Sep 03
Some More BerbaTalk
Yes, I’ve coined that word and have applied for a copyright. Today we’ll indulge in a little more BerbaTalk©®, as I’ve never really penned my thoughts on the Bulgarian, post-transfer.
Reports yesterday suggested that we’ve indulged in some underhanded dealing with regards to Dimitar Berbatov. Ferguson personally picking Berbatov from the airport clearly showed how badly he wanted to sign the striker. But Levy does not see things that way with Spurs maintaining that they did not accept an offer for Berba even as late as 23:30pm.
Now I am not saying that we covered ourselves in glory over this summer long courtship. We may have done some things wrong or Levy might just be bitter. The fact is there is very little evidence to suggest that we’ve done things wrong (or 100% right, for that matter) and the result is Berbatov is our player.
But this game of brinkmanship was clearly not good for both parties involved. Spurs might think they made a healthy profit with their sale of an unhappy man, but they have regressed for all their purchase in the summer. Losing an excellent strike partnership is never going to be an easy act to follow up with a half decent forward line. They were happy when they sold Carrick at a ginormous profit, but have they ever got a settled midfield after his departure?
Similarly, we may think that we got an excellent player that could be the final piece in our jigsaw and feel happy about it. However, we also got our pants pulled down and got fleeced over transfer fees. Leave along Man City’s late push — if you’re going to leave it late, you are going to spend a lot, especially if you are Manchester United.
But all that money spent would be forgotten if Berbatov shows the form he showed for Spurs. Berbatov’s arrival erased the frustrations and pain of the summer. His addition gives our team the firepower to unlock most defences. His physical presence and tendency to stay more within the box than in midfield will give us more options.
I just think he’s a top, top player and I’d take him gladly. Now the big question is how Fergie will play him. The amount spent on him clearly means he won’t bench him. However, we paid about the same for Rooney and are reported to have agreed a similar fee for Tevez. On current form alone, Tevez should partner Berbatov in a 4-4-2. However, Fergie must not play Rooney out wide now that we have our man. I say this for the sake of Rooney’s future.
So what do you think about Berbatov? And how do you think he’ll be used in our lineup?
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September 3rd, 2008 at 10:22
4-1-3-1-1
with the fab 4, Hargo, Nani, Andi/Scholes, slave, Rooney/Teves, Berba
this is a possible line up. What do ya reckon? Attack attack attack!
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:32
To get the best out of the players we have, Rooney and Tevez should both play behind Berbatov in a 4-3-2-1 formation. The problem would be accomodating Ronaldo/Giggs/Scholes/Hargreaves/Carrick/Anderson/Nani in the 3 midfield places. It is to our advantage that almost all the players mentioned are flexible in the positions they play.
On the other hand, it is unlikely that Berba/Rooney/Tevez will all play in all games.
Having said that, now that we have an out-and-out striker, Rooney should not be utilised as a centre-forward/winger anymore. To get the best out of the white Pele, he should play where he does most damage. If we play 4-4-2, one of Tevez/Rooney needs to sit it out.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:53
I quite agree with RedB on that 4-3-2-1 formation. But i think choosing 3 out of Ronaldo/Giggs/Scholes/Hargreaves/Carrick/Anderson/Nani is too difficult. And don’t forget park and fletcher who’s our top scorer currently =) I would go with a 4-2-3-1 personally. The usual back 4 with 2 midfielders to be chosen between Scholes/Carrick/Hargreaves/Anderson/Fletcher, with nani on the left rooney in the middle and tevez on the right drifting in and berba with the lone striker role. Ronaldo will take over nani when he’s back with park and nani as backup attacking midfielders. So it will look like this -
————VDS————
–Brown–Rio–Vidic–Evra–
—-Scholes—-Anderson—- (Since Carrick and Hargo currently injured)
—Tevez—Rooney—Nani—
———Berbatov———
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:54
@RedB: I agree with the 4-3-2-1 formation, and it should be utilised in europe and those tough games against Chelski and co:
————VDS————-
Brown—-Rio—-Vida—-Evra
———Hargreaves———
—Scholes——–Carrick—
——Tevez——Rooney—–
———-Berbatov———-
We usually play a similar formation in Europe already and with Ronnie out, this is what i expect in our first CL game, with Anderson, Fletch, Possebon as midfield subs. Nani, Giggs, Park will be forward subs. Defence subs are Evans, O’shea, Gary, Twins and Kuszcy.
