Jul 21
Roy Keane sings a song for Ronaldo
Keano sings the Ronaldo song, from the Ian Dempsey breakfast show podcast.
Click here for direct link or click here to stream.
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Tags: Fun/Off the Record
July 21st, 2009 at 1:22
RONALDOOOO! oh oh oh RONALDOOOO!!! funny stuff
July 21st, 2009 at 1:29
Absolutely hilarious, mate.
I guess it’s goodbye, and fuck off to CR9!
July 21st, 2009 at 1:37
Funny song.
But on another note, I personally am not saying ‘fuck off’ to Ronaldo
he has left, we knew he was going to RM one day, he gave the club excellent service, we made 68 million pound profit on him and he has gone to a club who i don’t see as a rival, though maybe in terms of marketing.
Tevez on the other hand can fuck right off.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:43
@STRETFORD_END_ST_HOLDER: Yes, Tevez can fuck off. I feel embarrassed that our fans chanted his name, even drowned Fergie’s speech and booed the manager who was here for almost as long as I have been alive.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:50
RE:Red Ranter,
What I hate about Tevez was usually with a player, if they think they are going, they say they want to stay etc ala Ruud, Ronaldo, Henry, Vieira etc to avoid disruption in the season. If thats the route tevez wanted to go down, fine. but his reasons for lying were baffling because he ran to the press to have a good moan at every chance which showed he didn’t care about disruption. He told us all if he just got offered a contract he would sign it, and he played the fans of against saf as a result. Our 18th title winning day will always be remembered for the fans drowning out fergie’s speech for him and booing him. yet when he got what he wanted, he turned it down and worst of all crossed the divide in manchester. he is a judas and i can’t wait for the 20th september when he gets an awful reception
July 21st, 2009 at 1:52
@STRETFORD_END_ST_HOLDER: I agree with you completely.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:59
@STRETFORD_END_ST_HOLDER: does anyone really no who is to blame in the tevez saga? i know he turned down a contract offerfrom us and went to city which is sick and unacceptable behaviour, howver also rember it takes two to tango and the way fergie treated him last year was not at all fair! tevez wasnt picked for crucial matches and was continueously overlooked for berbatov, this obvisoly made tevez feel unwantedm and this after he had a good first season and developed a good partnership with rooney. Maybe tevez for all the love he felt he had to offer and the way he has had it shoved back at him thought going to city was the only way he could really hurt fergie.
im just theoretically speaking
July 21st, 2009 at 2:03
@STRETFORD_END_ST_HOLDER: You should be saving your spit mate!! By September 20th, you could really “rain” on his parade!!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:03
off topic, did we pay 2 mil for that diouf kid
and roughly how much did we sell manucho for, 4mil?
July 21st, 2009 at 2:09
@jamie lee: The 11th hour offer to him was just a bone tossed to the Tevez faithful! We had no intention of signing him, and thank god for that!!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:17
@Redrich: well im happy about owen as his replacement, however berba still has alot to answer for
July 21st, 2009 at 2:34
Well I left home just a week before
and I’d never ever kissed a woman before
but Lola smiled and took me by the hand
and said dear boy, gonna make you a man
Well I’m not the worlds most masculine man
but I know what I am and I’m glad I’m a man
and so is Lola!!!
Looovve the Kinks!!!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:41
@NicoQB: Love ‘em too Nico, but that’s a pretty gay lyric!!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:49
@Redrich:
It is!!!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:57
@jamie lee: Well, he’s still got a lot to prove.
In my heart, I hope he turns the corner and proves people like me wrong. But in my head, I see a guy that is out of his league, and is doing the best to hang on.
Lets just hope I’m wrong!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:59
@NicoQB: Yup! Love the Kinks too, but didn’t pay too much attention to the lyrics. But it’s deffo pretty gay.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:06
@Redrich: does no-one get the lyrics from the kinks are about an unfortunate encounter with a transvestite… fuck it… if they put the ball in the back of the net i’d be happy either way.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:17
@Will Each to their own mate! But if you left home just a week ago, and had never kissed a woman before , and met a man named Lola,…. I’d say it’s kind of gay! Not wrong, but a little bit gay!!
July 21st, 2009 at 4:24
@Will: And further more, that song, Lola, and others that followed, made the idea of being gay, OK!!
OK!
July 21st, 2009 at 4:32
@Redrich: In case you haven’t realized, that’s a pretty gay song (Lola’s actually a guy…).
July 21st, 2009 at 4:34
On another note, I had no clue that people listened to The Kinks – I was quite sure that I was one of the few who knew about them (on account of never hearing them on the radio and nobody I know knowing who the hell they are).
July 21st, 2009 at 4:50
@Andrei: You’re fucking kidding mate. I used to watch them down the local when I was a young whipper-snapper like you.
Best live band (next to The Who) that there was!!
July 21st, 2009 at 4:54
Common guys think about it, what is a kink otherwise better known as?.
Its another word for bend or bent, would you bend for a friend?.
Not my cuppa tea hey!
July 21st, 2009 at 5:05
@Redrich: To bad they were banned from the performing in the states – I think that with a wider fanbase they could have been like a Manchester United of music.
Anyway I love them and Waterloo Sunset makes me shiver (almost)
July 21st, 2009 at 5:14
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1200994/Manchester-United-boss-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-speaks-Tevez-Ronaldo-Owen-rivals-City.html
This was posted by someone on the last redrant post, but im just posting it again in case anyone missed it. Its a really informative interview with SAF.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:41
@johnsom33: Thanks for posting that interview. It is very enlightening… Very nice read. I could barely look at Ronaldo in white, it is like the second time I’ve seen him like that. Interesting to hear that he didn’t do so well vs. Shamrock.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:49
To all the Commentators (little off topic but imp. i feel):
Check this link on daily mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1201036/Sulaiman-Al-Fahim-complete-Portsmouth-takeover-save-club-administration.html
I have already raised this thing in past. Dr. Al Fahim led consortium has completed the takeover of Pompey. I have serious question about this. If, my memory serves me right then he is same person who’s consortium took over Citeh last term.
Don’t you all think it can be case of ‘Conflict of Interest’. Out of 20 teams participating the In the Competition in PL 2 are owned by same person.
I mean how can one vouch on the results by team involved.
Just as hypothetically put example…..
If Citeh need to win on the last day to make sure there qualification for next years CL and they are playing against Pompey. And obviously Citeh won, then who can guarantee that the outcome of the Fair is True and Fair….
I mean for me its a cause of Concern…
July 21st, 2009 at 5:51
@Onkar: There was an extensive fit and proper test that was undertaken by the premier league to ascertain any conflict of interest whatsoever. It took about a month to go through because the Premier League learned from their experience with Thaksin Shinawatra. So I’d imagine they went through all the formalities before letting Fahim takeover.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:57
@Red Ranter:
See, my point is simple Bro… I will put it otherway around, that Pompey v/s Citeh last match of the season. Pompey needing a win by say 2 goals to survive and they just do that and survive….
Then, in such situation can anyone vouch for the result and say that it was true and fair….. Or should I say directly which i was not wanting to that it was not decided (fixed) in the boardroom (as its owned effectively by same person)???
To be honest, I won’t be the person who will ever believe that or vouch on it…
July 21st, 2009 at 5:58
@Red Ranter:
And this is what I meant to say with the ‘Conflict of Interest’…
July 21st, 2009 at 6:04
@Onkar: I know what a conflict of interest means mate. Fahim brokered the City deal, but was fired from Man City. He was an agent then and a front man. Not the owner. The Pompey takeover however is a consortium led by him.
Now he may be chums with the owners of City, but friendship cannot be measured in business. Officially according to paperwork ones business may not be connected to the other. And in conflicts of interests only that can matter. Anything else is not enforceable on the part of the Premiership.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:20
@Red Ranter:
Great, thanks for the info mate… I thought he is the won who owned the club or he is the one who’s major shareholder in the consortium that too over Citeh….
But, he was the in Agent- Principal relationship then its perfectly fine.
Thanks for the info mate…
July 21st, 2009 at 6:25
Can’t wait to boo Tevez on Sept. 20th.
Only unfortunate thing is, I will be alone in my apartment in the middle of the US… at least my neighbors will hear it
July 21st, 2009 at 6:25
Hello everyone
Red Rants I think Onkar has discussed with you about me I am his younger brother and I am childhood Gunners fan. I have heard lot of things about this blog so I want to join this blog I am giving You assurance that I will give you a fair debating on this blog. i am expecting the same one from Your side that’s it.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:28
@Kedar: As long as you don’t get personal it’s alright. But as a rival fan, you can’t expect tolerance from some commenters and you have to bear with them. Although I don’t expect them to bear with you always. You are a minority, and you are going to be dealing with plenty of bias. So fairness cannot be guaranteed.
Just warning you so you know what you are getting yourself into.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:38
@Red Ranter: But anyone going against me on me personal at personal level then I will complaint you about that man is this right?
