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Chelsea Becomes Latest Victim of United’s ‘Pitchkrieg’

Well, it seemed like another day ‘out back of wood shed’ with Chelsea being the latest victim fed to the wood chipper. Sounds better than another day in the office or walk in the park I think.  Manchester United took care of business and disposed of Chelsea in what must go down as one of the most exciting end-to-end matches between the sides.  This game had a bit of everything and it could easily have ended up in a 5-5 draw.  Both teams played well offensively and both had numerous scoring chances but in the end the difference was our width and our touch of class when it comes to finishing off our chances even though we were wasteful today and oh so very sloppy.

 

But before I comment on the game and what we have learned from it and what we can take forward with this win, let me first shout out loud in complete anger at the clown act mistaken for officiating today.  Phil Dowd has to be amongst the worst referees in the history of the Premiership.  Every time I see a game refereed by him I just cringe and that goes for the muppets he uses as linesman who yes, gifted United the first goal as it was offside.  But still, it couldn’t happen to better bunch of ass clowns than Team Romansodov.

Simply put, the Ashley Cole tackle on Chicharito was far more than red card offence.  Instead, it was borderline criminal.  I am truly and thankfully amazed that he never broke the lads leg or caused another serious injury to him comparable to say Eduardo’s infamous leg break.  Who cares if it should have been a red card and a penalty, this bastard must be dealt with by the FA regardless of what Dowd did about it.  Now is the time for the FA to show us there is not a concerted effort to conspire against United.  How can the FA suspend Evra, Rooney and Fergie for nothing at all and allow a player to get off who clearly could have ended another player’s career with the harshness of his vicious and very cynical tackle?  But then I am talking about the FA so I expect Cole to be called in to be awarded the player of the week medal for his effort.

As expected, Fergie was rightfully enraged by the tackle and his words explained the incident plainly and to the point;

“To me, it was a shocking tackle,” Ferguson said of Cole’s challenge which came as Hernandez was attempting to shoot at the back post off a rebound.   The referee’s booked him and, if he’s booked him, I don’t know why it wasn’t a penalty. We don’t know how Hernandez will be. We’re going to have to wait until the morning but, at the moment, his leg is very numb.   He’s hardly got any feeling in it so he could be out for a couple of weeks.”

“The referee booked him, so I don’t understand why he hasn’t given a penalty.  Ashley Cole is very reckless at times. He is committed of course but being committed you can sometimes go over the edge a bit.  That was an example of that.”

I couldn’t agree more Boss,  but what really gets me is that Fergie will probably get suspended for criticizing the official for that heinous ignorance of the law.  Oh the irony man!  Then you have the new kid on the block Andres Villas-Boas opening his trap to agree that the tackle was harsh but also offering as asinine a remark as I have ever read from manager defending a dirty act by one of his players.

“Maybe he wouldn’t get sent off if the linesman does his work,” said Villas-Boas. “He would have been less emotionally drained”.

WTF???  Is he serious?  My God, it is understandable to justify crippling an opponent because the linesman had gotten a call on an offside wrong earlier in the match?  This kind of thinking is sheer madness.  This is similar to understanding and condoning hooligans trashing downtown shops and buildings after their team loses a cup final I guess simply because they were upset their team lost.  Or it reminds of the old Sean Connery line from ‘The Untouchables’,  “He sends one of your men to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue.  That’s the Chicago way”  This kind of poor sportsmanship and whining is beneath a Premier League manager other than Rafa Benitez who made up classless garbage like this on a weekly basis.  The FA tolerates this BS and blatant disregard for player safety but punishes Rooney for swearing while celebrating in front of a camera and suspends Evra for supposedly fighting with custodial staff at the Bridge by taking the word of one of the custodians.  Unbelievable and total utter BOLLOCKS!!!!

Anyway, enough on that stuff.  Hopefully Chicharito will not miss too much time and lets just move on because it is like usual in England, us against the League and the FA.  As for the game, like I said earlier, this match could have ended 5-5 as it was even and it was a wide open and end to end affair.  However, in the end what separated the two combatants was that United had that extra touch of class that made the difference.  And when I say class I refer to three players in particular, Phil Jones, Ashley Young and especially my man of the match Nani.  Nani was outstanding.  One of his greatest ever games for United.  He showed Fergie that he could really bring it in a big game especially against tough physical Chelsea.  For years we have had to endure anti-football inclusions like Park or of late Valencia as Fergie felt they were less prone to mistakes than Nani.  Well perhaps they are but they are also less prone to creating scoring chances and scaring the crap out of Chelsea’s defenders.