The formation is water-tight and we can also provide width with evra and brown down the wings supporting rooney and tev. Hargreaves would be a DMF, sitting almost parallel with Rio and Vida and will allow Scholes and Carrick to create and almost play a SS role when roo and tev take up wing roles. Berba just stays up there and pushes the defence line back so as to create space for rooney, tev, scholes and carrick to playmake and shoot.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:57
This may sound as a really offensive lineup, but I think its the best for most parts:
———VDS———–
Brown–Rio–Vidic–Evra
—Anderson–Carrick—
Rooney–Tevez—Ronaldo
——-Berbatov——–
Ronaldo on the left wing, Rooney playing a little more central, next to Tevez. United usually dont play static football, every player in just one position, so I think Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo will rotate behind Berbatov and confuse opponents.
I think Berba is an amazing deal. I dont care that he cost £30 mull, I am sure he will be worth it. He is the only “real” striker we have right now with Saha leaving, Campbell on loan and Manucho injured so I am positive that this will be really good. If he gets his debut against the Scousers, he will score, mark my words!
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:01
I guess we all have a rough idea with the formation that SAF’s gonna put. It’s either 4-3-2-1 or a 4-2-3-1. I feel either one will work too. Wat u guys think?
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:17
Wow.we have 3 strikers who each cost 30m.thats extraordinary.fergie is right when he says this squad is the strongest of all.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:18
As per our normal PL english comp formations, i’ll take our usual fluid 4-4-2:
————-VDS————
Brown—-Rio—-Vida—-Evra
—————————-
—–Carrick—————-
————-Scholes——–
Nani——————-Giggs
——-Rooney—————
————Berbatov——–
This is what I hope the formation will be, with Tev switchin for Roo and Berb as I think he can play both positions. Honestly, I put Rooney where he does the most damage and that’s in the hole, berb and tev can play here too but i’ll prefer them upfront and maybe during the game can switch just to confuse defenders.
Our wide players Nani and Giggs will provide width (obviously), with park and fletch providing backup, since ronnie is out. The midfield picks itself, Scholes and Carrick are our best partnership at the mo and it’ll take some improvement from Ando and possebon to displace it. Defence, same ‘ol story, with the same ‘ol backup.
This formation should be lethal with our front trio of roo, tev and berb able to switch btw games so as to keep our attack fresh and hungry.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:18
4-2-3-1 will work for me
EDVS
Brown Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Carrick Scholes
Ronaldo Rooney Nani
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:18
Since our next game is against the dippers, he can play JOS up front with KitKat behind him and we’d still beat the s*** out of them. That’s without the fact that Gerrard and Torres won’t play. As it is, we’re in for a treat, trust me.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:22
Team balance is more important than to try to accomodate three strikers in one team.rooney or tevez have to sit on the bench.in my opinion it should be rooney,he needs a kick in his arse.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:25
RedDevil, I think your formation is mouthwatering. It is bound to have chelsea or any other top european team quaking in their boots.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:26
@RedDevil: that is a pretty decent line-up
but i think we should stick with the 4-4-2, not just because to accomodate our swarming pool of talented midfields, but also to lessen fatigue-injury chances for our three forwards. that being said, rooney/tev/berbaman should share equal rotations. If one of the gets injured, man that’s a big blow now that manuchie is still sidelined.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:29
woops,sorry about the earlier comment, press the enter button too early. what i was saying is we should use either 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1…….. or whatever formation that will make sure we accomodate the large midfield options at our disposal in the best way possible
@ Redranter. my ajax thing doesnt allow me to edit comments(says i dont have enough permissions to do so).little help please? 2)how does one uploada picture to appear next to your name
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:39
———-VDS——— ———VDS——-
Brown-Vidic–Rio-Evra Brown–Vida–Rio–Evra
—-Hargo—Carrick– —Ronny–Andy–Nani—
Ronny—Rooney—Tevez —–Tevez–Rooney—-
——–Berba——– ———Berba——–
*With Scholes and Giggs
rotating with Andy and Nani
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:41
@john freakin’ o’shea: I think we should play with the team I posted there as our team on home games in the Prem, where we always go to attack, dominate and win. When we play teams like Chelski, Pool and Arse, and Cl games, I think this should be our formation:
————-VDS———-
Brown—-Rio–Vidic—-Evra—
——-Carrick/Hargreaves——
Ronaldo–Anderson/Scholes–Nani
——Rooney/Tevez————-
—————-Berbatov——
That way, we have fast and good passing players behind Berba, all he needs to do is to put those crosses into the net! We can counter with 5 midfield players and Rooney/Tevez + Evra. Its mouthwatering, I tell you!
