Aug 27
Some Words on Vidic + Fabio’s Cracker + Berbayawn
Sometimes honesty can be misplaced and ill-advised. Most of what Vidic said was true. Perhaps he could have been less honest about some of the stuff he said. Or perhaps, should we applaud him for his honesty?
Who knows, really! But what irks me is the tone adopted on some of the broad sheets.
Let’s consider this from the Telegraph with the headline: ‘I will not stay with United, says Vidic’ Here are the quotes:
“I will never stay to live in England, that’s for sure. You get only a brief glimpse of sunlight before it’s all cloudy again. The winters are mild, but in summer the temperatures seldom go higher than 20C. And it rains, rains, rains.
In future, I would like to test myself in another top league. I’m thinking of Spain. At least there will be no reason to complain about the weather. In England, they say that Manchester is the city of rain. Its main attraction is considered to be the timetable at the railway station, where trains leave for other, less rainy cities. It’s not only the weather that I’m not happy about here. In Russia and Serbia the people’s way of life is similar. In England it’s totally different. Here they just don’t have time to feel the joy of life. Throughout the week they all work so hard. They only talk to people at lunch break. Then in the evening they come home and watch the telly, so they can get up early for work the next day. The only time to meet friends is at weekends, but for football players it’s the busiest time of all. It was much easier for me to adapt to Russia than England. In England I had no one to talk to. The first month was especially hard. I lived alone in a hotel, which I left only for training. I thought I would go crazy inside those four walls.”
Right, so the Serbs now think the English weather to be unbearable. What tomorrow? Fish finding it difficult to breathe in water? A baby finding it difficult to cry? Robots finding it difficult to add two and two?
But that said, it is perfectly understandable for overseas players to find the British weather inhospitable. But him publicly speaking about his desire to play in Spain seems a little daft, considering the pain our club was put through during the summer. It’s not that he shouldn’t be honest about what he’d like. But the timing seems poor. Our next investment, it would seem, would be to buy one PR bloke for each player.
But it must be a lonely life for a footballer these days eh? They have to go for training daily, then come back home tired and work on weekends playing those games when the whole world is watching. All they have would be a few days in an Olympic sized pool with a host of women ready to plunge themselves onto their fairly adequate bodies. And perhaps, for the speed crazed ones, a Bentley to let them while the time and get by with life.
Add to that the dreary weather of Manchester, it must surely be hellish life for a footballer, no?
Meanwhile, a young Brazilian — who should be alerting the scouts of Real Madrid so that they can come circling when he becomes a star — was in the news yesterday as he scored a cracker of a goal against Chelsea reserves. United reserves sealed a come from behind 2-2 draw, thus maintaining Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s unbeaten streak. Man United youth have a good match report, as always. But if you are interested in the goal, then sit back and watch below: (RSS feed readers, click through to watch the video)
And finally, the Berbatov saga rumbles on as I yawn my Berbayawns. Tottenham have apparently agreed to sign Roman Pavlyuchenko with only paperwork needed. It’s not sure if he’s a replacement for Keane or Berbatov. But either way, he would be better than Darren Bent, surely?
Daniel Levy seems to like dicking around. So we’ll have to continue to wait. Or perhaps, yawn?
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Liam, Gabriel, UNLIKE Andrei who doesn’t get it, you saw straight away that Craig Mc was once again just winding people up, trying to stir up another hornets nest. Some people are way TOO serious.
Ronaldo MILES better than Rooney.
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Viva Ronaldo, Viva Ronaldo,
Better hurry up back, cos we’re playing like cack,
Viva Ronaldo.
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@Viz: if we were going to take a chance on a washed up Brazilian I would prefer Adriano. He is somebody who would be world class if he cleaned up his act
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Where’s the legends of this blog?. JB, Fred the Red, Stephen, that understand the Craig Mc tease machine, and go with the flow.
RR will probably be on soon to rap my knuckles, so fret not Andrei.
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@Craig Mc: How come im not on that legends list
Hehe.
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OK i was very blunt. It was a joke (the modric bit, not the carrick bit). Sorry i called him shit, i should have been more constructive. I see carrick as an average player in a good team, where he gets away with it as he is playing alongside great players.
I feel carrick was brought in to fill a gap when we never got john obi mikel to play for us and failed to sign hargreaves. Centre midfield is in transition at the moment, with anderson developing. Carrick is lucky he is playing and i doubt very much fergie finds it ideal.
