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As the dust settles…

It’s been slightly over a month now since our dismantling at the hands of Barcelona. Yet, the pain has been eased (or blotted out depending on your preferred perspective) somewhat by our activity in the transfer market thus far. While most of our major rivals have yet to make a big money signing (Chelsea did get Villas Boas for a pretty penny), we’ve gone ahead and clinched the signatures of Jones, Young and De Gea.

Despite De Gea being the only one who really filled a need, fans have just as much to be excited about over the signings of the 2 Englishmen.

Phil Jones

I for one cannot wait to see Jones out on the field in the red jersey. How we’ve longed for some toughness in our squad when for so long now, Vidic has been our primary and some may argue, only source of that. Soft in the middle has been a mantra that opposition fans have taunted us with over the past couple of seasons. Unfortunately, that has been true more often than not since Hargreaves was down and out for the count. Jones might be the player who changes all that.

Will he be the second coming of Keano? One can only hope.

Will he be able to emulate Hargo in the way he protected our back four and snuffed out the attack headed toward our goal? Maybe in time. I hope that we give him a go from early on in midfield just to get him more game time and better acclimated to the rigors of the league and the expectation that comes with putting on the famous red strip.

Ashley Young

Young doesn’t need much of an introduction since we’ve seen him time and time again for Villa. He’s demonstrated his ability to not shy away from the big stage with some huge performances for England recently. Considering the claim that most English players retreat into a shell when they play for the 3 lions, we can be encouraged that Young has not shirked away when cast into the spotlight. That will do us a world of good when we’re up against our major rivals domestically and in Europe and need a spark of inspiration from somewhere.

A New Playmaker?

As with most United fans, the one signing we’re all still waiting for is the eventual successor to Paul Scholes. Despite Cleverley’s claim to want to fill that position for United, he might not be quite ready. Then again, it’s hard to see any player really ever be like Scholes. From the get go, a fairer expectation would be to ask for a player who can come in and excel creatively behind our forwards while not being afraid to get stuck in and defend deep when needed. It does appear (at time of writing) that Nasri is on his way to City. It still befuddles me that Wenger would be so adamant about not selling him to us, and yet, be willing to let him go to City. Does that mean that Wenger does not consider City as an equal to Arsenal? Based on the transfer fee that’s being thrown around, it appears to be a figure or valuation that we are more than willing to meet. If the deal for Nasri to the other half of Manchester goes through, we will have to move on quickly as the other top clubs start to narrow down and place concrete bids for the players on their shopping list. And we know from the past couple of seasons how unwilling United is to get into a bidding war.

If it all falls apart and we end up starting next season with only the 3 new signings, will that be enough? We addressed the Van Der Sar replacement issue and got the man we wanted. But if we don’t get our replacement for Scholes, can we have a successful season playing Rooney in that role? Or perhaps attempt to somehow integrate someone like Nani or Young into that position and hope they do the job? Maybe Cleverley comes out and surprises everyone with his play? Perhaps we could just promote from within and allow Ravel Morrison to have a breakout season?

The new season can’t come soon enough…




  1. Jonny

    2 July 2011 at 16:10


    you going to get to the United/Sounders game? i would totally go if i was there, but i dont get back till the middle of August.

  2. Jonny

    2 July 2011 at 16:36

    all seven of Chicharito’s goals in the Gold Cup (sorry if this was already posted)

  3. colver

    2 July 2011 at 16:42

    All I can say is that I am hoping that people stick around. While there are indeed 40 million fans it is the fans on here that I like best because they are intelligent, passionate and above all individualistic. There is no party line. There is no consensus. People spell correctly. They punctuate.

    It feels I know everyone here….from the youthful optimism and wild enthusiasms of Eddy to the professorial tones of Jay Wire pontificating for the a billionth time on the much under appreciated Michael Carrick to the anarchistic writing of Grognard criticizing Glazer, Fergie and half our team!

    From the owners point of view it makes no difference who stays and who goes as they are of course hoping that these changes will attract a wider audience, more exposure, more advertisements or however else they make their money. I’m aware this isn’t a public charity so in that respect the content is king.

