Sep 21
United come through its acid test unscathed
This should quite easily be among the most breathtaking United matches in recent times. The drama, the talk going into the match, the punches being thrown pre-match between managers, fans and players alike, everything contributed into elevating the stakes to stratospheric proportions.
It was a derby after all, with three points to bag, but with so much talk, United and United fans would have absolutely hated losing this game much more than past derbies.
The match began at a frenetic pace; it took Rooney all of two minutes to open the scoring, keeping with his rich vein of form. For the first fifteen minutes, it was all United. The players played like this really mattered. After all, whilst a United win would mean status quo, a loss would make everyone in the press bleat about how City have “finally arrived”. That talk would be far too annoying for any supporter, and it’s good to see the players recognized that during the first fifteen minutes.
If there was one recurring theme that could characterize this match it was individual errors. Foster’s indecision — trying to be cute when an adherence to basic goal keeping fundamentals, of clearing the lines, would have worked — was brutally exploited by a certain Argentinian hobbit, who passed it to Barry to stroke it home. 1-1.
After that City gained the ascendancy during the half with Tevez going close; hitting the post. A Tevez goal would have made me absolutely sick, and I’m sure a lot of the fans in the stands who booed him at every opportunity would have felt the same. Thankfully we went into halftime, level, and hopefully, a Ferguson bollocking lying in wait.
Before we talk about events that were to follow, I must praise the manager for getting his tactics right. We didn’t accord the unnecessary respect we seem to give to any decent side at OT [like our 4-5-1 against Arsenal at home, for instance] 4-4-2 it was, and a fearless one at that. Park was more or less expected to do the defensive work, whilst Giggs started on the left.
We started the second half with much more purpose, ran City’s midfield ragged, Ryan Giggs, Darren Fletcher growing into colossal figures in the match; the two combining to score two of our four goals. Anderson also was impressive in lending urgency and steel to our midfield alongside Fletcher. It’s glaringly obvious now, and at the risk of sounding like a broken record, our midfield looks far better with Fletcher in it. And he was everywhere, now even attacking the ball at full pelt in the box. We have been crying out for midfielders who can step up to share the goal scoring burden. Yesterday Fletcher did just that, and more.
To be fair, not much could be done about Bellamy’s first goal — it was a belter and a fabulous one. However, once we made it 3-2 with another Fletcher header, and winded down the clock, Ferdinand inexplicably looped the ball, in an attempt to be the footballing equivalent of cool as some of his rap idols, gifting the ball away with another counter attacking goal from Bellamy. Foster was beaten at his near post, but the fault squarely lay on Rio. I wouldn’t hound him for it; I’m sure he’s yet to fully recover from his injury. With Evans also playing on through pain in other games, with a dodgy ankle, we have some issues with our defence that needs sorting.
Much has been made out of the extra time given to United resulting in our injury time goal, but according to the MOTD2 analysis, Bellamy’s goal celebration took 56 seconds, the Carrick-Anderson substitution would add another thirty seconds thus giving us a total added time of 5:26. We scored at 5:27; a second later, which is not something Hughes should be mad about. What he should really be talking about was the mindless hoofing City’s defence resorted to in an attempt to see out the day, rather than holding on to the ball to run down the clock. High scoring derbies, are often a showcase for poor defending, whilst being great for the neutral. Yesterday was no different in that respect. We made some glaring individual errors which Ferguson was rightly angry about, but given the way we dominated the second half we would have scored 6-7 goals if not for Given’s late reaction saves. City were abject defensively, and it will take them a while to gel together as a back four.
It’s fantastic to see Michael Owen net the winner for us. We’ve swapped Tevez for Owen, saving us millions, but earning us absolute gold; in terms of Owen’s quality, if he can approach his form of old (and staying fit). I like the way we’ve handled him so far, nursing him onto the big stage rather than rushing him and expecting the world out of him. He gives us a different option, completely predatory in nature, and his experience and intelligent movement was the difference yesterday. Ferguson spoke about giving him more chances and it’s good to see him make the right noises ever since he joined United.
