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Fergie Blames Added Time, I blame Fergie.

Manchester United suffered their first home defeat at Old Trafford after a shambolic first half performance against Tottenham Hotspur costed them dearly.

If ever the Premier League decided to produce a DVD to market the league abroad, they could do worse things than put together a collection of encounters between United and Spurs as this fixture has produced incredible drama over the years and today’s match was no different.

Mind you, the footage from today’s game could also be used in a clinic focussing on non-existing midfields and overly exposed defences.

Despite his appearance on Wednesday night there was no space in the starting lineup for Wayne Rooney, as Fergie chose RVP as lone striker supported by a five-man midfield comprising Nani,Scholes,Kagawa,Giggs and Carrick with Rafael,Evans,Ferdinand and Evra playing in front of Lindegaard.

A puzzling lineup considering that, in Dembele,Sandro and Bale, Spurs have some of the most dynamics and physical midfielders in the league, as United would find out barely after kick off.

With the game just two minutes old, Vertonghen exchanged passes with Bale before galloping towards the penalty box completely unchallenged to see his shot deflect past Lindegaard by Jonny Evans’ arm as the United defender dived in a desperate attempt to avoid the inevitable.

To say that Spurs controlled the game in the first half would be unfair on them, as they completely played United off the park like very few teams have done at Old Trafford during Sir Alex Ferguson’s reign.

With United producing an even worse first half the showing than they did last Sunday at Anfield, Spurs’ second goal had an aura of inevitability to it.

Van Persie lost possession on the edge of Tottenham’s box, before the ball was quickly transferred to Gareth Bale on the halfway line who ignited the afterburners powering through United’s midfield and defence before slotting the ball past Lindegaard.

Rio Ferdinand is still a superb defender and few players in the league can match Bale’s pace but the lack of protection the midfield offered was simply scandalous.

For all their attacking guile and firepower, United get consistently overrun and outmuscled in midfield where a lack of power and solidity has been hampering the side for years.

Fergie’s loyalty to Ryan Giggs is commendable and the Welshman has been crucial to United’s successes even if he’s approaching his fourth decade but he is not, and never has been, a central midfielder and the decision to start him today costed United dearly.

Giggs shouldn’t obviously be singled out as the whole United team was flat, submissive and lacked any sort of desire throughout the first half but exemplifies an emerging pattern in Fergie’s selections, which have been questionable recently.

United showed signs of life before the end of the first half as Nani was brought down by Vertonghen and United were denied what looked like a clear penalty by referee Chris Foy.

Boos rang around the ground as the teams headed towards the dressing rooms.

United reemerged with Rooney replacing Giggs and making his first league appearance since the suffering an injury against Fulham back in August.

He was soon in the thick of the action as his cross from the right was met by Nani, who side-footed the shot past Friedel to put United back in the game

The goal surely provided a welcome change for the Portuguese, after his recent performances and alleged off field antics.

Any hopes of a comeback were immediately dashed in the second of this season’s three craziest minutes so far as Defoe brilliantly played Bale through as United’s back four was yet again caught off guard.

Bale’s shot was brilliantly saved by Lindegaard but the Danish keeper could do nothing about Dempsey’s tap-in.

AVB’s side two-goal advantage lasted less than a minute as Van Persie threaded a superb ball through for Kagawa who eluded Spurs’ attempt to play the offside trap and rolled the ball past Friedel.

The goal sparked United into action, in fact they produced their best performance of the season so far, with Paul Scholes superbly pulling the strings in midfield – the United midfielder will finish the game with a 91% pass completion rate.

With 58 minutes gone, United had a half-hearted penalty appeal turned down as Kagawa was challenged by Walker in the box and three minutes later Wayne Rooney went close to repeat the wonderful free kick he struck against Fenerbache on the same ground, as he made his United debut exactly eight years ago.

The United striker was denied by the post as Spurs continued to ride their luck, which had so often eluded them in the past against United, as they did two minutes later when Sandro’s arm made contact with the ball but Chris Foy waved play on.

With twenty minutes to go, Van Persie scuffled a shot wide after having been played through by Carrick and Rooney saw his shot ending on the wrong side of the post after a superb run by Rafael.

Brad Friedel repelled a Scholes’ piledriver and a free header from Evra as Spurs’ very own Fort Apache held out.

