Jan 30

United target could leave on deadline day

Tag: Transfer Rumours @ 2:14 pm

Toni-Kroos-3088232Bayern Munich manager Pep Guardiola might have just given United fans a reason to remain glued to TV screens and radios tomorrow, after admitting that Toni Kroos could leave the Allianz Arena before tomorrow’s transfer deadline.

The Bayern Munich midfielder has been on David Moyes’ radar for quite some time, after the European champions’ Chief Executive, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, admitted that the club was struggling to come to an agreement with the midfielder over a new contract.

Kroos is under contract with last season’s treble winners until 2015 but Bayern are refusing to meet his £150,000-a-week demands, leading to speculation that the 24-year-old could leave the club he joined in 2006 and for which he’s scored 12 goals in 119 Bundesliga appearances.

While Rummenigge said last week that despite the discrepancies between the club’s offer and Kroos’ financial demands Bayern remained keen to tie the midfielder to a new long-term contract, but things might have got a tad more complicated for the Bavarian outfit, after Kroos stormed off the pitch last night, unhappy at being substituted.

The midfielder threw his gloves away in disgust as Pep Guardiola replaced him and the former Barcelona manager admitted that Kroos’ future at the Allianz Arena could be not as certain as it was until a week or so ago.

“He [Kroos] is an important player, but things can move fast in football,” said the Spaniard.

“Here today, gone tomorrow.”

The news would have alerted David Moyes, who was spotted in Germany on Friday night as Bayern took on Borussia Monchengladbach.

The United manager has stated his determination to bring in more players of Juan Mata’s calibre as he seeks to revamp his squad and Kroos would undoubtedly be a welcome addition to United’s midfield, given his versatility and the considerable experience he’s matured despite being only 24.

The Bayern Munich midfielder is thought to be valued by his club in the £25m region, a relatively reasonable fee for a player of his calibre, but Moyes was expected to wait until the summer before making his move but reports suggest that he might have changed his mind.

The Bundesliga’s January transfer window shuts at 5pm tomorrow rather than at 11pm, as it’s the case in England, so expect a day of wild speculations tomorrow.


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  • you know these quotes from pep were from four days ago? press just trying to make them relevant now after kroos had a bad performance and threw his gloves.

    (from jan 28) http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/kroos-departure-possibility-guardiola

  • I read something else about him signing a new contract. I don’t see this happening. It would take Bayern Munich refusing to meet United’s wage offers, or not coming remotely close…. He’s 24, he’s world class and already a major player in their squad. They know if they don’t pay him he’s gone.

    I’d love for this to happen…. I just doubt it very strongly.

  • I think this is a case of bluff and double bluff between Kroos and Bayern. I’d love it to happen but I don’t see it.

  • When pigs fly…

    oink oink… :oops: :oops:

  • Munich are a notoriously hard club to make a deal with, so at this late date – I don’t think so.
    Hope I’m wrong on this one, he would be a massive addition to this side.

  • With Fabio gone and now Zaha out on loan, the early pruning has begun. I would not be surprised to see others ousted, and I would hope that Nani is finally released from his Manchurian nightmare. Dumb f..k is anything other than consistent and serviceable, he is a man unto himself, but there was occassions when I thought he was great and was going to present an example of greatness to the stage.
    He never did quite get there, did he??
    Must have been the Managers. :-D :-D :-D :-D

  • In the event that United do not sign any more players, I would think our chances at 4th place or better will be a dog-fight.
    I like that Rooney and RVP are now fit and I like we now have JM to work a few magic tricks, but honesty, I think Liverpool will need to slump somewhat for us to overtake them.
    Key for us, is to stay injury free with our few remaining headliners. If Rooney or RVP or Mata go out for any length of time,, all bets are off.
    Look forward to your abuse. :evil:

    • @Redrich: Even with all players fit, 4th place is going to be tough, but if Utd start putting some results together and confidence grows there’s a good chance. I’ve got a feeling it’s between Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool.

  • Guys how true is the otamendi story.

  • Another link I’ve just read suggests that Moyes might be in for Martinez, now, if he could pull that one out the bag.

  • anselem aka mr loverboy

    Hmmmmmm toni kross will be a better signing for united and he will help us in going up to top 4 or even at the 2nd place in the league.well I know is going to be difficult for baryern to release him,but I will be very happy to c him on manchester united red shirt before tomorrow.

