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Liverpool: Far better equipped than Manchester United

Don’t let the title of this article deceive you, the original author of the piece really does appear to believe that Liverpool’s squad of 2012 is better equipped to take on the season than United, he even dares to suggest we could be heading for a spell in The Europa League next season.

Thanks to @nazeemmazhar for Tweeting this to us and making us aware of its existence, I hope it gives other as big a laugh as it gave me!

It’s been over a year now since I wrote an article stating my belief that Liverpool’s squad was as strong as Manchester United’s, based solely ‘man-for-man’, of course. As a team unit, they were still quite a way apart last season but I believe that we had players of equal – or better – quality, they just weren’t coming together as well.

But, then again, Ferguson’s great ability has always been getting team performances out of 11 average players.

A few weeks back, during the Liverpool v Man Utd game, I noticed a lot of comments from their fans along the lines ‘how are we being outplayed by a poor team?’, etc. and it got me thinking again: are Manchester United really so much better than us? I mean, sure, they still have that uncanny ability to pull wins out of…well, seemingly nothing but that’s all to do with Ferguson’s pact with the Devil.

When you get down to the finer details, you’ll see a group of very average players, ably assisted by one or two great. I’ve discussed this many times since the season started, with friends and family, and we all agree: Man Utd will struggle to keep up this year, perhaps even having to settle for a place in the Europa next season!

Already, they are 4 points behind a very consistently strong-looking Chelsea side, and I believe that City, Arsenal and Spurs are all much stronger this year and if they slip behind before Christmas, I can’t see them catching up. Sure, they’re in second now, but have they actually faced anybody decent besides ourselves and Tottenham yet? No, and they lost to Everton and Southampton also ran them pretty close.

So when I look over their squad and see players like Smalling, Jones, De Gea, Kagawa, Nani, Anderson and Young (all expensive and yet to convince) and stalwarts that are clearly past it like Scholes, Ferdinand and Giggs, I smile to think of the much smaller fees we paid for much higher quality players such as Skrtel, Agger, Reina, Allen, Sterling, Lucas and Shelvey, and the experienced veterans that we can still call upon such as Carragher and Gerrard.

As always, there is still the same element of respect and fear surrounding the club and that is something which, over the past 25 years, Ferguson has cultivated to perfection. Clubs still relinquish points and wins to Man Utd purely out of fear; they believe the game is lost before they even turn up and this psychological element probably gives them as many points per season as the somewhat dodgy refereeing decisions we all complain about with regularity provides them with. We saw this against Howard Webb and Manchester United on Sunday evening, but many teams will overcome the 12-men of Manchester Utd this season, of that I’m sure.

The result against Tottenham last week showed me something I saw – even against 10 men – when they were at Anfield a few weeks ago: huge vulnerabilities all over the park. We just didn’t have the capabilities to take advantage of them, but I believe many others (ourselves included) will, as the season progresses.

It may sound a bit rich to say this, particularly given our current league position (and our inability to win at home!), but I really don’t see anything about Man Utd, at present, that we should be concerned about. They’re above us in the league, of course, but it’s very early days and 9 points can be made up easily at this point.

As always, this is just conjecture and only my opinion, but at present there are only two things I am envious of Utd for: Van Persie and their current league position. In terms of our squads, ours is the better equipped – for both this season, but particularly future ones – and once we hit form, we should chase them down pretty quickly.

I’m almost certain that some will disagree, and everybody is entitled to their own opinions, but if we can pick up a solid, 15-20 goal-per-season striker in January and continue going from strength-to-strength prior to that, we are superbly equipped to have a better season, and maybe even aid Ferguson into early retirement in the process.

My favourite line has to be the suggestion by author, David Tyrer, that Jamie Carragher is in someway a more desirable player to have in a squad than Giggs, Scholes & Ferdinand!

What do you think? Have your say.

David doesn’t care to promote his Twitter account but @live4liverpool is the Twitter account of the original host site.

*Original article can be found here.



  1. Dave

    10 October 2012 at 22:53

    This is amusing, and Im a Liverpool fan! However, the thoughts of one random individual, who has probably never been to Anfield, are completely irrelevant. If I had no life, I could search the internet to find a United fan who thinks youre better than Barcelona. So what, its one fan, one pyschopathic lunatic (for all you know) on the internet writing what is in his mind. Who cares? Instead of writing about what he has written, how about you write about something interesting as you obviously fancy yourself as a bit of a journo with your little blog.