And finally, all praise must be reserved for Ryan Giggs. I wrote an article last week on the need for our old guard to call it quits, but I made a clear exception on Giggs. Today showed us why he still has a big role to play. I remain sceptical on his ability to play all ninety minutes on a regular basis. But he stood head and shoulders apart yesterday. The clear standout performer alongside Fletcher. He lacks the pace but his intelligence and ability to weave past players, as if in slow motion, was still on display — and almost surreal, in a way.
Three matches of real importance, i.e., Arsenal, Spurs and City, and nine points from the three. We eked out a win against Arsenal playing poorly. We beat Spurs in a commanding display, and we got the result against City despite the nervy nature of the contest. Chelsea as a threat loom large, following their thrashing of Spurs, but for now, we can be satisfied that we’ve passed our first acid test of this season.
Before I sign off, here’s the MOTD2 video of the derby, in full streaming goodness. Watch it before it’s taken down:
Manchester United v Manchester City
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@Red Ranter: Oh I realize that what I am asking may seem very unreasonable but again I speak as a diehard supporter who sees no middle ground. For me it’s like war. There is us and there is them. They are the enemy and so you never cavort with the enemy no matter what. It’s unrealistic and demanding but I would like to see professionals exhibit the same passion for their team that us poor jobroni’s do too. I love players with passion and loyalty and they live on forever in our hearts because they blled United red for life. Cantona, Charlton, Crerand etc. Robson went out there and managed but he eventually came home as an ambassador to the club. At no time did he ever take a job that would have put him in the bad books of the United faithful. Career be damned. There are tons of jobs for good qualified managers. It’s not too much to ask ex United legends to avoid three English teams when looking for a job. And yes RR, the sky in my world is red. Never Man City blue.
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@Red Ranter: “Personally, I am ok with players and managers doing what’s right for their career as long as they conduct themselves with dignity and professionalism on matters relating to their ex-clubs where they made their names”
I can’t disagree with you on that. As much as I don’t like seeing our ex legends take these jobs, I am generally fine with it as long as they always pay United the respect it deserves and as long as they never put down our manager or managers to be. Hughes has issues with Fergie and that is truly sad. I am not saying it’s all Sparky’s fault. From what I am reading it sounds like Fergie has done some things to deserve his wrath as he has done the same to Keane, Beckham, RVN and other legends. But the Boss still should be respected for his greatness and for what he has meant to the game. Can you imagine former players ever managing teams and coming back to OT and acting like that when Sir Matt Busby was manager? Fergie somehow brings out the worst in people.
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@ Spizzy – again I apologise for the use of expletives, but your comments about Foster were so far out of right field and reactionary, they’re just not worth addressing. If you want to do more than just jump up and down in glee at his failings, then fine, let’s talk about his failings, but if you want to just make up random stories about him it’s not particularly productive.
I could care less if Ben Foster ends up being our number one, certainly it doesn’t look like he will. But I’ve almost never seen the level of criticism levelled at a single player before. Maybe he’s not United quality. Good lord the number of young players that we’ve said that about over the years. Obviously this site was around, but would Patrice Evra have been slaughtered like this for his debut? How about the years of mocking Fletcher has had – only there because he’s Scottish? Fans are always fickle I know, but I just can’t work out why, even if he’ll never cut it at United, people are digging into Foster this way. Maybe its a goalkeeper thing…
Anyway moving forwards, we’ll just have to wait and see who our number 1 is in January/May. At the moment I expect it to be Edwin, but maybe Fergie will sign in January, assuming the transfer market has closed down.
Does anyone else think that waiting this summer was a brilliant move? With all the news around Madrid’s debt, coupled with Chelseas ban and Cit’ys general unplesantness, if we have £50m to spend we could be the best destination in the world next year for some new talent.
Oh and for those obsessed like me, it’s now the 23rd of September, ie, the date Fergie said Hargo as back in training. I’ll believe it when someone shows me photos.
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@Red Ranter: What gets me is when managers call modern day players mercenaries. Then they get a job offer and do the same thing. It is important for fans like myself to pinch ourselves every so often and realize that at the end of the day it may be a passion and a way of life for me and other supporters, but for players and managers, it is still first and foremost a job that pays big money. And as much as it hurts me to see players leave and sign with other teams, deep down inside none of us can begrudge anyone from making a living. Perhaps if they paid us supporters to stay loyal to our teams. But then again why would they. We’re so daffed and loyal we will do it for nothing anyway.
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@Redrich: Gosh Batman, when you put it like that.
