Jan 04
Southampton v Man Utd FA Cup Match Thread
This will be short — and will serve more like a place holder for match related talk.
Southampton will be interesting opposition as — correct me if I’m wrong — it’s the first time we meet them after relegating them to the Championship for the first time in their Premier League history.
It’s a four o’clock kick off, UK time, which is a few hours from now and I can’t really say much about our opposition. I could make the stock statement here, about this being their cup final and them parking their bus in front of their goal. But I think we know all that already.
For us though, it’s not exactly a chance for us to find our attacking groove because Fergie will look to rest the stars ahead of next week’s clash against Chelsea. But then we also have a Carling Cup fixture in midweek against Derby County. It is quite possible that the manager plays some stars for this and some for midweek — but then again, we can play this guessing game all week. So I can’t really bring an informed analysis ahead of today’s game. I don’t know why I am not too excited by the prospect of today’s game.
Oh well…
What I want to talk about briefly, before leaving you to discuss about the match, is regarding media speculation on Tevez possibly moving. I see no quotes where Fergie actually says that he’ll leave so I’ll not jump the gun. However, what Fergie says in reality is this:
“We will just work our way through it and that’s all we can do. If it happens, it happens. If it doesn’t, we will just have to move on. It’s unfortunate, but that’s life. Carlos wants to stay. He’s happy here. I think he’s actually said that to the players.”
While there is a non-committal tone to his words it’s not an admission. It’s quite similar to the Wes Brown situation where the player wanted to stay. I’m sure, if Tevez were to demand £125,000, he wouldn’t be getting it. [Something in the 90k region is as far as I would go -- considering the apparent value Fergie has placed on him; in terms of appearances he's made this season.]
I’m sure asking this question — should Tevez be allowed to leave? — will divide opinion equally among fans. And would love to hear your response. I’d want him as long as we don’t over pay. Even 32 million is steep in my opinion. As a player he’s a wonderful asset to the club, needless to say.
Right, I’m out. Over to you…
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Tevez is undoubtedly world class…..I wasnt happy with his arrival in the first place as didnt feel he was what we needed @ the time. As good as he is he’s a luxury player when u know 100% Rooney will play as long as hi is fit.
Having said that whats done is done & Mr.Tevez has time after time proved his class….
Guess though the question is wether you think Welbeck and probably Manucho will be good enough to step up n fill Tevez boots nxt year?
cant see us buying another stiker any time soon!?
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you say “should he be allowed to leave,” its not up to us or even fergie at this moment. its up to tevez. to pay £32 mil, and then give the guy 125k a week to sit on the bench is ridiculous.
No is my answer, its time to build from our youth anyway. we can use that money and invest into our youth.
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I think this points to one thing…. Kun Aguero. 35m should do it. Watch this space.
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@R: i agree.
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I hope that today wi will score two or more goals!
Live streams from this match, passwords: 1500
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@R: Wont happen, as much as i’d like it to. Tevez is as good, if not better than Aguero and if we sign Aguero (or any other top striker for that matter) we’d just be back to square 1. The only way Aguero will move here is if Ronaldo leaves. I’d love to see Maxi Rodriguez play for us and I’ve said before that if Ronaldo left he would be the best replacement. Anyway, this football manager mindset just won’t happen and it’s naive to believe otherwise. When negotiating Tevez’s fee the club made a mess of it. Liverpool spent 23m on Mascherano (6m loan and 17m fee) so why didn’t we just point at that deal as our negotiating stance?
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@Liam: aguero is a much better striker then tevez. who ever told you different is messing with you.
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If tevez contract is not made permanent then i feel we need to give the likes of campbell and wellbeck a chance. If wellbeck especially never gets give his chnace then we may as well close the academy because no1 will ever get brought through. Look at barca and some of the players they have brought through in xavi, iniesta, valdes, ouyol and more recently pique, messi, fabregas & bojan. They have faith with their youngsters and move on the ones that arent needed.
I hope wellbeck starts 2day against southampton cos then u will all see how good he is.
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@Matthew: i dont need telling at all. ask any of the oldies on this blog, im a firm believer off developing youth. welbeck deserves a chance.
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@R:
I would love to see him in a United shirt but I doubt it’ll happen. Barcelona are rumoured to make a move this summer and the player himself has said that he’d love to link up with Messi and prefers staying in Spain. Atletico probably know they won’t be able to hang on to him much longer and selling him to Real’s biggest rivals for what will undoubtedly be a ridiculous figure should make them happy. If Fergie feels like spending that kind of cash on another striker, Benzema seems more likely to me.
