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		<title>By: magnumopus</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/why-heinze-wont-go-to-liverpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1836</link>
		<dc:creator>magnumopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at this from Hienze&#039;s perspective, a player.

He receives a letter telling him to look for another team. He wants to stay in England and fight for titles that would also let him play in the Champions League. Where to go? Not Chelsea because they like Cashcole. Not Aresenal because they have a starter there too, although what a complainer he continues to be. How about Liverpool? They have problems at LB and some Argies for mates. Not a hard decision, except for those fans living in their angry past and red nose himself who resist. They do not care what is best for their players. They would rather hold onto their grievances! A sorry lot no matter who fits the shoe. Liverpool fan or Manc fan. Let go your childish anger and move on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at this from Hienze&#8217;s perspective, a player.</p>
<p>He receives a letter telling him to look for another team. He wants to stay in England and fight for titles that would also let him play in the Champions League. Where to go? Not Chelsea because they like Cashcole. Not Aresenal because they have a starter there too, although what a complainer he continues to be. How about Liverpool? They have problems at LB and some Argies for mates. Not a hard decision, except for those fans living in their angry past and red nose himself who resist. They do not care what is best for their players. They would rather hold onto their grievances! A sorry lot no matter who fits the shoe. Liverpool fan or Manc fan. Let go your childish anger and move on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Dawson</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/why-heinze-wont-go-to-liverpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1622</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 07:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be honest i can sort of see where you are coming from (about the foreigners).  When you have fans such as Little Dud (see above) who makes comments like that then it makes you think that some people snipe at another club and its fans because they feel they have to (stereotyping).

Gab Heinze im sure would not have trouble in joining such a massive club as Liverpool even though he is a UTD player.  Fernando Torres is a quality player and i feel in the current climate of ridiculous money transfers then he is set at the correct price.

Anyway, Liverpool always seem to vet their players and be sure they &#039;want&#039; to join and alot of players have put the club before money... But, i will say...... If you get paid Â£45,000 per week when you was offered Â£55,000 elsewhere and you have C/L football then i suppose its not all bad after all !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be honest i can sort of see where you are coming from (about the foreigners).  When you have fans such as Little Dud (see above) who makes comments like that then it makes you think that some people snipe at another club and its fans because they feel they have to (stereotyping).</p>
<p>Gab Heinze im sure would not have trouble in joining such a massive club as Liverpool even though he is a UTD player.  Fernando Torres is a quality player and i feel in the current climate of ridiculous money transfers then he is set at the correct price.</p>
<p>Anyway, Liverpool always seem to vet their players and be sure they &#8216;want&#8217; to join and alot of players have put the club before money&#8230; But, i will say&#8230;&#8230; If you get paid Â£45,000 per week when you was offered Â£55,000 elsewhere and you have C/L football then i suppose its not all bad after all !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Red Ranter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Ranter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Alex Dawson]

Your comment is anachronistic. Had you talked about pay cuts and budget buying and the like last season, I might have granted you that. Not now. Not when Hicks and Gillet themselves call Liverpool a franchise. You aren&#039;t very different from us in that sense now. Stop being pretentious. Admit it. Don&#039;t give me &#039;family values&#039; and bollocks like that. How can players playing outside England have familial feelings for a club in England. Hell, let me not kid myself, no outside player would have that feeling even for United. They come to the EPL for 3 reasons:
1. Money
2. The challenge of playing in a tough league
3. And moving to one of the big 4, whoever shows sustained interest and convinces the player. And in some rare cases like Berbatov, who moved to Spurs.

Don&#039;t trust players (the foreign ones) to develop a feeling of family before joining the club. They might after playing in the club for a while, but definitely not before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Alex Dawson]</p>
<p>Your comment is anachronistic. Had you talked about pay cuts and budget buying and the like last season, I might have granted you that. Not now. Not when Hicks and Gillet themselves call Liverpool a franchise. You aren&#8217;t very different from us in that sense now. Stop being pretentious. Admit it. Don&#8217;t give me &#8216;family values&#8217; and bollocks like that. How can players playing outside England have familial feelings for a club in England. Hell, let me not kid myself, no outside player would have that feeling even for United. They come to the EPL for 3 reasons:<br />
1. Money<br />
2. The challenge of playing in a tough league<br />
3. And moving to one of the big 4, whoever shows sustained interest and convinces the player. And in some rare cases like Berbatov, who moved to Spurs.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t trust players (the foreign ones) to develop a feeling of family before joining the club. They might after playing in the club for a while, but definitely not before.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Dawson</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/why-heinze-wont-go-to-liverpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1618</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes me laugh with all these Man Utd fans thinking they are the &#039;best&#039; team ever with loads of history blah blah.