July 21st, 2009 at 6:57
@Kedar: could be worse things than a gooner on here, ala a scouse $#NT…
so welcome mate,
how do the arsenal fans look at the ade to city move?
July 21st, 2009 at 7:06
@Kedar: think I made the part about not getting personal fairly clear. All I am saying is for you to debate, but if you begin to taunt fellow commenters on the club then you will get some criticism coming your way. However, your club may get taunted and you will have to bear with it. But it won’t work the other way round because this is a United blog.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:58
Ronaldo’s exit has been a very smooth transfer(wrt this summer) because of the words spoken by Fergie & Ronaldo.
Not trying to sound too emotional but looking at their interviews, sometimes Fergie sounds like a father who realized that his son wanted to move away from the family and try something new. And he hopes that the son returns back eventually.
July 21st, 2009 at 8:00
@[OPTI]Madschester United: 9:30 in the morning, your neighbors would think that you have gone mad
July 21st, 2009 at 8:03
@Onkar: Fahim helped Sheikh Zayed Al Nahyan in the purchase of Citeh. Now he has bought a club himself. Just a matter of two friends owning clubs playing in the same league.
July 21st, 2009 at 8:04
Seeing ROnaldo in a Madrid kit is kinda like seeing an ex girlfriend hugged up with her new flame. You are over the girl and you dont really think about her much, but when you actually see her again with someone else, apart of you gets jealous.
July 21st, 2009 at 8:24
@fuzzy: Thanks for enlightening my knowledge bro..
July 21st, 2009 at 8:52
Talking about conflicts of interest an Abu Dhabi TV company has won the TV rights for the Middle East. Anyone from that region have any views?
July 21st, 2009 at 9:22
@Onkar: Fahim is the same guy who made the statement about trying to get Ronaldo to City(for 134m pounds ?). They had to appoint a new chairman – Mubarak – to shut him up
Everybody believed that he would have a big hand behind City. They sidelined him pretty quickly.
July 21st, 2009 at 9:23
Not sure why we are not going for Eto’o ! He is probably the closest who can come to fill the gap created by Ronoldos presence and goals. If his salary needs can be sorted out, it will be a great signing for ManUtd. I also think i read somewhere he wants to come to United and is willing to compromise on his pay for that. Fergie can also take care of any attitude problems he might have. I am sure he will prefer us over Inter if we show we want him.
July 21st, 2009 at 9:30
@godzilla: Fergie wants to give Macheda a run next season and hopefully with Owen and Rooney playing up there and a return to form of Berba we shpuld be fine, we also have Welbeck so he believes we are well stocked in that area.
July 21st, 2009 at 9:31
@godzilla:
I think its money, he wants a 10m euro signing on fee plus 9m euro net wages per annum plus he is a mercenary plus he may miss 6 weeks of the season due to the African Nations Cup.
July 21st, 2009 at 9:32
Check this out:
http://www.courant.com/sports/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-soc-malaysia-soccer-stabbing,0,5627311.story
United effect i guess…
July 21st, 2009 at 9:49
@johnsom33: Or it could just be like seeing ronaldo in a real madrid jersey….
July 21st, 2009 at 9:49
Thoughts from yesterday:
GK – No idea, as Foster didn’t have a save to make. He does however seem to be a magnet for poor back passes, teammates didn’t help him out much! Oh and Kusczak made a couple very good stops, but that’s never been his problem. I’m fine with him as a back up though.
RB – Neville looked fine. Against Malaysia. Not a long term option. Where the hell is Rafael? O’Shea actually looked pretty good when he came on.
CB – Evans, Brown and Rio are all fine. And Rio is ridiculously elegant at times.
LB – Fabio has never played the full 90 for us. He shall now be known as the Balsa twin. Evra was very poor positionally, and treated the match like a friendly. He shouldn’t have.
CMF – Giggs is still looking younger. Baffles me. Scholes is great if you put him under no pressure. Not so much if you do. Also can’t shoot anymore. Fletcher was surprisingly good from the right, despite being played out of position. Gibson looks much better than this time last year. Anderson should have scored, I was out of my seat, but his curse remains.
Wings – Nani was the most dangerous player on the pitch when he came on. Great cross to Berba, and two to Rooney on the ground. Good tricks and very positive performance. Surely will be the starting left winger? Tosic was meh. Always went left, and the defender worked this out and neutralised him. Good delivery if given time, but he’ll never get that time.
CF – Macheda is a good finisher, but kind of cumbersome the rest of the time. At 17 he’s definitely going to improve though and he’s already big enough. Could be a good call from Fergie. Owen looked sharp as a tack, and his movement was superb, particularly in contrast to Kiko. He was always the first player to react to a situation, and almost scored a beauty that came back off the post, a real strikers goal. I’ve not seen him look this good for years, even if it was against Malaysia. Rooney was pissed off, and could have maimed some midfielder. Really, really uncalled for. No smile on his face = no good. Berba was pure silk as always, and didn’t score. As always.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:45
RE: Jamie-Lee
Traitor Tevez not playing in the big games was just something him and his PR team tried to spin us.
If we look at the facts he played in the Fa cup semi final, champions league semi first leg, both matches against the dippers, the home match against Arsenal, played a whole half in the CL final, carling cup final etc. So he got his fair share and in those that I mentioned, Berbatov (who I think needs to improve this season by the way) didn’t play but you didn’t see him moaning. I actually wouldn’t mind if Tevez did want to go. This is a club, many players come and go and I am fine with that unless they go to either Liverpool or City which Tevez has done. He also pretended that it was just a case of signing a contract, and he hadn’t been offered one, hence playing off the fans and SAF in the process. There must have come a point where he knew he didn’t want to stay but did he say anything? did he do anything to stop the thousands of fans (including me) singing ’sign him up’ when he knew it wasn’t going to happen because he wanted to leave. No because he loved playing of the fans and SAF and his ego loved it. And if that wasn’t bad enough, he rejected offers from abroad from Madrid and Inter, and went to bloody City! Judas idiot.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:55
@STRETFORD_END_ST_HOLDER: I totally agree, I fell into the “Fergie, Fergie sign him up” trap I will say I did not drown out Fergie speech.
For me Tevez has wanted to leave since at least Xmas as Citeh had offered him a stupid contract, Ok this is just me speculating for he has tried to lower the impact of his departure so the fans will not have a pop at him, it has not worked I am glad to say.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:15
@STRETFORD_END_ST_HOLDER: Tevez is deluded thinking that the fans still like him. Come Sept 20 and he’ll be in for a rude awakening.I’m worried about how our fans would greet him, I would hate it if we don’t boo him.
Kiko is a very good finisher, old school striker but needs to improve his touch and passing. His first touch especially needs to improve.
What is exciting about Welbeck and Kiko is that they are such contrasting strikers, Kiko has the strength to ward off defenders whereas Welbeck is more composed with the ball at his feet and is a better player running at defenders. Hopefully they will not tread the path that Rossi and Ebanks-Blake did.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:19
Will this man ever stop talking about us and do what is he paid for… I mean he is wasting truckload of money on buying shit right backs like Glen Johnson and now moaning about United have war chest to spend, which they will use. And that too, when there are no signs from Utd which suggests that we will spend mad…
Latest from the Fat Spanish Waiter…
http://www.soccerway.com/news/2009/July/21/benitez-worried-man-utd-will-splash-ronaldo-cash/
July 21st, 2009 at 11:26
@Scorp: The great thing about all our strikers is that they offer something different between them.
Owen – is small and agile and comes alive in the box
Rooney – is power and aggression and disrupts defenders with his desire
Berba – has all the touch and guile and and drop in deep to create space and dictate play as well score goals.
Kiko – is and old fashioned number 9, big stong and knows where the goal is.
Welbeck – is also tall and unpredicatble and and run off the shoulders of defenders and has all the confidence in the world.
Ok the two young lads are not the finished article by no means, but they have ability which is something the manager can work with, Berba and Wazza need to step up to the plate and deliever consistantly and Owen seems to have fallen in love with football again so touch wood we will be fine up front theis season.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:28
@Onkar: Same old garbage from Rafa claiming that they would improve and that would be enough to dislodge us. Same old garbage hyping up his signings.
Its time they change their anthem to ‘18 till I die’
July 21st, 2009 at 11:33
@Stephen: Yes and to add to that Mame-Diouf assuming he is atleast 100 times better than Manucho
It is infact very heartening to see that SAF believes in Kiko and wants to give him and Danny the chance. Going for another striker who wouldnt like to be benched would have been ‘Rossi’ all over again.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:39
@Scorp: I am 100 times better than Manucho mate!
