Jul 20
Spurs, Levy, Ferguson and Berbatov
Till yesterday, I thought Fergie’s comments, as quoted by the Sun were out of line. And since the quotes were attributed to Fergie, no less, I thought, either they must be true or the Sun ought to have some nerve running that story. So, unless Fergie came out to rubbish them, I had no other choice but to take those words for what they were. [It's a different thing when those quotes came just a day after the boss spoke about us having made a big for an unnamed striker.]
But now Fergie has spoken out saying those quotes were rubbish and that he planned to take action against Levy:
“It is going to be very embarrassing for them (Tottenham). But you know what Daniel Levy is like. He is different. It’s something to ask (United chief executive) David Gill about because I haven’t really spoken to him about it today because I’ve been preparing for the match. I haven’t read it, but I’m sure our legal people will be looking at it before I do.”
And, I must say, well done Fergie. Thank you for speaking out and saving me from going on a rant about how you were out of line had you made those Berbatov remarks.
It would be insane for Fergie to come out and name Berbatov amid the Ronaldo-to-Madrid transfer saga because he would be firmly in the spotlight for taking the moral ground when it came to dealing with transfers. He spoke passionately of the need for decency in transfer negotiations, and whilst it must be said that Fergie hasn’t had a particularly glittering track record in this regard, he must watch his mouth till the window shuts, at least. Which is why, him making those statements — however innocuous in comparison to what Madrid have done all summer — will always come under the scanner and will be construed as none too different from Calderon and Marca. And a person like Ferguson is too smart for such truths to be lost on him. So thank fuck, he spoke up and clarified things.
So now I could go on to highlight the hypocrisy of Levy with the tapping up of Ramos and their transfer dealing of John Bostock from Crystal Palace. But Ahmed’s got a better article on that — although it was written before Fergie made those statements. Scott meanwhile, made a case of proving Fergie is not a hypocrite — this again was written before Fergie clarified his stance — and although I don’t entirely agree (had he named Berbatov), it still is a good argument over at the RoM blog.
My only worry at the end of this is Spurs deciding to sell Berbatov off to Barcelona, or anyone else in need of a striker, just to prove a point; not dissimilar to how we sold Heinze off to our United-rejects asylum: Madrid.
Berbatov wants to leave for United, but at the end of the day he wants Champions’ League football. And if this strain in relations between the clubs escalates, then he may ultimately be convinced to move elsewhere.
PS: On a totally unrelated note, The Dark Knight is an outstanding movie. Watch it if you have the time.
UPDATE: Oh, and you might notice a survey that’ll show up when you open RR. Please do fill it up if you have the time.
Related items from Red Rants:
- Some More BerbaTalk
- Don’t Hate Daniel Levy
- Fergie’s Wind Up Act, Levy and Not Much Else
- How to Buy a Player From Spurs: A Primer
- Dimitar Berbatov – How much longer will you give him?
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at the end of the day, Newspapers printed what fergy said, if they didnt, then both spurs and man utd can hold the press liable for starting a row and printing misleading contents.
Other than that, fergy has proven he is old age, senile, and forgot what he said to his “leaker” press guy. Spurs will win, as spurs have the highest legal team in the country, out doing man utd 10 fold.
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Don’t be singing his praises just yet, Levy is not the type of person to cry foul without credible evidence. It will be interesting to see what the premier league make of this and more importantly how the Sun will react to the slure made by Fergie on their good name.
I wouldn’t want them as an enemy if I were you.
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Lazy Journalism by The Sun and Levy jumping to conclusions has meant that this whole thing has been much ado about nothing. I hope that we still do have the opportunity to buy Berbatov, although this may have burned any bridges we had. Whilst finding the “But you know what Daniel Levy is like. He is different.” remark slightly amusing at first, it may cost us the Berbatov deal (if he is the unnamed striker, who knows? Spurs may have actually told us that he is not for sale and we may have made a bid for someone else) which is needless.
In regards to The Dark Knight, I’ve been planning to go and watch it, just for Heath Ledger’s Joker, I really rated the guy as an actor and I’m sorry that he tragically passed away.
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So,these quotes were in The Sun/SkySports News/and other agencies. Mr Levy would have asked his lawyers to ask them (i know,i work in law)lets get messy
and a few more mills on berbastrop
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“I’m fed up of seeing my name in the papers all the time. It’s obvious that speculation will continue to the end but I wish the media leave me alone. I just want to play my game.”