Yes you are right. It’s the straw that stirs the drink and what makes things truly exciting. I for one was never as worked up about Liverpool games having not been brought up in Manchester. But having to tolerate that ass clown Rafa and having developed a great dislike for him has made the Liverpool and United rivalry finally really resonate for me. Up to then I still felt that the real rivalry that mattered to me being a Canadian was always United vs Arsenal. City were a non entity or the quiet little neighbor. So Derby matches or historic rivalries never meant as much to me as the two best teams in the league playing each other and hating each other. For over a decade I have loved Ferguson vs Wenger, Vieira vs Keane. For me nothing will ever replace the buildup, hype and drama I felt before the FA Cup semi final replay of 1999. And that win with the wonder goal from Giggs is what its all about. Not watching a useless derby between United and it’s hopeless little wannabe neighbor Man Shitty. At least Rafa has made United vs Liverpool interesting again.
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@Red Ranter: It’s great for the game because it has finally given meaning to the derby. For decades it’s been the have’s vs the have nots and that has been boring. Now City are contenders with grand ambitions and it has made it a big event on the calender. I mean, since I have been a United fan I have never ever looked forward to a Manchester Derby. Why should I. I am not from Manchester and City for me has always been a second division team that seems to always do enough to survive relegation. But now things look to hot up and it means a lot of fun down the road. And truthfully, although it’s sad, the feud between Fergie and Sparky seems to make it even greater and more attractive. Oh yes, and there’s that Tevez fellow too. He really gets under all our skins.
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@[OPTI]Madschester United: For the last 35 years I have looked around North America’s sports scene to find the sport or the team that would bring back my passion and my childhood. I love baseball but that never did it. I love the NFL but that never did it. My childhood passion for the Boston Bruins and Bobby Orr has always been the greatest memories of sport that i have and the memories I cherished the most up until the time I really became a hard core Manchester United fan. Yes I have been a fan of the club since 1976 but my true passion began when the Premier League began. Since then the thrill this sport and this team have given me so outweighs all the sports in North America combined. There is still an honesty and reality to the game of footy that the glossy NFL, NBA and MLB cannot compare to. Something about the game and it raw passion and ability to emote every emotion out of your soul is truly something special. Nothing compares to United when it comes to bringing the little boy out in me. Last Sunday’s game made me feel totally alive and made me realize and remember why I was a football fan to begin with. I wish that Fergie would also feel that way and that he seriously decides to scrap his Italian experiment of the last two years that have slowly but surely taken the fun, the thrill and the passion out of the game and out of me.
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@spizzy: Well said mate, well said. It’s time for all Ben Foster fans to wake up and see things for what they are, You cannot make gold fro salt. Try as you might, it just won’t happen. SOme of these stubborn and fickle fans have something I truly loather in people. It’s infinite patience. I detest infinite patience. Life is too short to be wasting time and space on an experiment gone wrong. Why do I want Manuel Neuer or a keeper like him? Because I want results right frakken now. And that sad truth is that even if I had patience, in the end, Foster would still never reward me because he frankly has shit for talent. Fergie has seen the future and the future does not include this stiff. He was fair to him and he gave hi a chance but he now realizes that the lad is a waste of time. Time to move on.
As for Dan not commenting, I don’t know why he is being so quiet but if I were him, what would I have to come in with and use for ammunition supporting Foster? He knows he has no case for his love and faith in the player, therefore why bother.
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@Darth Red Diablo: You need to finalize the disc by formatting it. It needs to be finalized on your computer so that it will play on other machines.
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@Beachryan: Goalkeepers are viewed through the looking glass. Every little move of theirs is scrutinized and is magnified ten times over. Often keepers are thought to be good as Foster was because they make a lot of saves for bad teams like Watford. In reality it is much harder to play goal for a very good team because you spend most of the game doing very little. You have to be very mentally strong with great focus and have the ability to react and recognize situations better when on a good team. Being peppered with shot after shot often makes very mediocre keepers look like world beaters. But in games where they do very little, all of a sudden the fundamentals of focus, concentration, positioning, footwork and distribution play a major role. There are many keepers like Given and Jaskilinen etc who are seen as good keepers because they are great shot stoppers with strong reflexes. But given showed on Sunday just how ordinary he is. He made many great reaction saves but was found very wanting on high balls crossed into the box. Foster is a good reaction save keeper. He is very poor at everything else. If he had only one or two weaknesses, I’d say maybe in time he can work on improving them, but his overall game is so flawed that I truly ask myself how in God’s green Earth has he managed to make it to the elite Premier League and to be keeper on the best team?