At least they will get a chance now which has to be a good thing rather than bring in another Real Madrid lover, the players we have have a chance to prove themselves and I for one think it is the way forward, player who come through any clubs academy do have the little bit extra desire on the pitch soemtimes and that could win you leagues.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:40
@STRETFORD_END_ST_HOLDER: fair point, i dont disagree
but i just find it hard to beleive he is only in it for the money…..
but he is hardly going to have more playing time at city, so he is idiotic to say the least
July 21st, 2009 at 11:47
@johnsom33: ya man it is wierd and emotional seeing ronnie wearing the white of madrid
but he did do our club a great service while here and despite his aroggant and immature behaviour, he isnt a judas, and went on good terms, and i wish him well, except when utd play madrid of course
July 21st, 2009 at 11:49
@jamie lee: Most footballers are only in it for the money, coupled with any player who signs for City are almost 100% certainly only in for the money Carlos is no different.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:59
@Stephen: Then you should apply for a trial at Real Valladoid mate
and then you can tell the world that only God knows your future and that you miss the Manchester rain !! 
July 21st, 2009 at 11:59
@Beachryan: rooney needs to grow the fuck up!Desire?to maime a player in a friendly?His anger was tolorated at 17,18 not now.
We have lost our best player we dwant all our players on the pitch and not suspended
July 21st, 2009 at 12:01
@donibrasco: We tolerated Keane’s up until he left the club, same with Cantona.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:07
@donibrasco: Gary Neville once said the players don’t pull out of 50-50 tackles in the training just because they are up against their own team mates. He said if they didn’t have the balls to do it in the training, they would never replicate that on the pitch. Rooney is that kind of a player, we need to accept him that way.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:13
@Scorp: To some degree we need that type of player, we have so many nice guys in the side side we need someone who can mix it up a bit to some degree we need a Styles, Robson, Keane type in the side to add a bit of fear.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:22
@Scorp:
But, I am amazed of one thing that, how can he manage to play the same tune again and again and again….
Absolutely mate bang on….
I mean i am fed of it listening and reading to it.. But, the man can’t seem to stop talking it…
I don’t know how his wife bears him. He is so unbearable
I petty that poor lady…. 
July 21st, 2009 at 12:28
if wayne rooney didnt have that tempermental spark about him then he wouldnt be the same player, we should all be glad he gets so emotional and cares for the team. besides his hard man play is typical utd, so its all good
July 21st, 2009 at 12:31
@Scorp: I would never miss the Manchester rain mate!
July 21st, 2009 at 13:29
Right, according to the rags, rafael has dislocated his shoulder. Now this is the same injury that kept fabio out last year. Something i know about dislocated parts of the body is that it takes years to heal, once you dislocate your arm or leg, expect the bone to come out a fair few times for the next few years.
That made me wonder, if it isnt fabio playing right now, but instead rafael? just a guess, but it is odd that they both dislocate there shoulders.
But if you look at the way fabio plays compared to rafael, it probably is fabio on the tour.
July 21st, 2009 at 13:43
Samir Nasri has broken his leg in training. Hahahahahaha.
July 21st, 2009 at 13:52
@Traverse: Dude, thats not funny, hes out for a couple of months.
Im surprised you would laugh at this
July 21st, 2009 at 14:08
Stevie stevie time to say goodbye
You are now gone in a blink of an eye
But it could be worse, it coulda been death
but now you suck till theres no cum left…
July 21st, 2009 at 14:16
@Traverse:
I’m just listening to the accusations against Gerrard. Sounds like he attacked a Man Utd fan(allegedly). Apparently it was a violent frenzy over a dispute regarding music. Hopefully it will be 12 months in gaol,at least. Violent thugs need to be locked up for the sake of society.
July 21st, 2009 at 14:24
@Dan: He’s an Arsenal player. It’s hilarious. Everytime any opposition player gets injured now I will laugh my ass off that Michael Owen isn’t.
July 21st, 2009 at 14:25
@Cyclops-Red: I, as a Manchester United fan, now fear for my life that Gerrard may attack me. Please lock him up for the sake of the children.
July 21st, 2009 at 14:28
@Traverse: that is very, very true. They do say Owen is injury prone. Ill turn a blind eye and join in just for you.
Take that cockney wanks!
@Traverse:
July 21st, 2009 at 14:30
@Traverse: How are you gonna laugh at someones misfortune? Absolute zero class.
July 21st, 2009 at 14:34
@Johnsom33: I dont think hes laughing at the injury itself. More the fact that a player from a rival club is injured and Owen isnt.
July 21st, 2009 at 14:39
@Cyclops-Red: Im not expecting any kind of punishment to be given to gerrard except for some pathetic fine which for an act of violence, and it does sound pretty severe, any normal person who wasnt a footballer would be thrown in prison.
Is what cantona did all those years really much worse than what gerrard did. Cantona was being racially abused by a guy who probably wanted him to react, maybe it wasnt right for cantona to jump into the crowd and fly kick the guy but if your honest is a kick to the face and a few punches much worse than what gerrard did when reportedly him and a few mates beat the crap out of a guy for such a insignificant matter such as changing the music.
Lets not forget cantona received an 8 month suspension for reacting but in my opinion for worthy reasons, i live 10 mins away from selhurst park and believe me the palace fans are a real bunch of racists and i can see why anyone would react to that. The FA came down on him though like a tonne of bricks but when a real thug like gerrards kicks off he gets nothing but a pathetic fine cos make no mistake thats all he will get. Maybe it was because cantona did it in the public eye but for me theres no comparison between the 2 incidents at all, cantona kicked off because the scum bag deserved and was racist towards him, gerrard kicked off and beat the crap out of the guy because of changing the music. If cantona got an 8 month ban for that gerrard should be banned for a year. But englands golden boy wont be punished at all, the guy is god damn scum and nothing would please me more than to see the coward get a ban of any kind of even a prison sentence (heres hoping), lets see how the idiot feels when hes sharing a cell with a 30 stone guy named moe who has taken quite a shine to him lol, then we’ll see how big he is.
July 21st, 2009 at 14:43
@Dan: Im not buying the Owen excuse. Everyone on here considered Owen was injury prone before he signed, because he was. And now he is claiming that he is laughing at arsenal because one of their players got hurt? That’s bullshit mate, and I can’t believe you would co-sign on something like that.
July 21st, 2009 at 14:45
na na na na na
na na na na na
hey hey hey
drop the soap!
lol this is like a good christmas!
July 21st, 2009 at 14:48
@Matt: Gerrard is a scum bag, his father has serious connections with gangsters it is well known, he bottled his move to Chelsea because of intolerable pressure being placed on his family by “certain elements”.
We all know about his wife and her “relationship” with a certain ganster called Pancake don’t we? Are we at all surprised that the stepdad would do such a thing? Of course not.
July 21st, 2009 at 14:49
@Johnsom33: If he was outright making fun of a player for getting injured, id agree with you and think hes totally wrong. I dont think traverse is doing that, i genuinely believe hes laughing at the fact that arsenal say Owen is injury prone while one of there players get injured them selves in training.
July 21st, 2009 at 15:00
you know, the fact is, Even if he gets a short 6 month sentance, thats still liverpools title bid over
Then that would leave chelsea as our main contenders, african cup of nations anyone?
that leaves arsenal, strikers arent good enough, or not ready, lack quality wingers, fabregas might go
July 21st, 2009 at 15:03
“Here y’are lad. Give me that lad”-stevie Me
July 21st, 2009 at 15:09
So apparently it was gerrard and 4 other guys against the 1 DJ.
I guess newcastle werent the only ones to take a 5-1 beating that day…
July 21st, 2009 at 15:10
@Dan:
July 21st, 2009 at 15:17
@Matt:
The worst he will get is a rap on the knuckles and a fine. Pathetic, really
July 21st, 2009 at 15:23
@Cyclops-Red: He will probably get a Knighthood.
July 21st, 2009 at 15:26
@Stephen:
Sir Saint Stevie
July 21st, 2009 at 15:35
@Natzca:Gunners fans are very happy with the transfer more than that sorry no comments
July 21st, 2009 at 15:36
@Traverse: hey it’s not the joke okay
July 21st, 2009 at 15:37
What is this a Gooner site today?
July 21st, 2009 at 15:43
@Stephen: yes it is I am biggest fan of the Gunners and I am proud of that
July 21st, 2009 at 15:45
@kedar: Well done mate
, sorry to hear about Nasri he ran us ragged at the Emirtates last season, class player. 
July 21st, 2009 at 15:47
@Stephen: I am very pleased hear that you are respecting gunner player
July 21st, 2009 at 15:47
@Johnsom33: I’m laughing at another team because they have an injured player, just like we get shit every time Saha falls over a cat, and what we’ll get when eventually Owen gets injured. What surprises me most is that his leg was broken by an Arsenal player. I wasn’t sure there was anyone in the Arsenal team capable of making a tackle.
I’m wallowing in another teams misfortune. Nothing wrong with that. I didn’t wish ill on Nasri personally. Hell, scousers attacked Alan Smiths ambulance.. this is much less than that. I guess I’m laughing at the end of Arsenals title bid before it even began. Slightly earlier than usual this season then.
Plus I hate that chimp bastard Martin Keown. Isn’t that enough?