Lesson number one learned on the day was that Nani should never sit out a big game against top opponents.  He along with Ashley Cole on the other side were the reason we won this game and were clearly our best players of the match along with young Phil Jones.  Regarding Young, man this lad is really fitting in well with the team and he has done two things that make him an MVP candidate.  He has evened out our attack as it used to be Nani or Valencia on the right side and that was it.  Now we can attack from both sides and secondly, he gives us total and complete width supremacy over the opponent.  Our width and utilization of that width was the determining factor in the victory.

But before I comment on Jones lets not forget about Nani’s performance.  A fantastic goal, the luckiest assist he will ever have and a display of ball control artistry and distribution not seen here since Giggsy was young and since Ronaldo patrolled the right side.  He was superb and brought a world class performance with him.  And he was very tidy and made all the smart moves today.  Unlucky to not score two as he hit the post with a great effort he was buzzing all around the Chelsea end and never allowed them to relax and not panic.  I feel bad for Tony Valencia who I feel is a very good player but if I were managing, he only sees playing time in the Carling Cup.  Nani is just too valuable to ever sit on the bench, especially in Premier League games where his speed and one on one skill is just vital to our success.

Now let me offer up a little love for Phil Jones.  Lesson number two, never ever sit down Phil Jones.  He is a monster.  What presence, what instinct, what skill and what guts.  Always makes a top notch tackle, offers up great runs and fights for every ball.  His effort on the third goal was fantastic and although he is to blame for Torres’ goal, can you blame him?  Who the Hell wants to waste time for 90 minutes marking a girl?  I have to say that as much as I love Vidic, Nani and Rooney, Phil Jones is fast becoming my favorite United player.  I am not one for buying jerseys simply because I can never find them big enough for my rather large girth but if I were to buy a shirt, it would be a Phil Jones model.  He’s my kind of player and to think that I bitched and whined when we signed him instead of spending the money on a greedy, selfish mercenary midfielder who shall remain nameless (cough cough Sneijder cough cough).

Fergie had little to say after the game about how well some of our players played.  He was disturbed by some of our shoddy and sloppy passing and disappointed in our midfield play as both Fletcher and Anderson did disappearing acts for most of the match which let Chelsea off the hook considering the played a very narrow and congested game.  We capitulated the midfield like we did to Barcelona but Chelsea never had the class or finish of the Catalans to punish us for those breakdowns.  Anderson was woeful and very sloppy in his passing and for once I have to say I felt sorry for the lad because of late he was really starting to win me over.  But I did warn people before that I wanted to see what he could do in a big game against a top opponent.  One more performance like that and it’s back to ‘double secret probation’ for him.  What will we see from him in the future and if he is the real deal, how does he recover from this match?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Fergie seemed very impressed in both Nani and Jones and had this to say;

“Phil Jones is a marvellous young lad. Look at the third goal for instance. He wasn’t going to lose the ball,” Sir Alex stated with excitement.” 

The Boss also added;

“He’s only 19 and has great enthusiasm. He’s quick, can pass and has a fantastic will to win. He’s been sensational since he came to us.”

Describing Nani’s man-of-the-match performance, he said;

“Nani’s finish was sensational. Today we saw him at his very, very best. When we got the ball wide, they couldn’t cope.”

Frankly it’s about time Fergie offered up some strong praise for Nani.  Quite often when he plays well, he gets very little love via official quotes.  This was short but sweet.

As for his analysis of the game he had the following things to say which really fall in line with my thoughts as well;

“For the neutrals it was fantastic and open. Some of our football was terrific but we were so careless we could have thrown it away. We did OK when we got the ball to Nani and Ashley Young in the wide positions but when we tried to be clever in the middle of the field we kept botching it up and Chelsea kept counter-attacking.  We were guilty of making things hard for ourselves by giving the ball away so many times in attacking areas”.