Welbeck and Hernandez replaced Kagawa and Ferdinand but when Carrick’s header hit the bar, United knew that a famous comeback wasn’t to be, as Spurs deservedly secured their first win again the Old Trafford side after 26 attempts.

Dan (@MUFC_dan87)




    September 29, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    We won a fantastic match today because we had the desire to win. Congratulations to AVB to instil this in our players. We must continue to show this same motivation for the rest of the season. We must believe in ourselves. ” To dare is to do..”

    • smc

      September 30, 2012 at 9:30 am

      i think fergie just thumbed down this comment.@JOHN ADAM:

    • vincent injenga

      September 30, 2012 at 4:55 pm

      @JOHN ADAM: fergie should start planning for retirement,he lost it.fuck this old age experience talk,how dare u play carrick nd giggs in the midfield against spurs,how dare u leave rooney,cleverly,anderson,powell out.even chicha deserved a place instead of welbeck,CARRICK SHOULD QUIT MAN UTD HE IS A LOOSER,I HATE HIM COZ HE WAZ NEVER A REAL MIDFIELD PLAYER,fergie failed to sign sneijder,modric nd wants to insist carrick is worth,HELL NO,carrick should be on the bench for capital one games mayb,the rest NEVER PLAY CARRICK IF U WISH TO ONE DAY REACH BARCA STANDARDS,NEVER,CARRICK SUCKS

  2. GNTache

    September 29, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    a defence of Rafael, an ageing Rio Ferdinand, Jonny Evans and Patrice f*cking Evra simply isnt good enough for a top four side.

    • richard

      September 29, 2012 at 10:18 pm

      @GNTache: Stop whining and grow up…Rafael hd a very good match and if you want to play the blame game take a hard look at the lack of tracking from giggs, nani, kagawa and nani.United will be just fine–if you are a real united fan you would have left feeling great about the 2nd half..UNited will be just fine!!

    • Sahal

      September 30, 2012 at 11:48 am

      Blaming the defense is just stupid.Ferdinand was colossal at Anfield and now he should retire?
      Our midfield can’t offer enough protection and that’s it.
      i don’t know why Fergie doesn’t implement a high pressure game(don’t give the opposition the chance to expose the midfield,stay in their half,and ultimately score more than you concede)
      United don’t have the right balance of Attack and defense but we should play to our strengths i.e ATTACK

  3. Habib

    September 29, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    That was a classy and courageous match report. Very mature and honest. You put those bunch of jokers at Daily Mail and The Sun to shame.

    From a Spurs Supporter.

  4. dan

    September 29, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    what a well balanced match review, take a bow! As a spurs fan i had the squeakiest bum for most of the second half, but as you say for once the luck was with us and we can finally stop talking about the hundred or so years since we last beat you!

    I also find it odd that you persevere with a lone striker, when you have so many options, especially when playing at home, but who am i to argue with SAF?

    All the best for the season!

    • richard

      September 29, 2012 at 10:41 pm

      @dan: a dan that’s why you are a fan and not the manager…WTF, this blog is just that,,comments from a blogger, NOT an experienced football manager, player or someone that has played the game at any real level. For some very odd reason you folks take what is written by pure amateurs as something that should be taken serious. I’m sure Mr or Ms.. RedRant means well–but does he/she have any clue what they are talking about–based on this i say NO! Put this stuff into perspective–these blogs are nothing more than a would be pundit / expert attempting to convince folks that they have a clue about this game. They don’t..seriousl none of them do! It’s tough enough to get through the absolute garbage written by the hacks at the so called established news outlets.

      • Ian

        September 29, 2012 at 10:42 pm

        So why are you here then? πŸ™‚

  5. Andre's Crouching

    September 29, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    What a well written and balanced summary of the match. Yes we rode our luck in the second half but surely nobody can deny us that, after what’s happened over the years. Today was a hiccup for United and maybe a big boost for us and AVB.

