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Yesterday it came to everyone’s knowledge that 5 players from the United academy were released. A club statement was issued:

Midfielders Michael Barnes, Sean Evans and Ritchie Jones and defenders Kieran Lee and Michael Lea are all free to leave Old Trafford as of 30 June. Academy striker Chris Fagan and fellow scholar Conor McCormack have also been released.

The youth system was discussed in great detail yesterday, so I’ll spare you from another argument on the youth system.

Louis Saha wants to prove his fitness and stay on at United. I’ll give him credit for aiming to prove a point. But other than that his injury record has spoken enough that Fergie’s patience must have run thin by now. So sorry mate, we just can’t take any more chances with you.

And since this is a quiet day and will continue to be so, let me breeze through the rest for the day:

Gary Neville reckons he has a battle on his hands to force Brown off the right back position and reclaim it.

Rio Ferdinand is ‘sure’ that Ronaldo will return to United.

That’s all from me for now — aah, my head doesn’t feel right — a little rest and I’ll be ok. So off you go.

Till tomorrow.

66 Comments

66 Comments

  1. Grognard

    June 30, 2008 at 3:13 am

    Red Rich; I’ll dismiss it any damned way I feel like mate. I’m an upset fan of the other team who just lost so perhaps you can cut me some slack before pelting me with your political correctness, holier than thou bullshit. And watch your mouth when you call another person a racist. I for one am not a racist and calling someone a wanker has nothing at all to do with their racial or ethnic makeup. It’s not my fault Italians and Spaniards celebrate in the streets like assclowns. 😡

  2. Grognard

    June 30, 2008 at 3:15 am

    Red Rich; This is the first time (to my knowledge) you have ever appeared on this blog and all you do is put down and accuse another blogger of being a racist. WOW! Welcome! 🙄 And trust me others have said worse about players and countries on this site so get used to it or butt out.

  3. Red Rich

    June 30, 2008 at 3:38 am

    @Grognard: Your comments needs explaination. Do you really mean that Spaniards, like Italians are like wankers?? (all of them) because they are celebrating in the streets. I am, humbly, more of a browser than a contributor but you did present yourself in an ambiguous manner. You have suggested things that have irritated me. You have your right to your opinion – however, I have the right to mine. RR has suggested that your comments are excusable by the smiley. You are now suggesting my comments are disregardable by my newness to this blog.

  4. Red Ranter

    June 30, 2008 at 4:05 am

    red rich: the comment policy is plain and clear. as long as there is no personal attacks here it’s ok. I know very well the context in which he made those comments. He was obviously bitter by the defeat. I’m sure he knows better than making sweeping generalizations over a nation. I have a good idea that he said it referring to the footballing culture of the Spanish and the Italians. To me it’s similar to calling Scouse bastards or Chelsea wankers.

    And this blog is far from politically correct. If you take a cross section of comments out of context you are going to get something that doesn’t sound right.

    I’ll say it now again, that particular comment you were referring to is right in my eyes. In that context it is ok.

  5. Red Ranter

    June 30, 2008 at 4:15 am

    [Red Rich]
    And calling any one a racist without asking him to clarify his stance amounts to a personal attack on this site.

    [Grognard]
    Being new to the site has nothing to do with value of opinions. Never disregard comments just because they are from new posters. You don’t get a VIP pass because you are senior. No one does.

  6. Red Ranter

    June 30, 2008 at 4:20 am

    Any more comments on this issue will be entertained through emails.

  7. Piper

    June 30, 2008 at 4:54 am

    So, its done! And, yes groggy, clear case of sour grapes. The Germans were absolute rubbish yesterday. Could’nt get the ball out of their own half after the 60 th minute in a meaningful manner. And it was really funny to watch Frings and Mertesacker to keep losing the ball in the midfield and then defend like idiots by jumping and sliding everywhere. I couldn’t believe Spain didn’t score out of those countless errors. Im not a fan of either team(not England either) and wanted to see a good match. But those German players never came to play. But all credit to Spain, they played when it mattered.
    PS: Did anyone notice that Fernando Torres looks more like a Senorita? I bet she puts make up before coming. I really think if she had big jugs, she would actually be hot. 😆

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/euro_2008/7375956.stm
    Go to picture 16

  8. Grognard

    June 30, 2008 at 5:01 am

    Red Rich; Red Ranter comment in post #54 explains my motives and my feelings perfectly. I am sorry that you seem to take more offense to something that is clearly not directed at you or that is racial. Sorry that you feel offended as I never intended to insult or offend anyone on this blog. I am clearly upset over the loss but I do have a bias and dislike for the antics of certain cultures in the manner of their celebration and complete disregard for the rights of others. To have to tolerate them or endure their loud, rude and obnoxious manner after a major victory is really difficult to take if you live in a city that has a large collection of these supporters. All fans celebrate and party when their team or country wins but Italians and Spaniards just have a way of doing it that I find offensive.