And later, when asked about Dimitar Berbatov’s awful missed opportunity correctly blamed Rooney for “a terrible pass, a really bad pass”, although I still think a sharp and in game form Berba would have scored.  This is what you get when you let a player sit and rot on the bench.  Don’t expect his best when he shows up once in a blue moon.  Just had to neg out on Fergie a bit, sorry.  J

The game was quite something with Rooney missing a penalty in the manner of a John Terry, Torres missing an absolute gimme but scoring a beauty, Nani scoring a world class rocket launch of a goal and Smalling scoring on a great Young free kick cross albeit being a shade offside in the process.  I also feel special praise should go to often maligned David De Gea who I felt had his best game for United.  His distribution was fantastic and he made some very good instinct and reflex oriented saves at crucial times and cannot be blamed for Torres’ moment of magic and the couple of easy chances that Chelsea squandered due to sloppy giveaways and shoddy marking.  His save against Ramires was sensational even though it was a poor finish, he did what was expected of himself.  Kudos to the lad.

So Let us move forward then.  It’s Leeds midweek in the Carling Cup then it’s a Saturday match against Stoke who got thumped by Brucey’s Sunderland today 4-0.  They will want to improve after that performance and they love the long high ball a lot and now Smalling is injured and doubtful.  Our injuries and lack of height back there could be a problem against that kind of club.  Hopefully his groin will recover in time and as well, lets hope Rio and Vidic return sooner rather than later.

As for Chelsea, well mission accomplished and another entertaining Premiership win playing my kind of football, albeit a little sloppy around the edges.  Well done nonetheless to the lads and Fergie for taking care of business by ‘pitchkrieging’ Mother Russia once again.  I hope Roman is crying in his yacht wondering what is life worth living for.  And finally let me offer up one last observation regarding the new Chelsea manager.  It’s official, Andres Villas-Boas knows Jose Mourinho but to Andres Villas-Boas I say this;  I know Jose Mourinho and sir, you are not Jose Mourinho.  And neither does his team visit Old Trafford in the same manner as a Mourinho led Chelsea team that used to come to Manchester with arrogance, confidence and swagger.  Those days are long gone and good riddance I say.

Van

 

306 Comments

306 Comments

  1. AndyCR7

    September 20, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Amos
    Valencia, Zeki, Carrick, Fabio
    Giggs, Park,
    Macheda, Diouf, Owen, Berbatov

    what the……………..

  2. Don

    September 20, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    I won’t be surprised if Lindegaard starts against physical Stoke on Saturday since De gea is on the bench today… wiley thinking by Fergie and his backroom staff…Stoke away is not for the fainthearted and might be the best matchup for our young, rail thin keeper in his first premier league season…

  3. RedDevilEddy

    September 20, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Total football?`???? COME ON MANCHESTER UNITED! 😈

  4. AndyCR7

    September 20, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    NO CMs 😆
    Whom do we blame now if berba had a bad game? 😆

  5. tonymontanna4united

    September 20, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    Im not quite sure whether this is just fergie taking the piss out of leeds or he purposely wants us to be knocked out. If he genuinely couldnt care less about this competition, then why not give the young lads their chance, rather than go with a team made up of a good 5/6 first teamers, playing anywhere but their natural position.
    Sometimes i just dont fucking get fergie. If it comes off though, well 😯

  6. colver

    September 20, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Ferguson’s most retarded team selection EVER. What the fuck is this?

    At least with Pogba in the team we could conceivably line up with a 4-3-3.

    What is going through Ferguson’s head if he would rather play four strikers than give Pogba a start. And he had the cheek to use Pogba as an excuse for not buying Sneijder.

  7. Don

    September 20, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Diouf has played as a winger and I see macheda operating similarly…SAF is just trying to give the old heads a game to stave off any grumbling…also the likes of Diouf and Macheda have been champing at the bit in the reserves because they never secred loan moves…the sacrificial lambs have got to be the youth team who have time on their side and are not on silly wages that warrant they have to play…makes sense but I don’t know if this lineup will work…I would have liked to see Valendia pushed up top, Zeki play left back and Ton thorpe slot in at center half…Pogba will play in this game but give he’s carryin an injury perhaps makes sens enot to start him..