July 21st, 2009 at 15:48
@kedar:
Why do you not see sense like your brother
July 21st, 2009 at 15:51
@Cyclops-Red: I have lot of sense but because of you are MU fan you can’t see my sense
July 21st, 2009 at 16:05
@kedar:
Mate, good answer!!
July 21st, 2009 at 16:10
@Traverse: Yeah but Saha and Owen are proven injury prone players. Why do you think they both singed “pay-to-play” contracts? Its a fact that everyone can agree on that they cant stay fit. So I dont know why you are all of a sudden taking it personal, and using that as justification to laugh at someone breaking a leg.
at the end of the day do what you want, but Karma is a bitch… trust me.
July 21st, 2009 at 16:23
@johnsom33: my guess is owen doesnt pick up any serious injury problems this year
also 17+ goals
July 21st, 2009 at 16:25
@johnsom33: Why don’t you disappear off to arseblog with the rest of them. Owen will probably get injured. I’m getting mine in now. One less team to bother our title next season. boo hoo.
July 21st, 2009 at 16:30
@johnsom33: Owen isnt injury prone and you know it!
1 bad injury doesnt make you injury prone! it makes you a player that has/had a bad injury.
July 21st, 2009 at 16:43
off point….
i hear hargo will be back by the end of september!!
also regarding man city im really exicted that we are finally going to get a decent challege from the rejects, becuase with all their spending, and BIG ambitions they are going to fall flat on their face!!! Hughes is no fergie and city aint no united so it will be all smiles for us united fans when we piss all over them and owen grabs the winner in our derby match!!
TEVEZ u plonker, hope u enjoy less playing time.
July 21st, 2009 at 16:49
Important Games Tevez has started:
Liverpool (A), Villareal (CL), Celtic (CL), Liverpool (H), Arsenal (CL), Man City (H), Arsenal (H), Spurs (CC FInal) 8 Games
Important Games Berbatov has started:
Liverpool (A), Chelsea (A), Chelsea (H), Celtic (CL), Arsenal (A), Man City (A), Inter (CL x 2), Man City (H) 9 Games
This of course is biased as the “important games” listed here are only important in my personal opinion. But it goes to show that when Tevez starts spouting things like “Oh, I didn’t get picked for the important games” and “Fergie preferred Berbatov over me” is all bull as Berba just started one extra “important game”. You didn’t hear Berba complaining and he’s supposed to be a sulk
Yes, Tevez can fuck off.
Oh and catchy tune btw.
July 21st, 2009 at 16:50
@jamie lee: that post makes no sense. You first say you’re pleased that we are “finally going get a decent challenge” out of city, then you immediately say afterwards that they will “fall flat on their face”
July 21st, 2009 at 16:58
@Dan: ya what i mean is they will actually be a worry this time round, but at the end of the day they will never be us and therefor we will still stand strong…. u get it?
July 21st, 2009 at 16:59
@Red Ranter: You should pay attetntion to their lyrics. Ray Davies is surely one of the best lyricist of the classic sixties rock n roll bands.
@Will: @Redrich: @Andrei: @Wanyno: The point of the song Lola is that the protagonist ends up being seduced by the transvestite and ends up not minding it at all, in the end enjoying it!
And enjoying the song doesn’t necessarily imply that you’re yourself a poof.
July 21st, 2009 at 17:13
@Stephen: Nasri is a one trick pony. He sowed up only against us and was found out of his depth against many other teams. Has far to go before he steps up to the level of Pires – which he was touted to be.
Among the trio of promising French/Norther African kids of recent years (including Benzema and Ben Arfa) he’s the least talented.
On a side note, Benzema just scored for Real. I hope he ends up putting Raul on the bench, and outscores Ronaldo.
July 21st, 2009 at 17:23
@NicoQB: i hope benzi turns out to be shite because i hate the way he kept saying it was easy to turn down united over real, piss off benzema!!
July 21st, 2009 at 17:38
@Anthony Los: Most of all, I want Real to FAIL, and I was equally disappointed with Benzema’s rebuttal of our advances.
But I can’t stand Raul’s apparent godfather status in Real, and would love it if a dent was put in Ronaldo’s ego.
July 21st, 2009 at 17:41
@Stephen and @Cyclops: Yes, but Etoo has said that he is willing to climb down from his wage demands if United come looking for him. African Nations is only for around a month, we have enough backup during that time. And no way Kiko can be an alternative to someone like Eto’o! Eto’o is almost 20+ goals assured for the season. probably the only one who can come close to matching Ronaldo. And he is still good, not that old.
And i still think unless we buy a new GK, we have no chance with the Cup. VDS is not that good anymore and Foster is just not United class! We ignore buying a GK and I am dead sure we are going to pay for it!
July 21st, 2009 at 17:42
@NicoQB: i would too, ronaldo is nowhere near to being the king of real madrid and im sure as long as raul is there ronny wont be regarded as highly as him – which is great
July 21st, 2009 at 17:54
@Traverse: SO because I dont gloat when another teams player has a bad injury, then I should disappear to another blog? get real.
I dont want others teams players to be out or suspended, I want to win the title with every team at full strength, its called competition. No one likes winning the title by default, I want United to earn all their titles not get them gift wrapped like Inter Milan.
July 21st, 2009 at 17:55
An £80mil player should be scoring 40-50 goals minimum tbh, so when ronaldo scores around 20 this season, and 20 thte next, expect him to move to old trafford again in a £30mil deal.
By then, £30mil wil be peanuts
Bookmark this, all of you.
July 21st, 2009 at 17:59
@godzilla: Youre completely right we need a GK. To be specific Igor Akinfeev, he is young, and quite all-rounded. TBH i dont think his value is ridiculous maybe £7-9 Mil.
July 21st, 2009 at 18:17
@Dan: Owen signed for 20k a week, because no one wanted him. At newcastle he just couldnt stay fit. Im hoping that Fergies rotation policy and Owens new desire to win trophies will make him a success this year. I guarentee he will have more than 5 league goals…
July 21st, 2009 at 18:22
@johnsom33: well hull and stoke definitely wanted him. Liverpool considered him. So your claim that no one wanted him is wrong. Thats just england, im sure there were more clubs in the league and abroad that wanted him.
Btw, hes on 50k a week, just under the average of a squad player.
July 21st, 2009 at 18:39
@johnsom33: You tend to forget that nearly every season, we have our own fair share of injuries. Hargreaves, Brown, Rooney, Rio; and before that Saha, Giggs, Solskjaer…
Yet we always manged to make a strong title challenge even when we didn’t manage to win.
Injuries are part of the game. And no one should claim that a title is less worthy when the oppositon didn’t have some important player. I strongly believe we would have still; managed a strong title challenge even if Ronaldo was injured for a whole season.
July 21st, 2009 at 19:07
quick question, RR, is it possible to know how many posts i made since the blog began?
I had a rough guess, i would say around 8500-15 000coments. Its a bit wide but i reckon somewhere in that bracket.
July 21st, 2009 at 19:14
@Dan: Dont get caught up on the wrong issue here. Did he or did he not sign a contract based heavily on incentives? Did he or did he not have an embarrasing 32 page brochure sent to all the teams trying to sale him? Sounds pretty odd that a former England starting striker has to shop his services around. It also seems strange that a player of his calibre is being linked with clubs like Stoke and Hull.
Are you honestly gonna try and argue that Owen doesnt have injury concerns?
BTW I have read nowhere that he is on 50k a week. The highest I seen is 30k a week…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/5735857/Michael-Owen-completes-Manchester-United-move.html
July 21st, 2009 at 19:19
@NicoQB: I realize that injuries are part of the game, last year proved that. We won the title last year largely because of our depth, and not necessarily because we had the best XI. Im overjoyed that we won the title, but Im still gutted that we got smacked at home to Liverpool, and they had a better goal differential.
At the end of the day we are champions and there is no disputing that, I just like knowing that our team is the best in the land and that our competitors have no excuses(AKA Eduardo, AKA STevie Me and Torres).
July 21st, 2009 at 19:26
@johnsom33: well i read that he was 100k a week at newcastle, and his wages were cut to come here.
And yes, i will say he doesnt have injury concerns, am i not allowed to say this?
July 21st, 2009 at 19:44
@Dan: Your allowed to say whatever you want, your a grown man. It doesnt change the fact that your wrong.
July 21st, 2009 at 19:45
@johnsom33: And you’re right of course
July 21st, 2009 at 19:50
no one answered my question,
how much did we sell manucho for??
Thanks
July 21st, 2009 at 19:55
@Anthony Los: £20mil plus future incentives.
July 21st, 2009 at 19:56
@Anthony Los: Fergie told him that he could only leave if it were for a world record fee, So we sold him for 81M. not a bad piece of business if you ask me
July 21st, 2009 at 19:58
@Dan: where am I wrong? You dont get a player of Owens goal scoring record for free without a catch.
July 21st, 2009 at 19:59
@Dan: honestly how much did he go for
July 21st, 2009 at 20:11
@johnsom33: We were talking about his injury record there, not his wage. Every player has wages its nothing new, fact is, we probably generate enough for wages and then some from ticket sales alone, forgetting about TV deals and money based on success.