    Will RedRants retain its small community feel where everyone knows everyone and has done for years? Or will it be flooded by newcomers while the old regulars fade away.

    I guess we will have to wait and see!

  4. Rimmerstweets

    2 July 2011 at 17:02

    So basically no matter what I say you’re going to continue on the bandwagon and you’ll find something that you don’t like anyway so I’m pissing in the wind?

    I’m actually tired of trying to explain it because some of you just want to have an argument, but then that’s the way the internet works isn’t it, it gives people a certain safety barrier so they can behave in a way that they no doubt would not behave were they on the other end of a phone or face-to-face. Maybe I should just make any changes I want and risk losing a few people who don’t like me anyway?

    Basically, all I’m asking is you start to talk about the article/football and do it in a way that doesn’t piss me or other members off… that too much to ask or did you earn the right to say what you want without moderation while you were saving the site from certain collapse?

    Like me or not I’ve been given a job to do and I’m going to do it regardless of my popularity, and I hope to introduce many more people into the community, but at present I get the feeling that a few of the community believe that THEY are RedRants and believe their own hype. 20 regular members is a shocking figure for a site with the potential of this. I think my treatment is just an example of what certain members do to people who try to enter THEIR territory, hence why you only have 20 regulars.

    It doesn’t need to be like that.

    There’s not much talk about the new image banners from the rebels? Yet you can’t deny they’re really, really very good and the site looks better for them…..but that wouldn’t be so interesting to talk about or score as many points with your fellow rebels as telling me ‘How it is’ would it?

    Come on guys, get down off the roof, put EVERYTHING to one side and give it a chance. Don’t even reply to this just let this be the end of it and move on to a friendly, more respectful community, starting from now… included.


  5. Rimmerstweets

    2 July 2011 at 17:05

    Hopefully @Colver the two can merge together….it just needs to be allowed to.

  6. Phoenix Red

    2 July 2011 at 17:28

    @ Rimmerstweets:
    Ok, fair enough, lets move on…… but where is Johnsom? He has told me an hour ago that he still cant post on RedRants, so maybe sort that out and we’ll all try this again for everyones sakes. 😈 For the record, i do like the new Image Banners.

  7. Rimmerstweets

    2 July 2011 at 17:36

    I was in the middle of emailing Johnsom while you were writing that last comment @Phoenix.

    It’s in his inbox if he hasn’t already read it and he is now free to login.

    BTW, you were next on the warning list :mrgreen: !!

    Please use your platform to make everyone welcome and create a friendly environment, you have the ability to set the tone on here, as does @Grognard, due to your popularity.

    Thanks guys

  8. Traverse

    2 July 2011 at 17:36

    Rimmerstweets, to be honest I don’t know where you’ve come from, but I am in no way interested in someone busting in here and playing dictator. I very much doubt the COMMUNITY we have built up in here are either.

    So you continue to take the ad money and not fuck the place up (can we have the reply button back already), and we’ll continue to make the site worth people coming to.

    How does that sound?

  9. Traverse

    2 July 2011 at 17:40

    In actual football news, I’ve got a sneaky feeling we might well get Nasri and M’Villa for £20mil and £15mil rather than Sneijder for £35.

  10. Rimmerstweets

    2 July 2011 at 17:42

    So basically Traverse, you’ve had something on your chest and thought “I know, when I login I’m going to say this….”

    Then, you’ve logged in and not bothered your arse to read through the posts because you’re lazy.

    Read comment number 80. Then think about editing your comment.

    Cheers mate

    Jesus it’s one after the other!!

  11. Jonny

    2 July 2011 at 18:06

    the only decent video of M’Villa on youtube that i found after looking for.. 2 minutes

    nasri has enough videos that you’ve probably seen some of them already. definitely looks like a highly skilled player with fantastic ball control/

  12. Owen

    2 July 2011 at 18:07

    Interesting line coming out of France as L’Equipe claim Samir Nasri has rejected Arsenal’s contract offer. Manchester United appear to be in pole position

  13. Jonny

    2 July 2011 at 18:11


    what do you wanna bet that someone will claim mistranslation in the next little bit?

