Jan 06
United’s debt situation explained
While I’m on a linking spree let me add this one too.
United Rant has a very good break down of the debt situation — this is in light of our mooted interest in exchanging our “debt for bonds”. Those who don’t want to break their head to understand the financial intricacies, can read Ed’s piece which tries to explain it to a lay person.
When you’re done laughing at City (linked in the last post) it’s time to get a dose of reality here.
Related items from Red Rants:
- David Gill’s “Out of Context” Cop-Out
- The Glazer Financial Breakdown
- Media Avalanche of Glazer-Debt Stories Gathers Pace
- United To Steer Clear of Tevez
- Fast and hard, fast and hard.
Tags: Manchester United News
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@Grognard: Like calling our manager senile then?
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@Johnsom33: By innocent people you were talking about the Togo players and staff on the bus right. And the ones taking out their frustrations the terrorist perpetrators – right Johnsom? If thats what you mean mate, I couldn’t agree with you more. But I wouldn’t use frustrations as the word for the terrorist activities mate, more bloody minded UGLY HATRED!
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@CraigMc:
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And Ps Grog, Beckhan is not a United legend in my eyes, good player no doubt but not a legend.
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@Grognard: And you’ve never called my comments ridiculous.
That analogy was ridiculous and I stand by that. Even intelligent people can have their gaffes. Just as everyone in this world are capable of making ridiculous analogies so are you. You made one in that case.
So I stand by that.
Sue me. If you want to make a hue and cry about it be my guest. I think on any other day you would agree with me on this particular thing. You aren’t in a good mood I think.
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@Grognard: I told you how I approach the game because you came in to tell me what you think of my writing. I didn’t tell you anything about what I feel about yours. So stop making this about yourself and feeling insulted over it. I said I don’t like writing rants, which is different from reading other people’s rants.
You’ve always said you like to have intelligent debate over here, and write stuff about stimulating the intellect, and now since I said I like to write stuff that’s intellectually stimulating to me, you tell me intellect is over rated.
Mate, you’ll twist any argument to make the other person sound wrong. Jeez!
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@CraigMc:
Yes but Red Rants, even though it’s not a true description of most of my writing, sounds so much better.
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@Stephen: I may or may not have called Fergie senile as I honestly do not remember mate, but the truth is it makes me no less of a gentleman to do so. Calling a woman who is someone;’ wife and and a mother a bitch and a whore is in incredibly bad taste especially as you are married with children. You wouldn’t appreciate that being said of yours because you were not popular at work or at the local pub now would you?
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@Stephen: Then you need to get your eyes checked. Sorry but the truth hurts mate. Ask 100 United fans and 95% would call him a legend even if many were not big fans of his. My God, how quickly we forget. It’s appalling really.
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@Red Ranter: I may have called some of your comments ridiculous because they were. Mine are not. Call me conceited arrogant or whatever, I do not offer ridiculous statements.
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@Grognard: Well I live in Manchester mate and many believe he isn’t, maybe he is in Canada though I am not sure as I don’t live there.
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@Red Ranter: Sorry mate but your blog is titled RED RANTS. I certainly think you better get used to writing a few rants or I am seriously wondering why you would give the blog such a name when you yourself find writing rants uncomfortable? Can you not see the confusion in all that. And I’ll twist any argument simply I because can and because I have the considerable intellect to do so. The fact is intellect is great to have and even greater when used properly but it should stop anyone from adding a little passion and a little less self control by ranting and taking a firm stand or a position on something. Something a good old fence sitter like yourself seems incapable of doing. That’s fine mate, it’s your prerogative to write and be who you are. I just offered my impression of what you are all about right or wrong. And I admire your intellect as it is immense. I do not admire when you reduce mine which is just as impressive or even possibly more, as ridiculous. I have no problem being told I am wrong when I am. But calling an intelligent analogy ridiculous was beneath you and a great insult to me and my extensive intellect, especially in matter concerning history. If you are such a wimp that you can’t handle a comparison that invites war and soldiers because you are pc slave, then I’m really sorry for you. You are just what the hard core left in the United States are hoping to recruit. I too am a Liberal, but a little more close to center as I speak my peace and never allow people to tell me how pc I am.
