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Ryan Giggs has been awarded the OBE honour on the Queen’s birthday, for services to football. He joins Bryan Robson and Beckham as other Man Utd players to have got this honour from the Queen.

Sir Bobby Charlton also spoke of his delight at Giggs’ recognition. And yes, even he wished what much of England have been wishing for a long time: “If only he’d have played for England!” United old boy, Teddy Sheringham was also honoured, although I wonder if it was for his ability to play in the Premiership till the age of 40, or for his very much active sex-life even at the age of 40.

Moving on, Quagliarella has practically asked us to bring him to Old Trafford.

On Thursday the player’s agent, Silvio Pagliari, claimed that United had already made firm their interest in Quagliarella with a big money bid, saying: “One month ago, Manchester United made a £10million offer.

Jade at Soccerlens is quite enthusiastic about him, and really seems to like him. Fair enough. His compilation videos are impressive, especially with those sweet long range shots. However, I am not very convinced about this deal for a reason. If United have to buy a striker, they must buy one who has a more proven and a consistent record. True, Sheva didn’t settle at Chelsea and even other class acts like Morientes have struggled. But at least you are putting money on someone who is proven. Yes, even this argument of mine may seem flawed to some, which brings us to Premiership alternatives that we’ve discussed here in the past.

The thing with strikers in Italy is that in recent times they’ve shown to be terribly inconsistent in their performance. Gilardino blazed a trail for Parma before struggling at Milan. A player like Luca Toni bloomed very late in his career, after several seasons of mediocrity. Many names come and go, but really there very few consistent goal scorers in the Italian league at the moment, save for your Tottis and Kakas. Even Adriano’s form has tapered off. Of course, it wouldn’t be right to generalize, so we’ll leave the discussion here for you to ponder.

And the Gudjohnsen rubbish has even made it to Manutd.com, who quote papers and people to summarize that the rumours were, in fact, rubbish. At least that’s what I want to think. I don’t want 9 million spent on a player who was shunted to a withdrawn striker’s role in Chelsea despite Drogba, Kezman and co being really shite over the two seasons before he moved over to the Nou Camp.

And finally, Manuel Fernandes, Nani’s childhood buddy warned the media to not expect too much from him too soon, which I think is fair. I really don’t expect him to blaze a trail straightaway. At present, a fit Park would be ahead of him in the pecking order, and we must let him take his time to improve and learn from his senior, Ronaldo. Ditto for Anderson.

And yes, a personal word to Nani. Every time you do those flips it will make my heart, those of the fans, and that of Fergie’s skip several beats. Please cut them down. Sir Alex is getting older by the day, and you do want your old man’s heart to beat normally.

15 Comments

15 Comments

  1. BootifullGame

    June 16, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    I think Becks should have been knighted.

    We’ve been linked with just about every available striker this summer and some that aren’t available too. Im wondering what the delay is in the striker department compared to our other quick buys. Admittedly, Hargreaves was anything but quick, but it was wrapped up pretty rapidly this summer.
    So many questions before we can get the answers every body wants…..who will we buy?
    So far we’ve had Owen, Bent, Berbatov, Defoe, Quagriella, Tevez, Torres, Huntelaar, Eto’o, Anelka, Kris Boyd, K.Doyle, Gudjohnson, Saviola and a handful of others as well no doubt and depending upon what you think the United team NEEDS this season you could make a good case for any of these players. I have my own preference and am looking forward to hopefully seeing Rossi in action this year along side perhaps one of the above, preferably either Torres or Huntelaar. Who we buy will surely depend on who we sell though. Smith or Saha? Will Ole be forced to announce his retirement earlier than he would like? It seems possible. Richardson/Sylvestre/Fletcher/Heinze are all possible candidates to head for the exit door too.
    One thing is certain, i think. We have still got work to do in the transfer market before our squad is ready to go for the new season.

  2. Aus_Devil

    June 16, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    I agree with the Dudjohnsen comments – while he may be an okay back-up option for us, I certainly wouldn’t be spending big money on him OR trading away an extremely promising young defender, in Pique. Smith, Saha, Rossi, Solskjaer are all more than capable back-ups so therefore if we are going to spend money on a striker he needs to be someone that will jump ahead of this quartet.