Every muppet on the planet should feel a rush from this and feel that they too can overachieve and make it in their respective fields even if they haven’t got the skills to excel. Ben Foster is not just a poor keeper mate. He is a terrible keeper. I have watched this game for over 35 years and i have taken the effort to study the art of keeping especially. I have had the privilege and good luck to be able to watch the greatest keepers play many many games. From Maier, to Schumacher, to Shilton, to Schmeichel, to Zoff to Kahn, I have seen them all and they have taught me what it takes to be great at that position. It took Schmeichel an entire career to accumulate enough gaffs in one blooper reel to equal the same number of gaffs that Foster has committed in 7 games this season. Please tell me, when is enough enough? How long must the experiment go on before you and some others finally clue in to what the whole world already knows? Why is it so important for you and a few others to show such loyalty to this player when he clearly hasn’t got the ability to be our #3 keeper yet alone our #1? When do we end the debate and move on? I cannot wait for the day EVDS returns. Hell, I’m hoping PIG plays the game of his life tomorrow and makes Fergie consider playing him instead of Foster.
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@ Grognard – All fair points, and I have to say I’m beginning to agree. At first I was happy to attribute his mistakes to nerves, which is exactly what you’d expect from a first time keeper at United, but there have been so many in such a small space of time that he looks like a flop. Again, I have no problem with saying that he’s not class, but I just don’t like the knives out approach to him! Especially as every time Tomas plays I’m terrified, and VDS is out.
I agree that goalkeerps are massively underrated, particularly for big teams, as their concentration, organisation and general fear factor help shape a defence. Kahn was legendary for this, as was big Pete. I thought Cech was going to become a modern day great, but he’s just never been the same, not as commanding since having his head cracked (fair enough!). I trust your judgement on Adler and Neuer as I don’t see them enough.
If Neuer was keen (as the press indicated a while back), how nice a transfer window could we have next summer? A happy Silva and Neuer? That would be simply drool worthy…
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Time doesnt exist at Old Trafford does it.
I believe Giggs just scored the 5th goal 5 minutes ago.
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@ Idopas – Sorry was that humour?
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@Beachryan: They did that on talksport yesterday…
“BREAKING NEWS : Ryan Giggs just scored, it’s now 5-3″
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A-ha! I see what they did there! Clever rapscallions…
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@Grognard: It was Fosters mistake which i said, but Anderson was asleep and should have tracked Barry who was alive to the incident, and I wasn’t “pointing the finger”.
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@Grognard: No keeper would have saved that, simple.
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@NicoQB: I like this one “Manchester United 18 titles Liverpool 18 titles Arsenal 13 titles Ryan Giggs 11 titles Everton 9 titles Here’s to Ryan Giggs, the 4th most successful club in english history!!!”
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Wolves preview up.
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With regards to Foster there seems to be “you are rather in or your out” mentality, surely this should not be the case, the lad on Sunday fundamentally had a stinker and not even the ardent fans of Fozzy can say he didn’t. But looking back on his performances this season and considering he has only played a handful of games was Sunday forgivable?
Lets try and rationalize the situation, all goalkeepers have made mistakes and by the nature of the mistake these are always howlers as they are the last line in defence, this does not forgive or forget Fozzy’s lapses on Sunday by the way.
I have seen many poor keepers at United in my supporting life, Carrol, Taibi, Ricardo, Goram, Bosnich, Leighton in his latter year and Kuszack gives me heart problems every second he is between the sticks.
Foster has in games made some great saves but also has made errors, the mistakes could be simply down to him not being good enough I understand peoples views but there could be other factors.
The defence has been choppped and changed quite a lot and for a inexperienced keeper who needs to bed in this surely cannot help him, he has only played 7 games and 3 were clean sheets.
In his defence he has a great kick and moves the ball out well to fullbacks and such like, but also seems to be all left foot and suffers from confidence or he beats himself up too much when he makes an error, something that Schmeichel would never do regardless of the mistake being glaringley his.