Do realise that Liverpool has soul, all players from around the world who aren&#039;t ruled by their bank accounts take pay cuts to join us... not because we can&#039;t afford it but because they know they are joining a &#039;family&#039; so to speak.  Note alot of players that could have joined other clubs on more money but once Liverpool came in it that was that.

Christiano Ronaldo even wanted to join us!!! but Ged Houllier turned him down, big mistake yes...... but Ronaldo wanted it.  You pay over rated muppets like Rio &#039;the best defender in the world my arse&#039; Ferdinand wages he does not warrant (Â£110,000 - 120,000 p.w.?)

Anyway, Heinze wouldnt have a problem joining us im sure... Even Henry said we have the most amazing fans and they send shivers down his spine when in anthem... So Man Utd fans point your stupid comments at Man City, the club who will overtake you very soon. hahahahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes me laugh with all these Man Utd fans thinking they are the &#8216;best&#8217; team ever with loads of history blah blah.</p>
<p>Do realise that Liverpool has soul, all players from around the world who aren&#8217;t ruled by their bank accounts take pay cuts to join us&#8230; not because we can&#8217;t afford it but because they know they are joining a &#8216;family&#8217; so to speak.  Note alot of players that could have joined other clubs on more money but once Liverpool came in it that was that.</p>
<p>Christiano Ronaldo even wanted to join us!!! but Ged Houllier turned him down, big mistake yes&#8230;&#8230; but Ronaldo wanted it.  You pay over rated muppets like Rio &#8216;the best defender in the world my arse&#8217; Ferdinand wages he does not warrant (Â£110,000 &#8211; 120,000 p.w.?)</p>
<p>Anyway, Heinze wouldnt have a problem joining us im sure&#8230; Even Henry said we have the most amazing fans and they send shivers down his spine when in anthem&#8230; So Man Utd fans point your stupid comments at Man City, the club who will overtake you very soon. hahahahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: Ade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funnny... Man U didnt want to pay such an high price for an overated player...

But you paid Â£28M for veron? Â£18M for Carrick? and Torres is not worth Â£20M .. ?  You are simple hilairious....   

Are you a clown or you just lack the ability to think?  

The reason Torres didnt go to Man U is simply bcos Liverpool is his preferred club... 

Just as Slivertre, Evra, Vidic prefered Man U over liverpool... 

Dont cry about it... It is part of life....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funnny&#8230; Man U didnt want to pay such an high price for an overated player&#8230;</p>
<p>But you paid Â£28M for veron? Â£18M for Carrick? and Torres is not worth Â£20M .. ?  You are simple hilairious&#8230;.   </p>
<p>Are you a clown or you just lack the ability to think?  </p>
<p>The reason Torres didnt go to Man U is simply bcos Liverpool is his preferred club&#8230; </p>
<p>Just as Slivertre, Evra, Vidic prefered Man U over liverpool&#8230; </p>
<p>Dont cry about it&#8230; It is part of life&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/why-heinze-wont-go-to-liverpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1513</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Liverpool scum can go to hell for all i care, the only reason torres joined such a shit team is that Man Utd didnâ€™t want to pay such a high price for an overrated, underperforming, inconsistant spaniard that doesnâ€™t score enough goals and doesnâ€™t set any body up on acount of his selfishness, not to mention the fact that Man Utd are on the verge of signing a much better player (and younger too) player in Tevez, so you can take your rubbish team and fuck off back up the mersey because liverpool will never be as big as manchester united.&quot;