    Why do people not like Nasri? is it because he is smug? is it because he got in scholes’ face that one time?

    i’ve never held disdain for him, but then again i don’t know much of him, other than what youtube will show me and what i recollect of him from games vs united

  14. johnsom33

    2 July 2011 at 18:35

    Guys Im not banned, just went for a walk about 😉 . This whole thing has been completely over blown and I definitely had my fair share in it. I appreciate everyone who reached out to me, especially Grognard and Rimmers At this point the matter is closed and not worth discussing anymore. Lets get back to the football shall we?

  15. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 18:45

    Craig, bro, enough with the drama. I am the same person I always have been but I did realize even before my altercation with Ian that my actions and my temper have often gotten out of control on here and that is why I also apologized to Johnsom and Eddy for having argue with them over the past few weeks.

    My change in attitude has nothing to do with Ian and trust me, he is not holding a gun to my head. If I get pissed off, believe me, I will not hold back but all I am saying is that I believe the lad is decent chap and he deserves a fair chance and we all should give him one. Yes I too believe he needs to end his mini reign of terror with all the banishment stuff but given time, he will understand and so will we and all things will be simpatico.

    After my infamous run in with him and my subsequent banning and then return. it is clear to me that people are on edge here. That is for Ian to calm minds and feelings down but I for one am glad to be back and have not changes my attitude towards football, the Glazer’s, Fergie or anything United. I’m just going to be more respectful of others views and try to curtail my temper a bit. That is a personal decision and has nothing to do with Ian or the blog.

    I just started disliking myself on here and how I thought I had support when in fact I didn’t on some of my crusades. My anger towards JayWire was legit and I believe correct but very few people supported me. Instead I looked like a schmuck when I went to war without an army. Well, lets just say that humiliation taught me something about myself, this blog and the whole membership. But I can only control what is inside me and I for one have decided to be a little gentler and kinder. Now stop whining and get back to debating football bro. RedRants needs all of us, especially the “OLD GUARD” which of course has french name, “Grognards”. So in a sense you, RedRich, Eddy, Stephen, Johnsom, Onkar, PhoenizRed, TonyMontana and the rest are all grognards and as grognards we all must stick it out and fight as a whole. VIV LE RED RANTS! 😆

  16. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 18:55

    Owen: Seriously man, how have I become a pussy cat? Because I speak with some wisdom and because I am trying to be fair and put the health of this blog before myself? Read my reply to Craig and you will realize that my change in temperament has very little if anything to do with Ian or being banned. I will still fucking swear and show my dislike for things that piss me off about United and football but all I am saying is that rather than jump down your throat because you made an insulting comment to me or went off on one of your anti-German anti Michael Ballack rants, I will take a breath and respond in a gentler tone and try to be less abrasive.

    I realized over the last few weeks that despite my significant presence on the blog and my contributions, that my popularity is only 50/50. Some like me and agree with me and then there are those out there like yourself who don’t really care for what I have to say and don’t jump on my band wagon. I don’t need to be liked by all but over the last little while I felt I was losing the respect of many of you as well. Then I got banned and it made me realize just how important the blog and it’s members are to me and so I am back but with more respect for all of you and with a little smaller chip on my shoulder.

    Don’t get me wrong, I am still 100% correct in all debates 😉 ;), but now at least I won’t try to shove those views down people’s throats. I would think you and others would embrace my gentler personality instead of being freaked out by it. 😆

  17. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 19:17

    Jonny, sorry mate but no way to I place a penny of my hard earned cash in the Glazer’s promotional fund. I love the team and all but the business sid of things has turned me off of supporting the club financially. Not until they are gone will I spend a dime on United. They could play in my back yard and I wouldn’t show up to watch.

  18. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 19:34

    ACHTUNG ACHTUNG!!!!! Grognard here. Listen mates, all of you, lets all just calm down shall we. I have been pleading my case as well as Ian’s to death but all of you have become like me before my little epiphany. Think before you speak and above all, think about what you want and how hard it is to get back what we have here by leaving the blog because your pride and tempers got the better of you all.