EVDS’s form last season was shakey to say the least and probably should have been his last season, so Fergie in my view was right to have a look at Ben Foster as no point in spending if the long term solution is already under your nose.
Saying any other keeper coming in would “certainly” do better is a fallacy and nobody knows that to be true, playing for United is a big deal and lots of players like Barthez couldn’t handle the pressure and was a total liabilty when he wasn’t going off injured at half time.
The fact of the matter is that we should not write him off, but on the flipside he has a lot to prove and we are not going to bring in anyone else until at least Jan and even then that is very unlikely.
My personal take on the lad is that he has ability, and he has proven that already and saying he is the “worst” keeper in the league is not even true Almunia for one is awful, he for me is lacking confidence which is one of the most important aspects of the make up of a World class goalkeeper, so maybe he is a top goalkeeper but not at OT, like James and Fridel who could not handle it at Liverpool but went on to be very good elsewhere.
But one thing is for sure he will get more games and would not be suprised to see him play tonight, to get him straight back out there knowing Fergie I know I would.
I never want any player not to succeed at United, I dislike all the abuse certain players and the manager get form some people and find it unnecessary and simply very short sighted, I for one will be cheering the lad on and cross my fingers for him as he seems to be a top lad, lets hope he will be a top keeper.
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@Beachryan: Neuer and Silva would be sublime business indeed. I still think that we might just get Silva in January because I believe a player as great as that and as expensive could have his price skyrocket after the World Cup. For me it makes more sense and is good business to buy him in January to avoid the hike up in price that a great performance in the big tournament would bring. I think Fergie knows this and if Silva is not injured or still in good form, I think we could see a surprise big name purchase in January.
As for Tomas, I think it’s a little unfair to feel nervous about him being out there considering he does not make the mental mistakes that Foster makes. He may not have the shot stopping skills or reflexes of Foster but i personally think he is an OK keeper and a decent backup. I would never prefer him in goal over EVDS but right now, I honestly would prefer John O’Shea in goal over Ben Foster.
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@Stephen: It’s Fosters fault all the way mate. It should never had gotten to Barry in the first place. It should have been punted up to row 50 by Foster. Where Anderson is really to blame is on the play that Tevez hit the post. He allowed Toure of all people to just dribble and drive by him and never made any attempt to block his path or take the ball away. The defensive part of his game really lacks refinement. He needs to learn how to get position on a player and how to take him out of the play.
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@Stephen: Probably not, but that does not take away from the fact that yet again, his positioning was poor. I have seen top class keepers make saves on even greater shots than that. Not because they are super human, but because they are always on their toes and in top position to make and effort at it. In fact, I have often questioned Foster’s positioning on goals we have given up as well as close calls. Frankly, it’s awful.
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@Grognard: I have said it was Fosters fault pal and never have said anything else, it was more of an observation with regards to the follow up that Anderson was caught napping when Tevez stole the ball from him and Barry was alive to the situation and Anderson wasn’t, I was not passing on the blame for the mistake onto the Brazilian.
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@Grognard: I can’t blame him for that goal at all, but would question why O’Shea failed get into Bellmays face which gave the the little twat time to score the goal.
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@Stephen: He is lacking confidence because his own actions have shattered what little confidence he had. Your opinion is noted and I respect it. I cannot however agree with it because it speaks of what I have been saying earlier that if you are in Foster’s camp you are the kind of person who is very forgiving and incredibly patient. Good for you mate, just don’t expect everyone else to be like that too. Life is short and football seasons are even shorter. We are Manchester United, not Watford or Wolves. We don’t have three years to wait on a goalkeeping project while we allow him to throw our trophy quests in the crapper with every start.
The sooner EVDS comes back the better and then we must seriously look for the ultimate replacement to Eddy because it is not Foster. Yes United have had numerous bad keepers over the last ten years. And where are all of them now? None stayed because Fergie thinks more like me and less like you. We have no time to give a keeper while our season hangs in the balance based on his inability to catch crosses, distribute passes and make the simple raw fundamental decisions that John O’Shea can make when playing goal.