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@Grognard: I can’t stand the woman and if it was not for her he would have been a better player, if she were so lovely why did he have an affair with Rebecca Loos? He also had a reputation around Manchester of being a bit of a boy, but you only have your views about her and Becks, if he is a legend are Nicky Butt, Phil Neville, Dennis Irwin, Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister?
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@Grognard: So I am capable of offering ridiculous statements and you are not? Because you’re not human?
If you reserve the right to call someone’s comment ridiculous because you honestly believed they were then I reserve the right to call someone’s statement ridiculous because I honestly believe they were.
Fair is fair. End of.
God I can’t believe someone would claim he never makes ridiculous statements with a straight face! Unless he’s not a human and he is God himself.
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@Grognard: Again you should show more respect towards real legends Gary Neville and Paul Scholes but you don’t.
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@Grognard: I repeat for the millionth time, that I have no problem with your war analogies and I’ve had great pleasure reading most of them.
I just thought when donibrasco said he didn’t think much of Beckham you said “I guess you wouldn’t care much for soldiers who laid down their lives for the country” it was ridiculous because a footballer is in no way comparable to a soldier.
If you cannot grasp what I’m trying to say I give up.
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@Red Ranter: Call it bruised pride mate. I do not appreciate being referred to as ridiculous. A person like myself has not accomplished what he has in life, has spent 8 year in University and was a teacher a major payer in Government and in big business and will tolerate somebody who knows very little about him referring to his comments as ridiculous. Like I said, disagreeing is one thing, mocking or insulting one’s efforts is another. So I lashed out through emotion and because I am truly a little fed up with your crusade to reduce me in esteem and in overall admiration by the others on this blog. I know I rub you wrong a lot mate, but trust me, you do the same when you are mostly silent most of the time but you come out with you knives when I get a little controversial. Trust me, it’s my personality and controversy that adds the stimulation and substance to everything that goes on over here. Something you have never acknowledged, respected or truly appreciated. And I have long given up the hope that i would be appreciated, if not respected by you. So getting your love is no longer important to me mate because I speak my mind and offer what I want to offer while attempting most of the time not to hurt or insult others too much. Sometimes I fail at that but most of the time I think I am pretty good. Still, I never can do right by you and seriously, when was the last time you ever agreed with a word I have written ever praised one of my long and well thought out posts? Try never. Hell, you don’t even respond to e-mails anymore it seems as I offered a personal note to you in my last one and you never had the courtesy to respond in kind. I guess that makes it clear that unofficially I am in RR’s doghouse for life.
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@Stephen: Go back and read one of my earlier posts on this thread mate before you start accusing me of that. I don’t have to like a player and I have made no bones about the fact that I am not a big fan of theirs and that they have overstayed their welcome. But make no mistake, I think and always will think of them as great servants to the club and for me they are legends. So sell that BS to someone else because I do not buy it. Nothing frustrates me more than when people do not take time to read more than my first paragraph of a post and do not read the full thing and then jump to conclusions.
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@Red Ranter: No I cannot grasp that because you are taking a simple analogy based on looking at both as warriors and not getting into the deep emotional and sacrificial aspects of the two positions in question. Footballers are warriors but of course they are not warriors like soldiers, but because teams are often structured like the military, it is not a bad analogy or is it wrong to compare them without getting into the deep emotional aspects and the sacrifice of lives. I didn’t do that. Why use terms like the Tartan Army and the Red Brigade for teams if we are not allowed to use the military or it’s history in debate? No it is not ridiculous and I do not like it being referred as that. If you cannot grasp your head around it, that’s not my fault. I would apologize sincerely if I felt I was wrong but I am not. When I am wrong like in my last e-mail to you, I admit it.
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@Grognard: Regarding why I haven’t replied, well there’s a reason why, check your email.
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