  • Now moyes has confirmed we’ve finished doing business in this transfer window, think we’d better accept that Thursday night football will be the best we can hope for this season. We’ve weakened the squad by the departures of zaha,nani (probable) and fabio, whether we use them or not is irrelevant, still weakening the first team squad, and bringing in a player (who is world class, no doubt) but is not going to solve our problems in the short term.seems teams like chelsea, city(with the probable purchase of Fernando) psg, even dormund don’t seem to have a problem recruiting quality midfielders, yet for us always seems to be an issue. Just know moyes is taking one hell of a gamble expecting us to qualify for any European competition next season with the squad we’ve got. If moyes thinks bringing in possibly bringing in 4+ players in the summer is going to solve our problems, think he’ll be in for a shock.Spurs is the best example of what happens when you basically try and make wholesale changes to a team in one go, just near on impossible for them all to gel together, they need to be fazed in gradually for maximum impact, not just thrown together and hope for the best.With it also being a world cup year, that throws in its own problems with costs of players significantly increasing if they have a good tournament, plus arriving back late for pre season training, so its not gonna be as easy as moyes seems to make out for doing business in the summer. Just know moyes is gambling big time, just hope for our sake it doesn’t go pear shaped.

    • @THE RED BARON: I suppose a case could be put that say three of his midfield targets for this window, Reus, Gundogan and Kroos were simply not available but are likely to be in the summer, even if the cost will have gone up, then why should he go for others of lesser quality just because they are available? There’s no doubt he should only bring in top quality and not go for short term fixes. With this principle in mind, Moyes probably had no other options. However, as you correctly point out, its going to make it quite a bit more difficult to reach what is the only objective left this season, a top four finish, barring some highly unlikely miracle in the EPL. Its going to be very much a case of RVP, Rooney, Mata and Januzaj, if they stay fit, carrying the main responsibility of achieving an objective which many will conclude is no more than second best anyway.

      • @Julian: I can understand that maybe some targets weren’t available, but for me thats where the loan system comes in
        There must be numerous quality midfielders who are on the fringes of their national squads and desperate to go to the world cup.They might not be at the top level of quality, but someone who can come in and bolster our wafer thin midfield on the shor term.I just feel a loan move can benefit both a player and club.The player gets the chance to make a claim for a possible world cup place while putting his self in the shop window, the club gets a short term fix until a proper revaluation can be conducted in the summer when the first choice targets could become available. Just feel moyes is putting all his eggs in one basket with this policy he’s adopting. Certainly a high risk strategy as far as I’m concerned.

        • @THE RED BARON: Yes good point. Someone on loan might have been the answer. Ideally a CB, a MF & a LB but that’s probably asking too much. Also I wouldn’t know who!

    • @THE RED BARON: Totally agree with that. Moyes keeps saying he needs players, but you need to keep the continuity of a side, especially one which won the title significantly last term. This is the issue, DM seems to be making the veiled excuse he inherited a poor squad. I refute such claims, it certainly wasn’t a blue chip United side, but it had quality.

      Ferguson threw him a hand grenade with regards to Rooney, but this was a side of serial winners. The issue has been from day 1, is that Moyes has constantly talked the players down. His pursuit of Baines and subsequent comment after the signing of Mata have undermined our vice captain. Evra is a very influential member of the the dressing room and upsetting him has caused a cancerous environment. Rio has also been shunned, as has Nani, who signed a vast 5 year only in September, are you telling me his crossing is any worse than Valencia? Letting a £20m player go out on loan, especially one who can play in midfield is farcical,Anderson has been a failure, but what is the benefit to us him playing in Florence?

      His decision also not to retain any of the coaching staff, albeit Mulensteen wanted to go, also hasn’t helped. His constant excuse that he didn’t start until July are laughable, he had the job in May, no one is convinced he sat on his hands until then, the last day fiasco made the club a laughing stock, with ill conceived scatter gun offers, which were ridiculous. Again, why did he think that he new more than Fergie, with regards to Zaha? Again we have let a £15m player out on loan. If his idol believed him to be good enough, why did a manager who had won nothing in 10 years think he new better?

      Yes he has been unlucky with injuries, but he has not managed to motivate the players coming in, the when one doors closes, another one opens ethos hasn’t happened.

      A blind man could see we needed a midfield player in the Summer, we ended up with a over paying for one of his own. A player he openly admitted takes time to adjust to new surroundings.

      With the signing of Mata and with RvP, Fellaini and Rooney now fit, he has no more excuses, put up, or fuck off.

