May 17
Some Love For Saha | Ole on Current Squad | Tevez
A very good morning to you all. Assuming you did manage to wake up on a Saturday morning, sober enough to read this.
As the days draw ever so close to the Champions’ League final, news comes from Moscow as police from the Russian capital outline their plans for tackling fan violence.
It’s good to see that local police are taking steps for the fans’ safety, but the ban on public drinking and the absence of outdoor TV screens will not sit too kindly with the travelling folk. That said, the club has clearly warned United fans against travelling to Moscow if they had no ticket.
Louis Saha has pretty much resigned himself to the reality that it could be his last season at Old Trafford. The Frenchman has been dogged with injuries throughout his United career and that reputation has made him legendary — only recently rivalled by Tomas Rosicky, who apparently is not even sure if he can recover from his injury. But while we’ve all been left frustrated, breaking several objects in our vicinity every time we saw a starting XI minus Saha — especially in games where his attributes would have helped greatly — a part of us still feels sorry for the lad. Today’s article on the Guardian features his feelings for the club and his own frustrations:
“I know it [the final] could be my last game, and I would understand if the manager went for another striker. It would be painful if he did and it’s painful even to talk about it because I love the club so much. But it’s been very hard for me this season. This is the best and biggest club in the world and the fact is that I’ve had very few chances. I do get miserable when I am injured and it’s very tense for my family because I want to play and I want to win things, so when that chance is taken away from me I can’t help but be in a bad mood. I’m 29 now and I wanted to improve again this year because that’s what you have to do at a club like this. But it’s difficult when you get injured. You are staying in the same place all the time.”
Think about it for a minute. Yes, he’s our balsa boy. Yes he seems at times a bit too fragile mentally to not be able to play through a pain barrier. But we can’t apportion the blame squarely on him. It’s not entirely his fault that he ruptures his tendon while walking his dog. While players blame injuries, Saha seems almost apologetic; almost telling us sorry for staying injured. Perhaps, he feels guilty for not repaying the fans’ and the manager’s faith in him by playing regularly. [Remember it was SAF who dumped Ruud in favour of Saha in what were early days leading to the fluid formation that United possess today, and it showed when Saha played alongside Rooney in the first half of the 06/07 season]
That said, I think he knows and everyone knows that the writing is on the wall as far as Saha’s United career is concerned. The only question is, who’ll be daft enough to take a chance on him.
Meanwhile Solskjaer has drawn parallels with the current squad from that of ’99 in terms of it’s depth.
Carlos Tevez is probably one player Ronaldo could learn from. While it may be a bit premature, considering the direction two other Argentinians’ careers took at United, him saying that he could sign today if a contract was put to him would only make him more endearing to fans. The lion hearted Tevez seems to only get better as the season wears on (just as he did for West Ham) and he’s played himself into contention for a starting place from his performances in recent games. What a player!
And finally — while this is old news — thanks to piss drunk Rangers fans who couldn’t keep a lid on themselves we won’t be seeing a victory parade from the lads anytime soon.
That’s all from me. I’ll see if I can catch a bit of the FA Cup action, and I am sure quite a few of you would be watching it for having a closer look at Aaron Ramsey, who we’ve been heavily linked with.
Let’s see how that goes, before we revert to discussing stuff in general… you know, like life, United and everything.
Cheerio.
Related items from Red Rants:
- Should Saha leave Manchester United?
- Preparing to beat Reading
- Why United Should Hold On To Smith
- 5 reasons why Tevez needs Manchester United
- Evaluating the United players who faced Chelsea
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Conor; I understand what you are saying friend but please understand where I am coming from. First off, I am Canadian. This is not an excuse this is a fact stating that I may look at athletes and sports in a slightly different manner than people do in the UK and rest of Europe. For example, North Americans laugh at footy for their so called “FAIR PLAY” rules and for their yellow and red cards. North American sports believe in fair play but they do not punish intensity or the odd dirty play in such a severe manner. A hockey player slashes or cross checks an opponent, he gets two minutes in the penalty box. He does it again and he gets another two minutes. In football he may miss one or three game depending whether or not it is a straight red card. The same goes for injuries. Players in hockey, US football for example are expected to play through some discomfort or pain. The term “suck it up for the team” comes to mind. Nobody expects a player to play with a serious injury like a knee and yet there are players who play with torn ligaments or cartilage all the time and then they get their surgery at season’s end. And then there are some who cannot go at all and they are shut down. Football (soccer) is a sport where the men seem to not handle pain well and cannot play with much pain anymore. I remember old school games where players like Beckenbauer played with a separated shoulder and others who played through concussions, severe cuts, broken noses, sprains, muscle pulls and even slight hairline fractures. A famous hockey player Steve Yzerman once played the whole playoff season with a hairline fracture of his foot. ETC ETC.