DIMITAR BERBATOV
So all things are as they should be; United are back on the pitch, a major signing is imminent, and it appears our prodigal son is to stick around for one more year. These events are not entirely unexpected, no matter the trials and tribulations needed to get to this point. Over the years, I’ve seen what all the transfer rumors and innuendo can do to people. It’s not pretty, and I’ve learned that it’s best just to ignore mostly everything except for the results on the pitch. I’m as guilty as the next person has following United off season news almost daily, but frankly I’d be better off just taking three months off following United and just checking back at the start of the season. Who did we sign? Who left? Who didn’t leave? Who got hurt? Who gained 10 pounds after getting married and looks like a dying whale? Great, now let’s get on with it then.
My point is that the entire close season is really a waste of time. Ronaldo is going to stay, and it all comes down to football terms. We are a better team with him in the squad, and Ferguson knows it. He has built the foundation for his last team, and he’s not going to let those clowns from Madrid ruin that. Say nothing else about Ferguson, but he is clearly a man of principle. At the end of the day you have to respect that.
I agree with some of the writing on this site about not booing players. I for one am not going to be booing Ronaldo, or any other United players, unless they don’t show effort on the pitch or display blatant disrespect for the fans, Ferguson, or other players on the pitch. All this transfer talk in the papers and interviews is just talk. Also, I don’t know any of the United players personally, so I’m not going to take their misguided comments as personal insults. Really, there are far more important things to worry about in life, and getting all bent out of shape by Ronaldo saying ridiculous things is beside the point. For example, don’t get upset by Ronaldo comparing himself to a slave, get upset about the fact that there are still people on the globe being used as slaves. That’s the real sad point, not Ronaldo’s stupid mouth. If you wish to feel anything about Ronaldo, feel sorry for his lack of intelligence. I really believe Ronaldo loves the game of football, but he is losing touch with reality as his stardom is rising. It is sad to see, but it has happened before. Let’s just appreciate his talents this season because it will almost certainly be his last for the club.
I’m not trying to belittle anyone on this site, or say you guys shouldn’t care at all about what United does in the transfer window. All I’m saying is that we need to have some perspective. We are not in charge of United. We are not around the club or its players on a daily basis. What they end up selling or buying has absolutely nothing to do with what we say on this site. I think many sports fans in general need to stick to watching the games and learning about the sport before popping off and saying stupid things. When some fans do that, they are not any different than Ronaldo saying things without merit. This is why I respect the heavy contributors on Red Rants (you guys know who you are!). Yes, you do complain about what United does during the transfer market, but you save your best writing for analyzing the games and players themselves. You take the time to watch matches and give informed opinions (and not just on United players but others as well) and allow myself to learn more about the team we support. That’s why I read Red Rants and try to contribute to this site. I can’t wait for the new campaign to start!
“No one in the world wants to get back on the pitch as much as I do.”
CRISTIANO RONALDO
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FUCK RONALDO THA CUNT.
I for one will be booing the prick. In the last 2 months hes way over stepped the line with his actions/ comments.
The way he hs handled himself is so taseless. Hes shown such disrepect to the club and its fans i dnt know how any one could support the guy when we all know he doesnt even wanna be here!!
We all kinda knew that there was only one place on his mind but he didnt have to go rub it in our faces.
Hes now goin on a crusade to burn all his bridges over nxt few months to force his move which i think says it all.
Swear to god il throw up if i see another picture of him dressed in all white!
Il be glad to see the back of him so our dominace can continue.
…..”A happy squad is a successfull squad.”- RealRed.
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Levy is the Chairman of a PLC and he will not, possibly cannot, make public statements like that without legal advice (as Mr Me says). To get the lawyers to sign off on it he must have the “evidence”.
The question is what does he do with it? Remember Arnensen and Chelski, it was undisclosed but he made a killing off Abramovich to settle “out of court”. I won’t knock Fergie as he’s been an amazing manager and has accomplished what few have and done on the pitch and off few ManU players are found running amok in clubs etc. But Fergie’s success has made him arrogant and he does have the capacity overstep the line; a bald Levy will not worry about the hair drying effect!
Expect to pay!
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@realred: Way to go mate. It’s refreshing to see somebody show some anger and some true frustration over the actions of this Portuguese piss ant. What’s worse, booing the Hell out of a bastard who pissed all over us, or cheering him for pissing all over us? At least you get it.