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@Stephen: Agreed, he was caught napping but no player could ever have assumed that his keeper would perform such a lame brain howler as to give the ball away like that. Yes he is guilty but he is not charged because he was just an innocent bystander to the crime that Foster performed in my opinion. I’d like to be as fair to Foster over the Rio gaff but the way he played Bellamy was just awful. That was the moment that made me realize that this lad was truly an awful goalkeeper incapable of making solid smart spur of the moment decisions.
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@Grognard: I agree with your points but is seven games enough time to judge him on?
and VDS was not exactly safe hands last season, if we brought in a new keeper he would be given more time than Foster has that is for sure and rightly so, I agree we cannot start to throw games away if his form continues in this vain, but PIG for me is no better if not worse than Foster.
I am not that patient mate
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@Stephen: Again, I wasn’t happy with his footwork and positioning on the goal but yes, he cannot be blamed for that as it is 100% O’Shea’s fault. On that we agree. I am just looking at Foster on every play and it amazes me how bad his concentration, focus and positioning is. That’s why I bring up that point. He had 0% chance of stopping that ball where a Buffon, Casillas or Neuer may have had a 15% chance based on their solid positioning skills and concentration.
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@Grognard: I agree I felt he could have done better with Bellamys second, he was caught in two minds instead of being decisive one way or the other, but Rio should have been fined four weeks wages for that.
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@Grognard: I think simply his confidence has gone, and playing in goal for United you cannot allow that to happen.
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@Grognard: It Doesn’t work….
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@Stephen: Seven games for a keeper is more than enough. Like i said earlier, keepers unlike any other position are looked at under the looking glass and focus on their every moves is scrutinized. Remember Massimo Taibi? He made one mistake and was shipped back to Italy. Foster has been so underwhelming that his mistakes are just too numerous to mention. Don’t just look at the goals he has given up. Every game except one has had at least three major errors by him and he has been lucky many times to not get punished by his gaffs. Keepers are on the firing line, especially at this level mate. United haven’t got the time or extravagance of a healthy lead to be patient with a goalkeeper who continually makes games an adventure for them.
Consider this. We outplayed Man City so badly but we beat them with a miracle at the end 4-3. Had it not been for Given’s heroics and Fosters’s blunders we should have won that game 6-1 or 7-1. What kind of message would that send to the rest of the league and what kind of a confidence boost would that have given the squad and especially Fergie on the tactics we used? But instead, we squeak through a game we completely dominated. A game where we had a dozen excellent chances to score and where City was gifted two goals from incredible gaffs by our goalkeeper twice and Rio once (remember that on the second Bellamy goal, Foster played him like 10 year old kid in goal). Our defense is lacking confidence because our keeper is useless. And it’s going to be like that until EVDS returns. Do you honestly think Fergie is going to continue experimenting with Foster after what he has seen? The man is 69 and has a few years left. He wants to win in Europe and break the tie with Liverpool for championships. Do you think he is going to continue to wait and see if Foster all of a sudden comes good? The lad is not good enough. All the time in the world isn’t going to turn a frog into a prince.
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@Stephen: Hell I’d bench Rio for that mistake. The only reason I think twice is because of his long layoff and rust possibly contributing to it. I was also distressed with he fact he couldn’t keep up with Bellamy. I know Bellamy is very fast but before his injury, so was Rio. At his age he has either lost a step or his injury is still not healed and he is working on his fitness. But as bad as his mistake was, when I saw the way Foster played that, I was more upset with Foster. That’s the time when I want a world class keeper to be present. When our defense screws up and he is the last bastion of defense.
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@Darth Red Diablo: It could be the kind of disc you are using. Is it a DVD-R or CD-R? If so, I don’t know what else to tell you not being there. However, if it’s DVD+R, that is probably the reason.
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@Grognard: No… It’s a CD-R… Mp3… Problem is that the 360 doesn’t rip it to the hardrive!
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@Stephen: Exactly. United are top club constantly playing vital and important games. We cannot wait out a keeper’s confidence and performance problems unless it’s a keeper who has been great for a long time and is going through a slump. Schmeichel went through one in the late 90′s but Fergie was patient with him because frankly, the man was a goalkeeping God and had proven himself. If Foster is a future goalkeeping God, he needs to show it now, because his window of opportunity is about to be slammed shut for good.
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@Grognard: I agree his time is running out and if he is ever to be our number one he needs to a run of games where he is better than faultless.
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