  6. Big Mal

    September 29, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    It is Tottenham Hotspur not Hotspurs. Named after Harry Hotspur – there was only one Harry Hotspur and there is only one Tottenham Hotspur

  7. joe

    September 29, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    The restrictions on spending imposed by the Glazer debt are obvious. Afew years ago Man U fans were deriding Chelseas ‘Dads army’ Now Chelsea have an infusion of dynamic attacking talent throughout their ranks while Manchester rely heavily on Scholes, Carrick and Giggs , all in football terms octgenarians. You missed the boat in the summer with the panic buy of RVP in an 82,000,000 deal for a 29 yr old along with the lightweight Kagawa. Hard times ahead lads… πŸ˜₯

    • richard

      September 29, 2012 at 10:15 pm

      @joe: Calm down and give Spurs a little credit for offering something in the 1st half…United so dominated Spurs in the 2nd half, I walked away encouraged…My goodness man, they destroyed Spurs in the 2nd half. It’s early days yet and United will be right there at the end—the 2nd half said everything about how good United can be when they show up…

  8. joe

    September 29, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    Also what was really embarrassing was the celebrations of the Spurs fans acting as if they had won the league rather than beatng an off par Man U team shorn of their regular defence. Also surviving 2 stone wall penalties. AVB who was a disaster at Chelsea the European Champions was prety embarassng as well. As we say ”little Spurs had a big win against one of the genuine tile contenders…”

    • Neil

      September 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm

      @joe: What a sore loser, just remember to put your dummy back in your mouth and make sure you put your toys back in your pram!!!!

    • George

      September 30, 2012 at 3:33 pm

      Fergie and the fans get carried away week after week thinking they deserve 4-5 mins injury time.If it was a draw or Man U leading he will scream the place down ranting at officials to end the game.What a sore loser he is.As for two penalties?????

    • Jez

      September 30, 2012 at 7:40 pm

      Aaaw, petal.Try not to cry.

    • Shane

      October 1, 2012 at 1:53 pm

      Is this Alex Furgeson? It is a pity that you put it down to an off day for united as the only reason we beat you. What about all the off days spurs had in the last how many years that Man U won? Oh that was never used as an excuse. So sick of Man U and Alex Ferguson never handing credit where it is due. We had the belief to beat you and you thought it would be the usual match where you win. We deserved to win. We dont have Ade, parker, Kaboul and Lloris so does this mean we would have won 3-0 if they were playing? You were beaten fair and square so stop blaming extra time and missing players as the reason you lost because we were not at full strength either.

  9. Ben

    September 29, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    well balanced spot on write up…. Did Rio catch his taxi…..? he looked as though he couldn’t catch a cold, let alone Bale.

  10. richard

    September 29, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Simply put, you just can’t play Scholes, Giggs , Kagawa and Nani together.Nani will not defend, ever, period, Giggs doesn’t have it in the big matches, you’re asking to much of Scholes at his age to be a 2 way player. Now don’t get me wrong, he was the best player on the park but you saw him at his best in the 2nd half when Fergie made the changes. Poor defending saw United give up 3 goals (ok Bales’ was class) but my lord, I don’t think I have seen united so dominate a team as they did in this 2nd half of this match. The woodwork, decent keeping and poor finishing was the difference in United not winning this by at least 2 goals. Congrats to spurs and head up united fans, the 2nd half is an indication just how good we can be.

  11. Big Mal

    September 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    Didn’t realise Fergie blamed added time for the defeat but just listened to his interview. Very sad that the best manager ever reverts to type and does this. He said there were 6 substitutions so that’s 3 minutes. Well Fergie one was at half time and 2 were at the same time so that’s two minutes. I know you’re getting old………. Then he said that Tottenham were wasting time. How? We didn’t have the ball to waste time! I suppose we took much longer over our goal kicks than your players would if you were winning at Barca. Grow old gracefully. We have had no luck at Old Trafford for years. Now we destroyed your team in the first half and hung with some hefty slices of luck in the second half. That’s football Fergie. (Next week United will be winning 1-0 and the ref will add 4 and he’ll say ‘where on earth did the ref get 4 minutes from’.)

    • richard

      September 29, 2012 at 10:24 pm

      @Big Mal: You didn’t destroy united in the first–united didn’t track and you got one good goal and one fluke…Now what we saw in the 2nd half was pure destruction minus the goals that would have capped it off. I have now watched this match twice and feel good about united.the 2nd half was a dominate as unIted have ever been–it was almost as though they where playing against school boys. 12 points and in only 4 points back after losing 2 matches says it all..united will be there at the end as is the norm..

      • Northspur

        September 29, 2012 at 10:34 pm


        You clearly did not watch the first half, we outplayed you and scored the goals to match that.

