Oct 18

The World Loves Rooney + West Brom Preview

Tag: Manchester United News @ 9:40 am

… if said world is England. Suddenly the boy can do no wrong and he’s the darling of everyone concerned. Moreover, England is suddenly a world beater. Such hubris is not very difficult to build these days — at least sections of the English press never fail to disappoint in this regard.

But let us make no mistake here: Rooney has been excellent for England, and we saw flashes of his goal scoring form even for United. And, as a selfish United fan, that is my primary concern.

It’s no secret that Rooney has seemed better when his role has been more defined. When he’s not shunted out wide, and is given a more central role he gets far more out of his game offensively. The presence of Emile Heskey helped him immensely because of the way the Wigan striker selflessly linked with him. He may not score any goals from now on till the end of time, but his role in being the target man and allowing Rooney to flourish cannot be discounted.

Which is why I expect Rooney to get better for us in the presence of a better player in Berbatov. Today will be a test to see if he can translate his rich vein of England form for us. It’s also worth noting that Rooney was on a scoring streak early last season only to draw blanks as injury contributed to break his rhythm. If Rooney stays away from freak injuries (like tripping over stray training equipment) he could use this form to transform his season. Personally, I am a big fan of the Roon and I really want his talents to come to the fore now. It’s been far too long waiting. And I don’t want to sound like a scouser by saying ‘this is Rooney’s year’.

On Rooney Sir Alex had quite a few words to say in yesterday’s press conference:

It’s all to do with maturity. What we have noticed is that he goes on these scoring bursts and his form improves. That’s the way he’s been ever since he came to us, but you hope that by the time he gets to his mid-20s the greater experience will bring more consistency to his scoring and it will be better spread. We know he can score but it’s a matter of getting consistency. Maybe he’s got to get that thing experienced players have – like Gary Lineker, who never kicked a ball in some games and still scored two goals. When Wayne is in his mid-20s maybe he will score goals when he’s not playing particularly well, too. You just hope – as with all young players – that when they get to their mid-20s they are going to be the full article in terms of their authority, timing and decision-making, and how they live their lives.”

Indeed.

Moving on, we return to regular football — what a relief that must be for most of us — and we host West Bromwich Albion. It’s a game we ought to win comfortably if we are to continue our climb up the table. But games following the international break is always going to be tricky. Despite that, it’s the best possible game we could have asked for following a break, so we’ll have to win this. Simple as.

In team news, Rooney would partner Berbatov as a jet lagged Tevez takes a spot on the bench. There has been lot of rumours circulating about him, but due to my self imposed exile I couldn’t cover it on the blog. I hope to get to that in a few days. In defence, Brown, Rio, Vidic and Evra would take their customary positions in front of EVDS. The central midfield remains a question mark, as always. But I suppose it will be Fletcher and Giggs. Carrick is yet to reach full fitness, while Owen (Sa)Hargreaves continues to keep the physios busy. Ronaldo and Nani could take the wings IMO.

Predictions: 2-0 to United. Come on you reds!!!

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  • Before I comment on the game let me say a few words about the rejuvenated and reborn Wayne Rooney. I was one of those that after many years of love and devotion for the Roon started to question his development and the direction his career was headed in. The fault was not all his. Injuries and Fergie had a lot to do with temporarily derailing the fastest rising star in British football. Now two people have to be given credit for the lads resurgence and exceptional form of late. First credit has to go to Fabio Capello. First off he stuck with Wayne when things were not going well but he more than Fergie got on his case about his weight, his waste of energy and his demands that he play his position correctly or else. Then when some success came his way Fergie took notice and did the same. However, Fergie also did one better. After a few poor performances he actually did what I and others had suggested for months. That was benching him for a game. Well he benched him but brought him on late in the second half. Since then we and Wayne have never looked back. Rooney need to realize that his way and his own stubbornness was getting him nowhere and now he has shown better use of his time and energy as well as controlling his emotions a little better. A tempered and controlled Wayne Rooney has proven to be a lethal weapon. He now is reminding me of that chap that scored so well for England in EURO 04 and who scored three goals in his United debut. And today I noticed him thinking shot before pass on a few occasions. In the 50th minute Carson made a good save on him just a few minutes before he scored. However, Ronaldo was in a much better scoring position. The non confident Wayne of 30 days ago would have passed on to Ronaldo and probably got an assist. But todays Rooney shot instead. He scored in the game and but despite his new shooting attitude, he still managed to assist on two goals. Bloody awesome and if he keeps this up no one will hear a peep out of me regarding the Roonaroo.