July 21st, 2009 at 20:23
@Dan: “Every player has wages its nothing new, fact is, we probably generate enough for wages and then some from ticket sales alone, forgetting about TV deals and money based on success.
“
what are you talking about? what does that have to do with Owens injury record?
July 21st, 2009 at 20:32
Owen wants to play for United, Ronaldo and Tevez do not.
July 21st, 2009 at 20:46
@Stephen: Good call, I actually saw little Mickey Owen with a smile on his face, he’s landed on his feet with SAF, and like you said, Ronaldo and Tevez do not want to play for United.
Simples.
July 21st, 2009 at 21:27
@johnsom33: you asked “Are you honestly gonna try and argue that Owen doesnt have injury concerns?” in comment 124.
Then i said “And yes, i will say he doesnt have injury concerns, am i not allowed to say this?”
you replied “Your allowed to say whatever you want, your a grown man. It doesnt change the fact that your wrong.”
then i said “of course you are.”
Then you said “where am I wrong? You dont get a player of Owens goal scoring record for free without a catch.”
If you start from the beginning you can clearly see we were talking about his injury record. If you cant keep one debate separate from another, thats your fault and business.
July 21st, 2009 at 21:28
@Anthony Los: 10 goats.
July 21st, 2009 at 21:30
@m34ch: how do you add a log to your name?
July 21st, 2009 at 21:48
@Dan: hahaha
:):):):)
July 21st, 2009 at 21:58
@godzilla:
There is no doubting Eto’s goal scoring record. Its quite clear he is after one last major financial contract. Utd’s highest paid earners are on £6m per year which equates to approx. £3m per year. City were willing to offer him £5m net per annum, Inter approx. £7m net. He also wants a signing on fee which Inter will probably pay. Utd will not pay these figures nor will they sign a player purely for money. The dictat coming from the club is NO MERCENARIES.
July 21st, 2009 at 22:15
@Anthony Los:
Tbh, i dont know, i actually looked a few days ago, and no specific price was mentioned.
July 21st, 2009 at 22:19
@Dan: ok cool thanks
July 21st, 2009 at 22:25
@[OPTI]Madschester United: Go to gravatar dot com and sign up with the email you use here to post, and upload an image. I’ve only just done it; it’s free and pretty cool how it works actually, hope this helps.
July 21st, 2009 at 22:26
‘Owen wants to play for United’
That statement needs to be looked at closely. It doesn’t just mean thinking ‘yeah they are a big team, I will go there’ it means that if you had your choice of any other club, you would choose United.I don’t doubt that if the scousers had come in for Owen, he would have run back. So while I am pleased to have Owen, i also know that if he had his choice of any team in the premiership, we wouldn’t be number one
July 21st, 2009 at 23:07
@Dan: Nice one Dan!
July 21st, 2009 at 23:13
@Dan: Let me hold your hand for a second, since this seems to be going completely over your head. Owen was once a huge star in World football(remember when Real madrid brought him in?)He was a prolific goal scorer for both club and country. Fast foward to today and what has happened to his career? You said so yourself, he was being linked with clubs like Stoke and Hull(not exactly the biggest clubs in the world.) Why wasnt he in demand anymore? Why did he go from 110k lbs a week to 30k a wek at United? Why is his contract based heavily on the number of goals and appearances he makes for us?
Its because everyone had major reservations about his injury records. Its common knowledge, and frankly Im baffled that you are even trying to dispute it.
Look your a United fan and so am I, it would make me so happy if Owen gets tru the season relatively injury free and scores a bucket of goals for us. Im hoping that going foward his injuries are all behind him, but you still cant ignore the fact that up to this point he hasnt exactly been the most fit football player around.
July 21st, 2009 at 23:30
@johnsom33: I am real, I can go outside and not take things on the internet so seriously and everything
I still hate Martin Keown.
July 22nd, 2009 at 0:17
if anyone cares,
here’s a link to the video footage of gertard’s fight:
gerrard’s brawl
July 22nd, 2009 at 0:25
@Natzca: I think they have it over at ROM also!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 0:59
I think SAF squashed my fears of not still having the 80m, as i think he wouldnt make fun of arse winger for not being able to spend the money he gets from citeh.
” Arsenal have got the biggest test to be where they want to be, I think. I know that Arsene Wenger doesn’t have any money, I know that. I think that selling Adebayor — well, whether he can use that money is another question. There seems to be evidence that he can’t use the money, I don’t know. I think they’re struggling cash-wise. It’s a big test for Arsenal.”
July 22nd, 2009 at 0:59
@Redrich: poor guy, he’s claiming self defence, lucky he had some great boxing skills pup his sleeve, to protect him and his friends.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:02
“We didn’t try to buy Ribery, we explored it in a nice, quiet way when David Gill was at one of his meetings with Bayern in March,” said Ferguson. “They told him, ‘absolutely no chance’ and the one thing you can say about Bayern is that, when they say something, they mean it.
“When we negotiated with them over Hargreaves, at the beginning they said ‘no’, but they also said that, if it ever changed, their minds, we’d be the first to know.
“It was exactly the same this time. There is no way that they will sell Ribery.”
does this mean we may still have a chance at ugly frank?
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:06
@gator: I’d take being first in line for him, IF they decide to sell, me thinks it might be next year now though. Great footballer.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:22
@Natzca: He has that streak of filth running all the way through him. It just goes with territory!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:41
BREAKING NEWS: Steven Gerrard quits football. He was said to have received an offer too good to refuse….. in boxing.
I’d posted this earlier on twitter and facebook, and thought of posting it here too
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:09
@Redrich: no he’s stevie gerrard! the best player in the world, he can’t do no wrong.
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:11
@Natzca: he also eats from bins.
Unconfirmed reports he turned up to court in shellsuit and a curly wig.
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:28
@Red Ranter: saw that on FB, ’tis a good post,
this was my reply: He then goes on a 0 -30 record, because he finds professional boxers can punch back
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:17
@Traverse:
Also heard that he’s arguing that his “trotters” cannot be considered fists!!
Will he get convicted??? Pigs might fly!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:27
May this be a warning to all of you!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/21/manchester-united-malaysia-stabbing-football
July 22nd, 2009 at 5:18
@Redrich: she did take him to the hospital afterwards now that’s love
July 22nd, 2009 at 5:20
@Redrich: imagine that, your beloved football team comes to town, you finally get to see them play live, you want to hang out with your mates and have a good chat about how good macheda is looking, and how owen is going to score a goal at anfield later this year,
and the missus can’t even understand!?
July 22nd, 2009 at 5:41
@Natzca: The scouser assassins could be lurking anywhere!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:20
@Redrich: yes, always check before marrying
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:36
@Natzca:
You know what bro, after few years you may see my name in the news headlines
As my GF is a bloody Scouser Fan…
Now I realize, why they that ‘Love is blind’. But, so much…
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:43
@Onkar: oh no, you poor fella, you’re gonna cop it when Owen puts one in for United at Anfield this season!
my gf (now wife) fortunately doesn’t follow sport…so i’m half safe?
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:52
@Natzca: Lucky Chap….
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:00
@Onkar: only half safe mate,
still doesn’t give me full rights to go out on all night benders watching the footie..
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:09
@Natzca: If you are half safe mate then I am totally screwed… As I said my GF is a Scouser…
and to add to agony my bro is Gooner.. 
I need to find the place for hideouts as I will need it, when Owen will fuck Liverpool at Anfield…
and Rooney will fuck Gooners at Emirates (which he normally does)…. 
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:44
The Girl friend and family are Gooners. I love my girl but I’d take a knife in the chest and proudly bleed red for UNITED!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:26
To all the Ranters (Commentators) on the blog and specially to all the Berba basher i want to put something for the discussion/ Debate:
I know most of the people who support Manchester Utd feels that Berba wasn’t the success in his debut season. I know on what account you say that. I mean do say this because he scored only 14 Goals and Almost same amount of assists so contributing to only around 25 goals??? The answer in my mind is ‘BIG NO’.
In the back of your head you all seem to relate his performance to the cost we incurred to hire his services i.e. close to GBP 30.75 mn which i don’t say is totally wrong. To add to that I am sure if we would have been able to buy him for say GBP 20 mn then it would have considered as a good if not great buy….But then a thought came to my mind….
Now, in the wake of the development in last few weeks the thought which came to my mind was what will be the gauge that you will use to rate Ronaldo now??? I mean if he will score say 35 goals in next season then will he regarded as a success… If you say in normal circumstances if the midfielder scores that amount of goals then its a superlative achievement but then if we apply the same rule of Berba to him saying that he costs his team 80 mn then 35 goals is no good. Here, some people may come up with the influence on team and all but then i don’t think he will have the same amount of luxury there as he was having with us…
So then in that case how will you judge Berba as a First season or where do you see Ronaldo should be to justify his price….