    • Ian

      10 October 2012 at 23:04

      @Dave: we/I usually do, but this was just too good an opportunity to wind you up 🙂

  2. cleggster

    10 October 2012 at 22:54


    • cleggster

      11 October 2012 at 23:22

      @cleggster: sorry i will put it another way….. wankers

  3. Spiv

    10 October 2012 at 23:08

    It’s fair to say that United’s defence has weakened over the past few seasons. Ferdinand’s form has dipped considerably, Evra has not had the best of seasons so far and Smalling is unable to establish himself as a regular first teamer. Evans has done well so far, but will surely lose his place when Vidic returns, so what will that do for his confidence? IMO United do not possess a natural leader. Jones was looking like a top buy at the beginning of last season, but his overall ability – especially in the CL and Internationally – has been found wanting. United have never successfully replaced Keane and the fact Scholes and Giggs regularly feature – who each turn 38 and 39 respectively next month – says it all. Nani has never really taken off and the keeper has so far proved inconsistent. Rooney can’t be loving the fact he is no longer seen as the ‘golden child’ now that RVP has joined and Carrick has always been a poor man’s Gerrard. So over the course of a season I do agree that United position will most likely slip but I’m not convinced they will drop to the Europa next season. However, United’s biggest concern is the who they will bring in to replace Ferguson and naturally the impact when he decides to retire. He will be 71yrs old at the end of this year so it’s only natural to presume his days at the helm are numbered.

    • Opti

      11 October 2012 at 02:19

      @Spiv: “Carrick has always been a poor man’s Gerrard”
      —The poor man has more trophies. Better stats. LOL. Keep dreaming. 2005 was 7 years ago. 1990s were two decades ago.

      Liverpool going for scraps.

      • Spiv

        11 October 2012 at 19:00

        @Opti: Are you therefore suggesting that Sylvain Wiltord was a better striker than RVP ever has been because he won 2 Prem leagues and 2 FA Cups compared to RVP’s 1 FA Cup??

  4. James

    10 October 2012 at 23:16

    contradictions everywhere. He says that when he looks at our squads he see’s ferdinand, giggs and scholes, who are passed it, yet he then says that it’s good that liverpool can still call upon experienced veterans like carragher and gerrard… He also says we’re 4 points behind a consistent looking Chelsea, suggesting it’d be hard for us to catch up, yet he then says ‘but its very early days and 9 points can be made up easily at this point’ when talking about liverpool… This guy should just stop commenting on football.

  5. Sean

    10 October 2012 at 23:18

    Fall back Liverpool your a prehistoric club 🙂

  6. ash

    10 October 2012 at 23:42

    liverpool will never win the premier league they are pants players like shelvey better than our players and the experience of carrager and gerrard is better than giggs and scholes ur deluded m8

  7. gB

    10 October 2012 at 23:59

    Hahaha! I was reading the article before on the scouse site. The rats will shut up after theyve lost a few more, they usually do

  8. steve davies

    11 October 2012 at 09:41

    Lad Someone ring Boots immediately for them to check the methadone prescribed, = on another planet 😕

  9. Stephen

    11 October 2012 at 11:53

    Poor Livepool, still living on past glories. This is going to be there year…..
    I have never known such deluded fans, the are a shadow of the club they were. Rogers is turning into another joke, the David Brent of football.

  10. colver

    11 October 2012 at 13:16

    I agree that there isn’t much difference between our central midfields. As Liverpool tend to have quite a combative dynamic midfield with our tendency to field a slow midfield against them such as Carrick and Scholes we can get outnumbered and outplayed in the centre of the park.

    But our attack and our wingers and defence (when fit) is vastly better.

    I agree that players like Anderson, Smalling, Young, Jones and De Gea are expensive and yet to convince. But none of those players are first team regulars.

    While Nani has been Premier League player of the season and Kagawa has already scored a couple goals and shown signs of class despite only playing a month for us.

    Why doesn’t the author mention players like Rio, Vidic, Valencia, Van Persie, Rooney, and yes Nani, all of whom would walk into the Liverpool first team easily.

    Of their players the only players who would have a chance of getting into our team would be Reina, Gerrard and Carragher (but only if Rio and Vidic aren’t fit).

