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Can United win the lot this season?

A slightly unexpected defeat at home to Spurs and a typically difficult encounter leading to defeat at Goodison on the opening day (well Monday….again!) of the season are the only blemishes on an apparently shaky start to United’s season.

One thing’s for sure, Everton away is no gimme and Spurs beating us at OT has been coming for a few years now, neither game was a guaranteed three points. In truth I’d say that after 9 games of the season we’re sitting just about where we should be in terms of ‘points on the board’.

In the Champions league we’re sitting pretty at the top of Group H needing (you would think) just one more point to secure a safe passage through to the knockout stages.

A decent outing by United’s youthful Capital Cup side saw Newcastle United brushed aside with Chelsea waiting for United on Wednesday night, again at Stamford Bridge, who I sense have a desire to win the trophy for just the fifth time in their history.

Needless to say United will be hoping for a decent run in the FA Cup commencing in January but will no doubt be handed tricky away ties with Premier league opponents rather than more romantic visits to the more needy in the land such as perhaps Rotherham, Hartlepool or Shrewsbury Town (to name but a few)….it just doesn’t seem to happen (pre-refrigerated balls anyone?).

Of course United will be looking to add to their record 11 FA Cup triumphs – but what does this season realistically hold for us? Where can this squad take us come May 2013? Can we reach the promised land? Will we win more than one trophy or will we suffer an anti-climactic end by finishing empty handed?

More to the point, what would YOU prefer we won, given the choice?

Me personally I just want the league back, anything else is a bonus. I think today’s 3-2 victory over Chelsea on their own turf could play a huge part in bringing the PL back to Old Trafford after we temporarily surrendered it to the Bitter half of Manchester who coincidentally should be ashamed of themselves after booing their team off at halftime yesterday…..I think you Berties should remember where you are and what’s happened to you over the last few years and understand that (the booing) would never have happened before you won the football lottery (that’s if you were actually Blue back then). Thank goodness there were plenty of empty seats or the booing could’ve got really out of hand!

Anyway, enough about them, back to the real pride of Manchester. I doubt we’ve got what it takes to win the Champions League although as we saw last season, if your name’s on the trophy – it’s on the trophy!

What’s your opinion? Let us know in the comments section after you’ve voted.

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  1. cleggster

    October 28, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Premier league. With a full fit squad for the rest of the season, i’ll be greedy and would like the treble…. Hmmmmmmmmm.

  2. Moscow

    October 28, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    We still need two midfielders.

  3. colver

    October 29, 2012 at 1:14 am

    Well Premier League is the main competition for me. Manchester City don’t seem to be gelling and Mancini looks like he is on course for an exit.

    Chelsea are our main rivals. You can’t realy read anything into today. They are still top of the table and the pacesetters. But they often start the season incredibly strong before running into problems. The main danger is that they sign Falcao in January.

    English teams have lost serious ground in Europe the last couple seasons and technically and tactically we just can’t compete. Experience is so vital and our young players seriously look out of their depth in Europe. At least this season we will qualify for the knockout stage (thanks to a group so easy even we can’t screw it up!).

  4. Redrich

    October 29, 2012 at 1:46 am

    Winning the PL for the 20th time is passe. Winning the CL and claiming rights over Barca and Real is the holy grail.

  5. nelson in south africa

    October 29, 2012 at 6:01 am

    I think da league is more important but the manager should trust the partnership of cleverly and anderson in midfield n rooney n rvp upfront n young n valncia wide then we can challenge the champions league

  6. The_Philosopher

    October 29, 2012 at 7:43 am

    Winning the Premier league is the most important for me. Especially since RVP joined us to win the 20th title (He even put 20 on his back for it).

    At the beggining of the season I was hoping we would do the treble again one last time under Fergie. His time is drawing to an end.

    But when I try to think soberly about it I find it hard to imagine because of the average midfield we have. We can’t win all three with the squad we currently have I don’t think.

    And I even find it difficult to believe that we deserve to win the treble with squad that we have.

    We might be able to win the league, and that would be more testament to Sir Alex’s genius than our squad’s quality.

    But who knows, maybe there’s more to this squad than meets the eye.

  7. CL

    October 29, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Champions league for me, it is the biggest challenge and hardest to win and noting beats the feeling of winning a cup. A league don’t have that last-minute tension you know. (expect last season but that was just horrible)

  8. dashtylad

    October 29, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    The premier league is the most realistic option to pick.. But the question is this squad capable of doing more?! Can the run the extra mile to win things?!