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:08
@Onkar: For £80mil, ronaldo should be scoring 45 goals minimum, and hes never done that before.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:21
@Onkar: Ronaldo is a winger. For wingers, scoring goals is an added bonus. Berbatov is a striker. For strikers, scoring goals is their job, their primary reason for existence.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:38
its no good when the missus doesn’t give a crap about footy and see it as a waste of time.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:40
@Karl: I’m pretty sure Ronaldo was bought primarily for the reason that he will be scoring goals, even though technically he’s a winger
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:50
@Karl: U have not got point mate!!! I mean if I am just trying to ask a simple question that what Ronaldo needs to do to justify his Tag of 80 mn player. I just used berba’s example to point through…
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:08
David Villa to United rumour;
http://www.guillembalague.com/rumores_desp.php?id=216&titulo=United%20Prepared%20to%20Swoop%20for%20Frustrated%20Villa
Probably wont happen but at least its from a proper journalist (whether you like him or not) and not from some idiotic website or tabloid.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:20
Ronaldo is the greatest player on the planet, madrid are trying to build another galactigos, probably so that the fans forget the 6-2 drumming
they received under barca.They had to get ronaldo to appease the fans atleast.And they had to rebuild the team coz the one they had last year was a joke. beaten home and away and embarassed by the scousers,madrid dont know how to build talent they buy finished products.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:20
Regardless of how many goals Ronaldo scores he is great value for £80 million. Real have got a player who can single handedly win matches against any opposition, not to mention create space for everyone else. In the Spanish League where the defences are not as strong and referees give players more protection he is gonna rip it up and murder every team.
He hardly ever gets injured, can play two games a week for an entire season with no problems whatsoever…..really he is good value for 80 mill.
He is SO much more than just a goalscorer. If he was a striker yeah you’d expect 45 goals a season. But he is a winger and there is so much more to his game and you are paying 80 million for the full package and really he is the most complete attacking player since Ronaldinho.
Interestingly Giggs thinks we will go back to 4-4-2 with the signing of Valencia. Im not sure our central midfield is strong enough for that UNLESSS Hargreaves makes a full recovery and stays fit. But it would certainly bring the best out of Berbatov and Rooney.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:46
@colver: Yeah i agree! If we really revert to 4-4-2, which should be the logical thing after Valencia purchase then, it will definitely bring out the best of Berba and Rooney.. But, provided that they are playing where they should be.
In my opinion Rooney should play of Berba not other way around which Fergie did try last year. I mean that case he was playing both players in the alien’s territory.
Moreover, we will definitely need a stronger CMF then what we have right now. And, honestly I am not that sure of OH anymore.
But then who else we can target.. I mean we all have scratched our head for last 6 weeks but can’t seem to find an common solution… Can we???
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:04
@Dominic: does this have an element of truth to it?
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:31
@Onkar: Well you are obviously forgetting his marketability as a sports icon (probably only rivals Beckham – something not true even for the likes of Kaka, Messi) and his age (24 so his best yet to come as Fergie put it. DB9 is on the other hand is 28, not going to improve much further, and not as marketable). Ronaldo might actually turn out to be cheap at 80m (just like DB7 was cheap at 25m).
Kaka at 56m is the expensive one though!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:41
@Anthony Los: No it doesnt. As you will have seen I wrote ‘probably won’t happen’ and also when did any transfer story ever have an element of truth to it? United don’t announce who they are going to sign and I will not believe anything until I see a player at the club with his arm around fergie waving a scarf. However Guilleme Ballague is a good source for Spanish football and given that Barca and Madrid have both bought new, expensive strikers and Valencia’s precarious position, Villa is now a very realistic target.
Ferguson just said the other day we bid for Benzema at 35 million, there were numerous news reports saying something similar – none of which, according to your rigorous demands, would have had any element of truth in them at the time.
He also said we enquired about Ribery in March and got a negative response from Bayern. This was reported at the time by Raphael Honegstein in the Guardian (a good source for German football) but again this would have been discounted by you due to its lack of truth.
I dont really believe we are finished shopping, as Ferguson saying we are finished now and then days later going and buying this Diouf kid proved. It was just a smokescreen to take the pressure off. Villa was one of the players heavily linked to us at the beginning of the Summer and Fergie didnt mention him the other day and the only time he will ever talk about a prospective transfer is when its old news.
Clutching at straws? As I said ‘probably’…and there is also the quite major problem of him not wanting to leave Spain and whether we really need him.
But the only thing that keeps me going during the summer is conjecture around transfer news and I just felt this was worth sharing. But no, it has no truth in it….and transfer stories rarely do…all you can do is check your sources.
Is that OK?
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:52
@Dominic: Wow thanks thats really good.
But all im thinking right now is if we buy, say a centre mid or a left mid or even a striker, this is going to eliminate the players that are already in those positions. For example, if we bought villa, berba wouldn’t start, owen would barely get any time on the pitch and macheda/welbeck wouldn’t get their break out season. Say if we buy de rossi (wont happen but hypothetically if we did) where would anderson play and gibson would not have his break out season. Same goes with a left mid, what would we do with nani because giggs wld be the one used as a reserve not nani and the player who we bought wld be the starter. So i think we have a sort of complete squad (this is very debatable) even though parts of it are mediocre.
Any thoughts?
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:57
http://www.kapoww-t-shirts.com/football-t-shirts/21-gerrard-going-down.php
This is the must buy shirt of the season. Id pay £50 for this!
July 22nd, 2009 at 13:18
@Anthony Los: I think everyone talking about midfielders solely comes from this site. I have seen barely anything else linking us to midfielders. You have to trust Fergie on this one, he will get another season out of Giggs and Scholes (whether people like it or not) and he must believe that Hargreaves is OK or can at least play once every 10 days (which he just said about Owen). We have lots of midfielders in the squad, he obviously is hoping to use Gibson more this season, and whether people like all these players or not they better deal with it because next Summer is when, or if, we buy a centre mid.
If we buy anyone else it will be a left winger or a forward. There seems to definitely be something in the Costa rumour as it really wont go away. You barely ever see Giggs on the left wing these days and he has to be seen as a centre mid. I am not a fan of Nani his decision making is truly awful and he refuses to track back….something I could barely stomach from Ronaldo but from him is inexcusable. He will definitely play more this season but he can also play on both wings. Tosic is a work in a progress (one I feel is doomed for failure) so maybe another left winger would not be so bad.
As for strikers well Fergie has just said Owen will be used sporadically. Berbatov was not a nailed on starter last season. Rooney is pretty much nailed on this season although I fear its as a number 9 not a number 10, as Fergie has been obsessed with him playing that position for a few years. Macheda will get more games I am sure but that Villa goal has maybe unjustifiably increased his profile and it could be a few years before we know if hes the real deal. Wellbeck is ripe for a loan move and if we keep him then I bet we play him wide more than through the middle. The 99 team had 4 experienced strikers and there is no reason why Fergie will not do the same this season and buy someone else. Probably wont be Villa, definitely wont be Aguero but there could be one more?
I hope so anyway because am I really meant to get excited about Michael ‘friggin Owen? Never liked him as a person or a player….I totally understand the rationale behind the whole thing but I have never been so underwhelmed by a transfer in my life. People saying he really wants to play for United are completely deluded….he is a mercenary of the highest order and would have been more than happy at any of the top 4 or 6/7 clubs…cue bleating how much he loves the club and rates himself. I hate his little face, he is the worlds most boring man, and am going to now have to cheer him for the next few years….and hes wearing No.7. Does this not make anyone else feel a little sick?
July 22nd, 2009 at 13:31
@Karl: Bull about Berbatov.
There are primarily two types of strikers: the “goalscorers” and
the “creators”
When Cantona, Bergkamp, Beardsley, Del Piero among others don’t achieve spectacular goal totalsnobody question them, because pwopl know they contribute in other aspecto the game.
Heck, even players like Heskey have their use in a particuar system (ask Capello) so no, a strikers role is not solely to score goals. It should be judged on whether his PRESENCE is more likely to make the team win, at which Berbatov showed last season that he was at least not as bad as his detractors painted him to be.
July 22nd, 2009 at 13:50
@Dominic: Haha your’e reallly laying to down on Michael. I dont mind him, he is an awesome poacher and he has still got some pace left. You’re right about the centre mids issue. We need to cope with what we’ve got, i just hope we dont play giggs centrally it reminds me of that horrible 03/04 season, he played there with djemba, and miller ahhhh!! But i think nani is going to turn out a great player, he just needs his confidence to rocket sky high then he will be very dangerous for our oppositions. Yea in 99 we did have 4 strikers but they had a very good understanding with eachother and the manager, so if david villa signed for us and played alongside rooney and they got subbed for macheda and owen, villa wld be fucked off. But with sherigham and solskiar (mind spelling) they didnt mind because they knew it was a rotation system with yorke and cole and i dontt think david villa has the ability to comprehend that, he is more like the best player starts mentality.