  8. tonymontanna4united

    September 20, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Does anyone know whose on the bench?

    • Don

      September 20, 2011 at 7:57 pm

      De Gea, micheal keane, larnell Cole, Reece brown, Pogba, Tom Thorpe and Welbeck…

  9. Don

    September 20, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    I love the fact that Tom Thorpe, Larnell Cole and Reece Brown are on the bench…apparently Tom thorpe is a pretty decent center half and from what I’ve seen of Larnell in hte youth team last year he is probably the most technically skillful youth player outside of Pogba and Morrison. Reece is a more technically gifted version of Wes which should suit us well in the future…the future is bright! Let’s just get past this round lads!

  10. johnsom33

    September 20, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    so let me get this straight, Ando has one poor game and now all the haters feel vindicated. We should have invested in sneijder? I dont watch serie A but could someone tell me how he is playing? Has he even had a good game yet?

    Yes Anderson had a shocking, but he was brilliant the 4 games before that… o well.

    • ash is the man

      September 20, 2011 at 8:02 pm

      ANDO is class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. ash is the man

    September 20, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    hahaha what a team, clearly fergie is out to destroy :mrgreen:

  12. NicoQB

    September 20, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Said it to who wants yo believe it, Owen is the most clinical striker we have.
    Ahead of Chicharito even!

  13. Don

    September 20, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Who needs Xavi when you have 3-Lung park! Get in Miki Owen..1-0 United…

  14. ash is the man

    September 20, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    does anyone think owen will start next week?

    • Don

      September 20, 2011 at 8:15 pm

      I sure hope not…you mean in the CL? I say give Berba and Welbeck a game…for me Owen is a 30 min player coming off the becn in the 60 min of a game to try and nick a poachers goal…i like the fact that he is not whining about not playing and he is probably great to have around for the young lads in training..but I don’t want to see him sucking away playing time from younger players coming through…

      • Rimmerstweets

        September 20, 2011 at 8:39 pm

        But if he gets NO time on the pitch whatsoever he’ll leave…..then where will your first point be? (probably great for the young lads)

        And you can’t be serious about Owen? The guy just trains and that’s it, he’s fiiter now than he was 5-10 years ago! United know how to nurse him….look at Ledley King, Spurs try it with him. Countless teams have tried it with Chris Kirkland (including England). It can be done. Owen is world class on his day, always has been. He’s mega happy just training and being part of this and getting a few games along the way….wouldn’t you be?

        • Craig Mc

          September 20, 2011 at 10:49 pm

          I always felt you were intelligent gaffer – but you excel yourself in your discernment re Owen’s ability. Owen should get much more play – Fergie’s leaving him out has nothing to do with Owen’s fitness, but more to do with Sir Fergie’s blinkrdness 🙄

      • ash is the man

        September 20, 2011 at 8:50 pm

        i mean the PL
        owen still has it and i would start him DEFINITLY ahead of berba!! But if welbeck was to start thats fine 🙂

      • Craig Mc

        September 20, 2011 at 10:52 pm

        Don you are blind as a bat where Owen is concerned, and even blinder in your unwavering support for BERBA 😀

  15. ash is the man

    September 20, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    le-arse are losing 😆

  16. Gabriel

    September 20, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Mickey Owen is pure class!! 😀 😀

  17. AndyCR7

    September 20, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    OWENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

  18. ash is the man

    September 20, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    OWEN you are a sssseeeexxxxxxxxxxxxyyyyyyyyyyyy beast :mrgreen:
    PLEASE PLEASE fergie play this boy more. PLEASE!!!!!!!!1

    • Don

      September 20, 2011 at 8:25 pm

      yes play him more in the cup games not the league…who will he play ahead of? Rooney? Welbeck? Chicha? Berba?….

      • ash is the man

        September 20, 2011 at 8:45 pm

        play rooney and owen up top for awhile. Why not? Surely there is a reason for his new contract…….???

      • Craig Mc

        September 20, 2011 at 10:44 pm

        Owen is better than Chicha in the big games mate. We all saw how Chica was against Barca and just now against Chelsea – inneffective mate in the big uns – soz but it is true. I would choose Owen when we needed to get a goal – always. And Owen is not a HOMER, he scores well AWAY from home too.