  • Just because there’s nothing to do about Moyes I think it’s harmless for us to suggest our line ups with players available for the next 5 PL games. As in which consistent XI would you have with players at our disposal right now. This naturally excludes players like Toni Kroos and Otamendi. Mine would be

    . De Gea

    Rafael. Smalling. Evans. Evra

    . Carrick Fletcher

    . Kagawa

    . Mata. RvP Rooney

    To be honest I haven’t included AJ on the basis of piling huge pressure on him. But it could easily be Mata in the middle,AJ on the right and Rooney on the left. Kagawa benchwise. This is a narrow system of pass and move. Mobility and enterprise. A variation would be Benitez’s excellent 4-2-3-1 at Chelsea where he had Mata,Oscar and Hazard behind Torres. That was a lethal combo.

    • @Jay Wire: Its probably our best line up except I would prefer Mata in the middle instead of Kagawa with AJ on the right – despite your valid concerns. Give him a break definitely but he should play as much as possible. It could well be that Moyes will rotate this a bit, bringing in Kagawa and playing Mata wide. The only other concerns are the CB pairing. I’d like to see Vidic, with all his experience, getting back to top form and holding the back four together. I’m not sure about Smalling and Evans – at least not right now. Jones is always an alternative as he would be for Fletch in midfield depending on the opposition. The other concern is we cant afford to give Evra a rest as there is nobody available as back up, unless Buttner is “risked” more than he has been so far. If Evra is a defensive liability now , imagine how he’ll be come the end of the season particularly with “wingers” in the above line up who neither have the ability nor the inclination to track back and provide cover. In that respect, no doubt Young and Valencia will still be making fairly frequent appearances.

  • De Gea
    Rafael Jones Evans Evra

    Fletcher Carrick

    Januzaj Mata Rooney

    RvP

    That side would finish higher than 7th…………………………

  • De Gea

    Rafael Smalling Jones Evra

    Fletcher Carrick

    Mata Rooney Januzaj
    RVP

    For me the main thing is getting the players to play regularly with each other and not a different line up each game.

  • …………De Gea………..

    …….Smalling…Jones……..
    Rafael…………………Evra
    …….Carrick…Fletcher……

    …………Kagawa………….
    ….Januzaj……….Mata……
    ………….Rooney…………

    I want an interchanging front 4. Hight-tempo, with lots of movement to confuse the hell out of defenses.

    For more structure in a strict 4231 I will put RVP up top.

    I would love to toy with the idea of replacing Fletcher with Rooney, even though I know he’s not disciplined enough for that role.

  • Well one thing is clear. No place for Valencia and Young on any line up.

    @Karl- brave move to exclude RvP from your main eleven. Can’t agree with that one but I like the interchanging front four idea.

    I’m not surprised at just how the line ups are so similar. No matter the set up,it all leads to a more modern set up. I’m just amazed at how it all seems plain obvious to everyone else apart from Moyes. You never know,maybe he is under strict instructions from Ferguson,to maintain the wide system at United for the sake of tradition and identity.Because I just can’t make sense of it.Even if I believe Moyes is completely out of his depth and absolutely the wrong man for United,I just can’t believe he could be this clueless even if I keep saying so. Not advocating for him at all,but it seems rather extraordinary and bizarre for a millionaire manager to be this clueless.

    Regardless I really like these line ups and would kill to have any one of them for just 3 consecutive games

  • Well one thing is clear. No place for Valencia and Young on any line up.

    @Karl- brave move to exclude RvP from your main eleven. Can’t agree with that one but I like the interchanging front four idea.

    I’m not surprised at just how the line ups are so similar. No matter the set up,it all leads to a more modern set up. I’m just amazed at how it all seems plain obvious to everyone else apart from Moyes. You never know,maybe he is under strict instructions from Ferguson,to maintain the wide system at United for the sake of tradition and identity.Because I just can’t make sense of it.Even if I believe Moyes is completely out of his depth and absolutely the wrong man for United,I just can’t believe he could be this clueless even if I keep saying so. Not advocating for him at all,but it seems rather extraordinary and bizarre for a millionaire manager to be this clueless.

    Regardless I really like these line ups and would kill to have any one of them for just 3 consecutive games

    • @Jay Wire: RVP one was tough decision, but what was frustrating was the midfield choices (or lack thereof).

      But, that’s besides the point. You’re right in your assessment. We’ve been watching these players perform week-in-week-out. I don’t think all of us can be wrong in where we believe their strenghts lie. Would be nice to see it given a chance with a few games. Looking at it this way, our team really does not seem that pathetic or mid-table at all.

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