        In the second half you outplayed us but could not score the goals to go with it and to say “as though they where playing against school boys” makes you look like a total fool ! as you are saying you could not beat a team of schoolboys at your best

        • richard

          September 29, 2012 at 10:44 pm

          @Northspur: watched it twice and yes you had more possession but did very little ith it..Now the 2nd half was a lesson –a real ass kicking, albeit, minus the goals…Calm dowd fella, i get that you’re excited to finally get a victory against United but lets not get carried away,. This is United after all..we will finish ahead of you and we will likely win the league. History suggest hat you just shouldn’t bet against it

        • Northspur

          September 30, 2012 at 4:33 am


          Well if that was a real ass kicking i take one everyday day thanks !! and yes you will more than likely finish above us but hey thats what being a spurs supporter is all about getting carried away.

          End of the day we taught you a real lesson in the first half and sat back in the second and rode our luck and the stats on the game do not really back you up

          We had more possession in the whole game, you had 2 more shots on target than us WOW do you really call that an ass kicking lol

      • Big Mal

        September 29, 2012 at 11:25 pm

        @richard: You can afford to be arrogant, complacent and in denial when you support Man United. First half Tottenham destroyed them – simple as that. But if you want to call it a fluke and didn’t track back, fair enough. Luckily they are managed by Fergie and not a blind man. And if Man U can’t be schoolboys it’s going to be a long hard season. No chance in the CL and no chance in the PL unless RVP and Rooney can make up for the short comings all over the park. But not to worry you destroyed Tootenham 2-3

      • Shane

        October 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm

        Yeah … and the score? You could have had 100% possession but possession doesnt win games, goals do. You tore us apart in the second half? It was 2-0 at half time so how did we break you down and get the 3rd? In the 2nd half it was noticeable that we had changed tactics and sat off you unlike in the first half. We allowed scholes all the time in the world but got 11 men behind the ball and defended like we knew we would have to. Playing school kids? The school kids scored 3 goals against you at Old Trafford, good thing it wasnt a team of adults then hey. For a team that wins so much it wouldnt hurt for you to be gracious in defeat as the rest of us have to be when usually playing Man U. Get a grip you bunch of losers.

    • ian harris

      September 30, 2012 at 8:16 am

      It had nothing to do with extra time. I think someone said it was a game of 2 halves, when United beat Spurs 5-3. Last night’s game was exactly that. United playing like the worst team in Europe first half, and the best team in Europe in the second. Now is the time for the young players to take the mantel, like Cleverley, Keane, Wootton, Buttner, and de Gea. United have never been afraid to take risks. By the way, in 3 matches against Newcastle this season , we have won 7-1, 4-2, and 2-1

  12. michael

    September 29, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    I thing are starting very slow and in the first half the modul of our game was not good with van persie alone in front and the Japaneses not playing well.We surely need to improve our defence because in the first half we did a lot of defencive mistakes and we were very slow.fergie should find a good defender so we can strenghten our defence

    • arann

      September 30, 2012 at 5:03 pm

      @michael: the japaneses? pathetic grammar – are u a mong? and not only do you write like a child but kagawa was one of uniteds better players, he didnt get subbed off at halftime did he? no he didnt, old man giggs did… michael you must be from south korea, kagawa is much better than park, get over it

  13. David

    September 29, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    Lets face it Spurs won and that is that. Yes they rode their luck in the 2nd half but that’s soccer. There are lessons for Utd in this game. The main one is that the mid-field is weak. Only Scholes is real class and he is not what he was–a truly world class player. Utd needed to get someone like Modric or Hazard in the window and for whatever reason they did not. Their defence is also suspect. Ferdinand is not what he was and Evra never was in the first place. Evans is not top class and the reality is they really miss Vidic. All clubs go through this phase I am sure will renew themselves. I would be really astonished to see them win the league this year. The current Chelsea team will play them off the park amnd I suspect City will do the same.

  14. Yang

    September 30, 2012 at 1:00 am

    I start to think that Fergie made mistake building non-defense midfielder’s team. Against Spur’s, it is very important to mark Bale out and thier fast wing play. We are fail to defend.
    It is very stupid idea to play we score more than you game in football, I believe.

  15. colver

    September 30, 2012 at 1:25 am

    I’ve already written off this season.