      • johnsom33

        September 21, 2011 at 3:43 am

        Thank you don. Playing out sounds nice but not when he is behind, rooney, chicha, welbeck and then berba. I agree he is a good player and a even better human being, but at the end of the day he just isnt as good anymore as the other players.

        • ash is the man

          September 21, 2011 at 8:36 am

          johnsom33- owen is far more effective than berba and deserves games in the pl

  19. colver

    September 20, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Yeah until Hernandez gets his touch back I would quite like to see more of Owen. The guy is perfect for our new system. He has great control, great intelligence and while he may not be as fast as Welbeck or Hernandez he is much faster than Berbatov. So what if he gets injured. It is not like we are short on strikers.

    • Craig Mc

      September 20, 2011 at 10:37 pm

      Mickey Owen ALWAYS gonna get us goals – he and Hernandez play the same game – off the shoulder of the last man. Owen though will get you important game decisive goals in the BIG games, I bloody love Owen. He should play much more in the first team for that reason. Fergie treats Owen real bad, and he deserves better. GO MICHAEL – you would be in my team mate1

  20. Gabriel

    September 20, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Berbatov is gonna get sold!! Chance to impress and he’s strolling around the pitch acting nonchalant!! I know it’s a bit demeaning having ur first real chance at this stage but Giggs and Owen are getting on with it. I love the dude but he really f*cks about sometimes 🙄

    • Grognard

      September 20, 2011 at 8:34 pm

      I think he figures what’s the point? He scores three and he’s still on the bench.

    • AndyCR7

      September 20, 2011 at 8:37 pm

      When are you going to understand that he is not gonna run around like rooney or other strikers? If fergie was expecting that of him he would have been sold 2-3 seasons ago!

      May he shouldn’t have even bothered to make those double clearances… May be he didn’t make those… ball just ricocheted off his foot 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄

      • Don

        September 20, 2011 at 8:45 pm

        I now really do wonder what eevr was Fergie’s vision for berba? Was it just to keep him away from Citeh or did he really plan to use him to the best of his ability? It is clear as day Fergie’s intention has always been to build the current side around Rooney..and up to this day Rooney has never been effective in a slow build up type system…it is true berba has always been berba..but anybody can see that he doesn’t fit into United when we’re most effective..i.e fast penetrative wing play and quick on the counter…lovely player but he would fit much better in AC Milan…

        • ash is the man

          September 20, 2011 at 8:56 pm

          hes an arsenal player!!! FERGIE got it wrong thats all. WE SHOULD OF signed defoe

  21. Grognard

    September 20, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Leeds is total rubbish. More PITCHKRIEG please Fergie. 😀 😀

  22. Gabriel

    September 20, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Giggsy!!! 😆 😆 Leeds are a joke!!

  23. Don

    September 20, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Pitchkrieg! Grog you should copyright that ha ha! quality … Leeds to the slaughter

  24. Don

    September 20, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    It’s pretty telling that 5 of this 11 featured as startes or subs in the CL final in May and they can barely get a game now at United!!! 😯

  25. Moscow is my heaven

    September 20, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    I’ve been listening to some pure gems from the away support, ‘This is too fucking EASSSEEHHHHH’ and ‘Where’s your famous atmospheeerreeee??’

    Keep it up lads, let’s give them the hiding of their lives 😈

    More 😈 😈

  26. RedDevilEddy

    September 20, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    GOL! GOLAZO! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! GOAL! MÅL! ES UN GOLAZO MAGNIFICO!!!

    Manchester United – Just CANNOT! stop. scoring.

    Get Pogba on, I want him to nail one or two! 😀

  27. RedDevilEddy

    September 20, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Pogba!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    • tonymontanna4united

      September 20, 2011 at 8:55 pm

      Lets get young larnell cole on an all and im happy.

      • tonymontanna4united

        September 20, 2011 at 9:22 pm

        Here comes larnell 😛

  28. RMJ

    September 20, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Fabio, Carrick, Berbatov, Valencia……our defence!!!!!! 😛

    • Rahul

      September 20, 2011 at 9:40 pm

      And no goals conceded still!! Valencia was immense at RB!!

  29. RedDevilEddy

    September 20, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Pogba is a motherfucking beast.