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@PO13: I totally disagree. The difference betwenn me and Ronaldo is that I am loyal and totally devoted to the team. And I don’y get paid millions to do so. So please begrudge me the right to say my piece and vent my anger and frustration as a devoted fant towards a player who has spit in all our faces and who has flashed us his tanned backside. The fact that I and others are powerless to do something about it is besides the point. Our loyalty and our devotion dictates that we make a stand and show our allegiance and desires. Those millionaires at OT make their money of the sweat and hard work of blokes like you and I. Every time you buy a ticket to the game, you buy a cable package to watch the games, you buy a jersey, a scarf, a poster, a magazine, an action figure etc etc, you are putting money in their coffers and for that reason you and I and all the fans have a say. If everybody was apathetic and didn’t give a damn, what kind of team do you suppose we would have? Give the fans a little more credit and a little more respect as they all contribute to this team’s success as much as any of the players. Because in the end, if we don’t go, then they don’t go either. So I respectfully say that you are belittling many of us who are tired of being disrespected and cast aside like our feelings and our desires for the team don’t matter. As much as I’d be tempted to, I would never want to tell Fergie or Gill how to run their club. We have them there to do that for us because of their wisdom and experience in these matters. That doesn’t mean we always have to like their decisions and that certainly doesn’t mean we cannot defend the team against the greed and disloyalty of an overpaid, spoilt athlete who has forgotten his peasant origin growing up on the streets of Medeira without any socks to wear. Some people are in need of a real dose of humility so don’t turn on fellow fans for having the balls to stand up to Ronaldo and the establishment if they feel a wrong has been committed. Rewarding him by cheering him as if nothing has happened sends an incredible message of disrespect tot he players like Rio and Rooney who are loyal and who go out there with loyal hearts and fight their socks off for club and supporters. Cheering Ronaldo the same way for me is blatantly slapping those other players on the team in the face. What’s their reward for not holding out for a transfer or for more money? Do they get something more special than Ronaldo? God I am so frustrated by some of the fans of this team. To semi quote the Joker in the latest Batman flick by changing the word criminal for supporter and city for team I’d like to end my rant by saying, “This team needs a better class of supporter”.
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I don’t generally like to make things personal but get your facts straight…Bostock was out of contract (actually never had one because he was too young) and therefore was free to negotiate with whomever he wanted. That’s totally different than Berbatov who is under contract. Use your head.
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what you all think about Celtic’s Aiden McGeady…looks like another unearthed talent like Arshavin and is only 22..May be a replacement we can think for Ronaldo next season…
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@Grognard: You make some fair and valid points and here’s what I think:
No player on Manchester United is going to be as loyal and devoted to the team as you are. Therefore fans and players are always going to be at a distance. The reasons you are loyal and totally devoted to United are different to why a player will be totally devoted to United. What Manchester United is to a player is different to what Manchester United is to a lifelong fan. A player sees an opportunity for playing time, a wage packet, the coaching staff/facilities, chance for success, and lifestyle/location. Fans see tradition, favorite players, the stadium, and success. When those things change for a player he will most likely move on. When those things change for a fan, the true fan will stay with their team. That is a key difference that makes worrying about what every player does here irrelevant.
Second, I tried not to belittle fellow United fans on this site or wherever with what I said, and my words didn’t come across well enough. I’m not disrespecting United fans by saying that we do really doesn’t make a difference. Sure we make a difference with our support. You are correct in saying that buying tickets, merchandise, etc. makes our club what it is. Fans are a huge part of any football club. But does the club really treat us that way? No! Raising ticket prices, having a new football shirt every year, and not listening to fans comments is a clear indication that the clubs are playing us for fools. The only way any of us can make a difference is by canceling season tickets, not buying shirts, and moving on to new club (like FC United). But Manchester United is such an institution that if you and I left someone else is going to gladly take our place. The club knows that, yet it seems that many fans don’t. We are replaceable, many players aren’t.