Little Dud, you are a prick!! Are you talking about Rooney in your statement above, because I dont think he set the goalscoring cahrts alight. You must also some kind of expert on football, as the likes of Cruyf, Rickyard, Cappello and even that arsehole Ferguson have come out and praised Torres for all the things you slag him for!! you should go for teh England job you dick!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Liverpool scum can go to hell for all i care, the only reason torres joined such a shit team is that Man Utd didnâ€™t want to pay such a high price for an overrated, underperforming, inconsistant spaniard that doesnâ€™t score enough goals and doesnâ€™t set any body up on acount of his selfishness, not to mention the fact that Man Utd are on the verge of signing a much better player (and younger too) player in Tevez, so you can take your rubbish team and fuck off back up the mersey because liverpool will never be as big as manchester united.&#8221;</p>
<p>Little Dud, you are a prick!! Are you talking about Rooney in your statement above, because I dont think he set the goalscoring cahrts alight. You must also some kind of expert on football, as the likes of Cruyf, Rickyard, Cappello and even that arsehole Ferguson have come out and praised Torres for all the things you slag him for!! you should go for teh England job you dick!!</p>
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		<title>By: Little Dud</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/why-heinze-wont-go-to-liverpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1442</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Dud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liverpool scum can go to hell for all i care, the only reason torres joined such a shit team is that Man Utd didn&#039;t want to pay such a high price for an overrated, underperforming, inconsistant spaniard that doesn&#039;t score enough goals and doesn&#039;t set any body up on acount of his selfishness, not to mention the fact that Man Utd are on the verge of signing a much better player (and younger too) player in Tevez, so you can take your rubbish team and fuck off back up the mersey because liverpool will never be as big as manchester united.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liverpool scum can go to hell for all i care, the only reason torres joined such a shit team is that Man Utd didn&#8217;t want to pay such a high price for an overrated, underperforming, inconsistant spaniard that doesn&#8217;t score enough goals and doesn&#8217;t set any body up on acount of his selfishness, not to mention the fact that Man Utd are on the verge of signing a much better player (and younger too) player in Tevez, so you can take your rubbish team and fuck off back up the mersey because liverpool will never be as big as manchester united.</p>
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		<title>By: fernando torres</title>
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		<dc:creator>fernando torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liverpool forever.....i will knock u off your perch fergie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liverpool forever&#8230;..i will knock u off your perch fergie</p>
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		<title>By: Man United Football Blog</title>
		<link>http://redrants.com/why-heinze-wont-go-to-liverpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1334</link>
		<dc:creator>Man United Football Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 08:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Great Position Debate: Left Back...&lt;/strong&gt;

This series investigates who will play where next season at Manchester United.  I look at each player that can play in each position before deciding who will star next season and who will be out the door.  We&#8217;ll start the debate at left back as t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Great Position Debate: Left Back&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This series investigates who will play where next season at Manchester United.  I look at each player that can play in each position before deciding who will star next season and who will be out the door.  We&#8217;ll start the debate at left back as t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 05:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ur all funny in ur definitions of super clubs...notice that i didnt use that term in my previous posts...i somehow agree with the hex red in his definition...both man u and liv qualify to be one...i wont b dishonest enuff to say that 2 CL finals in 3 yrs is not a good achievement, but was reaching the CL final last season liverpool&#039;s main aim? at the start of the season people were tipping them as chelsea&#039;s main title challengers, yet they didnt even challenge for the title.  u cant claim to be europe&#039;s best and a dominant force when u cant even win in ur own league, and yes, beat the likes of wigan, reading and newcastle.  were u the second best team in europe last season?? were u even better than chelsea? u got to the final on penalties man!! man u beat u twice last season!! so can u legitimately claim that u were better than man u?? i wont claim man u was the best team in europe either..we were outplayed by milan (though i dont think we would have been have all our defenders been fit and playing)...and as i told u winning 4 in an era when nottingham forest and aston villa won it isnt that big an achievement.  

and yeah dont talk as if SAF never won the CL...he did in glorious fashion in 1999...united were unbeaten and scored in all their games...u know despite we won only 2 we r the best supported club in the world...even more than real madrid!  most of the greatest players ever in british football have worn the red shirt of manchester!!  

also, if u really did witness some of liverpool&#039;s title triumphs, u will remember that even u did have to beat the likes of watford and sheffied wednesday to win the title!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ur all funny in ur definitions of super clubs&#8230;notice that i didnt use that term in my previous posts&#8230;i somehow agree with the hex red in his definition&#8230;both man u and liv qualify to be one&#8230;i wont b dishonest enuff to say that 2 CL finals in 3 yrs is not a good achievement, but was reaching the CL final last season liverpool&#8217;s main aim? at the start of the season people were tipping them as chelsea&#8217;s main title challengers, yet they didnt even challenge for the title.  u cant claim to be europe&#8217;s best and a dominant force when u cant even win in ur own league, and yes, beat the likes of wigan, reading and newcastle.  were u the second best team in europe last season?? were u even better than chelsea? u got to the final on penalties man!! man u beat u twice last season!! so can u legitimately claim that u were better than man u?? i wont claim man u was the best team in europe either..we were outplayed by milan (though i dont think we would have been have all our defenders been fit and playing)&#8230;and as i told u winning 4 in an era when nottingham forest and aston villa won it isnt that big an achievement.  </p>
<p>and yeah dont talk as if SAF never won the CL&#8230;he did in glorious fashion in 1999&#8230;united were unbeaten and scored in all their games&#8230;u know despite we won only 2 we r the best supported club in the world&#8230;even more than real madrid!  most of the greatest players ever in british football have worn the red shirt of manchester!!  </p>
<p>also, if u really did witness some of liverpool&#8217;s title triumphs, u will remember that even u did have to beat the likes of watford and sheffied wednesday to win the title!!!</p>
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