    I haven’t seen much of Quagliarella, other than the magic on youtube, and wouldn’t want the club spending big money on a player who, while spectacular, hasn’t proven himself over any period of time. If SAF is prepared to take a calculated risk, given the amount of research and scouting they would have done, I’m prepared to back his judgement. If we always wait for a player to prove himself then we’re going to pay big bucks… sometimes we may have to take a punt. Whether Quagliarella is the right one or not, I haven’t seen enough to decide yet.

  3. Aus_Devil

    June 16, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Sorry, I meant Gudjohnsen… maybe a Freudian slip though =0)

  4. Alvin Lim

    June 16, 2007 at 1:11 pm

    Again…nobody knows much about this Quagliarella guy. If Fergie is going to buy him…then maybe 10 million will do but anything more than that will be costly.

    Giggs? Well, he’s one of our greatest players ever…let’s hope he can go beyond whatever Sir Bobby has achieved. 🙂

    Mmm..seems like the Chelsea head scout is making some noise again. 14 Million for Nani is overpriced? Well…maybe. But didn’t someone mentioned Ronaldo was overpriced at 12 million last time? *grin*

  5. Keith Moses Kaira II

    June 16, 2007 at 1:23 pm

    Red Ranter, Jade is right about Quagliarella. Like Toni he is the real deal. He would be a real steal. I still think we are holding out for the fate of E’too and Torres though. Before attempting signing anyone.

  6. Red Ranter

    June 16, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    [Keith Kaira]
    Jade may be right, no doubt. At least I haven’t seen too much of him. But when you compare him with a player like Luca Toni while calling him the real deal, it is a bit worrying to me. Toni is 30 years old. Only the past two seasons have been prolific for him. Prior to that its been mediocre.

    Quagliarella hasn’t done too much in terms of being a prolific scorer to justify a transfer to OT. He may be promising, but the the striker’s position is one where I don’t want to be gambled upon. I’d rather see a promising Rossi blooded in rather than a promising import blooded in this season. We have invested heavily on youth in the past as well as this season.

    So now let’s either invest on proven quality for the striker’s role, or none at all.

    [Bootifulgame]
    Yes, if we do buy a big name striker someone has to be sold.

    [Aus_Devil]
    Yeah, thats what I thought too about Quagliarella. Not seen much to make a judgment.

    [Alvin_Lim]
    About the Chelsea scout and Nani, yeah. Case of sour grapes maybe. Will have to wait and see though.

  7. Ahmed Bilal

    June 16, 2007 at 7:07 pm

    Gudjohnsen and man utd – ask a benched striker if he’d like to play for league champs and he’ll say yes. ask him if he’s frustrated at being benched and he’ll say yes.

    oh well, one more rumour, file it RR 🙂

  8. panks

    June 16, 2007 at 7:11 pm

    In serie A the defence of the teams r good.They do not play at a fast pace as in the premiership,so there r not many goals scored and so the strikers seem to be mediocre and not very consistent.But look at the italian national team they r world champions and they have some very good strikers.If Quagriella wasn’t good enough then he couldn’t have broken into the national team looking at the wealth of good strikers they have.See the two wonderful goals he scored for italy in the euro qualifiers.it was the same when our wayne rooney came on the scene.plus SAF wouldn’t have made a bid if he didn’t feel that Quagriella was not united material.there would have been lot of scouting and research before a bid.I have full faith in SAF and his eye for good young talent.so i think Quagriella would be a very good signing for us.why not have him cheap now than to wait and pay more for him later? Giggsy should have been knighted for his outstanding contributions to the game of football. Chelski-case of sour grapes there.Wait Nani is going to be better than what robben could ever be.and by the way “red ranter” bayern munich r not foolish to sign a mediocre striker in Luca Toni specially when they r looking to rebuild a good team after a poor season.or are they wrong in their judgement?