Carrick is not united quality. As a playmaker, he is not at the same level as the other players in the top teams in the world. Scholes is twice the player he will ever be. Scholes remains our playmaker, the architect of our team. He is still the most intelligent player in england, and really with his age he needs to be playing as a deep-lying midfielder now as he doesn’t have the legs to get up and down the pitch. Until scholes is finished i would gladly take him over carrick in carrick’s natural position. He is a far superior player and when he retires we will need to replace him, carrick’s not up to the job. For me, he isn’t composed enough. Sometimes he plays good quick passes into the strikers, but he doesn’t know when to slow a game down and keep possession. Hopefully possebon comes good as i have been very impressed with him. Veloso at sporting lisbon is a good playmaker. He does not have the defensive qualities he is made out to have but he can boss a game and is very composed.
From a defensive point of view, carrick has quite a good reading of the game and he makes some good interceptions, but he’s not at the level of a hargreaves or even a mascherano, who i think is overrated. Defensively, hargreaves is fantastic and makes carrick look really inadequate.
Anderson will be a much better player than carrick. In future, he will be the driving force of our midfield. He is very positive – direct and always looking to go forward. Compliment this with someone who can slow the game down and who’s always calm and composed. That’s not carrick for me. He will do for the time being and then he will make adequate back-up, but he’s not the quality of player manchester united should settle for.
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@Craig Mc: Rooney and Ronaldo are like ying and yang, 2 sides of the same circle etc. They compliment each other beautifully. Rooney does all the donkey work and Ronaldo is there to add the style and glossy finish. Its because of Rooney that Ronaldo has become what he is IMO. However they are always adding new things to their repetoire’s to make it a more complete circle. Beautiful
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@Liam: Rooney does none of ronaldo’s work. Rooney does work he doesn’t have to and if he was to just stand up front and not bother when the opposition has the ball you would see no difference in ronaldo’s play. The rest of the midfield cover for ronaldo, he has a free role. He uses his energy when we get the ball and conserves it when we don’t. That’s his job. If anything, rooney should try and copy ronaldo here.
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@Liam: its because of rooney, ronaldo has become what he is? your joking to right?
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Liam, Ying and Yang, now that I can agree with. Yeah I believe your right mate, those two do bring the best out in each other, They make sweet football music together. I think they feel naked if the other partner in crime is not on the pitch alongside them. The Tev is part of that little together club as well. Those three = Dream Team.
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Dan(u)ol, great apologies mate. Of course your part of the old team legends of this blog. How could I have forgotten – so soz lol.
I’m watching the Arsenal match, to see how this Ramsey is as a player.
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Most of Rooney’s work is down to his frustration, eg when he looses the ball he runs like a man possesed, after normally a full back commits a needless foul and out comes the inevitable yellow card.
Love the guy to bits though.
ps Auguero scored again
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I’m watching the pool game on RTE. Why was it delayed? They didnt have commentators for the first minute so they had John ‘clueless’ Giles and Ronnie YSB Whelan babbling on. The sounds gone again now and Giles just came out with ‘if you get it up to their feet (Keane and Torres) they will form a partnership
Now they have the commentators phoning in the commentary 
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@Craig Mc: I was going to give Tevez a special mention but I forgot. I usually fly over for one game a year. Last year it was Wigan at home and it was one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen. Being beside the goal in the front row of the Stretford end helped
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@ tevez: “if that is your real name”, what the hell are you on about?! when you drew comparisons to Veloso it blew holes in your whole argument. you fall into the stereotype of hyping star names, to even put Veloso into the class of Carrick shows a lack of understanding. potential can only get a player so far, but potential is nowhere near the worth of 2 Premier League medals & a Champions League medal. how are you going to rate a player (with definite potential) that plays in a weaker League, for a team that can’t even win their domestic championship above a European Champion & mainstay of the Domestic Champions of what is widely percieved as the best League in Europe.
i have no problem with you expressing your opinion but when you say “i doubt very much Fergie finds it ideal”, what gives you that suspision? the fact that he has played the most games for us in midfield last season or the fact that he doesn’t have an accent above the a in his name?
what i’ve seen of Possebon is impressive but to pin your hopes on a youngster like he outing Carrick is nothing short of lunacy. once again potential can only get you so far.
so Carrick is “not UNITED quality”? let me guess you’d like u to sign Veloso for £30mil & de Rossi from Roma for £40mil? Carrick compliments the UNITED team perfectly & his record for UNITED stands to back that up. to criticise him is fair but to say he is “not UNITED quality” when he blatantly is makes no sense.
he may not be as good as Hargreaves in the tackle but i’d argue he reads the game better. he may not have the driving force of Anderson but he does have a cooler head. that’s what’s so good about the UNITED midfield, they compliment each other & Carrick is an important cog in the UNITED machine.