    Now on to the game. One thing a bout the game that I want to really comment on is Fergie’s wisdom and total smarts on how to play teams like West Brom who put stack the midfield and put 9 or 10 men behind the ball.
    While a lot of us may have felt frustrated and impatient about no goals and no pace in United’s game in the first half I actually started to see the pattern which fergie was counting on and the plan he so expertly carried out. Work WB hard and keep possession. Playing that style will not open anything up for us in the first half but it will severely fatigue the opponents and then in the second half we will be fresh and then we will kick it up a gear and start throwing the awesome United free flowing counter attack at them and annihilate them. That 4th goal was a perfect example of that but all the goals came from relentless pressure and a lift in pace that put the WB on their heels after they were pretty well gassed.
    Master tactics and tremendous patience from the Gaffer. There was no doubting our class in the first half and I honestly felt that the end would be 3-0. It was only a matter of time when we broke the scoreless tie and once that happened, WB’s roof collapsed upon them crushing them like the true minnow and bottom feeder they are. Teams like that are everything I hate by large bloated leagues that allow pretenders to play with the big boys. They worked hard but in the end they were rubbish.

    Special kudos to Rooney for an outstanding game and to the back four for doing their job in effortless fashion. Loved Berbatov’s goal and his reaction. Now if ever anyone wants my definition of a poachers goal, that was it. Berbatov. The Count had a quiet game by his standards but he still remained dangerous and his presence does so much for Ronaldo and Rooney in terms of creating space and opportunities.

    Ronaldo scored but for me he is still far from top form. He almost looks like he has lost a step (God forbid) and his one on one skill are eluding him a bit. Also, no layoff should be causing him to offer up so many useless free kicks. I’m not worried because he is the best player in the world (except for my beloved Riquelme) and he will eventually kick it into the next gear. But I am very concerned that he played poorly in two 0-0 games for Portugal. With games like that it will be no time at all before Carlos Queiroz is back at United as #2. Portugal should have no trouble scoring against opposition like that. Love Rafael on the right side I must say. I am very loyal to Brown over Neville but when Rafael plays I have to admit not only am I elated but I am usually very impressed. Fergie has got it right starting him against teams that don’t pose much of an offensive threat. Why? Because the lad is going to fit into our full time future plans very very soon. He is top class out there. Happy to see Nani get a goal but my mother would have scored that one. Still, it should boost his confidence which certainly needs it. It will also give Craig another reason to live. Love ya bro……. :grin:

    8-10 for the team today and 9.5/10 for Rooney who is my man of the match.
    Fergie gets an 8/10 for his team selection although I would have placed either Welbeck or Manucho on the bench as opposed to four defenders????/ :???: 10/10 on his strategy and tactics. Just a wily tactician who let West Brom fall right into his honey trap. Brilliant!!!

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  • Well I wont comment on the game as almost everyone here as written about it but I just want to point out what I think about Roonie body language. I just want to believe he would have celebrated more assuming he goal was the first, but scoring the second goal against a team like WBA when he knows he’s not playing at the top of his game doesn’t call for much celebration. I strongly believe he’s mind is still with us for now, I’m not sure about next season.

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  • @Grognard: LOL. Nice One mate! :lol:

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  • Now imagine this team with a fully fit Ronaldo and a proper central midfield pair! :shock: Liver…who? :lol:

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  • @Grognard: Grog, I feel Red Nev showed in his 20 minute cameo what Fergie wants from a maurauding left back. Rafeal watch and learn. Gary was getting into the dangerous positions when he came on. He was always getting in front of the Brom fullback. Go Nev.

    Also, in games against lesser opposition, why are Rio or Vid not rested, when we have a very good reserve in Evans. Evans has done a good job for us when he has played. Why flog Rio/Vidic to death every bloody season?.

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  • :lol: :lol: :lol: , sorry, slip of tongue, I meant maurauding RIGHT back, or any fullback :smile: .