My frustration with Saha reached the zenith when he had come back from a long spell in bed and hurt himself in warmup just before a big match where he was needed. Right then and there I saw the player as a terrible burden to the team and a hopeless jinx. Was I wrong? Perhaps in the eyes of many of you I was but like I have tried with great frustration before, I was expressing my free speech and “RANTING” on my favorite blog. Then Conor writes a post telling me to think of the feelings of others and to watch what I say for fear of offending the mob. Conor can you hear yourself and are you serious mate? This is a rant blog where fans should be able to rant to their hearts content, is it not? Red Ranter has said so many times. So it is not I who doesn’t get it. My point is that if somebody doesn’t agree with my viewpoint fine, say so and move on or make an argument for Saha. Don’t act like I just broke into your house and violated your daughter for crying out loud. Just move on and ignore my rant if it’s not up to your moral standards. Me thinks you protest to strongly. Too many of you are making a mountain out of a mole hill by spewing your venom at me. AGP said it well when he wrote “Grogg must have some respect for Louis to even be irratated.” Very true. Saha is a highly skilled player and a player we could have used on many occasions this year. I am of the strong belief that many times we played 4-3-3 and 4-5-1 because Fergie didn’t want to risk using both his available strikers at once. Two weeks ago we had to go with Tevez alone because of Rooney’s injury. Where was Saha then when we needed him? Yet he shows up a week later when Rooney is fit to play. I seriously doubt that Saha couldn’t find the strength and courage to speed his return by a week after such a long lay off.
And Conor; I am not be a hypocrite at all regarding Red Ranter. When I have tried to “police” this site it has been after no response to a bad post came from RR. Figuring he was away from his PC I felt it important to stop something before it escalated. I was wrong and RR himself told me and put me in my place. And I respect him for doing so. But it is not the same thing. Some on this site are telling RR what the rules should be regarding the nature and theme that member entries should be. I may have taken the law in to my hands when the law was away from the station but some feel like a coup is necessary and they will tell RR what to do with his own blog? Not the same thing at all. Where I was mistakenly trying to help, some were ordering RR to change his policies and rules.
And to answer your final question Conor, I wrote what I wrote because I felt the need to rant to other fans about my frustration and growing dislike for Saha. Was that wrong? NO it wasn’t. I was ranting. This is a rant site. What’s the point of contributing anything if you are going to worry what kind of backlash you get for your comment? Sure I knew I would stir up a hornets nest but it was not for that reason that I did so. I just needed to rant and express my opinion. I don’t mind nor care if others disagree with me. In fact let them put forth their case and defend it like I did mine. I may not agree but unlike many who went against me, I’ll respect their views.
Dan; The only time I show disrespect to other viewers is when they get nasty with me. Disagreeing or telling someone you think they are wrong is not rude and insulting. Calling him names and claiming he is stupid or an asshole is. There is a big difference. Where I might go over the line is if somebody says something that I feel is racist. Then I personally feel justified to be nasty.
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What are you guys favorite United songs?
Mine is the Wayne Rooney one.
Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney,
He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney,
I saw my mate the other day,
He said to me, He saw the white Pele,
So I asked, who is he?
He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney.
All time, would have to be United Road though.
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Craig; Honestly mate, do you really believe a player gives a rats ass about what a few insignificant bloggers have to say? Not only don’t they care but 99% don’t even bother to browse the blogs. If I was making millions the last thing I would do is waste time on a blog commenting on what I do. I should think the tabloids was enough abuse or love for a day. Gets some perspective already. It’s really hilarious to read that kind of stuff from you. Why don’t you apply as a personal body guard to these guys if you think they need your protection from the stabbing and cruel jibes people like myself throw upon them? Trust me, they don’t need nor to they give a damn about your protectionist support. They are big boys who are overpaid by societies standards and they should be willing to take the abuse that is thrown upon them, especially when it is deserved, and even when it isn’t. They have a thick skin and perhaps you should to. If I was sharing my views on Sahah or Nani with you over a beer, I doubt you would feel so protective or defensive towards my views. It’s the context of a blog that makes you lose the true perspective of what is going on here. Just chatter upon like minded friends. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we disagree. So what harm did I really do? Did I make racist or sexual remarks? NO. I just showed clear frustration over one player’s inability to be relied upon and another’s sheer selfishness and stupidity to be red carded at a time when he was needed.