July 22nd, 2009 at 13:53
*error horrible 03/04 season and 04/05 season
July 22nd, 2009 at 13:55
@NicoQB: Totally agree with the sentiment. However my fear for Berbatov, which Cantona and all the others had, is his lack of scoring crucial goals. I think he is a beautiful footballer, much like Veron (who I loved and was dying for him to fit in), but it maybe that he lacks the heart and courage to grab a game by the scruff of the neck. He seems to have too much confidence in his own ability – that his languid style will pay off in the end. But he also misses far too many sitters and i remember a few times last season when he was put through one on one and the centre backs got back before he got off a shot. I have also never seen a striker who spends less time on the box!
However they are just my fears and I am just playing devils advocate. I really hope this season he steps up because he definitely has the ability – a £30 million striker should have sublime control which Berbatov has to an exquisite level – something which somebody should probably tell Carlos Tevez!
July 22nd, 2009 at 14:12
@Dominic: Many of Berbatov’s flaws last season, to which I would agre with by the way – exceptthe part about being one on one with keeper, were resulting from the system in which we played, i.e. Ronaldo made to be the no.1 goal threat.
If Berbatov gets consequent game time and does not deliver, then he’ll have no excuse this time, as far as goals are concerned. I still think he ‘ll probably average around 15 assists though.
July 22nd, 2009 at 14:21
@NicoQB:
be that as it may, he should have scored more goals,like when he did at the champions league.he should have continued with that form and atleast scored once in every two games played.
July 22nd, 2009 at 14:22
@Anthony Los: Yeah your right that midfield was truly awful! Most people thought fergie had lost it for a few years and its quite amazing how he turned it all around to win 3 in a row. If you go back 3 years when we only bought Carrick not many people gave us a chance…yet we have not looked back since. Possibly at the expense of the quality of football but fergies greatest strength is to move with the times and he reacts very quickly to trends in the game. I am hoping he takes a leaf out of Barcas book next season and gets the team to pressure from the front….so no more prima donna’s standing around for the cameras with their hands on their hips.
I get your point about Giggs in the middle but the one who worries me more nowadays is Scholes….I honestly think hes shot and needs to call it day though hes a wonderful player and it pains me to say it.
Nani as I said I am really not sure about….but I am looking forward to be proved wrong!
As for the 4 strikers thing…your completely right and the Villa thing is just me wishing! But the only person guaranteed of a place last season was Ronaldo because he is truly exceptional (but not without his faults) and demands to be indulged. The only one who really complained about the rotation – and actually started a lot of key games – was Tevez who is a brainless idiot who somehow managed to hoodwink the fans and milked it to the extreme by running about a lot, despite his inability to control the ball.
But I do fear we will not buy another striker or wide player… and if we have problems with Owens fitness then Wellbeck and/or Macheda will really need to step up. Plus Nani and Valencia need to both be exceptional and the evidence is not truly convincing they will.
And I still hate Owen; his monotonous slightly scouse voice, the brochure, the helicopter, the playing snooker at his childhood golf club, the unwarranted huge ego and this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqOxNspUPyE
July 22nd, 2009 at 14:25
@NicoQB: Yeah, agree with that completely. Its make or break for a lot of people this season.
July 22nd, 2009 at 15:02
Berbatov is class, with a good pre season and a second season on he will next season prove to the doubters what a real player he is, he is twice the player Tevez’s is already and everyone calls him a flop from last season even with more league goals
He will hopefully have a settled partnership next season probably with Rooney and we will see the best of him, we signed him on a four year contract not a one year one.
July 22nd, 2009 at 15:03
@Dominic: wow that has made me really fucked off at him but the thing is he was at his best (everyone is cocky at that stage) hmmmm enter RONALDO!! But i do agree with you about scholes. It also pains me to say it but tbh his main attributes are all gone now, his shooting is very bad now, his long range passes are no where near up to standard and he isn’t running a crazy amount like he used to. I also agree with you on the valencia and nani issue, they both have not been anywhere near the standard they should have been and they really need to step up for the team this coming season.
We desperately need macheda to been in tip top shape as well next season because as you said if owens fitness isn’t up to scratch and berba is plying shit then we need him.
July 22nd, 2009 at 15:16
@Anthony Los: Valencia hasn’t played for us yet, give him a chance.
You can add Anderson into that mix, he needs to really step up to the plater because Scholes and Giggs are not getting any younger, I feel the isn’t up to it but will give him another season to prove me wrong.
July 22nd, 2009 at 15:40
Oh my… now there are Gooners here!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 17:15
NicoQB I take your point about goalscorers and creators. But with Ronaldo gone this team done not have a pure goalscorer. I suppose you could count Owen but I think Fergie is planning to use him in a bit part role to ensure he is fit when it counts.
We do not really have any creative midfielders or goalscoring midfielders with Giggs and Scholes on the way out. So there is a big burden on Rooney and Berbatov to provide the GOALS and the creativity that this team desperately needs.
It is a big ask but with a lightweight midfield we need our forwards to be absolutely top drawer.
Berbatov is a great player but the question is whether he can step up and become the world class forward we need.
Rooney has less to prove but I still feel he is playing well below what he is capable of. He should be competing with Kaka, Messi and Ronaldo for world player of the year….he just needs to make that extra step up
July 22nd, 2009 at 17:18
My Top 5 most hated Gooners.
5- Patrick Veira, the spitting fouling Frenchman was not the big man he tried to come across when he addressed Gary Neville in the Tunnel and enquired if he was going to kick the poor little Arsenal players again………Roy Keane gave him the answer no, Arsenal lost the game and John O’Shea scored a cracker to add insult to injury.
5- Cashley Cole, the mouthy little fullback has always never benn very popular and considered one of the game’s greatest whingers, public opinion of him hit an all-time low after allegations of his cheating on wife Cheryl Cole came to light, but when he said in his autobiogaphy that he felt sick at being offered a mere £55k a week, he was less so, his book sold a whopping 4,000 copies.
4- Sol Campbell God I hate this twat, I am not Spurs’s biggest fan but being their captain and walking out of the club and signing for their biggest rivals is one of the worst things in football, but to some degree he did the same again with Arsenal, claiming he was going to move abroad when being granted a free, he signed for Portsmouth.
3- Martin Keown, Monkey head was arguably one of the most disliked player to ever grace OT, His disgraceful taunting of Ruud Van Nistelrooy was one of the single most tawdry incidents in football’s long and shameful history, cunt.
2- Thierry Henry, great player no doubt but my God he knew it, one of the most arrogant men alive with his stupid vain goal celebrations to his big game bottling a classless human being, ask his ex wife.
1- Ian Wright, a horrible little twat jumping two footed onto Peter Schmeichel or looking like he would be getting sent off in almost ever game he played in, a gobby little oik, sums him up really.
July 22nd, 2009 at 17:46
Looserpool drew 1-1 with Thailand..
Thailand goal was class I must say…
July 22nd, 2009 at 18:47
@colver: I think Carrick is a very creative midfielder. I think he’ll have a big season this year, feeding the wingers…. he can shoot too he just doesn’t usually get close enough to the goal to do it. Alongside Anderson he probably won’t either, but with Hargreaves he will be let off the reigns a little.
July 22nd, 2009 at 18:58
@spizzy: Scoring once every two games is the kind of form you expect from a “goalscoring” striker, not a “creative” striker.
Say someone plays 40 games a season.
A good “goalscoring” striker scores 1 in 2 games = 20 goals.
A good “creative” striker scores 1 in 3 games; but as a bonus has 10+ assists to show at the end of the season, which is exactly what Berbatov achieved.
Sure he did not score in the most important games, and I’ll agree that we’ve still to see the best of him, but please I’d like people once and for all to stop spouting nonsense like he was poor last season. He was not.
July 22nd, 2009 at 18:59
@Stephen: firstly i never stated the first point i only agreed to it but i mean in the sense of goals, i said he hasnt made a point in the perspective of goals. What did i say about anderson?
July 22nd, 2009 at 19:07
sorry stephen i misread your comment (regarding anderson). I thought you said you “cant add anderson to that mix”, but yea i agree with what you said (that i should add anderson). He really needs to step up, but ive always rated him highly because i watched him quite a lot at porto and he looked like he was going to turn into the next best thing. But something happened i dont know if it was confidence or something else but his game at united doesnt look anywhere near to him at porto.
July 22nd, 2009 at 19:09
@colver: I kinda agree. But I’m counting on our wingers to show some of their mettle. Nani has goals in him, that much is true. Given a full season, he can top 15 goals.
With the exception of defenders, if all players add two to three goals to their name we can compensate for Ronaldo.
Add to that Owen, Valencia, Obertan… and the youths..
Remember the time of Cantona. No real outstanding goalscorer, but the goals were well spread among the midfield.
July 22nd, 2009 at 19:21
@Anthony Los: I just hope he gets an early goal next season, the he could turn into the new Frank Lampard!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 19:30
@Stephen: hahaha lets hope so
July 22nd, 2009 at 21:28
*tumblewood*
July 22nd, 2009 at 21:40
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I just realised i said tumblewood!