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  • Ballon d’Or Nominees

    Emmanuel Adebayor (Arsenal), Togo.
    Sergio Agüero (Atletico Madrid), Argentine.
    Andreï Arshavin (Zénith Saint-Pétersbourg), Russia.
    Michael Ballack (Chelsea), Germany.
    Karim Benzema (Lyon), France.
    Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus Turin), Italy.
    Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Spain.
    Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United), Portugal.
    Didier Drogba (Chelsea), Ivory Coast.
    Samuel Eto’o (FC Barcelone), Cameroon.
    Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal), Spain.
    Fernando Torres (Liverpool FC), Spain.
    Steven Gerrard (Liverpool FC), England.
    Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Inter Milan), Sweden.
    Kaka (Milan AC), Brazil.
    Frank Lampard (Chelsea), England.
    Lionel Messi (FC Barcelone), Argentina.
    Pepe (Real Madrid), Portugal.
    Franck Ribéry (Bayern Munich), France.
    Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), England. Marcos Senna (Villarreal), Spain.
    Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Spain.
    Luca Toni (Bayern Munich), Italy.
    Edwin van der Sar (Manchester United), Netherlands.
    Rafael van der Vaart (Hamburg SV puis Real Madrid), Netherlands.
    Ruud van Nistelrooy (Real Madrid), Netherlands.
    Nemanja Vidic (Manchester United), Serbia.
    David Villa (Valence CF), Spain.
    Xavi (FC Barcelone), Spain.
    Youri Zhirkov (CSKA Moscou), Russia

    No, you didnt read wrong, he’s not on the list. Guess who im talking about.

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  • how the fuck is rio not on that list?!?..its a fucking outrage that the world’s best centre back isn’t there but Pepe the madrid scum load of crap is.

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  • @Craig Mc: I reckon it was merely for the purpose of re-establishing chemistry after the int break and the continual streak of clean sheets, both with Celtic in mind. Rio and Vida are needed at their best for Tuesday so this clean sheet will only do their confidence good and they are now back to their psychic best. Evans will definitely get games and I see the next prem match as his next outing.

    With regards to Red Nev, that’s why Fergie has been showing confidence in him, his positioning, clever overlapping and crossing are spectacular and he just needed some games to get back to his regular best. Not to discredit Brown, but it will be very competitive in that position, mainy btw those two. It’s a pity the same cannot be said about our left-back position, if only Fabio wasn’t injured, I’m pretty sure we’d have seen a whole lot of him recently. We sold Silvestre because we had Fabio and O’Shea, and while O’Shea is solid defensively, he doesn’t offer that productivity that Evra and co do going forward.

    Exciting times for our defense, we really are looking covered for the foreseeable future, although I would like to really see Foster and Kuszak get a decent amount of games this season, before handing either the No.1 glove.

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  • Evra should be on there too

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  • @Sidharth: mate, it’s compiled by France football magazine and how they can ignore Rio is beyond me. First, UEFA decides John Terry is a ‘better’ defender, then Rio is now not good enuff to be on there, despite performing better than both defenders on that list!! :roll: I feel bad for Rio and maybe it’s a bit superficial for me to say he deserves more accolades for his stellar performances, but footballers are human too and they enjoy recognition and praise for their performances. Rio is getting praise but not the recognition or accolades and that sucks big time :evil:

    Maybe it spurs him on to do better, who knows, but one thing he can take home is that all ManUtd fans recognize and appreciate his talent and performance on the pitch. He will always be remembered for it and be forever immortalized in our hearts and history books. :smile:

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  • EVERYONE WHO DOESN’T KNOW -BUT HAS AN OPINION LIKE GABRIEL- READ THIS ONE…

    FIFA UEFA IAAF AND IOA
    will never be patient again…I mean with “incidents” like Rio who didn’t give his urine to them….well, whoever doesn’t give his URINE AND BLOOD IS OUT OF THIS “HAPPY COMMUNITY”…..

    They sell sports and games.They don’t want their games to be accused as filthy , dirty , unhealthy or whatever…..

    The same case with Thanou….She didn’t appear for the tests before the 2004 Olympics.She was banned for two years and when this year 2008 she asked to run in the Olympics she wasn’t allowed.She was called by the Greek Olympic team but she wasn’t allowed.

    NO URINE – NO PRIZES

    So,the big guys won’t buy this crap footballers and athletes sell.

    P.S. I told you ROONEY IS THE BEST

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  • @NiKOS: @NiKOS: LOL! :lol: Well said.
    I dont care if Ronaldo celbrates like Rooney yesterday or like a depressed man. As long as he gets the goal I will care. Still, I think Berba should start showing a little more emotions when he scores… :razz: His goal reminded me of Ole`s in 99. ROONATOV! :mrgreen:

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  • RIP TEVEZ :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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  • Seems Hull would be playing Champions League next season… :razz: :lol:

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  • @RedAllTheWay: Man how can you say that! Tev probably didnt get to play as he must’ve been suffering some serious jet lag after his around the world trip in the week. Anyway I am damn hopeful tevez will be our player long term (even if it means no ronaldo! I’ll be happy to sell him for 60-70m to whosoever wants him now. We have Rooney :)

    By the way look at Hull!!!! Who would have thought they’d be 3rd (from the top) come november!!! Incredible! hats off to the players and hteir boss.