    I know to many of you I am sounding a bit like a hypocrite because my temper and intolerance for things is infamous and epic, but the truth is as much as this community we built here is golden, the truth is CONTENT IS KING. Without the content (basically Man Utd and football) there is no real reason to be on here despite everyone’s respect and fondness for each other. Owen, Travers, and all the rest of you bring up very strong and valid points against content being number one but it really is. We are all friends because of our connection to Man Utd, therefore, Man Utd is King.

    I seriously doubt Ian is going to lose it if a few of us share some non football conversations provided they do not run forever. After all, if I think Bad Teacher is a good movie and urge many of you to go see it, I do not think he would have a problem with that. But if I run on about my religious beliefs or why I think Obama is a great President, well that really has nothing to do with this blog and it’s theme.

    Lets just stop being so on the defense and give the man a chance to show you all that this blog will improve and he will also calm himself down as he gets more familiar with all of us and vice versa.

    I respect and like every one of you except a certain party that will remain nameless so I plead with all of you not for my sake or Ian’s but for the future of this blog to lay down your weapons and make peace. Lets get back to talking football and lets show some patience as Ina tries to iron out technical issues with the blog. I wouldn’t be exposing myself for ridicule and a stoning if I were not confident and assured that Ian’s intentions for the blog and all of us are honorable. But we also need to let our pride calm down and just go with it. Frankly, I just want to get back to footy talk.

  19. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 19:40

    Johnsom, mate am I glad to see you back. And I second those emotions. 🙂

  20. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 19:51

    Now regarding footy, I just can’t help but laugh at how things have totally declined for the once proud and arrogant Arsenal. Wenger used to touch things and make them gold now they turn into pumpkins. He has a team that performs as good as they are, not under performs as many seem to think, and now he looks certain to lose his two best players and Clichy as well, and what has he replaced them with?

    I know I go on and on about the Glazer’s but thank god for Fergie at least he knows what he is doing and due to his man management and ability to field a compettive and proud team, we continue to win where the Arse looks to be sliding right out of top four consideration.

    Bottom line is Arsenal needs major changes, not just in players, but in business attitude and in Wenger’s long and short term planning. The nothing but youth movement for me has failed and the board’s inability or unwillingness to give Wenger serious transfer money has turned the Voyeur
    into a nervous and rather lethargic shadow of his former self. These days you see the strain and pressure on him as it shows on his face and in his body language. And now he stands to lose his creative midfield with no plan A to replace them.

    Don’t get me wrong, I do not feel sorry for any manager or team that stubbornly sits on it’s laurels a does nothing to improve itself. What did Wenger think would happen if he went more than a few seasons without any threat of silverware? You snooze and you lose. I may not like a lot of the signings Fergie has been making but at least he is being proactive and trying to improve the club. For four year snow Arsenal has needed a true #1 keeper and they still don’t look to sign one. That’s not just stubbornly naive, that is idiotic. So despite the Glazer’s, it’s a relief to be a United supporter these days. At least we all have reason to wake up in the morning.

  21. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 19:55

    I am starting to believe that many on here are misunderstanding what Ian means by “Content is King”. I do not believe for a minute that he means his or others lead threads are king and that we need to comment on those written articles that start a thread. I think he means that football and United in general is King because this is a Man Utd blog. So lets not misunderstand his intentions. He just means that he wants us to stay on topic, which is football. And I am fine with that.

  22. Owen

    2 July 2011 at 20:04

    Have you become his official spokesman Grog or are you trying to please him to not get banned again?

    He himself can make us understand and already had please don’t act like a teacher.It makes you look fool.

  23. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 20:51

    Owen: See I cannot reason with you either. I think you should know me well enough to know that I am nobody’s lackey or lap dog. I am a free thinker but I also am logical and clear thinking when I temper my emotions. Ian is counting on my support the way he is hoping all of us will support him. Nothing more. Yes he and I have come to a greater understanding due to e-mail conversations but the only reason I am jumping in and being the “fool” you claim I am is because I am one of the group and he needs somebody within that group to act as a go between because nobody seems to want to give him a chance to properly show his intentions. Instead everybody wants to war. So don’t accuse me of anything like being anybody’s bitch mate. I am think for myself and act for myself and the health of this blog is what matters most to me.