It was my right as paying fan to say these things. And yes I am a paying fan. I have to pay for the pay channel that shows their games and the licensed material I wear or use with the player’s names or United’s logo on them. How dare anyone try to censor me from my god given right. Shame on those who tried.
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Come on you guys, stop with all this hate, please.
I totally agree with all of you (yes all of you) I agree with you who say Saha has contributed to this club enough to be respected and I also agree with who say that hes a piece of crap player (when it comes to injury).
The fact that this is a rant site gives Grognard all the right to express whatever he feels in whatever way he sees fit, Im sure many of you guys said the same words more or less on other players but none of you got all the hate mail Grognard did.
What does bother me is I actually dont hear fans of other clubs talk shit about their players the way we do, thats something I failed to understand can someone help me here please?
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Grognard , you are the one that your dad is a former Panathinaikos player? You said some time you re Greek. So, where are you from?
Anyway, I totally understand you. You have a different view in many things but you re never an execrative. It’s better for you not to disagree with people who cannot pass by your comments…Mybe they re doing it on purpose so as to laugh with your probity to your own ideals.
Please , EVERYONE , respect your interlocutor.
We all love Mancheter but still we are not brothers. Everyone has a dofferent opinion so respect it.
YOU ASHOLES ! LOL
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Dan, regarding this comment u made – ‘when the hell did i say welbeck has world class potential, bojan, messi, rooney and anderson have world class potential, i said welbeck has potential to be one of the best in the world’
Surely if Welbeck has the potential to be one of the best in the world then he would then be potentialy world class would he not? Does that make sense?!
RedDevil you also said ‘Love ya Ronny! I knew he wouldnt leave until Fergie does! VIVA RONALDO!! You truely are the best!’
If Fergie retires this summer then he is off aswell then! I know he wont retire but just think when we lose the greatest manager in the game we also lose the best player in the world – double whammy.
Regarding all this stuff which has been made of Grognard, everyone is entitled to their opinion and its the same for him. I enjoy reading what he has to say and although I dont always agree with it(especially what he has said about Saha) he brings alot of passion to the blog and to be fair it would be boring if everyone was straight down the line and had the same opinions!
Now the talk has started about the champions league final i’d like to give my XI plus subs -
GK: Van Der Sar
RB: Brown
LB: Evra
CB: Ferdinand
CB: Vidic
DMC: Carrick
MC: Hargreaves
MC: Scholes
RF: Ronaldo
LF: Tevez
FW: Rooney
Subs-
Kusziak
O’Shea
Fletcher
Anderson
Giggs
Park/Nani
Saha
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nikos, i thought grognard was from Canada?
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Love him or loathe him, you have to admire the Grogmiesters honesty, I just hope he never gets a job working for the Samaritans.
Grognard, carry on ranting
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Frankie: Hargreaves can play RB and O’Shea can play across the back line so it would take two injuries from the back four before Fletcher was pressed into service. I would rather load my bench down with options to win a game rather than players to shore up a lead. Cast your mind back to a certain game in 1999, we were more than grateful that we had two strikers to commit from the bench that day.
As for Saha not coming off the bench and changing a game recently, true. But he wasn’t available for that bad spell of results we had in the last couple of months. However at the start of the season he came on and changed a number of games, including the home fixture against Chelsea.
I am not saying the player dropped has to be Fletcher but Saha provides an option no one else does and for me that gives him a spot. We may have done well enough without him but if had been fit and firing all season I doubt we would have had to win on the last day of season to make sure of the league. Regardless of his brittle nature his presence has been missed.
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im just wondering, if we win the champions league, we are automatically in the champions league next season right, so does that mean, that the premier league gets an extra CL place for next season? because we already had a champions league place for next season so does it go to the highest place team(everton)?
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in case some of our foreign bloggers dont know who the Samaritans are, they are an organisation set up so that people who have problems in their life can call and have a freindly and positive chat, can you imagine a distraught Louis Saha picking up the phone to talk about his injury problems only to find Groggy on the other end of the line.
Just kidding Groggy
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Dan: No, under the new rules in the case of the winners not qualifying through the league the fourth place team will have their CL taken away. This is to ensure no country has more than four CL spots. As a result there is no extra slot per se for winning the CL.