P.S. The team and formation I used in comment nr.5 is what I use on FIFA 08 and will use on FIFA 09.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:43
My previous comment came out a bit weird so i’ll explain. The one on the left is Defensive and the one on the right is Attacking and the * is reffering to the attacking formation
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:44
im thinking off the top of my head here, and i know it may look a bit odd and lacking in wideness.. but if you think about the interchangeability (i have applied for the trademark on that!) of our team… it could work here goes…
Berbatov
Tevez Rooney Ronaldo
Carrick Hargreaves
evra vidic rio brown
VDS
you would get berbatov bagging the goals, the supporting three making a mockery of the best defences around and then hargreaves and carrick would be pinging (has that got a trademark?) the ball all over the park.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:44
Tevez should never be dropped to the bench. He is on fire at the moment. I think he would be an ideal replacement for Scholesy. He certainly tackles better than Scholesy right now. I think scholesy himself says he is winding up his career now. Tev is all over that midfield, and comes out with the ball from his tackles more often than not. He should be our offensive midfielder, not Andie. Andie is better Central midfield.
My team:- Fanfare PLEASE lol!.
Edwin/Ben
Wes/Raphael Rio Namanja Evra/Fabio
Hargo/Carrick
Ronnie/Park TEV/Scolesy Nani/Giggsy
Rooney
Berbatov/MAN-u-cho
Absolute World beaters LOL.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:46
@RedDevil: oh i see
yeah for big teams they should bring the 3 forwards for serious threat 
in fifa 08 this is my line up:
——-vds———
-brown–rio–vida–evra
-ron–carrick–nani/giggs
—tev——roon–
——berbaman—–
are you ready? FIFA09 on stores oct3:cool:
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:47
Wow, i didn’t know i would have such a hard time picking my stariting 11. I ask myself what is going to happen when every one of our players is fit? God have mercy on our rivals!
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:49
@Craig Mc: i agree tev should not be dropped right now, but we should not force ourselves to accomodate all strikers, we should have balance.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:52
@DK: I dont want God to have mercy on our rivals.
I want him to let us burn, mark for live and then kill our opponents(not die, just make them pass out from dissyness(TM, RedDevil 
) our forward line will give them.). THIS IS AWSOME!!! 
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:55
our team is already strong on paper.
manchester united > chelski+arse+lpool
now who would disagree on that?!
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:58
Anyone consider just how feckin fortunate it was for us that Shitty did go in for Berba at the last minute. He wouldn’t have been given permission to come to Manchester otherwise. Levy says that they let him leave for Manchester to go talk to Man Shitty. They didn’t bargain that Berba’s agent would phone Fergie to tell him they were heading into Manchester airport. So while Mark Hughes was still on the golf course, Fergie was speedin to the airport, picking up Berba and disappearing into THIN air, whisking Berba & agent to God knows where. Spurs meanwhile were frantically trying to locate Berba/agent. I’d say the agent was the devious little GIT in all this, cos Fergie would not have got his opportunity if the agent hadn’t phoned him en route to Manchester.How glad am I Man Shitty went in for him, and got him to Manchester - jokes on them though!.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:00
@John freakin o’shea
Man I cant wait for ‘it’ to be released but i have a question though. since team lineups of previous versions only included players transffered before 27th august, will FIFA 09 follow this heritage or will it be upto date
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:02
@Craig Mc: Shitty - Once a joke, always a joke!