I don’t sit there and watch matches and cheer players without reservation. In fact, I consider myself to be passionate and studious fan. I’m a realist at heart and I get out of the game what I feel important to me. I don’t hold romantic notions of these players. Personally, I have no real respect for Ronaldo as a person, but did I really ever? I’ve never met him personally but he certainly comes across as somewhat spoiled and not understanding of his luck and good fortune. That doesn’t mean I’m going to belittle him and spit in his face. What has he done to you personally? Ronaldo and other players’ minds are in a different place than ours. Athletes see fans differently that fans see athletes. When Ronaldo scores a goal and celebrates he is not doing you a favor. When Ronaldo says stupid things he is not saying them to you. It’s dangerous when you don’t know or can’t handle the difference. These guys are not your friends.
I’m not saying fans should not have their say and disagree with the team and players. All I’m saying is that fans shouldn’t just say “fuck off” to Ronaldo and say he should die. Yes, we are all disappointed by his actions. That blog post where that woman cried in her office was very moving and poignant. It does hurt personally, but it takes a better person to rise above and take the high road. Life is full of disappointments and people are inevitably going to let you down. All you can control is how you react, and going on a rant where you say a lot of words but nothing at all is not going to solve the problem. Second, how exactly are you standing up to Ronaldo? Ronaldo doesn’t really give a damn what you and I think. He is in his own little world. Booing him is not going to solve the problem. Having the grace to not bring a player down when he has acted foolishly is a stronger message than hate. Many people are going to expect United fans to boo. What happens when we do what is not expected? I’m not saying you should support him like nothing happened. I’m saying we all should take a little perspective in all of this. Let’s face it, if he goes on another scoring spree and we win the league and Europe again, many of us are going to be cheering him like nothing happened. Who is the hypocrite then? All I’m saying is that it is not cowardly to rise above Ronaldo and give credit when he plays well and blame when he his poor. What he says or does doesn’t ruin my day. I don’t think he his on some pedestal and better than me. I have the same respect for him as I do any other person, and until he personally attacks me, than that respect will remain. That doesn’t make me apathetic or not give a damn. I care just as much as you do, I just care in a different way. Most of the time we are going to be disappointed and I choose to find the small victories in being a fan instead of complaining every time something goes wrong (because that happens a lot). It all depends on how you look at.
Finally, I’m not going to “reward” Ronaldo by cheering him as if nothing happened. I’m not the type that cheers blindly at everything in front of me. I know what quality is, and Ronaldo is it on the pitch. He is one of the best players I’ve ever seen at this club, and ten years down the line all the bitterness is going to fade. Let’s face it, this is not unexpected from him. Two years ago he said he wanted to go to Madrid. He whines and complains a lot and thinks he is the greatest thing on two feet. So don’t act surprised or betrayed when he acts like that. Personally, I’m not going to buy shirts with his name on it, but I never did in the past. A Giggs or Ole jersey mean much more to me.
Also, nothing is as black or white as you make it. What makes you think that Rio and Rooney are insanely loyal to our club and supporters as you say? Just because they try hard on the pitch doesn’t mean that, because Ronaldo tries just as hard. Rooney grew up an Everton fan, and is here only to win things. Sure he likes it here, but times are good. We are winning, he is starting, and his playing with great players. I don’t think he loves this club like we do. Rio almost left this club some time ago over a contract. Sure he has gotten focused and his playing much better, and he even signed a new contract. But Ronaldo did as well. I appreciate that Rio his doing well, but he knows that the reason he is here is that he is good enough. If he were to struggle, he would be out the door, love for the club or not. A player’s love for a club is not unconditional like ours, it comes with a caveat. They are only good to a club if they are good enough. I bet you that Ronaldo likes this club just fine. It gives him what he wants. I don’t think he “hates” Manchester United or you. He just wants something else in his life. I agree with you in that I understand his decision but I disagree with how he is gone about it. But it takes a better man to not let what he does get to you.
I’m disappointed that you think I’m not in the same “class” of supporter as you are. I have to disagree, because even though I care about this team in a different way doesn’t mean I’m not in the same class as you. I don’t think I’m better than you or anyone else on this site. I’m glad that you care so much and you make this site what it is. All I’m saying is that we all should perhaps take a little perspective and realize that we support one of the best teams in the world and have the luck to get to watch such great football year in and year out. I support Manchester United just like you and I don’t appreciate you saying that people like me are why you are frustrated with United supporters. I respect your opinion but I’m not afraid of you and I’m going to stand up for myself.
I apologize if I offended or belittled anyone. That was not my intention.
Hope that helps!