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Grognard; you did not answer my final, and most important, question. How was your meal?
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Grognard whatever you say mate, and whatever RR says OK?. I can’t be arsed anymore to get into it. I am so sick of lengthy diatribes to support your arguements!. We will never agree, so lets feckin leave it at that!. I do believe players appreciate positive criticism and encouragement, rather than negative commenting all the time. I KNOW THEY BROWSE THIS SITE, AND I HAVE EXPLAINED WHY?. Our mindset is different, and I will leave it at that!. You just keep on with the rants to your hearts content Grog, as peeps on here have encouraged. I will never apologise for not wanting to willingly offend, but as RR says, you have the right to say whatever you want, however you want – that’s life!.
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ah right, thanks JB, that would of been great though, can you imagine the look on sepp blaters face when he found out that half the premier league would be playing in europe next season if we where given an extra champions league place. classic.
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If Saha really is match fit, and is not going to limp off after a few minutes, he should be on the bench, end of story.
Since the chances of that are nil, then he’ll be left out, because you do not want unfit players on the bench in a crucial match which could well go to extra time.
With that in mind I think we should hold Tevez back as an impact sub and play a 4-3-3 with Park/Nani and Ronaldo either side of Rooney and a midfield of Carrick, Scholes and Hargreaves (although I have a suspicion Ferguson will play Fletcher because he seems to rise to the occasion in big games). The defence picks itself.
Depending on how the game goes we can bring Tevez on and switch to 4-4-2 if we go behind.
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Grognard is a legend here on Red Rants, so I say we should let him express his feelings and opinions about United just as anyone else. That is what this blog is about, talking about United. Weather it is good stuff or bad stuff!
Ryan- Yeah, I have always said that Ronaldo would stay at United at least as long Fergie is here. He is maybe the most important person in Ronaldos life and that is why I think he will stay for a long time. Probably 3-4 years, hopefully longer!
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Just a European update that is totally unrelated to this article.
Inter Milan champions of Italy.
Lyon champions of France.
Real “Scumbags” Madrid champions of Spain.
Italian teams to Champions League: Inter, Roma, Juventus, Fiorentina(HA-HA, no Milan!).
Spanish teams to Champions League: Real, Villareal, Barca, Atletico Madrid(a team I hope United meet next season.).
Well, thats all! Good night.
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Red devil – Legend my arse!!!!
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Infamous might have been a better choice of words
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NIKOS; I am of Greek parentage. My father was from Athens and my mother from the island of Crete. I was born in Canada but have my Greek heritage close to my heart, although I sometimes I confuse people because of my love of everything German. I appreciate your words and they are very true. We are all different and we have different views, I do not intentionally create something in order to get people upset or riled up. I just express my thoughts and lets face it, I have the guts to speak my mind and to say a lot of things others think, but never have the balls to admit in public. This is good and bad and it gets me in trouble on this site.
Conor; I had barbecue beef ribs and they were a little dry and overcooked.
Thanks to all of you out there that support my right to rant. Trust me it is very deeply appreciated. Ryan said it well when he claimed that the blog would be very boring if everyone had the same thing to say and agreed all the time. Sometimes a little fire and brimstone makes things a little bit more interesting.
RedDevil; Referring to me as a legend may go to my head
Craig; Fair enough mate. We clearly don’t agree and that’s OK. I respect your feelings on the topic even if I think they are over the top a bit. You must feel the same way about my comments. Don’t lose heart. I certainly respect your contributions to the blog and hope you continue disagreeing with to your heart’s contentment.
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JB – your a feckin British Legend!.
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JB – your a feckin British Legend!. But then, are you Irish, or Northern Ireland lol?.
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OK GROG, FAIR ENOUGH!. As long as we understand each other. We agree to torment the feck out of each other, with our different mindsets lol!.
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Craig: I do my best
For the record I am Northern Irish for my sins!
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O right JB, feckin love the Irish, north or south!.
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Craig; I am a legend. In my own mind.
Let me know when you start that Grognard Fan Appreciation Blog. 
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Grog – you foolish Feck, that will never be in my mind. Grog appreciation society LOL, I am into Man Utd appreciations soceitey. I don;t think I need to apologise about that. But you have your little cheerleaders on this blog, so whoopee eh?.