Manchester United > Manchester City
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:03
ahh come on guys, everyone knows pro evo is gonna kick fifa’s arse, same it does every year.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:05
@Nelson Otieno: FIFA 09 comes out 3rd October. FIFA 08 and FIFA 07 came out September 15th or sumthing. FIFA 09 comes out so late cause the transfer window this year was until 1st September. They sould have updated Berbatov, Robinho, Riera and players that moved on the last day. So, I wouldnt worry, I just look forward to when it comes. Ive heard its great.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:06
@Will: preach that gospel man!! Pro evo rules!!! Fifa’s just a wannabe…
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:08
@Will:
Was that meant to be serious or a joke. Real: 
Joke: 
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:11
all fukn hippocritical cunts..wish calderon did the same to ronaldo,,wudve bin fun
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:13
@Red Devil Yup its great. I cant wait to white wash fake madrid and put one over tottenham. i’ll make sure berbatov scores
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:14
@RedDevil: haha, i KNEW this would start if i said that, but ok, so pro doesnt have licened kits (until you d/l the patches) its a vastly superior footballing recreation.. pace speed and gameplay are much more realistic, plus this years will have a fully licenced united team…. ive played pro since it was ISS and ive played FIFA since ‘97 and i have to say whilst fifa do the whole “ooo look a new way to fuck around with the right analogue stick” each year, pro has come on leaps and bounds (with the exception of lasts years abomination) and so it was real what i said. and i think a lot of people will agree.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:16
HOOO-aah, Strider, do I detect a note of bitterness there mister?. Go have a few beers man, your sorrows will soon turn to euphoria. Well, it’ll make you feel better anyway I suspect.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:17
:(..
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:20
I believe that Tevez can easily make the transition to an offensive midfield player. He has the lungs, the work rate and the skills to be a superb midfielder. That will make possible to play Rooney and Berba up front.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:21
By the way Strider, IF Real M could have done us they would. They did just about every dirty trick in the book to get Ronnie. So no, as the author of this article said, we may not have been whiter than white in our attempts to get Berba. Then, it cannot be proved can it, just like Real M.s couldn’t. Not too concerned though, because nobody in football is whiter than white, with all the money being flashed around anymore. Spurs are just as bad. It’s dog eat dog Strider, we may not like it, but is is a fact of football life mate!.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:23
and at least am happy the commentators have changed(at least one of them). but i still wish allan parry
was featured( i know he’s a fuckin liverpool cunt but still has a great voice)
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:26
Will i totally agree with ur formation. Carrick and Hargreaves are the 2 most capable midfielders that can battle any team as well as create chances. Though both are defensive midfielders, i guess that it can work perfectly. Hargreaves will win the ball while Carrick creates it. Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez will do all the ripping apart with their movements while Berbatov will either bang in the goals or create those moments of magic and slip in one of the attacking trio.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:28
PES 2009 vs FIFA 09!
Rooney looks like a pig and Kuzczacks face aint even real. In PES, the players look amazing, but the gameplay sucks.
FIFA is the best if you ask me. PES dont even have real kits for the Prem, United kit is like we were playing in the 50s! You can hit 50 yard passes just by standing still, shoot a volley that looks like its going to the right corner flag, until it curls to the left flag, and in the end it curls to the right flag again. I mean, what the fuck?! The players look great, I have to admit that. Most of them look completely real, unlike in FIFA where Ronaldo looks like Michael Jackson.
FIFA 09 looks different. You can see in the vid that Rooney looks almost the same now, in EURO 2008 we saw that Ronaldos looks is almost taken from reality into the game and Fabregas doesnt look like a girl that has made an unsuccesful operation. The players look better, so that is a major bonus. The gameplay in FIFA is amazing. It looks exactly like the real world, cause you cant hit a 200 m/h shot by just standing still, you have to move some steps first. You need to have the perfect body.shape when you cross if you want it to be a good one, and the skills are breathtaking. Now that Ronaldos free-kicks are known, he hits them the same in the game as in the real world. You can pass the ball to a running player when you have a free kick now(Im gonna use that with Rooney and Scholes) and you can jump over the ball. PES was the best game until 2007 when you couldnt edit players anymore. You cant make your own teams, your own kits and you cant make new players, you have tp “download a piture”. And when you do that in the game, the game is so slow it takes 80 mins to finish what is supposed to be a 10 minute match. PES have stopped going forward, unlike FIFA who just gets better and better for every year. I am looking forward to FIFA 09!
If Groggy sees that we have started another FIFA vs PES argument here, he will probably start comment again.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:32
New Ronaldo free-kick tecnique on FIFA 09. You guys have to admit it looks real.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:34
Nice take on the Berbatov transfer, Craig. I can imagine a phone call
Levy: “Berbatov where the hell are you?”
Berbatov: “Funny thing. I went off to Manchester like you told me to and was waiting for City to pick me up from the airport. But they never came. Then I got taken ill so a kind Scottishman took me to the hospital then when they doctors said there was nothing wrong with me he asked for my autograph.”