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  • Anyone gone over to Goal.com today?? According to them, we are getting rid of Hargo in January, and Tevez soon after….Of course, there are no quotes given anywhere, but why let that get in the way…

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  • I would rather keep Tevez than Ronaldo. I jst hope he gets a game soon… We have three busy weeks ahead of us.
    Tuesday: Celtic
    Saturday: Everton
    Wednesday: West Ham
    Saturday: Hull(btw, conrgats with another win!)
    Wednesday: Celtic
    Sarurday: Arsenal
    Tevez is bound to at least get 3 games. He will probably play against West Ham, one of the Celtic games and the Hull one. We need him to stay fresh and he needs games! I love Roonatov, but I also love Roovez!
    I wonder when Ronaldo will become his usual self. He has had a month now, but I still dont see any progress. Maby its just me, but I dont like watch him play anymore. When he did something wrong before, I didnt care so much. But now I am just getting frustrated. I wish we sold him for some £40-60 million and bought Benzema and Bale. Would have become my FIFA 09 team then! My wish United team for next season:
    VDS/Foster if Edwin retires
    Rafael-Rio-Vidic-Evra
    Carrick-Hargreaves-Anderson
    Rooney-Berbatov-Benzema
    subs: Foster/PIG, Brown, Bale, Fletcher, Nani, Possebon, Tevez
    I may be alone with this wish, but I would very happily trade Ronaldo for Benzema!

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  • i noticed a very prominent trend… call me on it, but my opinion is that everyone here loves to get ahead of themselves…..

    about rooney, about ronnie, about tevez… sheesh…

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  • who wants to take me up on a bet that when spurs play us, they will play out of there skins almost like the 1970 brasil squad, not this shite which they are now

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  • ive got a joke for you lot.

    tottenham hotspur.

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  • @Craig Mc: You’ll have to show me a lot more to convince me that Neville deserves to be out there more than Rafael. Yes he got himself in a few good positions and almost scored a goal but this was still just West Brom. Neville to me has shown a lack of quickness and and I worry about him against good opposition. Sometimes one needs to know when it’s time to move on or retire. I would never play Neville over Brown and now even over young Rafael who with all honesty is outstanding but needs to be broken in slowly against poor opposition.

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  • @dan(u-ol): Are you referring to Louis Saha? :lol: :lol:

    Seriously though, you must be referring to the omission of one Rio Ferdinand. Correct?

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  • MUFC Fan in America

    @dan(u-ol): Look, theres only about 4 or 5 players in the running for the award. Not worth getting your undies in a bunch because Rio isnt in it.

    @Grognard: I agree 100%.

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  • @RedDevilEddy: I just laugh when fans complain about the type of celebration or no celebration that players give after a goal. Oh he wasn’t happy or animated enough, oh he didn’t celebrate with his teammates, oh he looked unhappy and disinterested. Berbatov is not an animated individual. He is as reserved in his personality and show of emotion as he is as a player. No unnecassary use of energy and emotion. That’s just his style as it is Ronaldo’s to look arrogant and moody. Just be happy they do what they do for us. Personally I prefer a player who does very little celebrating. When I played sports way back when I remember one of my coaches telling me that when I scored a touchdown in American football, that I should act like I’d been there before. I honestly despise some of the ridiculous and totally childish celebrations that many have. Rocking the fucking baby is top on my list but I also hate the thumb sucking and the me me me one that tells me a player who does that is so fucking full of himself. Actually my least favorite is actually Frank Lampard’s ring kiss but that’s only because I hate Frank Lampard. And Nani better cut out that one legged flip. Very easy to land wrong and tear and ankle or knee ligament doing that. It’s not worth the risk or the managers wrath. Miro Klose scored the game winner yesterday and was so happy he did one of his flips and timed it wrong and ended up on his ass. I just want players to grow up and show proper emotion and celebrate with teammates and get on with it. My God some of them act like they just won the lottery or the war. Like I said before, players should act like they’ve been there before. Berbatov for me is classic because he scores and acts like a Ninja and predator of the night. No emotion. Just a clinical assassin. That intimidates an opposition much more than a player who makes an ass clown of himself after a goal. After all, this game is being played by men, not a bunch of ladies going through PMS.