    • Moscow is my heaven

      September 20, 2011 at 10:42 pm

      Apart from his first cross-field lob, I found his passing and shooting average at best. Let’s give him time.

      By the way, I’m jacking off to a video of Jones tearing Chelsea to shreds.

      • Don

        September 20, 2011 at 11:24 pm

        please keep your Jones fantasies to yourself! ..yuck.. 😯 (funny)

        • tonymontanna4united

          September 21, 2011 at 1:00 am

          Ah come on Don, you telling us you havent knocked one out watching jones yet? Yeah yeah, we believe you 😉 😆

  30. ash is the man

    September 20, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    CRAIG- at least we can unite in our agreement on owen- HE IS QUALITY :mrgreen:

    • Craig Mc

      September 20, 2011 at 11:25 pm

      I just have one beef with Owen tonight, his 2nd goal he was trying to do the replica shot of Nani wonder goal against Chelsea. I just saw it again on video and it was spitting image of mi man Nani’s. 👿 😆

      • ash is the man

        September 20, 2011 at 11:26 pm

        hahaha for the record NANIS was way better 🙂 😉

        • Craig Mc

          September 21, 2011 at 12:23 am

          😆 😆 😆 😆 your right, but they were both terrific goals though – love to see that kind of goalscoring!

  31. tonymontanna4united

    September 21, 2011 at 12:59 am

    Im with you craig regarding owen. Class little player, who ive been saying for a long time now deserves more game time, especially in the PL. Simply put, when he plays, he scores. His movement, and finishing ability possibly even surpasses that of hernandez. Cant imagine what sort of damage he’d do against stoke this saturday with first teamers like young, lil man and wazza around him. Would love to see him start this saturday really but doubt he will.

    • Don

      September 21, 2011 at 3:20 am

      I think one thing you (those that are saying micky owne is the second coming of Brazilian Ronaldo) is to ask yourself why have we been so devastating this season? Our speed of play and movement has just ripped teams apart…also our fitness levels seem to be out of this world which is unlike previous United teams of recent seasons..could be down to no major summer exertions for the squad but regardless the problem with Miki Owen for all his finishing is that his pace and quicklness is greatly diminished due to his age and injuries…yes he is useful as a finisher but as a side we are much more effective with the likes of Welbeck and CHicha who will stretch defenses and run defenders raggged which opens up spaces for the likes of Rooney, Nani and Young to further torment the opposition..unfortunately the likes of Owen and Berba just can’t offer that…I can see them coming on as subs when defenses are already spent but for the meantime we need to stick with our (fast and quick) horses as startes because that’s our strength..the moment we try and play the slow deliberate nonsense we will get in trouble because we just don’t have the quality in the midfield to play that way…i.e inch perfect through balls a la xavi and Iniesta or a dribbler like messi to draw 3 defenders and dink it off..we just don’t have the personnel to play like that..Cleverly gives us something close to a player who can play around corners but he is till very green and nani gives us the unpredicatbility dribbling factor but until now he has been just too inconsistent to be relied on as a Messi type player..so we need to keep to our strnegths until we can develop other variations of play..meaning i will be fine with Miki own and berba seeing more pine if we can keep up out current style…cameo subs fine but nothing more..

      • tonymontanna4united

        September 21, 2011 at 3:44 am

        I agree with that mate, and im not saying owen should be a regular starter for us, just that he can be an excellent option for us in certain games in the PL. It seems though, were only interested in giving him minutes in the carling cup, early FA cup rounds, which i dont agree with.
        Maybe if your looking at say the stoke game for example, then yes owen might not be the best option there. Afterall stoke are a very physical, yet rather slow side, that the sheer pace of a welbeck say, would exploit to great effect imo. So maybe not the best option for that particular game.
        Nonetheless ive always loved little mickey, and felt hes been undervalued by us since his arrival, and just feel he should get a run of games sometime in the PL.
        It seems though hes always going to have his chances blocked by hernandez, welbeck, even berba, which i find an almighty shame.