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@Dave from DC: Ok, thanks for bringing that up although I can’t be too arsed to do fact checking on Spurs related stuff which is why I mentioned it in passing. But the Ramos thing whilst Jol was in charge stank. Fergie didn’t mention Berbatov so he’s not a hypocrite. However I would have called him out if he did in fact take Berbatov’s name.
Oh, and I do use my head, thank you.
Like it or not, in football there is a vicious food chain where the bigger clubs feed off the smaller ones. You’ll poach a young 17 year old from a lower league club — it’s legal but not ethical — we’ll poach your players, Madrid try to feed off our players.
It stinks but that’s how it is right now.
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Apparently Levy has strong evidence relating to his accusations. However this will all end up in Berbatov going to Barcalona.
My complaint as a Spurs fan is this tapping up thing has been going on with Berba for at least a year and it affected his form and the general morale of the team at the begining of last season, theres no doubt about that. Youll probably see if Ronaldo doesnt end up going to Madrid – he will sulk and not perform for you. Its not an ideal situation.
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@Yid: You have a point about Berbatov possibly going to Barcelona, but don’t count on Ronaldo sulking. If there is anything, he absolutely loves football and does not doze off in training unlike Berbatov. And more than anything it will hurt his ego if he doesn’t play well on the field. He may have fallen on the bad books of United supporters, but there is little doubt on whether he’ll attempt to play well. He will do well if he stays — it’s only a question of whether we as United fans would enjoy it.
About Berbatov, well, I think I can safely say that he’ll not play with your Spurs next season.
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@PO13: That was a well thought out and very intelligent response. And it may surprise you to hear that I agree with much of what you said. I think the problem really lies in the fact that you see my condemnation for Ronaldo and my support for the team as a little fanatical. It isn’t. I’m not crazed and I am far from being able to reason and not see or even agree with another take or perspective on things. You put up a fantastic and very logical rebuttal to my argument and for that I am appreciative and I applaud you. After all, I love to debate and tonight I have met somebody that can fight me on an even level. Sorry if that sounds elitist but so often I have had battles over subjects and I often feel I am a gunfighter who has shown up to a knife fight. To actually have somebody reply to me and in a sense put me in my place by not being rude or insulting but by making an argument that is well thought out and highly logical is a breath of fresh air.
I don’t agree with all your views but that’s OK too. We can’t always see eye to eye on things even if we support the same team. You made this statement and I quote, “Personally, I’m not going to buy shirts with his name on it, but I never did in the past. A Giggs or Ole jersey mean much more to me.” As I see that, you are actually in agreement with me and contradicting your statement on the loyalty of players. Why do you prefer Giggs and Ole? Because along with their play they bleed United red and have played their entire career with United and stayed loyal. That’s why there is so much love for players like Ole, Giggs, Scholes, Neville. Because they are a different breed that resonates with the mentality and the requirements of fans. Fans want to love a team and players and the way they expect love back is for the players to perform on the pitch 100% with commitment and passion and to show their loyalty by sticking around no matter where they are from. It’s really that simple and not nearly as complex or as unrealistic as you may seem. In todays world of Bosman, free agency, etc it is becoming less and less the case but we can still dream and yearn for a better time when our heroes carried themselves in a manner that was professional and dignified and when they cared what the fans thought of them. Sure I am a bit of an idealist and perhaps my expectations for Ronaldo are a bit extreme, but my expectations for him to honor his contract, his manager and his team and be a professional is not. And by doing that he is rewarding us the fans whether he gives a rats ass about us in general or not. We’re not asking to have dinner or sex with him. We just want him to want to play and play well for United. Pretty simple, cut and dry I think.
But thank you again for helping me see things from another well thought out perspective. And I am sorry if you took the comment about us needing a better class of supporter personally. It was in the context of a reply to you but it actually wasn’t intended for you solely but as a general comment on fans I have found on this blog and others that seem fickle in nature. I by nature am not one who forgives easily and I tend to hold a grudge. I do not wish for Ronaldo to die but I do feel he is dead in my heart. Because he has shown no remorse or guilt for his actions. Fans who still feel like they want to cheer for him just confound me. It makes no sense and it seems so fickle. I still feel that’s true some times but it certainly doesn’t apply to you after your excellent response and I hope you contribute much more to this blog than you have in the past. We need a sound and intelligent voice to gather round. Cheers mate and I look forward to more conversations and lively debates with you in the future.
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After all, I love to debate and tonight I have met somebody that can fight me on an even level.