On another note, it looks like Mourinho is still an annoying cunt:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/mourinho-says-vidic-and-rooney-should-be-banned-1221874.html
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dan(u-ol), i wasnt implying anything about you, sorry if you thought i was. Its just that alot of people on here always are saying that we cant give these players a chance because we dont know how good they will be. Well we can use games like today to see. How are they ever to impress if they never play. We have given ample games to the fletchers, osheas, eagles and richardsons of this world so now its time to give campbell, wellbeck, possebon their chance too. If they dont impress then fine they can go, but if they do impress we may have a couple of gems. I struggle to believe none of them will be good enough, with possebon and wellbeck certainly impressing me. I would start those 2 2day.
I have to say though that alot of the blame comes down to fergie for not trying out these youngsters. I bet you 2day he plays rooney and giggs behind him rather than starting wellbeck. Come on lets give these lads a game, i hope he starts but i somehow doubt it.
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@dan(u-ol): I am proud of our clubs history of blooding youngster, like Beckham, Giggs, Gillespie, Scholes, Neville, Chadwick and Butt back in the days. Now we have players like Evans, Rafael, Fabio, Campbell, Welbeck and Gibson. Possebon in a few yaers too maybe. I hope Welbeck plays today, and I hope we score more than once for a change. UNITED!
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vds
neville vidic evans oshea
nani carrick andy giggs
berba welbeck
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@Viz: is that official?
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@dan(u-ol): just annouced on mutv..
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cool so welbeck starts.
it’ll be interesting to see if berbatov is the main striker or if he drops off welbeck.
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If so thats a great squad. come on welbeck!
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Team news:
GK: Van Der Sar
RB: Neville
CB: Vidic
CB: Evans
LB: Oshea
RM: Nani
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CM: Carrick
CM: Anderson(yeey
LM: Giggs
ST: Berbatov
ST: Welbeck
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subs: pig rooney park rafa gibson possebon fletcher
great management give some of the first teamers a rest before the chelski game…
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thank god wellbeck starts, dont really know where he will play tho, he usually plays as the front man so i guess berba will play behind even tho i think this isnt his best position but oh well. You guys just watch him go, this kid really is an excellent prospect and i hope he gets a goal or 2 to show his quality. Happy to also see nani get a game at long last.
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I like that team. Its the best midfield combination we have, of Andy and Carrick. I really hope Nani does well today, it will prove wether the arrival of Tosic get the wished effect. I hope he score/gets an assist, for his and for the teams sake. Welbeck starts, really happy aboput that. I believe in giving youngester a chance, and from what Ive seen from Welbeck he is the real deal. The last time United scored more than one goal in was against Stoke. Welbeck netted then.
Maybe its a sign, and I hope we score 5 again. 
Wishful thinking, maybe, but I am allowed to dream. United should play well today and we might see some goals flying in.
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giggs on the wing?
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New twist in Tevez saga! I think this is gonna continue for a looong time in the future.
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They are just doing the fa cup draw now and we have been drawn against spurs. We always get prem teams nearly every round.
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We get Spurs in the 4th round…
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@Matthew: home or away?
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man utd vs tottenham could play em up to 4 times this season!
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thats if we win today remember.
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RedDevilEddy, if we win 2day which we should we will play spurs at old trafford which is good cos im always confident in the home games.
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i think it’s a good draw we’re at home…
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Where is everyone going to be watching the match on the internet?
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Is it Christmas again? Nani and Anderson start! What the…
I’m officially excited, and great to see Wellbeck get a start too.
I smell goals today! Fingers crossed
Come on the lads, Andy to bag his first today, definately!
Peas out.
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pls upload a link for to watch the game..thanks
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anyone have a link to the game?
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@Sean: redlog.pl are streaming it I believe.
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http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/426291 [code=1500]
http://www.justin.tv/iraqgoals10/popout [code=1500]
http://www.justin.tv/iraqgoals12/popout [code=1500]
enjoy! top one is pretty good
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@m34ch: I managed to get the kick off before it went down … lol.
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here’s a sopcast link that works:
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/6816 = English
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nt working 4 me. any one else got a live stream
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berbatov is a god
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has anyone seen Welbeck’s left foot? It went missing in the box there.
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http://redlog.pl/2009/01/04/wideo-z-meczu-southampton-fc-manchester-united/
this one works for me
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NO HE IS GOD OMG
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WELBECCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!
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welbeck, what a player!
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WELCOME BACK i mean WELBECK
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Berbatov looks the business today. Yes! and we have been missing Nani’s corners. Really whips them in.
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@Liam: no, but i’ve seen his head though
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Welbeck has scored. I have to follow live text so it might be a bit behind.viva youth players
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It wasn’t exactly a great goal. Anyone would have scored it. He was lucky it wasn’t offside though. Berba is being given acres of space. O’Shea has been good too.
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