    • Ian

      11 October 2012 at 13:41

      Carragher?? What? Now? 2012? Carragher? You’re kidding right?

    • Stephen

      11 October 2012 at 14:47

      @colver: Carragher? I don’t think he would make our bench matey.

  11. Amar

    11 October 2012 at 16:57

    He says Chelsea have leapfrogged us and lead by four massive points at this stage of season, which is a huge gap and resoundingly sounds like a death-knell for our title aspirations but at same time also admits that Liverpool are only behind United by nine points, the fucking temerity.

    19 times, Youse fucking scouse bastards!!

  12. davo

    11 October 2012 at 19:17

    I wouldnt be gloating about Liverpool and past histories. Manchester United turn is just around the corner. The difference is Liverpool isnt 500m in debt.

  13. dixie222

    11 October 2012 at 20:24

    I am a liverpool fan and do go to the games and watch everyone. Anyone who is saying that the liverpool team is quaility, just watch this season. leaked goals, cant defend a couter attack, cant score and have 6 points out of a possible 21. people have this unholy belief and god given right that they think Brendan Rogers will take the EPL by storm and create the new Barcelona. Fact is he is unproven at a big club and at present remains so. yes like other liverpool fans i hope he does do well but, liverpool are way off winnig the title with BR and the current funds, it will take time. the only possible way that liverpool would win the league in the next 2 years is if they sacked BR managed to get Mourinho in some impossible fashion and gave him 250 million to spend, yes we would win the league. honestly we are light years away. We hsve been saying the same crap for 20 years. In all honesty, i think the only way liverpool will win the EPL is by doing the option above, and that is not going to happpen. we will jsut fantasise and have blind faith in these so called young progressive managers that all are supposed to be like mourinho but lacking one thing, they are not him!!!!

  14. oric

    12 October 2012 at 00:28

    You’se united fans don’t know football fergie is doing match fixing that guy much be banned from football, I can remember when Van nistelrooi was top scorer by united he scored 19 penalties in one season, ronaldo top scorer 25 penalties and both occasions united won the league so how u say united is the best when united is favored

  15. Redrich

    12 October 2012 at 03:06

    Get real you scousers, your American owner is far more budget conscience than ours. So as far as January is concerned – it’s just a cold, stark month for you, with no late Xmas gifts and no relief for your misery.
    The best you can hope for is that Henry doesn’t pull the trigger on Rogers when his band of also runs loll constantly in the bottom half of the league.

    Get a new team, get a new stadium, …. get a grip!!

  16. Moscow

    12 October 2012 at 20:37

    Welbeck trying to score against San Marino… hilarious.

    • Moscow

      12 October 2012 at 20:45

      @Moscow: Yeah he scored against San Marino, rip me to pieces guys 😛

    • Ian

      12 October 2012 at 20:55

      Welbeck scoring…..hilarious!

      Go on Welbz, deserves that goal.

      • Redrich

        13 October 2012 at 03:50

        @Ian: Can it be possibly that Welbeck is getting better?? Or is it possible that England are so bad that Welbeck is a stand out?? Or is it that San Marino is not a good benchmark?? Or is it that no matter what, Welbeck is always a pariah on this blog??

        Please, this a young man who has room to grow – not a washed up has-been who’s seen his best years. If there was one United player that has shown progress, it would be him. People are foolish if they’re writing him off at this stage.

        OK, slay me. 😀 😀

        • Opti

          13 October 2012 at 05:44

          @Redrich: England to win WC2014!!!! YEEEEEHAWWWW!, m8s!!!

        • Ian

          13 October 2012 at 15:23

          I think you’re right. Maybe it’s because he’s English they want him to fail? Who knows, it’s very anti-English this site… can all look out come Tuesday when we’re doing another Live Blog….of the England game -)

          Welbeck will have the last and loudest laugh in the future….and I’ll be right behind him to highlight some of the comments on here!

  17. colver

    13 October 2012 at 13:09

    Welbeck is never going to be a world class striker. That would not be a problem except for the fact that with our midfield deficiencies we actually do need to have two world class strikers. We don’t get any goals from midfield so Welbeck’s profligacy is a huge black mark against him especially as the service from midfield is often crappy. So you need players like Rooney and Van Persie who can score in any team.

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