    How can we expect to improve when Giggs and Scholes are still the first names on Fergie’s teamsheets and a year older each season? OK they can still be very good and Scholes especially. But we cannot keep expecting them to turn back the clock and when their age does show we are at a major disadvantage.

    What is the use of having five central defenders if invariably three or four of them are injured at any given time? And why are we the only team this happens to?

    Why do we have to go behind before we can motivate ourselves to play good football?

  16. ForeverRed

    September 30, 2012 at 2:45 am

    I think you’ve accurately alluded to the fact that our problems are serious, multiple and stem from the top Colver. We’ve a creaky defence and a swiss cheese of a midfield (being generous) in support of an armada of forwards that Fergie admitted he doesn’t know how to select from. The fact that 23 and 24 year old midfielders – who should be approaching their peak – are unable to displace 37 and 38 year-olds in Fergie’s mind tells you either 1. How singularly he has failed to evolve the squad in these critical positions or 2. How much he has fallen victim to sentimentality over objectivity. This would never have happened 10 years ago.

    The big question is, who is evaluating Fergie? He says he wants to leave a strong, young team to his successor, yet how many starters today were close to or over 30? How are we developing talent if we never give the youngsters a run of games? How will we know if they are good enough? 23 and 24 is not young yet they cant get in the team (Cleverley, Anderson etc). What does this say to Tunniciffe, Powell, etc who are even further back age wise?

    We are told that we will never lose the league on goal difference again – hence the purchase of Van Persie. No complaints there, but I suspect goal difference is not going to be a factor this year. However, has our leader forgotten that goal difference has two components – for and against? We’ve got so many attacking players they can’t even find room on the bench. But when it comes to defensive options…. well we’ve seen how limited they are. Vidic is sadly never going to be the same with his injury and age, and likewise, Ferdinand, not surprisingly given age and injuries, is struggling for pace. Evra is on the down slope, Rafael is a better attacker than defender and the rest are injury prone. And defensive midfield – sorry, what defensive midfield…?

    Frankly, this is the most unbalanced and tactically deficient United side we’ve seen in years. We can forget Europe as long as we continue to ignore the problems, as we seem to keep doing. For 2008 read 1968, we’re going backwards and it’s being repeatedly exposed – and not just by the best teams.

  17. ColinSC

    September 30, 2012 at 3:09 am

    I am so impressed by the tone of the contributors to this blog and the initial unbiased summary of the game It is refreshing to see supporter from both sides offer constructive criticism without it degeneration to insulting one and other. In all it is good to see grown-ups discussing a dramatic game. I thank you all.

  18. Redrich

    September 30, 2012 at 3:15 am

    I have lots of questions about this one, and not because I don’t understand the performance, because a stinker like this, for a team like ours, can happen once in a while, but this was a disturbing development and a crushing realization that we don’t have the team to compete!!

    1/. Why do we start Giggs? He should only come on when we’re trying to close out a game or to spell a tired/injured player. He is spent as an impact player and before he ruins his legacy, he should tell SAF that he wants his arse on the bench.
    2/. Why, when we know that we have a dodgy back line, do we not start two MF’ers that are assigned to defensive duties. Perhaps Cleverly with Carrick, or Anderson with Fletcher.
    3/. Why do we insist that Kagawa is included in the lineup when he is a hybrid light weight that can only be useful when you’ve sorted out the problems with your defense?
    4/. If when you realize that you have no defense and no midfield, do you blow your transfer wad on 2 attacking players?
    5/. What do you do when no-one identifies that we have no defense or midfield?
    6/. How am I gonna feel when United finishes 8th this season? (do take into account that a team with a poor defense will win nothing in England)

    Legit questions in my mind – lets see if this club can come up with some answers. πŸ˜₯ πŸ˜₯ 😯 😯

  19. Redrich

    September 30, 2012 at 4:05 am

    I agree with those that are not blaming Rio for his part in the 3 goals.
    Rio has never been a pacy player and for him to be completely exposed by a non-existent MF is totally criminal.
    I’ve preached in the past about poor individual performances, but wouldn’t you think that Nani as a poor defensive player, is not a state secret! Or that Scholes is gun-shy when it comes to putting in that well-timed tackle in or around the PA.
    Please, this is not rocket science, it’s called “look at the odds and line up accordingly”.
    There must be a denial and a fantasy or two floating around the braintrust (sic). A feel-good, back slapping good-ole-boy comfort zone that puts them above the rest. A feeling that the past is good enough and the future is not their problem. Nice for them, sucks for us.
    And when most teams bring in players that provide competition for the team, how comes the ownership don’t bring in some new brainage to make us a better team? Simple answer, they are the Glazers and they know shit about Footy!! πŸ™„ πŸ™„