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Standard just came so close to scoring. 2 players clean through on goal and they, excuse the caps GOT IN EACH OTHERS WAY!
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this is off topic but i’m just wondering how many times this season will united wear the new blue third kit. once, twice, maybe three times? i mean it will most likely, if not exclusively, be used in european games and how many times will united have to wear it because it clashes with another team that wears red? i don’t think too many. i assume the white away kit will not be worn for european games at all, just like last year’s black away kit. what do you guys think?
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@Liam: I am not sure if I want the Dippers to go out, if they do then they have to concentrate on the league, which could be an issue for us. Please someone talk me out of my logic, I fucking hate them more than life its self!
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@Craig Mc: hehe thanks mate
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@Stephen: benitez wouldn’t be able to win the league if liverpool was the only team in it.
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@Primachenko: Ha Ha thnk God for words of sanity!
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Forlan scored. We should resign him.
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i would proffer that carrick is now as important as Rio and Wayne to the team i.e we are not the same team without him / them. First choice for the centre MD – it is all about keeping and passing the ball
would be up for signing the fat ronaldo for the odd cameo – quite simply the best player ever to put on football boots – ever imho
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vidic didnt say that
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deny deny deny
I live by that code too vidic hahaha
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Oooof!. Lighten up!. I was just… I… well… I don’t know what the hell I was trying to do. It was meant to be light-hearted anyway. Not an attack on Craig, just a response to a wind-up. I guess it didn’t come off…
Rooney – better than Ronaldo
NB about this, I was not joking.
Rooney – better than Ronaldo
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@flu3: I doubt fergie finds it ideal because i don’t think carrick is very good and we should have a player of a better standard in his position. What’s wrong with that? It makes sense – it’s just my opinion.
I don’t have to think a player is better because he plays in a better league or for a better team. Like i said, carrick is an average player in a good team. He is not on the same level as his teammates, namely rio, vidic, evra, hargreaves, scholes, ronaldo, tevez, rooney. These players have the quality i expect from an established first team starter. Anderson and nani will in the near future. Carrick does not. When i talk about a player being of ‘united quality’, this is what i mean. From my point of view, it is blatantly obvious carrick is not at the same level. He is not good enough to hold a starting spot at a top club. I don’t put him in the same league as xabi alonso, for instance.
Veloso has impressed me. It doesn’t matter if he plays in a crap league or for a crap team. The best players don’t have to be at the best teams. Tevez signed for us after impressing at west ham. Isn’t berbatov a great player? Riquelme? Arshavin? Benzema is the next big thing and he plays in france. Do you dismiss his potential because he’s only playing in france? Hell, james mccarthy has barcelona looking at him and he plays for bloody hamilton. Players should be judged on ability alone, they should not be handicapped by the club they play for. I think modric is better than carrick. Veloso too.
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damn Standard have started playing defensively. Expect a Standard red card or a Liverpool penalty. The ref is on a complete homer
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@Liam: Jim Beglin’s impartial views are enlightening also, BBC have Hanson and Lawro, Sky have Rednapp and Gonzo sorry Thompson who do we have, er fuck all conspiracy!!!!!!
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@Stephen: yeah, i realised that too!!. why are Scouse supporters allover Tv football media. Out of all of ‘em tho, it’ll have to be Andy Gray dat winds me up the most. He couldn’t be more biased if he tried
feckin twat!! 
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I love the fact that they didnt even bother with this on BBC 1 or 2,hell Dunphy didnt even show up for the RTE coverage
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@Gabriel: Andy gray is the best football pundit around by a mile.
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@Gabriel: I forgot Souness is also on Sky, Mick Quinn is a scouser on Talkshit and Alan Green on 5 live is a big Liverpool fan ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
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Liverpool can’t even score a goal against Liege in 180mins of football… pathetic!. To think Torres turned us down for that hell hole of unacheivement. Don’t know fate is worse, them not qualifying for the Champions league and making a push for 3rd(seriously, that’s the highest they can go) or them making it and dropping out in the second round…
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Liverpool refuse to give the ball back. Cunts.
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apparently the ‘crazy, deluded Standard manager just lost the plot’ this is great
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Is Kuyt rhyming slang for something? If not should be!
