Jul 30
Saha, Giggs and Agents, EVDS and Other Stories
Morning all from the Red Rants towers — er, I don’t think I’ve greeted anyone like this before.
Let’s quickly settle down to what we do best — rounding up the news stories of the day (and yesterday).
The Guardian speculates that Sunderland might be keen on securing the services of Louis Saha — presumably, to give their physios a good work out, and ensure that they always have their hands full and earn their chops.
Roy Keane has been very active (and arguably more successful) than last season in the transfer market. However, it must be said that he has been getting mostly mediocre players and, typically, players we already know awful lot about. Whilst, for a United fan, it could be worrying that he hasn’t managed to broaden the horizons of his scouting network much, he has at least gotten off the ex-United player bandwagon and moved towards signing players from the Premiership. But Louis Saha? Unless Keano can glare his way into making Saha fit, I don’t see the point of him trying to buy Saha.
Ryan Giggs had a pop at the mecenary nature of the modern footballer, where a player may jump ship for a ten grand. When Giggs says such a thing, you know you can’t dispute it because of how he’s conducted himself all these years. And ex-Arsenal man, Gilberto, couldn’t disagree either:
“When you win things, you achieve more than anybody else. You get better contracts, and more money, anyway. I can’t blame a player who wants a good contract. But I believe if they stay at the club, they can earn good money and do a lot for the club and themselves. So if they win something, it means more and they are more appreciated by supporters.”
Chris Eagles has moved to Burnley. I saw this coming anyway, although I believe he could have moved to a premiership side like Hull or Stoke or West Brom. We wish him luck and we’ll certainly remember his icing-on-the-cake goal against Everton to make it 4-2.
And finally, EVDS is still not ready to reliquish his No. 1 spot to Ben Foster and intends to remain our goal keeping mainstay this upcoming season. He’s a proud and hungry lad, and I think, unless Fergie deems it right (or if Edwin makes a gaffe or two) EVDS will continue being our No. 1 this season too. That said, I’m sure it must be really hard for Kuszczak to read in the papers that he’s not even being mentioned in the same breath as Foster — let alone VDS. Must be unfair on the Pole because he has played more games for United, and is a decent shot stopper.
Oh well, Foster is English. So all eyes will be trained on him this season.
Related items from Red Rants:
- Saha’s Injury: Who do we believe?
- Brum 0-1 Reds: Another Scrappy One-Nil Win
- In defence of Louis Saha
- Man Utd Stories of the Day
- Fergie, The Raging Bull | Terrified Vidic | More Quotes from Hargreaves
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@Tomas: I base my opinions on proof and many hours of watching a player and team. You may also do this but more than a fair share offer their opinion on a player based on what they read or based on having seen that player once or twice or on YouTube highlights. That infuriates me because I like to debate but I like to debate with someone who comes to the debate with a a lot of ammunition. If you do so, great, but I know of too many that just want to get under my skin or that just want to disagree or make their point without having and validity or proof behind their statements. I’m the son of a police officer. I like evidence and so if you see me being a bit of an elitist in conversations that’s because I am. That’s not intended as any disrespect to you. It’s just that people better be willing to back up their claims and their feelings about a given player based on some hard evidence and by sacrificing the number of hours I do in watching the sport that I love. Fact is people don’t always have the exact same knowledge and many people (not you) are frankly full of shit. The number of morons who have put down Huntelaar on this site having only watched him in one or two games for Holland is amazing. I on the other hand have watched him for two and half full seasons for Ajax and for Holland. I feel in cases like that I am justified to have an elitist opinion and therefore, people should be ready to to answer the claims. Like everyone, Tomas, you are welcome to your opinion on certain players from certain regions but with me you need to back it up with some real proof. You will not hear me say to much about players from regions that I don’t watch their football from. I rarely talk about Portuguese players, French, Brazilian Turkish and Spanish leagues etc. On the other hand, be prepared to back up you claims if you talk to me about players from the EPL, Germany, Holland, Italy and Argentina especially. Those countries are my area of interest.
I hope this helps you understand my mindset a little bit. I am not trying to offend people or infuriate them, but I do like to debate points and I expect that if someone challenges me on a player, he better know his stuff. If he does, even if I disagree with many points, I will have a healthy opinion of him because he has done his homework and we just differ on our views. But far too often blokes have come to a gunfight holding nothing but an umbrella. Now I’m sorry but they should know by now that the Grognard is going to have them for breakfast if they really can’t back their claims with some hard facts. As for you, I have always taken the time to read your posts because you come across as one who knows the game and who follows it with interest, passion and with studious interest. So if you see me challenging you, don’t get angry. Just back up your claim. I just hate it when somebody comes out of the blue and says something like “Well I disagree. Huntelaar has no mobility and hasn’t got the skills that United need.” Based on what knowledge and evidence is what I will come back and say. If they cannot prove to me that they are basing it on hours of watching the player and not on gossip , a few negative articles by other ignorant idiots, a game at Euro 08 and YouTube, then they deserve what they get.
Sorry for the long reply but I needed to explain to you why I am the way I am. I respect your opinions so in the future don’t get all defensive on me. Just try to reply to me by backing up some of your claims. Help me understand you mindset and what you are basing your theories on, thats all.
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@Just1n: We all got that mate. That’s why I was using the cold water comment on you. Cheers!
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@Grognard: I have put down Huntelaar, I am hopefully not a moron.
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@Stephen: Grognard says moron, so obviously he means it and we must accept what he says. But we must not call him a moron for having an opinion contrary to ours otherwise he’ll throw a fit and ask us to examine our heads.
He doesn’t seem to realise that this site is for opinions, whether informed or otherwise. He doesn’t seem to realise that if he’s infuriated at someone’s unresearched opinion then he’d be better off avoiding them instead of calling them morons.
But what can I do. I would only be accused of taking sides.
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@Just1n: Well, I suppose you didn’t get my sarcastic tone then.
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@Stephen: You certainly ARE NOT a moron if you have watched him enough times to make up your mind logically. We all have different tastes and feel we know what the team needs. That’s fine. However, if you haven’t watched him play more than a couple of times I’ll let you be the judge if you are a moron or not.
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@Red Ranter: Gee RR, that’s a creative way of getting your message across to me. Message received. Thanks. You know how we all value and live for uninformed opinions. We certainly love it when the media delivers them don’t we?
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@Grognard: Yup, only difference being that we can call the media morons, but not fellow commenters.
Informed or uninformed, I won’t allow someone to call another person over here a moron over an opinion — whether informed or with gut feeling.
You’ll have to deal with it.
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@Red Ranter: I never called a specific person a moron. There is a difference. So as I see it, it’s not name calling because I never directed it to a specific individual. So therefore, I think I have been accused unfairly as usual. So deal with it.
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@Grognard: I am pretty sure you don’t like insinuations and I’ve seen you get hot under the collar when someone does so. You can’t have it both ways.
But yes, if you don’t mind being referred to as a moron (indirectly) then fine, you are right.
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@Grognard: I have actually seen him play live if that counts, ps I only joking! my other half thinks I’m a moron!!
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