  20. Roge Vegas Yido

    September 30, 2012 at 6:24 am

    A very well written, insightful and balenced article. I watched the second half through my fingers convinced all we had done after going 1-3 up was to annoy a giant and fully expected a tonking! If you could impart your second half performance on 75% of the remaining games this season you will win the league at a canter. You need to replace Scholes ASAP, he is a wonderful player but age is not on his side.

    P.S, Do me a favour and give a*****l and Dynamo batterski a sound thumping when you play them, in fact the spammers too and we will try our hardest to stuff Citeh and the bindippers for you! πŸ˜‰

  21. Hoe

    September 30, 2012 at 6:34 am

    I believe it is actually less attempts strictly speaking, people keep saying we haven’t won there in 23 years, really they should’ve be saying we haven’t won there in the league in 23 years.

  22. Onkar

    September 30, 2012 at 6:42 am

    Pathetic… The only way I can explain the performance yesterday… And I am not getting sold by the Second Half display as in my mind that was down to two reasons… i.e. offensive desperation from our side and defensive from Hotspur’s. NOw I also cant seem to understand the FACT that we all can see that 4-2-3-1 no matter how good this formation is cant work in out case because we dont have technical expertise to play that. Players are not coached for that in my books. For our team most obvious thing if at all we are moving away from 4-4-2 has to be the 4-3-3 one as it at least allow us to pack the midfield area and that saves us from getting over and exposed in the middle of the park. I mean specially after the league cup game against Newcastle we should learnt out lesson that we need to pack the MF. I mean I have to say that the MIdweek game was the first time I saw our MF actually controlling the game i know against the weakened New Castle but we were also playing non regulars there. i think packing the MF is the only way forward for us now. I mean Play either Carrick / Scholes as the screen and accompany them with the any TWO of Cleverly, Ando, Fletcher, even Kagawa if required. In my books that can at least allow us to protect our Defense in some way.

    Probably the best that we can put out as i see is:-


    Ando Cleverly

    Rooney RVP Kagawa

    I think this is the only way we can actually screen our defense that is by packing the MF area. Of course Scholes can pay in Carrick role when ever required….

    But we need top realize first that our MF is not good enough and the congestion of MF and outnumbering the opponent is only way forward. We dont need worry about our forward as they are good enough to score we need to protect our defense first…

  23. elwehbi

    September 30, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Spurs fan here…

    The 2nd half almost gave me a heart attack! United are the most resilient team in football, especially against Spurs at Old Trafford. I really thought you would get the 2 goals needed for the win; however, a bit of determination and lady luck helped us secure our first win at OT in 2 decades. That alone is one hell of an accomplishment for United, and I think the second half display should be enough for United fans to not hit the panic button at this point.


    • realist

      September 30, 2012 at 1:11 pm

      at least some yids have sense!

  24. Sidders

    September 30, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Fergy is an embarrassment to football, his watch tapping is legendary yet he complains now that he should have had extra time until UTD had scored…..Great manager in the past but never been much of a man.

  25. Essigreb

    September 30, 2012 at 11:35 am

    Ferguson plays people he likes as human beings. Scholes, Giggs and Ferdinand should not have played, but in the latter case he plays because of injuries. In the first two cases, its close to Altzheimers playing those two – at the same time its totally insane!

  26. Steve_cambs

    September 30, 2012 at 11:44 am

    A well written and well balanced article I think. Spurs were dominant in the first half – Sandro is a beast of a player and both Dembele and Bale are unplayable when on their game. That being said, United were camped in the Spurs half in the second period and i really believed it would end 4-3 to United.
    Disappointed to see SAF complaining about the minutes allocated – pretty much everyone who watched the game with me guessed at 4 so Im not sure what his complaint really was.
    Finally, Just to say what good grace the majority of Man Utd supporters have handled this defeat with. They know they will be up there challanging for the title at end of season and have in the main respected a decent performance by an improving Spurs side.
    Steve – Spurs supporter.