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craig mc: Count me in as one of the Grog’s ‘cheerleaders’ then. Yes he may have an abrasive way of getting his points across sometimes, and its not unusual for a lot of people, myself included, to disagree with his opinions (and sometimes his choice of language) from time to time, but you got to hand it to the guy: his honesty and integrity is admirable. I have always enjoyed reading his posts as they are usually very insightful and offer an refreshing and alternate viewpoint from most fellow (I assume) British-based United fans who post here. The passion he channels into his rants is tremendous and is straight from the heart, and that alone is one of the major attractions of this blog if I may say so. It would be a sad day if he left.
So Grognard: Don’t listen to what anyone says mate, keep on ranting to your heart’s content! After all thats why ‘RedRants’ is called that. Freedom of speech is a fantastic God-given right to have, and you exercise it beautifully.
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Nikos, cheerlead whom you feckin like mate!. I have no objection, and neither will any of the Britsh fans you quote I suspect. Honesty and integrity from Grog, well if you say so mate – who cares to argue the point – I don’t!. I am a Salford red and feckin proud of it!. Salford, Mcr and Trafford reds who live within spitting distance of the ground are a law unto ourselves. Altho the Irish and Scots Man U fans are feckin legends too, if you want to talk about legends. We are of the history of Man United, AND fed Man United or City since our youth. If you want to support Grog, I have no problems with that!. But I am on here to support every Man United player, although I appreciate honest comment on each ande every one of them. I am not interested on exalting any fan on a blog, but I defend your right to do so Nikos.
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Nino; Calling yourself Grognard’s cheerleader? That is like insulting yourself!
JB; we live in the same country, never new that. Belfast?
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Conor and JB, Im from Belfast too, get a few more of us on here and we will own this site.
Just kidding Red Ranter
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Conor, are you Irish, Belfast eh?. Well feck me, I never knew you were from the Emerald Isle – magic!.
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Conor: I was quoting craig mc, not intentionally calling myself a cheerleader (though now you mention cheerleaders, sexy images of Hayden Panettiere in a mini skirt are suddenly springing to mind
hehe)
craig mc: I think you’re mixing me up with that Greek dude Nikos who also posts here. I’m a totally different person mate
, unless you actually were referring to that guy… Also, what are you saying? That only people born in Salford are true Reds and the rest are worthless tossers? And what makes Irish and Scottish United fans so special? I didn’t know you had to be from a certain place or be a certain nationality to be a true United fan or care about the club…
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Fred the Red – never – hahahahaha!. Your Irish too?. Well, I am of Irish ancestry, so guess I am one with you. The Irish contingent on this blog is mighty lol!.
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Craig; It was NINO who sang my praises not NIKOS. Get that straight mate before somebody gets upset with you. And i think you are harsh if you think that my comments are honest with integrity. They are. Just because you don’t agree with them doesn’t make them dishonest. And for God’s sake the legend claim was a joke. “A legend in MY own mind” as opposed to the term “a legend in his own time”. Get it? It’s actually me making fun of myself. It means that I do have a sense of humor and that I can be a good sport about things.
It’s funny how as soon as somebody out their appreciates my contributions and sings my praises and makes a humorous comment like I’m a legend, and some jump down his and my throat. So NEWSFLASH! I’m not a feckin legend OK? Honest!
Conor; Why is somebody claiming to appreciate my contribution an insult to himself? Did you ever think that was not insulting Nino but insulting me?
Honestly, what have I done that gives you the right to hurt my feelings by alluding that people who respect my posts are idiots? I think you are making things very personal.
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Nice, lot of Irish eh? I have a fascination for the Irish too. I typically get images of drunk men when I picture the Irish, however the commenters over here have forever changed my perception of the Irish. Most of you lot on here seem very intelligent and sober.
And no one’s a legend on here, including me. So don’t waste your time cheerleading each other.
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craig mc, Ive noticed a lot of wisdom in your posts, must be the Irish ancestry shining through
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Way to go NINO! I was thinking the very same thing. Borders on territorial racism to me. Like Scotland and Ireland have sole ownership of Manchester United and we frakken losers from the rest of the planet have no say nor any right to comment unless it is to agree with the Irish contingent and kiss ass in the process. What a load of total shite. I have no problem with the Irish contingent on this blog other than their attempt to rule the roost and claim ownership of this blog’s mindset and rules. What is a poor Canadian scum like me to do?
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[Grognard]
The Irish thing was just light hearted banter here.