Levy: “Shiiiiiiiiiit”
Until Ronaldo comes back I say we play all three and then we can work out some sort of pecking order for when Ronaldo returns
Something like:
EVDS
Brown Rio Vidic Evra
Carrick
Anderson Fletcher/Hargo
Tevez
Berbatov Rooney
Rationale:
This is a narrow diamond formation. Carrick holds and in Anderson and Fletcher/Hargo we have dynamic, energetic midfielders who can cover the gaps that the formation leaves and prevent us getting stretched. Tevez plays as an attacking midfielder who wins the ball, runs into space and then plays in Rooney or Berbatov. The full backs bomb forward giving us width.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:36
@RedDevil: yep, infact this is a cunning ploy to lure him back here… i mean if your watching ..GROG where are you? please come back.
anyway forget pro evo and fifa.. for me its im on setanta sports.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:39
@Will: I played PES a lot before, more than FIFA. I remember I created my own team, United kits from the 90s and scored lots of goals on volleys from corners. It was great! But when PES 08 came out, I wondered: “Have to creators lost their fantasy?” Tha game sucked, I scored my first goal with Rooney running(and just running) from the halfway line to the 18-yard box where I rounded the keeper by still running and then putting the ball in the net from a dead angle. It was fun if you like to score simple goals and not wanting anything challanging, but I am not like that. I like challanges, FIFA is unpredictable and I have never scored a goal just by running in the game. Sorry, but PES sucks real bad now.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:41
@Will: I bet Jose and Rooney will take the crdit for Berbatov joining United. They won that gameshow and gave the money to Fergie!
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:44
@RedDevil: haha too right… i do agree with you that pro evo 2008 sucked donkey balls but this year (fingers crossed) it will be back to its supremeness, but ask yourself this… would you buy fifa if it didn’t have the licences?
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:48
@Will: Probably yes. Because the gameplay is very good and the players are acting like in reality… so my answer is yes.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:52
Anymore thoughts guys?
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:53
@colver: Where will you put Ronaldo? I think after what Fergie showed this summer, Ronaldo will probably be the first player on the team sheet.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:56
@ RedDevil that clip looks fuckin real i had to replay it over and over.damn i just cant wait for it
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:59
I think if the team do okay in the goals departments now we have Berba to help, Fergie won’t rush Ronnie back at all. He will probably bring him back more gradually. Then again, I could be wrong lol.
September 3rd, 2008 at 13:04
I would likke to see 4-3-3 with Berba through the middle and Rooney and Tevrz either side, doing the leg work.
September 3rd, 2008 at 13:08
we have new assistant manager …
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB069%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=6617460
September 3rd, 2008 at 13:10
John Freakin O’Shea, I see what you mean about having balance with all our strikers mate. But if Tev plays in the attacking midfield role, similar to the one Lampard plays at Chelski, I think he get get more goals than that position as Frankie boy does for the enemy. Scholesy as I said is winding up his career. So we could accomodate Tev, the Roon, and Berba.
September 3rd, 2008 at 13:12
@man utd - Aleksandar: not good, that means less latin talent and more english…
September 3rd, 2008 at 13:12
@man utd - Aleksandar: Oh God, wish we would appoint a a decent foreign coach, with some insight into Euro/world football rather than a “job for the boys” merchant.
September 3rd, 2008 at 13:13
MUTV breaking news. Mike Phelan has been appointed Fergie’s right hand man, and Rene Meulensteen first teem coach. Looks like another money saving exercise by the Reds.
September 3rd, 2008 at 13:14
Oh sorry, already broken on the blog then - lol, didn’t see it. Open your eyes Craig.
September 3rd, 2008 at 13:26
with the assistant manager being handed down to people already there.. i think we’ll be seeing giggsy joining ole in the coaching staff next year.
September 3rd, 2008 at 13:51
@Craig Mc: Liverpool have been shitter than usual since Sammy Lee took over as AM. Sometimes big changes can be bad.
@RedDevil: Fifa is good until you get near the goal and you can’t take it around the keeper or if you take a shot from 8 yards and the keeper turns into superman to stop it. If you found PES that easy put up the difficulty. That said last year was rubbish but ever since I played PES 3 every edition bar last years was better than FIFA
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:00
our team is strong on paper and on the pitch
Manchester united > chelski+lpool+arse
and shitty will never ever ever be in the same caliber as united.
now who would disagree on that?