  27. trevor

    September 30, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Fergie is acting like Clough did in his final year. He cant see past Giggs,Scholes and Carrick. A midfield of approx. 110 years old.
    Played same team as last week and L/pool could have done the same as Spurs. Fergie thought Giggs played well last week. He thinks experience is better than ability and stamina . How many assists have Scholes Giggs and Carrick this last two seasons.

    • realist

      September 30, 2012 at 1:10 pm

      i thought bringing giggs on for nani last week had as big an impact as the red card nani was that bad. giggs helped us keep the ball a lot better. granted giggs was awful this week and bringing rooney on as well as a bit of the hairdryer clearly helped change the game again. makes me laugh how everyone knows better than SAF and dives in for a dig when we lose a game. this article mentions giggs “never being a centre midfielder” in a game hes just played poorly on the left wing! :s

  28. Sid

    September 30, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Spurs fan here. Loved how we played 1st half and how we held on for the win. But the bottom line is, even with oldies scholes and carrick, Man U totally peed on us second half.

    The whole of the half I was like come on, get the bloody ball off them and string a move together, otherwise they are gona rip us apart.

    A post, a bar, a few saves and few misses, and we held on for a great win. But I was seriously worried at how we couldnt do anything against them in the second half.

    As a spurs fan, Man U are actually the only other team I like watching win, you know beating Chelski, Gooners etc. But that second half, I was seriously worried.

  29. sarge

    September 30, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    rooney anderson cleverley were the missing links in this match,we needed atheleticism in order to cover our defence and creating that final link up play attack we lacked in the first half, they are games where when we have played both scholes and giggs in the midfield with carrick our midfield tends to play too flat we need to take risks with our youth in order be successful or it will be too late

  30. Strettytier2

    September 30, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    ‘ Boos rang around the ground as the teams headed towards the dressing rooms’

    Really?? I was in stretty end tier 2 and all I could hear was all of tier 2 chanting support for our lads…. As with 2nd half.. Tier 2 showed fantastic support..

    Around added on time, I was too very puzzled.
    3 goals
    6 subs
    Physio on once was it?
    Time wasting on every goal kick and throw in..

    Isn’t there some lose rule around goals and subs? Adding on 30secs, even then one sub took 4 weeks to leave the pitch…

    That said we had way enough chances in 2nd half to win a few games..

    • Ian

      October 1, 2012 at 11:50 am

      There were a few evident on TV for sure, despicable imo but that’s today’s ‘fan’ I’m afraid.

    • Northspur

      October 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm


      Are you saying that Man U would never waste time by bring a sub on in the 93 min and taking their time taking throw in etc ?

  31. Redrich

    October 1, 2012 at 4:38 am

    Where did all these Spurs fans come from??

    I guess it’s a big deal for them to beat our arse, and after so many years, who can blame them.

    But really, all Spurs fans, you didn’t achieve that much at all. You beat a team that plays part-time most of the time and lines up as if they just simply have the right to take all three points.

    Hey, Giggs has been good for this team in the past and so why not shove him in the starting 11 – he’s bound to do something! πŸ™„
    And Scholes is always gonna spray the ball around with aplomb, and that makes us look like we did in 1999.
    And lets continue to ignore the MF because we just bought the league’s best goal scorer who will calm down the natives and turn their heads to the make-believe world that we live in! πŸ™„

    If this is your yardstick for the measure of your team, you should take a pill and calm down. You have just played a team in turmoil that doesn’t seem to have leadership on or off the field. A team without a clear way forward other than its own profitability. A legacy that lives in the past and a management team that seems to have no idea about what could lie in the future. πŸ˜₯ πŸ˜₯ πŸ˜₯

    • Northspur

      October 1, 2012 at 2:19 pm


      As this appears on newsnowtottenham are you surprized ?

      As for you points about beating you then yes dispite all you say and no matter how hard you try to play down the defeat Man U are one of the football powerhouses and it is indeed a big deal to beat you in your own place.

      It was even more sweeter because we did it without our first choice CB and LB an ageing CB no Scottie parker and ADE missing upfront you see we can all pick holes.

      Theres no doubt Man U will be right up there and more than likely above us at the end of the season and if AF wins the prem i guess you will be not be watching

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