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  • @MUFC Fan in America: I think there is fair reson to be annoyed about it because IMO he should be one of the four or five in the runnning for the actual award. To not even make the short list beggars belief.

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  • @RedAllTheWay: Now that Real Madrid are showing interest in Tevez I think his days in a Man Utd uniform may be numbered. Oh they may finally offer him a new contract but by then, will he want to sign knowing he is third choice and riding the bench full time? He’s proud and has a lot of ability and he knows it too. He loves the team but his ego and his pride may get in the way and he may go where he feels more appreciated or where he knows he will be a starter again.

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  • @RedDevilEddy: Are you kidding me mate. I’d rather have one Ronaldo over 10 Tevez’. I couldn’t care less about his personality provided he is loyal and he wants to play for us. If that changes then that’s different.

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  • if tevez is unhappy about being benched, im sure welbeck/campbell would be more then happy to take his place.

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  • I wish we were playin Spurs next week. :wink: They are SHIIIITE!!! Ramos for next sack? I think so, dont hope so. :grin:
    Brutal, crazy and shitty Spurs…

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  • @Grognard: Feck me Grog, if I scored in front of the Stretford end, I would strip naked, run the full length of the pitch and back again. Do cartwheels for the next part of my act, and play the rest of the game NAKED. Well before the guys with the straight jackets came to carry be away to the local asylum that is :lol: .

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  • @Grognard: I never said we should play Nev, I just said that he showed in his cameo what Fergie wants in a maurauding full back. Everyone knows I am a Wes Brown fan, I was not pleased when he was left out recently. However Rafael did nothing yesterday to convince me he is ready for a first team place on a regular basis.

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  • @RedDevilEddy: Ronnie’s not himself but he is scoring goals. More than you can say for some players who are themselves :evil: .

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  • @Craig Mc: I would have gone absolutely mental! Celebrating like Rooney did yesterday and wave to the fans. Finishing it with a Ronaldinho dance. :razz:

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  • @dan(u-ol): Bet Tevez will join Ronnie and Nani when they move in the summer :evil: .

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  • :lol: :lol: Spurs are a joke!! :lol: :lol: To think I was tipping them for a top 5 finish :roll: :lol: How can such a talented group of players be so rubbish on the pitch? If they get relegated (and it is looking very possible), i wouldn’t mind snapping up Dos Santos, Modric and perhaps Bale. They are all young and can be very good additions to the squad and even better, the humbling they receive at spurs won’t inflate their egos to the point of being moody when benched for a game or two. :smile:

    What do you guys think? If spurs get relegated, which of their players would you fancy at United?

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  • @Craig Mc: I doubt that all three will move. :???: Probably Ronnie, but not Tevez and Nani.

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  • @Gabriel: I have always been a fan of Bale. I want United to buy him as a back-up to Evra and a possible left-winger. We only have Nani, Ronaldo and Park… latter not so good, so Bale would be great. I wouldnt like Mdric, to be honest I think it is he that makes Spurs so shite at the moment. He is a terrible passer and his head doesnt follow the speed of the Prem. Dos Santos is good, but we dont need him. Yeah, only Bale is good enough for me. And of cource, I want Campbell back. :razz:

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  • @Craig Mc: Craigy my man, still prophesying this ‘Spanish Exodus’, huh? :roll: :smile: Now Tevez will be joining the exodus too, huh? Well, almighty ‘Oracle’, what else do you see in the future, maybe Anderson will follow his buddies too… :roll: :lol: :lol:

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  • @Gabriel: You just wait and see scoffer :lol: . Those who scoff most, choke first :lol: , feck did I just say that? :smile: . Trouble with Fergie gathering all these portuguese speaking players, and latin mentalists, they are a clan, and they go together when one unsettles the rest. So says the great oracle of the North :lol: :lol: :lol: .

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  • @RedDevilEddy: I like Bale too, he has potential, but he’s snubbed us once before!! :evil: What’s with young welsh players snubbing us for London teams, first Bale, then Ramsey… don’t they recognize that two of the best welsh talents (Giggs and Hughes) thrived successfully at United? Anyways, I wouldn’t mind him, but we have Evra and Fabio and I really don’t want anything to hamper Fabio’s progress, but he still wouldn’t be a bad addition.

    Luka Modric I think is a very promising player, relatively young and will have gained valuable premiership experience from Tottenham. He is an attacking midfielder, so we could definitely use him and i think with a little bulking up, he could become a great player in the premiership, definitely someone you could use in your squad. Same goes for Dos Santos, even younger and already experienced playing at the very top. The thing is, I’m not really sure what his exact position is :?: Is he a winger, supporting striker or an attacking midfielder? Anyways, i’m not just convinced he can cut it in the wings at premiership level yet, but will be a very interesting buy, as he’s showed glimpses of raw talent and promise.