        • Don

          September 21, 2011 at 2:21 pm

          If i were Sir Alex and I had the option of fieliding a young up and coming striker (Chicha or Welbeck) who are very effective yet still learning their trade or an old warhorse who is in the twilight of his career who can be effective as well i would go for the young guns…those lads need games to continue to improve and learn their trade. In 2 years when Owen retires and has not much more to give if the likes of Welbeck and Chicha would have not been given opportunities now United will be much the worse later…there is clearly an agreement between Fergie and owen that he knows he will be given opportunties but he won’t automatically get into the side just because of his past track record…I won’t be surprised to see Owen get some time on Sunday or in the CL next week but I like what Fergie is doing by continuing Welbeck and Chicha’s development…imagine how devastating boith those strikers will be with a full year under their belts in the current United side! Yo’ve got to look to the future and not live on sentimentality..Fergie is good at that..that is why he is the best man manager in world football…

  32. colver

    September 21, 2011 at 6:50 am

    Owen doesn’t need to have lighting pace because his movement and anticipation is so good. Hernandez was caught offside half a dozen times against Barcelona. People also forget that Owen has good control, is good at link up play, has great vision, an eye for a pass and certainly does not slow us down at all. Berbatov seems to be the victim of our change in style but there is no reason why Owen can’t be a major beneficiary.

    Hernandez had a long summer unlike the rest of our team. He needs to go back to having substitute appearances until he gets his sharpness back. Then later in the season he will have the chance to re-stake his claim for a first team berth. Until then let Welbeck and Owen have some gametime.

    Pogba is years off first team action. I can’t believe Ferguson was citing Pogba’s progress as the reason he didn’t buy a midfielder this summer. I am sure what will happen is Pogba will go on loan next season just as Cleverley and Beckham did in their day. Then two seasons from now he can stake a claim to the first team. Till then unfortunately we have to put up with Carrick and Fletcher as holding midfielders.

    • Stephen

      September 21, 2011 at 8:51 am

      Mate a few weeks ago you were moaning that Fergie never gives youth a chance an you could not wait for him retire.
      Pobga had 45 mins on a debut, give him a chance. Perssonnally I thought he did very well and will be a top player. You can’t have it both ways, he at 17 will mate mistakes but will get better with more games.

    • Don

      September 21, 2011 at 2:29 pm

      One thing I trust about Fergie is he knows talent when he sees it..he sees the boy training with the first team everyday and I’m sure he has seen enough to know he is close to the first team…I agree with Stephen that 45 min cameo is no judge of an 18 year old player or any player on their debut..if that was the case Evra and Vida would have been relegated to the reserves and sold sharpish…I don’t think the expectation at United is that he would be starting in the first team by teh end of the season..if that was the case i believe we would have sold Carrick at the least…the goal is for him to break in (which he has) and get some cup games under his belt, a full preseason withe the first team next summer and be a full squad player by next season…as for Owen read my response to tonymontana above..as for Chicha i full agree a big weakness in his game is recognizing the offside line but that will improve as he get more experienced and wiley… Wlebeck and Chicha are the future and need to get the reps in now..Owen shoudl remian a bit part role player who will give valuable profressional advice to younger strikers and contribute as a sub and ain cup games…

      • Grognard

        September 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm

        Here’s the problem that I have with Fergie’s decisions surrounding Pogba. I believe this kid will be great enough to start someday, but that day is at least two to three years away. He’s just to emotional and not ready for prime time yet. But what bothers me is that Hargreaves was let go because Fergie didn’t want to hold back Pogba and didn’t wan the lad to get discouraged and go sign with another team. Jeez! From what I saw the lad is not even close to making the main squad so wouldn’t it have been more prudent to keep Hargreaves and sign him to a one year contract?

        Also, when I see the lad I see a player who is a minimum of two years away. Could we not sign a central midfield with a three year contract to fill in for that amount of time. The excuses for not doing anything in the transfer market for that position were all based around Pogba. This has come right out of Fergie’s mouth yet it’s obvious to me anyway, that the boy is a long way off from being the finished product that would warrant such decisions.

  33. Rimmerstweets

    September 21, 2011 at 8:42 am

    Pogba is years off first team action.

    You’re right although hopefully people won’t be daft enough to judge him solely on last night’s cameo.

    He played too deep to get on the ball then paniced when he had it, that’s not him at all. Nerves killed him I think.

    I stick by what I said in the past, he’s too emotional but he’ll quell that with age + xp

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