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:05
Liam, why did you personally direct your comment on Sammy Mc, L’Fool changes etc to me?. I was just reporting the changes were happening at United, because I saw it on MUTV breaking news. I never said I was in favour of those appointed, or that it was a good thing. In fact, I was looking forward to a very good foreign coach coming in. I think United only did this, because they have to tighten their money belts, after Tev and Berba transfer money layout this year. Do you just have my name on your brain Liam - LOL?.
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:15
Dan: That wouldn’t really be my problem with the appointment. My biggest concern is, that being part of the club for 20 years, Phelan will be too ingrained in the clubs current methods and a yes man to SAF. I’d rather someone come in from outside (the club and possibly England) to bring new ideas into the club. Still he deserves his chance and Rene’s promotion is no bad thing.
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:21
you said it was a money saving scheme so I was pointing out that it hasn’t helped one of our Rivals to bring in a (I assume) big money AM. Btw I was obsessing about you all day I just couldn’t wait to get home so I could piss you off. This rivalry we seem to have developed is definately the most important thing in my life right now
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:24
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:28
I reckon we promoted Phelan because an outsider or foreign person is going to be made Manager when Fergie leaves. That new person will need a solid right-hand man who has been with the club for a while, knows everyone and everything about the club, can act as an intermediary btw the new manager and background staff, and most importantly, will not be too bitter about not getting the manager job.
I really hope Carlos would succeed SAF and maybe this stint as Portugal boss will be his work-experience. National team coaches usually don’t hang around for long with the national sides and hopefully he proves he is good enough while there and will come back and take over the reigns from SAF.
Continuity is what I think has made Manchester United so successful over the past years. We have people/former players who genuinely love the club, occupying top positions and since they always want what’s best for the club, there are hardly any dubious scandals or decisions that will compromise our teams performances. Maybe that’s why I want a person who has been successfully associated with us in the past, and out of the list, Qeuiroz looks the most qualified.
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:31
I really think Fergie should NOW(bf Ron returns) start playing a 4-2-3-1 with Scholes and Carrick(or Anderson or Hargo) behind Fletcher, Rooney and Tevez. Berba plays alone upfront, but we all know that he is also very fluid position-wise so it might end up being a 4-2-4-0 almost
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:33
anyone seen this!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:33
@Red Ranter
“However, Fergie must not play Rooney out wide now that we have our man. I say this for the sake of Rooney’s future.”
I agree red rants we can’t play rooney out left we can’t play tevez there either. Question is can you play all three at once?
My team
————VDS———-
—BROWN—–VID—–RIO—–EVRA
——–CARRICK——-HARGO——-
—RON——TEVEZ\ROON——NANI—
————-BERB—————–
Plenty of options for SAF considering players on the bench but tevez and rooney are competing for the same place IMO for my ideal formation.
Sure you could fit Tev or Ron on the left instead of Nani but thats square pegs for rounds holds.
Never thought I would say it but at the minute I would play Tevez behind berb instead of rooney.
What would you suggest then if you cant play Rooney out left???
@Sunny:
“Team balance is more important than to try to accomodate three strikers in one team.rooney or tevez have to sit on the bench.in my opinion it should be rooney”
Sunny I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there. Totally agree
England managers have been/are being criticised for doing the exact same thing alot of people on this site are suggesting to do.
Team balance is what is needed.
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:37
On the lighter note huntelaar says a second grade European team, put up an offer of 32m for him which he turned down!!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:38
Liam, you get crazier by the minute :lol:, you little obsessive you
. If you like pissing people off as much as I do, then I wouldn’t put it past you :evil:. Anyway, I see why you made the post now 
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JB - I feel exactly the same as you said in your post mate. I wanted someone new, preferably foreign, and who could bring in new ideas and be equal with Fergie, if you see what I mean. I just got to thinking, do you think United see this as short term thing, because in 2 seasons they will be replacing Fergie
, and whoever they bring in, will want his own people with him anyway!.
September 3rd, 2008 at 14:49
R -
, I think Tevez must have been about 16yrs old there, and bloodied the nose of a lad twice his size. He really can get into it, can’t he?. Now he just wants to throttle people 
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September 3rd, 2008 at 14:52
I wonder if the 2nd grade European team that put in the offer of 32 million for Huntelaar was Man (moneybags) Shitty?
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September 3rd, 2008 at 14:56
Curbishley has resigned for the Hammers. We wont see anymore of him in the near future.