  24. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 20:53

    It amazes me how everyone is thinking I have sold out just because I am not acting like an ornery and miserable old bastard. For all those out there who used to bitch about my temper and intolerance, now it seems my fairness and tolerance is offending you even more. Christ I can’t win for losing. 🙄

  25. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 21:03

    This is just too funny for words. Wenger must be nearing a stroke. 😆 😆

  26. Traverse

    2 July 2011 at 21:15

    @rimmerstweets. I would read things if I could click the reply link people use to bomb around this place and read the interesting things. Am I going to read your wet ‘we’ll I’m in charge now so there’ mega post? No. Cause I’m already imagining that’s what it was.

    There may be 40 million United fans. If you think they are all going to now come here because you put a like/dislike button (and by put, I mean clicked the tickbox to turn it on in your CMS), and removed one of the most used features on the site then you are sorely mistaken.

    Here’s a very very simple way to run a successful blog. Leave us to it. Get Eddie Griffin to write ALL the articles.


  27. Traverse

    2 July 2011 at 21:21

    @Grognard Arsenal are a shower. Five years of Wenger telling players that this year they are more experienced and that this year is their year is too many. If Arsenal don’t replace Fabregas with a top top name, which Arsene wont, then Arsenal fans are going to have finally had enough of The Prof and his dumb projects.

    And on his project, we’re kicking him while he’s down by doing it ourselves. Better.

    De Gea, Smalling, Jones, Evans, Fabio, Rafael, Anderson, Hernandez are all young talented players. Arsenal have Wilshire and Ramsey. Imagine if we had those players?! We’d be unstoppable. But Wenger surrounds them with weakness, and they win nothing.

  28. Grognard

    2 July 2011 at 22:21

    Traverse: It really is funny the way Wenger seemed to lose the golden touch he had his first 8 or 9 years with the club. From the invincible’s to the invisible’s. He forgot the golden rule to his previous success. You build a team around highly skilled but experienced players and you bring youth in slowly. What happened to the Tony Adams’, Ray Parlour’s Patrick Vieira;s of his previously successful runs? He needed the substance and experience they brought as well as the grit. There present squad have no stomach for a fight and quit easily. I am not a fan of Nasri because I think he is soft and I feel Wenger has softened him even more.

  29. RedDevilEddy

    2 July 2011 at 23:46

    For all the people who come here and say that Owen only writes bullshit, have a look at comment 96. Probably one of the best ones for a while, well done Owen mate! 🙂

  30. Moscow is my heaven

    3 July 2011 at 00:34

    I second Eddy’s sentiment, that post was absolutely gold Owen mi man.

    On a separate note:


  31. doctorgreg

    3 July 2011 at 01:31

    join united fans on blackberry by inviting 2568AB02, ping and send “invite”. keep loving united.

  32. johnsom33

    3 July 2011 at 04:13

  33. Jonny

    3 July 2011 at 05:11


    not a single quote. you know they’d give a quote if they could too… rubbish

  34. jos

    3 July 2011 at 05:25

    The slave has spoken:

    Real Madrid star Cristiano Ronaldo has declared he intends to return to the Premier League in the future.

    Ronaldo, who left Manchester United for Madrid in an £80million transfer two years ago, was ­flattered by Manchester City’s ­discreet overtures to him earlier in the summer.

    But before the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham launch their recruitment funds to sign one of the world’s greatest players, they should read how he sees his future plans.

    Ronaldo said: “I think if I went from Spain it would be to the Premier League – but not now. First we have to win the Champions League. If I went back to the ­Premier League it would have to be with a club in the north west. I don’t like London.”

    That would clearly put City – or his old club United – in pole ­position.

    Ronaldo also spoke of City’s offer.

