two that could play very well.

The league had quality defenders but the style was open and attack was promoted. Quite often the poor teams were very tough to beat in their park and they could occasionally shock a titan. Minnows back in that league and era, were capable of more and showed a lot more courage to attack. All teams back then played 4-3-3 and some played 4-4-2 but the 4-3-3 was to be compared with todays version. Back then 4-3-3 meant two central strikers charged to score goals and a winger who’s jon it was to create width and get in crosses. Many teams had scoring midfielders and many defenders were very attack minded with Beckenbauer being the King.

It’s too bad that along the way something happened to the game world wide and that kind of entertaining soccer was replaced by the brand most teams play today. Lets thank Italy for all the crap that is soccer today. Klinsmann created a Renaissance in German football not just by tactics and formations, but by team attitude, diet and team traing methods. Once again they are the team to beat and I for one think they will win EURO 08.

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]]> By: jos http://redrants.com/roundup-for-thursday/comment-page-1/#comment-11223 jos Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:45:29 +0000 http://redrants.com/roundup-for-thursday-dont-post-this-ahmed/#comment-11223 Grogs, ok that might be the past but i wasnt really born in that era! I havent really heard of most of the players (except beckenbaur who is such a legend but was a defensive mid & Muller who I accept was one of the greatest strikers ever - based purely from what I've of him) I have started following football from 1994 onwards (seriously from 2002 when I first landed in Europe) and have been a fan since. Probably thats why I am a man utd fan coz they were THE top side at that time (though not in europe but I liked RVN and so started following utd and have been a red devil even though RvN has left!) In last 10 yrs or so I havent seen much to talk about from Germany. I followed WC'02 & Euro04 and both times germany were not so attaking (only were somewhat good in WC06). Germany today are known as a clinical, professional side rather than attractive side! If we talk of bygone era, yes scores like 5-3 or 7-4 were common those days but I guess that is over now! Now teams are too defensive (not that they were not so earlier.. maybe the rules have something to say about that) Utd are prob the most (or one of the most) attacking teams I have seen. My all time fav national team happens to be the mighty hungary team of 50s that had Puskas and kocsis. Again I've just read about them and have formed an opinion about them (I prob dont like german footy so much as they so unfairly beat hungary in 54 WC) but thats ok. bygones are bygones and todays reality is the most attacking teams in europe are cezh and holland (in my opinion). eng are one of the negative teams alongside greece, italy and germany. portugal are somewhat ok. Grogs,
ok that might be the past but i wasnt really born in that era! I havent really heard of most of the players (except beckenbaur who is such a legend but was a defensive mid & Muller who I accept was one of the greatest strikers ever – based purely from what I’ve of him) I have started following football from 1994 onwards (seriously from 2002 when I first landed in Europe) and have been a fan since. Probably thats why I am a man utd fan coz they were THE top side at that time (though not in europe but I liked RVN and so started following utd and have been a red devil even though RvN has left!) In last 10 yrs or so I havent seen much to talk about from Germany. I followed WC’02 & Euro04 and both times germany were not so attaking (only were somewhat good in WC06). Germany today are known as a clinical, professional side rather than attractive side!
If we talk of bygone era, yes scores like 5-3 or 7-4 were common those days but I guess that is over now! Now teams are too defensive (not that they were not so earlier.. maybe the rules have something to say about that) Utd are prob the most (or one of the most) attacking teams I have seen. My all time fav national team happens to be the mighty hungary team of 50s that had Puskas and kocsis. Again I’ve just read about them and have formed an opinion about them (I prob dont like german footy so much as they so unfairly beat hungary in 54 WC) but thats ok. bygones are bygones and todays reality is the most attacking teams in europe are cezh and holland (in my opinion). eng are one of the negative teams alongside greece, italy and germany. portugal are somewhat ok.

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