Oh I forgot Paul Walsh played for them too!!!!!!!!! Ok I will stop now!
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@tevez: seriously tevez, have u heard him doing commentary in a United game? He might be a good pundit, but it is blatantly obvious the guy dislikes United. Even more so is his outspoken love for the scousers; when Gerrard scored that screamer in the FA Cup, the guy literally ejaculated on set!.
He might be a good pundit n all but at least try to hide your affiliation/bias when trying to ‘supposedly’ deliver unbiased, fair commentary for games.
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btw, any link on the internet for this scouse horrorshow? it’ll be funny to watch ‘em not qualify… hopefully gerrard, torres or benitez will do a JT and sob their eyes out
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@Gabriel: To be honest I think Rednapp is better than him @ least he is more honest and argued with Gray on sky when Mascherano was sent off against us, which I thought fair play to him.
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@Stephen: yeah, that was even one of his most biased comments ever!! Can’t believe i forgot that one!. Redknapp looked like he was gonna slug him! lol It’s the fact that he doesn’t even try to diguise it that grinds my gears. how could he have justified mascherano not gettin sent off in that match?
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@Gabriel: I’ve honestly never noticed a particular dislike for united. He does know his stuff, more so than any other pundit i can think of. He did go on and on with that drivel about gerrard one time which made no sense whatsoever. That was hilarious.
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@Gabriel: He absolutly loves Gerrard you mentioned the Cup Final but do you remember the Olympicacos commentry!
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FUCK!!!
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@tevez: then you haven’t been listening properly mate(no offense). the guy does it all the time, little side comments like when we get a 50-50 decision in our favor and other big ones, like the mascherano sending off at home against his beloved scousers (he actually had the nerve to say it wasn’t deserved
); even jamie redknapp, a liverpool faithful disagreed with him.
He however knows his stuff, there’s no doubt, but he’s a biased scouse-supporting twat (excuse my language)
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well…that took some time
1-0 liverpool
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@Liam: feckin kuyt!!! can’t believe Liverpool will get away with yet another great escape!! Bet Andy Gray is jerkin off at the moment lol
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@tevez: the whole, “my opinion” argument is an over-used one on the net. how can you have an opinion on someones thoughts (i.e. Fergie’s thoughts on Carrick) & more so believe it to be a negative one when he’s never had anything but good to say about the man. how can i respect/accept someone’s opinion when it’s based around an assumption with the weight & gravitas of thin air. this has nothing to do with me not accepting your opinion, it has to do with the fact i think you’re wrong.
re: your final paragraph.
) you try to find fault in my argument & nibble @ it as if it was a bone. i acknowledged Veloso’s potential (re-read my post). i simply said that i put far more weight behind a player that has a resume that proves he’s a winner against the “undoubted potential” of yet another European prospect.
did i say i didn’t understand his potential. yet again (as with most net users these days
my reasoning for mentioning the League he played in is, how can you rate somebody that plays consistently against inferior opposition (in regards to BWIN) against a player that keeps his place in the best team in Europe, in the best Leagues in Europe. Veloso hasn’t been tested at the level Carrick has consistently so the point of mentioning him seemed. . . pointless. who was talking about Benzema, Riquelme or Arshavin?! yet again another defence mechanism; i never slated the league he played in or his “potential ability” i simply question his resume & the comparison.
you keep rating Carrick against Anderson & Hargreaves in their better areas but you continually ignore the fact that Carrick is better than them in some areas. i like all 3 of the players but find it sad that you don’t even credit Carrick in areas he blatantly excels above the 2. you seem to have a ignorant view to Carrick.
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‘they deserved it in the end, Standard gave it a go but weren’t good enough in the end’ Thats Giles’ story. He must have missed the first leg and the first half tonight when Liverpool were second best. Standard missed a peno in the 1st leg and had the better chances tonight. I still can’t believe that Liverpool get away with it for the 3rd game in a row. God i wish we were playing them this weekend
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@Gabriel: I think he’s quite fair and he analyses things objectively. He’s not always quick to compliment united, but when they’re playing well he does say so. He was very complimentary against portsmouth with regards to ball retention, rooney, tevez, etc. while some united fans preferred to talk about us not creating more chances, scholes passing sideways too much, rooney doing his best but not effective enough, tevez dropping too deep, etc. Gray never mentioned any of this. Still, i will be listening for it in future, perhaps i will catch a snide comment.
Redknapp knows his stuff too, when i think about it.
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