    Ronaldo went on: “It’s flattering to be offered like £20m a year – it’s very good, but I spoke to my agent and I think it’s better to stay in ­Madrid because this year we’re going to be the best. This ­season we are going to be a big force. Jose Mourinho is staying at Madrid so I stay. If he went to Chelsea then I would have left. I would have gone to Manchester City. But now he’s staying, I’m ­staying.”

    So he’d go to city!!! The twat. Fuck him.

  35. Grognard

    3 July 2011 at 05:26

    Johnsom: No quotes because most of the stuff online is nothing but bold faced lies and science fiction or fantasy. If we want truth, we wait a few days or a week and listen to an interview Fergie will give while on the North American tour where he will claim that transfer business is done for this season and that he likes the look of his team and does not see the need to buy anyone else yadda yadda yadda, etc etc etc. Same old tune and same old bald face show of denial. I fully expect it.

  36. Grognard

    3 July 2011 at 05:32

    Jos: All that tells me mate is that he is not entirely happy at Madrid and only his respect for Mourinho is keeping him there. Trust me when I say he has no intentions of going to City and never has. But one has to be courteous and complimentary of any team that throws money like that at you. He was being respectful. I have no doubt that if he comes back it will be to Man Utd. And works out perfectly for him because he would either return to Fergie or when Mourinho takes over at OT, which I believe is more than a 50/50 chance. If either of those two are managing United, do you honestly think he would pick a lame bunch pillocks like Shitty? I don’t think so mate, he has more class and better taste than that. Besides, he’d really look gay in baby blue. 😀

  37. Stephen

    3 July 2011 at 07:48

    Grognard, It is Mourinho why he wants to leave, he has shackled him and he doesn’t like it. We all know Charlton would never have Mourinho at United.

  38. Stephen

    3 July 2011 at 08:02

    One thing content is certainly not King. There is only one King and that is King Eric.. 😆 😆

  39. Stephen

    3 July 2011 at 08:04

    Ronaldo has yet again proven the fact he only cares about himself and his wallet, United legend never.

  40. jos

    3 July 2011 at 10:10

    @Grog: I hope what you say is true coz if evr he moves to city he’ll be dead to me!
    I was one of the early ronaldo converts. That was in 2004, I was in Germany at that time, working for one of the technology greats (an american company). My boss was Portuguese, and I told her Ronaldo will become the best player in the world. This was the time of Euro 2004.
    Anywayz hope hes not become a cunt big enough to play for citty.

  41. Grognard

    3 July 2011 at 16:55

    Stephen: Honestly, don’t believe everything you read. The man scored over 50 goals this year and had double figures in assists. Now seriously, does that look to you like a player who has been shackled by his manager. I’m sorry but that’s just rubbish. I think where the problem lies with Ronaldo at Madrid is the pressure to perform has made him a little more selfish and with a tunnel vision for just scoring goals and because of that he has alienated some of his teammates. For that reason I think he would willingly leave Madrid if not for the support of Mourinho who has praised him over and over and who calls him the hardest worker he has ever had the chance to manage.

  42. Grognard

    3 July 2011 at 16:58

    Jos: Even if he was tempted by the money at City, I don’t think he has the guts to live in a city where half the town would try to murder him. The money is not worth the grief and besides, I honestly believe in my heart and mind that there is no other British team for him but United. He loves and respects Fergie too much to ever go to City.

  43. Stephen

    3 July 2011 at 18:54

    I think you are blinded by you love for both Mourinho and Ronaldo and are desperate for it to work. Ronaldo wanted out at United a season beforw he left, this is fact. He agreed with Blatter who referred that he was a slave. He was derperate to play for his boyhood club Real, so he is a Real whore and for me he is cunt and was alwsays was. Open your eyes to your Mourinho and Ronaldo lovefest they do not play for the club you support so why do you love them so much? 😯 😐 They are both idiots and not United.

  44. Phoenix Red

    4 July 2011 at 12:25

    @ Stephen, ha ha ha, 😆 😆 😆 you tell them Bro! It sickens me how some United fans still go on about Ronaldo, he’s an idiot! Definitely not a legend!

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