July 22nd, 2009 at 21:43
http://www.tribalfootball.com/man-utd-boss-ferguson-planning-new-villa-bid-258617
Are we seriously sniffing around for another forward?
July 22nd, 2009 at 22:16
@m34ch: one that wants spain at that
July 22nd, 2009 at 22:45
@ all: why we r talking so much about arsenal…
they will be finishing definately top of sunderland but below fulham…
next season standing:
1> manu
2> chelsea
note : ( 1 or 2 point will decide…can go any way)
3> liverpool
4> man city
5> tottenham
6> everton
7> aston villa
8> fulham
9> ARSENAL
wat u all think mate
July 22nd, 2009 at 22:51
where is grognard
July 22nd, 2009 at 22:54
@m34ch: I would be very surprised if we made a move for villa, fergie just bigged up macheda and said he would be getting games this season, cant see him getting much games if villa came in could you, so no i would be extremely surprised to see villa come our way.
I think this all comes from the fact that guilleme ballague sees that villa hasnt made a big move this summer, notices madrid and barca are unlikely to get him, sees we have alot of money and puts two and two together and gets our name, honestly i think thats it. From what ive seen of ballague in the past hes a guy who does seem to have some inside info but he seems to come out with a new player going somewhere every day, i remember he was convinced fernando torres was headed our way in 2006, so much so he said he was house hunting in the area. The man is not like the twats who work for the rags here, but he links 40 players a day with moves so in the end a couple are bound to come true, but who knows he does seem to get a few right so maybe he has here.
But anyway if we are gonna spend big money on any position i hope its a CM anyway cos even from the 2 friendlies ive seen against average opposition our midfield was getting over run at times and if thats happening against avergae opposition think about how it will be against quality teams.
July 22nd, 2009 at 23:01
NicoQB yeah if our midfield could step up that would take the pressure off Rooney and Berbatov neither of whom is really prolific. I agree that Nani could score double figures a season if he is given the playing time and not shackled too much by Fergie. He has the selfish streak and over-confidence that Ronaldo had but I do not think Fergie has the same patience and I get the impression that if Nani takes too many shots, tries one to many dribble Fergie will bench him….which would be a mistake because while he is a bit of a defensive liability and sometimes loses possession too cheaply he is very very dangerous going forward.
Really if he had got more playing time last season he’d be in a better position to step up. But last season he went backward as Fergie got obsessed with defence.
July 22nd, 2009 at 23:05
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1201436/Poster-war-erupts-Manchester-City-fans-attempt-rile-rivals-United-cheeky-dig-Michael-Owen.html
Owen to get the winner at dipperside AND the local park AKA city of manchester stadium
July 22nd, 2009 at 23:06
@ matt: villa and aguero r such wonders that whenever they will be available ,any team will be willing to chase…
fergie has said abt macheda probably in context of talks about eto,huntelaar…
and more also when he chased benzema a lot,then at that moment had he forgotten macheda???
July 22nd, 2009 at 23:17
@owen: its manu utd not manu…
Amazing how this must be repeated time and again…
July 22nd, 2009 at 23:18
@owen: @NicoQB: typo.
I meant Man utd.
July 22nd, 2009 at 23:21
@colver: WE all agree about Nani. Plus he can also provide assists if he learns to release the ball at the right time.
July 22nd, 2009 at 23:21
@NicoQB : wat abt the predicted standing mate???
July 22nd, 2009 at 23:29
Off topic…I need some help please. Is last seasons review DVD out and available in the US yet? I can’t find a link. I can find it at the megastore, but only the Brit version which, I know from experience, doesn’t work in my DVD player.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
July 22nd, 2009 at 23:33
@owen: I would make an exception for aguero but for me villa, whilst being a brilliant player, wouldnt be worth it imo.
First the fee being spoken about at £45m, i have to wonder why in fergies own words he said £35m would be the maximum he would bid for benzema, and then he would change his mind and go to £45m for villa who imo is not as good for value player as benzema.
Second as with any foreign player, this price for a player who has only experience in spain is a risk, from all ive heard the man doesnt seem too enthusiastic about coming to england, i have to wonder why we would even bother for a bloke who would put us behind barca and real in the list of clubs he would want to play for aguero on the other hand is a massive united fan who im positive would resist the advances of barca and definitely real to join us which is the kind of players we should be going for and not mercenaries.
And finally villa for me is the wrong side of the age spectrum, 27 years old and a transfer fee of £45m for a 27 y/o is too much, i would offer that in a second for aguero who for me is a better player and also much younger but whilst i wouldnt be disappointed if we signed villa i would be upset the united team would overlook aguero for him.
Anyway im sure all this villa talk as i say is just bull.
July 22nd, 2009 at 23:47
@ matt : i agree with u and more bcoz strikers r really not required as per the squad…
we really need a gud mid fielder…
if alonso would not have been with liverpools ,then he would have a perfect buy for us or even mascherano …
any waywhom u think is better b/w those two…
for me its alonso and i like only him in their squad
July 23rd, 2009 at 0:12
@owen: he’s probably still in disbelief that we signed yet another potential striker rather than an actually good striker.
July 23rd, 2009 at 0:15
@Rahul: their so desparate for some transfer activity they have started hanging around UTD sites.
July 23rd, 2009 at 0:21
@ Will: mate i dont agree with you..bcoz be sure owen will score more than berba…
due to owen,we will score the same number of goals from penalty area but the problem will be to score from outside the box and from headers…
u know anyone from the squad who can do this…( please dont mention nani as i m serious)
July 23rd, 2009 at 0:23
@owen: Alonso is a great player and i agree i would probably have him over mascherano if we could ever have bought these 2. If alonso does make the move to real then unless they sign hernanes as has been reported then it may be title challenge over before it has even started, he is such an important player for them and one of rafas good buys. Sounds like mascherano is making sounds about leaving though and they would never let both leave, alonso from what ive heard is settled in england so i guess they would prefer mascherano to go over alonso. If there ever was any chance of getting alonso he would have been brilliant, quality player, he will probably end up at real which is good for us cos it weakens liverpool considerably.
July 23rd, 2009 at 0:26
@owen: Everyone moans that our playmakers play too deep. Alonso wouldn’t have solved that.
July 23rd, 2009 at 0:44
@tevez : i would have started alonso little behind carrick which would have benefitted carrick and to owen also as alonso is master of giving long passes also…
he dominates the half line mark very well….
alonso was the main reason behind liverpools good last season…
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:13
@owen: So you’d rather face liverpool without alonso than Gerrard?
For all the abberation of his very existence, Gerrard is a world class footballer.
And Alonso is way too similar to Carrick imho. We need a midfield dominator, and Alonso is not that.
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:45
@owen: Everyone’s also moaning that we don’t have a competent ballwinner in midfield right now. Alonso playing with carrick would result in no grit at all, certainly not solving this problem.
Alonso is a good player but the main reason liverpool finished the season strong is because benitez removed the shackles and allowed the players to have a right go and express themselves, and also because they have gerrard and torres.
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:27
@tevez: How many fucking LFC filth do we want in our team anyway?? They are infiltrating our ranks!!. Bastards!!
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:47
@Redrich: yeh #$%k that!!
Owen is it. No more. no less.
rather beat them on the pitch, than get them in a United jersey!!
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:29
@Natzca: When you say “beat them”, what exactly do you have in mind??
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:30
@Redrich: “beat them” as in get Vidic, to personally beat Torres and Gerrard into submission so they actually end up passing the ball to him instead.
and we could socre a few goals to show that they got beat on the sheet too
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:53
@[OPTI]Madschester United: Can’t wait until new season… I am getting itchy!!!
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:53
@[OPTI]Madschester United: Can’t wait until new season… I am getting itchy!!!
July 23rd, 2009 at 5:53
@NicoQB: That precisely why I said mate that Berba was no flop in the first season.. I mean like you said he is Creative striker so he is not going to give you 1 goal every 2 matches. If we are rational enough to think that then with around 14 goals and same amount of Assists he has done relatively well.
The Problem is that he came with hefty Price tag. But, we were holding out for far lesser than that only to be forced by Man City into it isn’t???
And to tell you frankly he does not decide at what price he wants to move. he only plays on the ground but still every now and then i keep hearing people say that he costs us good part of 31 mn and they expect more than what he has done from a 31 mn player…
My point is simple was it him who did decide the Price Tag of 31 mn???? The ANS is NO… Then shall we hold him responsible for it????
You all are smart enough to know the answer!!!
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:13
I’m pretty sure that goals will come, problem is I’m not sure who will score all those goals. someone will have to step up,because ronaldo single handedly won too many games for us.He is the reason we won last season,I remember the teams poor performance when he was recuperating. but truth be told rooney wont do it, neither will berba or owen, someone else will have to stand up and win those games for us.I think that’s where macheda will pay up for the gaffers faith. He won us two last year.
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:15
@NicoQB: I know i would…