    In my opinion and based on the performances of this season it seems like the squad is on an increasing curve in term of understanding each other ability and adopting into a new style of play with tremendous amount of competition for a starting place all over the pitch.. Plus, young group of players wh have had their share of a disappointing season in Europe las season and they are getting better all the time now, mixed with great experience in the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Rio, Rooney, Evra, RVP and Kagawa.. So there is a light in the end of the tunnel for this squad and with the way they are improving game by game I don’t really know where can they go. But one thing for certain is they are after big things and SAF made this clear in the start of the season.

    CL+PL should be within a strike distance for this squad.. Youth might do well in domestic cups. Sky is the limit.

  9. colver

    October 29, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    We won’t win the champions league because our defence is a shadow of what it once was in 2008. OK with Van Persie we have the sort of firepower we had in the Ronaldo days. But our central midfield is no better than it was in those days and arguably a lot worse as Scholes and Giggs are a lot older, Anderson hasn’t improved at all, and Cleverley is seriously lightweight.

    The Premier League however is attainable if we can just plug the gaps in defence and somehow keep our players fit enough to form some sort of understanding.

  10. Opti

    October 29, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Site. is. sooooo. slooooow… almost unbearable… Am I the only one that has this slow-down.

    • Ian

      October 30, 2012 at 8:44 am

      I’m on it.

      • Ian

        October 31, 2012 at 10:07 am


        • Opti

          October 31, 2012 at 3:41 pm

          @Ian: It does seem to load faster. For the record and what it’s worth, I like the new format.

          Have you seen’s new format… now, that’s slick despite the awful colors 🙂 A little Red could fix that 🙂

  11. Jay wire

    October 31, 2012 at 10:49 am

    In all these things I’m really trying to figure out how Kagawa fits in. I wish I was wrong when I predicted that he’s gonna be the next Berbatov. Clearly Ferguson has no idea how to use him and get an optimal return. As long as he can’t trust him to play in the hole, we might as well cut our losses because there really isn’t anywhere else to play him. I’d go for the Chelsea system. 3 attackers behind the main striker. Two midfielders behind them, one shielding the defence one linking the attackers. The 3 attackers being Kagawa,Rooney and Nani or Tony. No rigid positioning when in possession but free flowing movement around RVP. When defending they fall into positions. Rooney left,Kagawa central and Nani right. But Kagawa should be trusted as our main creative force in attack. Else why did we get him

    • Moscow

      October 31, 2012 at 11:32 am

      @Jay wire: Totally agreed.

    • The_Philosopher

      October 31, 2012 at 12:24 pm

      @Jay wire:
      I hear that. Kagawa can only play behind the striker. He isn’t as useful on the wings. So we should only play him behind RVP, Welbeck, Chicha or Rooney.

      But then what do you do with Rooney?
      What say we get Lars Bender and pair him up with Rooney behind the three in support of the lead striker? Rooney can do the central linking and Lars can provide cover for the defenders.

      Other than that I have no idea what to do with Kagawa either. He’s too good to play out of position or to languish on the bench. 🙄

  12. Moscow

    October 31, 2012 at 11:33 am

    Ian, my vote would go towards getting the format back to what it was.

    • Ian

      October 31, 2012 at 3:03 pm

      How do you mean?

  13. colver

    October 31, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    The problem is that while Kagaya is a superb player Rooney is even better playing in the hole and playing Rooney out wide is a total waste (as is true of playing Kagaya out wide).

    It was a pretty dumb signing. The only way he is going to get a game in his best position is if Rooney or Van Persie get injured.

    Really the £17 million should have gone towards buying a quality defensive midfielder to reduce our overreliance on Carrick.

    • The_Philosopher

      October 31, 2012 at 1:45 pm

      Rooney doesn’t trump Kagawa hands down. Kagawa’s passing is more incisive. And Kagawa can turn tighter corners(like Giggs used to in his day) than Rooney. Problem with Kagawa being of slighter build than Rooney means that he can be marked right out of a game.

      Rooney, however, is more intense, less susceptable to bullying or physical challenges and is a genuine game changer on his day. Problem is sometimes he isn’t fully effective behind the striker. He struggles sometimes finding openings. Kagawa is a keener locksmith. Rooney has more on than off days though.

  14. Moscow

    October 31, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    Kagawa should start when we are resting one of RVP or Rooney. Say if RVP/Rooney is injured or rested, we play 4-5-1 with Rooney/RVP up front with Kagawa in the hole. Valencia, Young and Nani should be our only wingers, we can rotate them as we wish. Pack the midfield with Carrick and a physical midfielder and we’re good.

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