September 3rd, 2008 at 15:03
Red Devil if you read carefully the team and formation I selected was to be played UNTIL Ronaldo returned. The idea was to give all the strikers game time in positions that they were used to with the intention of getting a better picture what the pecking order is.
Once Ronaldo returned we’d probably play 4-2-3-1 with Berbatov spearheading the attack and Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez/Nani behind him.
I don’t agree with the Phelan appointment unless Gabriel is right and the idea is to get a solid Brit high up in the club in preparation for a foreign manager. Really though I think we will suffer without someone of Quieroz’s calibre to help with our tactics and communicate with the foreign players. We need a Latin presence in the club.
September 3rd, 2008 at 15:38
@Craig Mc: funny thing is the tall guy couldnt land a single one, I wish he was steven gerrad.
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September 3rd, 2008 at 15:48
Many fans were saying that the cause being rooney playing shite or out of form or lacking that clinical finishing ability is due to the fact that he was playing out of position.now guys are saying tevez should play as an attacking midfielder.why cant we have 3 strikers?why do we have to convert our strikers into midfielders?.
September 3rd, 2008 at 15:58
@Craig Mc: The Offensive midfield position and central midfield position you talk about are the same thing. Tevez is the closest to playing in a ‘free’ attacking midfield position in our team right now. Andy plays central midfield.
My formation; 4-4-2:
Brown Rio Vidic Evra
Ronaldo Hargreaves Scholes Nani
Berbatov Rooney
I love tevez, but berbatov and rooney just have more about them. They have a little bit extra. It’s a shame tevez doesn’t have genuine pace. If he did, i would definitely find a place for him in my strongest eleven, but he doesn’t, so i didn’t.
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:01
Pro evolution soccer is better and much more realistic than fifa.i dont care about licences.whats the point of licences and staff if i dont enjoy the gameplay?
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:18
Pro evo is better. Fifa tried to be more realistic, but ended up being slow and frustrating to control. PES is faster and more entertaining.
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:23
pes is for students.
Also, city made a £50 mil bid for Torres. The crazy fucks.
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:26
@Sunny: when is the last time you played fifa? all that stuff you say WAS true until last year. fifa was better than pes hands down. only blind PES fanboys would defend it.
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:38
I am not a blind pes fan.i played every fifa game since 1998.whereas i only played last 3 pes releases.pes2008 is not a complete piece of work,the original piece is yet to come as pes2009.
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:48
fifa all the way.
even i hate how ea deals with us pc gamers
berba 30mil=30 goals
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:49
i played fifa08 and even though its a huge improvement,even then i didnt enjoy it as much….also the pes just introduced a new engine…the next release should feature a superior game
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:50
It is reported that shitty are going to make a 60mil berba bid in january!!! How crazy is that
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:51
@Sunny: We will see. Hopefully, cause its fun to have different options(like Fergie and Scolari, unlike Wenger and Rafa
). I enjoy playing FIFA, but I like PES too. I am more of a FIFA fan though, cause its more realistic, unpredictable and entertaining. Hopefully PES 09 is a good game so I can play the other when I get bored of the other(you get what I mean?). Its good to have options, unlike last year when FIFA 08 was the only game to play. Still, I didnt get tired of it and bored so that is why I think FIFA is better. I played 4 games on PES 08 and stopped playing. It was torture, and I WANT MY MONEY BACK! 
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:52
how much would a berba shirt cost me? any ideas?
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:53
@john freakin’ o’shea: You have Xbox 360? Or PC? Or PS2/PS3? Wii?
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:53
Oh and by the way Fifa Rules
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:55
@john freakin’ o’shea: £51.94
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:56
FIFA ALL THE WAY!!! Everyone, look at @RedDevil: comment
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:57
[AIG] = (Sir)Alex Is God
September 3rd, 2008 at 16:59
@RedDevil: i only got a high end pc and a ps2
September 3rd, 2008 at 17:00
@RedDevil: oohh £51.94, gotta save now if i want myself one of those
September 3rd, 2008 at 17:01
@Nelson Otieno: Regarding editing comments, you can do it a couple of minutes after posting a comment. After that you can’t.
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September 3rd, 2008 at 17:04
@john freakin’ o’shea: I have to ask… Is FIFA on PS2 the same as on PC? I have Xbox and PC, but I only buy the Xbox version of games.