  9. Alvin Lim

    June 17, 2007 at 3:03 am

    I believe if SAF feels Quagriella is good for the team, he will sign him (considering that he is not that expensive yet). Besides that…whatever stories or articles about him related to MU is pure rumors.

    Panks…. both Crespo and Shev were top strikers when they played in Serie A (much much better than Quagriella). When they came over to EPL…they screwed up. True, serie A has one of the best defence in the world…and Italian squad has some of the best strikers as well. However….it’s not easy for a player to deal with the tough tackling of english football.

  10. Keith Moses Kaira II

    June 17, 2007 at 9:22 am

    @ Red Ranter.

    When I compare him to Toni, I’m talking of Toni as he si now. the dangerous consistent Toni. I personally want someone young, who can give Rossi a fair shot at playing for us. Not another tp, finsihed article striker who will relegate Saha to the bench and make it impossible for Rossi to get games as a result. & Whether we like it or not we need back up for Saha as it stand now, for the coming season. None of the other fowards we have are the answer. Rossi is Rooney’s back up.

    If we get someone like Quagliarella, he can fill that role superbly. Also he an Rossi can from a good alternate partnership and grow together with players like Nani and Anderson. while providing quality cover for the likes of Saha and Rooney. For me adding someone proven is not all that necessary or a priority. Just a bonus. After all Saha and Rooney are pretty proven. It’s the cover for Saha only that’s questionable.

  11. Keith Moses Kaira II

    June 17, 2007 at 9:25 am

    And what’s more people, Smith looks as good as gone and Ole is too old. No one can honestly believe a strike force of Rossi, Rooney and Saha can carry us through a season with Saha’s injury records. If we buy a forward it has to be one who can cover Saha and yet not stop Rossi’s progress. The Italian best fits this description.

  12. Sam

    June 18, 2007 at 10:37 am

    I agree Keith Moses Kaira II, its a bit of a catch 22, we want a striker who is united capable, but who doesn’t affect Rossi’s development. For my Quagliarella seems like one of the most ideal candiates, young yet still has shown that he has got plenty of ability and under SAF may just take the next step to become a complete world class striker, if not he can be sold off as a very good striker. We are a buying club, we may not make all our money back, but we may just be investing in one of the next big things. Quagliarella’s goals on youtube also seem to be under a fair bit of physical pressure which will bode well for the english game. With Rossi and Quagliarella we may also own Italy’s future striking combination… a tantilising thought.

    For me we have to honour Rossi, and our striking options for next season may just be Rooney, Saha, Rossi, Dong, Ole and possibly Smith. Not enought to fight on four fronts. Lets loan out Dong, invest in another young striker i.e Quagliarella, who has shown ability and potential to work with and learn from ole, giggs and scholes in what may just be their final year together.

  13. BootifullGame

    June 18, 2007 at 10:51 am

    @ Red Ranter….

    They were rhetorical questions i asked.
    But at least you only went to the trouble of answering one of them.

  14. karl

    June 18, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    @ Keith
    I agree with getting backup for Saha, but disagree with getting someone un-proven and young. Getting someone young WILL either block Rossi’s progress or prove to be money wasted because Rossi outperforms him. Remember, SAF is eyeing Dong as well (it is important for him to shine within the next 2-3 seasons because of the Asian markets). I think someone like – a cheap – Benni will do.
    however, that said, SAF knows what he’s doing.

  15. Hiram Gakembu

    June 19, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    (Kaira II, Red Ranter)
    Forget about Quagliarella. We cannot buy a guy who has not proven himself over a period of time. Talking of 13 goals whole season, how difference is he from Ole Gunner who managed 11 still with injuries. We should move for Hunterlaar or Saviola. Others are just crap. I still believe in signing a very good striker so as we can be assured of goals even when things gets tough (like against AC Milan at San Siro on 2nd May 2007). A guy who can score goals from the slimmest of chances while sorrounded by the best of defenders. A guy like Ruud van. Saha can remain as a back up together with Ole and Rossi. Ole will go next summer. Saha can still be sold if he does not prove himself in the few occassions that he will get. This is my opinion, though…

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