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Nino. forgive me mate, if I mixed you up with Nikos. Apologies to you to Nikos lol!. Nino for feck sake mate, I never call anybody worthless tossers!. What I was saying is that Salford, Mcr and Trafford reds are a special breed, together with the Irish and Scots United fans!. Certainly those who are born within spitting distance of the ground are locals, and yes Nino, we do consider ourselves to be fundamental to the history of United. As I said, we were breastfed United from the womb. Surely as a devoted fan of Grog, and his freedom of speech, I have the same rights to cheer the local British support of locals, United born aND BRED, and the Irish and Scots who are likewise phenominal. After all Nino, it is just my HONEST OPINION, and as valid as others who you so avidly support. So please don’t try and drum up something that does not exist in anybody’s mind but yours – Ok?.
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Grognard, it doesnt matter where you come from, we are all equals on this site, its just that the English, Irish and Scottish bloggers are more equal than the rest
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Craig: Yes it is your honest opinion, and I just happen to disagree with your honest opinion. No you did not call anybody ‘worthless tossers’ but from what you wrote, that was along the lines of what I assumed you were implying. Apologies if thats not the case. Red Ranter put it well: you are privileged to live so close to such a fantastic institution as Manchester United but you don’t need to rub it in the faces of us people who are not so lucky.
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JB:
It wouldn’t necessary take two injuries for Fletcher to come on. It depends on your starting line-up. My starting line-up would have Hargreaves in central midfield, with Scholes and Carrick. Chelsea must be confronted with a strong midfield. At some point (probably after 60 mins.) Anderson will replace Scholes.
But supposing Hargreaves is injured early in the game, and you bring Anderson on, what happens later on when Scholes is flagging and a fresh Obi Mikel has replaced Makelele? To be without a central midfielder to match up against Chelsea late on in the game could be fatal. These are the sort of permutations, SAF has to try and factor into his choice of bench.
I agree that a fit and confident Saha would have helped United enormously in the title run-in; and I would find a place in the team for a fit and firing Saha. But he has given no indication that the current model Saha is anything like the striker we’ve known. You mention Solsksjaer and Sheringham coming off the bench in 1999. But in 1999, Solsksjaer and Sheringham had been banging them in all season, whether they started or came off the subs bench, and they were in very confident mood(Sheringham had come off the bench to win the FA cup final a few days earlier, and Ole was, well, Ole). You can’t put the current down-beat and fragile Saha model in the same category.
You say that you would not necessarily leave Fletcher out.. But if you’re not going to do that, who are you going leave out to accommodate Saha on the bench? You need O’Shea as cover right across the back four. So if you keep Fletcher on the bench of the 4 other outfield players, which of Anderson, or Nani, or Giggs, or Park/Tevez (depending on which of those two you start with) would you leave out instead of Fletcher? One of that lot would have to go if you would make room for both Saha and Fletcher on the bench. So, JB, who will it be? As SAF has said, hard choices need to be made.
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[Fred the Red]
You’re wrong mate, in this site all are equal. And only I (and Ahmed) are more equal than the rest.
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RR – for feck sake boss – where did I put anyone outside of my local area down?. If that is the way you want to interpret what I said OK, but it’s still your interpretation. Do I not have the right to love the local, Irish and Scots fans, they are feckin grat people and fun to be with at Old Trafford. I am not seeking to insult anybody outside these groups, but hey you just read into it what you want as usual!. Who doesn’t feel a oneness with their own local community?. And I am of Irish and Scots ancestry, so of course I am going to love those folks!. My dad is of Scottish roots, and my grandmother Irish origin. I cannot help but love my origin!. RR do you not love your roots?. Does Grog and Nino etc not love their’s?. Grog you need to stop calling people racists all the time because they love their own ancestral people!. I don’t go on to you, for loving the Greeks, Canadians and Germans!. I understand why you would. And RR I am not going to apologise or answer to you for who I am and where I come from – SORRY BOSS!.
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just a wee joke from the book animal farm Red Ranter, cant remember who wrote it, think it was George Orwell, a man of your intellect would know that
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[craig mc]
You are right mate. No offence taken. I responded to the impression your post caused to me. And I did read between the lines. So apologies. I take back my comment.
It’s been a tough day with too much mudslinging on the comment section. Hence the over reaction.
Peace.
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Fred;
Red Ranter; While we may seem sober, really we’ve been on the whiskey all day long, it’s just our alcoholism has taken us so far that we now are immune to it.
Grognard; it was a joke. Jokes are lighthearted fun, you overreact. And no, don’t turn it on me, I am not missing the point etc. Then again this whiskey could just have gone straight to my head, who’s to know?
Anyone have any decent jokes to lighten the mood?
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