    Those are the three best I think Tottenham have to offer and since we already have such a great rapport with them :lol: :lol: following Carrick’s and Berbatov’s transfers, I don’t see any problem in acquiring those players if they were relegated. :razz: :grin:

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  • @dan(u-ol): Don’t forget poor Manucho. :grin:

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  • @Gabriel: DS is a SS, CAM player. He is not as good as people actually think. Ive watched him before, very overrated and only thing he can do is dribble- to no effect.
    BTW, if you dont know this Roma are losin 4-0 against Inter in Rome. :shock:

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  • @Gabriel: The reason Bale snubbed us for Spurs was because he would get more games there and grow up better. He hasnt so far, Spurs havent used him so much as he may have thought. Mainly because of injuries, but… I think now he would like to join us.

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  • @Craig Mc: It’s just a difference in personality and i am sure age my friend. I’m from that old school that tempered their enthusiasm and in one statement showed respect for the opposition while intimidating them with their cool demeanor. Adults acting like children not only infuriates me but it really pisses off a remotivates the opponent. It also leads to headhunters going out to injure a player who embarrassed them with his celebration. Today’s athlete is spoilt beyond belief and that makes them act incredibly childish. Sorry mate but I just can’t stomach such acts of foolish exuberance. It’s pretentious and irritating. As for you celebrating naked in the Stretford end, to be honest, I’d probably prefer your girlfriend as she would probably look better in her birthday suit. :lol:
    In fact I have a solution to our problem. After the home team scores, a WAG strips naked and dances at the Stretford end. I’m all for naked women, not footballers and certainly not the Craigmeister. :mrgreen:

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  • @Craig Mc: Really? :???: I thought Rafael played very well and showed good sense in terms of when to move forward and when to stay back. He was also very tidy with his passes and his tackles. I love the lad and want to see way more of him.

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  • @Craig Mc: yeah mate, you ‘did’ just say that :lol: :lol: You are right in saying they are sort of a tight group with shared reasoning/behaviour, but I just don’t see such a mass exodus of our latin and Portuguese-speaking contingent. I mean, if they can’t handle a little pressure and competition, then I’m sorry to say, they might as well leave. I don’t want them to, but football is a team game and if any of those other players went to teams similar in stature to United, they will still be facing rotations in the squad.

    I know latin players are hot-tempered (and all the other cliches associated with them) but in spain, for example, there are good latin players that sit on the bench, face rotation and even face worse conditions!! They don’t just up and leave because of that, they stay and fight for their place, why should it be any different here?

    Honestly, I reckon these issue is blown out of proportion and was ignited with the departure of CQ. They are in the best team in the world, playing a major part in our quest for major honors, loved by the best fans, if they are not satisfied with that, then I’m sorry, we can’t give them anymore.

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  • @Gabriel: I too was tipping Spurs for top 5 and possibly either tipping Liverpool or Arsenal for fourth. It’s a disgrace because they have more talent than 13 or 14 other teams in the league. Their general manager and Daniel Levy are fucking ass clowns and should get the boot before poor Juande Ramos who was dealt a terrible hand with Berbatov and Keane defections and then had to settle for Pavyluchenko and a kid for compensation. I think Pav is good but not for that team in this situation. The biggest failure is Modric who for me was too young to be placed in the position of play maker and midfield general. They also still have very ordinary central defenders. What Levy did was sabotage the team with his Berbatov tirade and instead of keeping Berba, he lost him and Keane and then sold a bunch of role players to Sunderland. And now Arshavin and other big name targets of Spurs for January have said they no longer have any interest in playing for the club. Unless there is a drastic change of fortune Spurs are headed down and that would be a tragedy because that club had such a bright future just three months ago. I don’t blame Berba or Keane like so many do. I blame Levy for completely creating instability and then waiting until the last moment to make deals which left them no time to recover. Not paying the money for Arshavin will go down as a major mistake. In fact sacking Marty Jol I still feel was a massive mistake. All he needed was some more time and a few upgrades in players. :roll:

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  • @RedDevilEddy: Ronny is not going anywhere. Not until Fergie leaves anyway.

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  • @RedDevilEddy: We have Fabio as a backup for Evra. All we will need is Fabio because in two years Fabio will have taken over on the left and Rafael on the right.

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