Actually you just sounded like the Joker who met his match in Batman
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@Grognard: Thank you for that kind praise. I do tend to contradict myself sometimes when I write, so thanks for pointing that out. It’s true that I appreciate some members of our squad more than others for their loyalty to the club, so even in this day and age some loyal players do exist.
On a side note, this is what happens when I decide to ignore my friends and not go out and instead try to catch up on some MCAT studying (a test for admission into medical school that right now is way over my head). Instead of spending my night learning more about anatomy, I decided to write about football. I had more fun doing this though!
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@Red Ranter: It was an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. God RR, that movie is going to resonate and obsess our minds for months. Every time I write a rant down I stop and ask myself “Why So Serious?” And this smiley is dedicated to the Joker.
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Is it me, or would there be a huge difference between the way we have conducted ourselves in the Berbartov (most likely him) matter and the way Real Madrid have conducted themselves in the Ronaldo matter, even if SAF had mentioned Berbatov’s name.
To me, there is one major difference: The fact that we have actually made a bid before talking about the player. SAF has said, we made a bid for a player, and even if he had mentioned Berbatov’s name, both Tottenham and Berbatov himself would be aware of this and it wouldn’t change much, if it became public… would it?
I’m setting this up as a qustion, because I’m not familiar with the rules in these matters. I just think, it would be fair enough to state his name, once the bid is made and every involved part is told about this. To my knowledge, Real Madrid have never made a bid for Ronaldo.
In the case, there is a problem SAF didn’t name any names in the interview that I saw… and I’m not familiar with any other interview.
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@Tomas: The right way to carry negotiations is to do it away from the media glare. Fergie naming Berbatov would not be a bad thing normally because lot of clubs do confirm bids made in public. But considering Madrid’s cheap advances this summer and the way Fergie’s railed against their lack of class, he should be wary about naming names of players currently contracted to other clubs.
And since he hasn’t done it anyway, I’m glad he also sees the importance of being aware of what he says about players.
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I have realised something over the last week or so, and I think as United fans we need to do only one thing regarding Ronaldo.
Seperate the footballer from the man.
Ronaldo the footballer has probably the greatest talent in world football. As a footballer he is a born winner, and thus helps United win. As a footballer, he often pulls off the impossible or mesmerizing, and we should always be happy while we have Ronaldo, the footballer, in our team.
Ronaldo the man however, is a spineless mercenary, out for only himself and the limelight and personal glory. And for this we will never love Ronaldo as we do King Eric, Charlton, Best, Law, Edwards or Sir Alex.
If only we could remove Ronaldo the footballer and attach it to a man like Fletcher
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oy RR, your on bbc 606 lol
link.
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@dan(u-ol): It’s sad they can’t even be bothered to link back. Oh well… at least there were some people alert enough to tell the poster to give us some credit.
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I think Levy should acknowledge that 99% of the Berbatov speculation both last summer and this summer was inspired journalism. If that unsettled the player blame the Sun not us.
He should also acknowledge that if you have a player the quality of Berbatov bigger clubs will express interest or will be linked to your player. It only unsettles the player because he knows that he is too good for the club.
It’s kinda like a poor guy scoring with a beautiful girl. He may make her reasonably happy but can you blame her if her head is turned when a rich guy comes along and says he will take her to Europe. He can get mad with the rich guy but the rich guy isn’t doing anything illegal. Really he is mad with himself that he does not have enough to offer the beautiful girl.
Really though Ferguson made an error of judgement mentioning it in the press. I am really scared now that Levy will try to sell to Barcelona out of spite.
But part of me is sure that Levy is a businessman first and foremost and is doing this to save face and knows he will not be able to refuse an improved offer from us.
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Oh in NOTW Ronaldo apparentely hooked up with a Scot. No doubt he took Ferguson’s advice to forget Spain and learn to appreciate what Britain has to offer.
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I really actually don’t care about what happens with Ronaldo anymore. I’m just sick of all the talk about him its like he is a separate entity to the team. RR can we ban his name again I think I could do with a break from all this crap
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Ahh…yes the Dark Knight is an amazing movie!!!
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After all this is over, is there anyone like me who thinks we might actually end up with NO new striker? I don’t think Fergie really provided for a back- up plan and if Berbatov ends up in Spurs, we might end up with nothing or some panic- buy average striker. I hope i’m wrong though.
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