    Calling them wankers is not a racist slur. Like RR said, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal fans and players have received far worse on this site than what I dished out today. In fact, I praised and congratulated Spain for winning and being the better team. But having lived in Canadian cities with big Italian and Hispanic communities like Vancouver and Toronto can be very trying when one of their clubs or national sides win a trophy. They take to the streets like a mob and act like idiots. They aren’t the only ones but they are the ones that piss me off the most because I hate their leagues and their national teams. And again sorry about that Red Rich, but that is my right and I am entitled. And lets not forget that this is a “RANT” blog. Ranting isn’t always friendly, polite and with the use of the queens English. It occasionally can be rude, obscene and crass, not to mention classless. So please lighten up a bit and stop taking things not direct at you or any other blogger so personally. Still, I am sorry you reacted that way and I’m sorry for losing my temper in my reply. Hopefully there is no hard feelings. 🙂

    And smilies are intended to convey one’s intent as to avoid any misunderstandings. Please don’t take them lightly. I use them for a reason. I don’t hide behind them. 😀

  9. Shreyas

    June 30, 2008 at 5:05 am

    Good article by Martin Samuel about russian players:
    http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2008/06/none-of-these-p.html
    SO what do you guys make from this, Russians are not good travellers, or that the Spartak members were great as a team, but no individually?
    Also, what do you make of his comments on Arshavin, eh Gorg?

  10. Red Rich

    June 30, 2008 at 5:50 am

    @Grognard: I thank you for the clarification. I do believe that your passion overwhelmed the content of your comments. It is truely difficult to access the emotions of ones loyalties when we discuss National teams. For one I did not realise that you were going for Germany so whole heartedly and of course, why you speiled emotionally on Spain.
    Without any further comment I would say you have made your intentions clearer.

    However RR I would like to disagree further. –

    Liverpool are wankers, and
    Chelsea are bastards.

  11. Grognard

    June 30, 2008 at 5:59 am

    Red Rich; No, Liverpool are Scouser Bastards and Chelsea are money hungry wankers (except for Ballack) and Arsenal are Arseholes. I still have my misguided loyalty to the German skipper although it jusy kils me that he plays for Chelsea. 😀

  12. Red Rich

    June 30, 2008 at 6:25 am

    grog. It would kill me more if he played for United. He declined that op and went to SB. Why? It was a perfect fit. Money hungry Chelsea and Money hungry Ballack.

  13. Grognard

    June 30, 2008 at 7:46 am

    @Red Rich: Yes I think you are right. It’s good to see any money grubbing greedy bugger get a little comeuppance. He got the money but he never wins any trophies. Somehow I think right about now he wishes he had selected Man Utd.

  14. Tomas

    June 30, 2008 at 9:46 am

    No United player won the Euros, but I bet, our players are still the most happy out there atm. The Euros are something special, but it’s still what you win with your club that counts the most. Actually I’m a little bit satisfied that none of our players won the Euros, because that might keep them hungry for next season – defeats allways do.

  15. Tomas

    June 30, 2008 at 9:49 am

    @Grognard: I completely agree that it’s too early, and that’s exactly why, I’m interested in knowing what people think. The rest of the summer is now dead in a footballing sense, and so I need to get my fix another way – one is through debating next season 😀

    Hope we’ll sign someone soon, so I can enjoy that in stead of speculating, which is right now what floats my boat as a fan.

  16. Grognard

    June 30, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    @Shreyas: Arshavin has shown he has the ability to go one on one with anybody and kin them consistently. Although he is one component of a team oriented operation both with Zenit and Russia, he has never had shackles placed on him and he quite often has the freedom to do whatever he likes similar to Ronaldo at United. The problem with Russian’s is the fact that very few of them have ever played outside of Russia and I think they suffer from culture shock and then because of this and their natural stubbornness they internalize and fail to perform. The talent is their but can they perform outside of their country? Valid concern and certainly a risk when you talk about any player from Russia. Arshavin seems like a player who has an ego and has aspirations and ambitions that go outside of Russia. That’s the first sign that he may be able to adapt. He wants to go, he’s not being forced to go by money or a team that no longer wants him. His skill level is also better than any Russian player I have seen since Igor Belanov in the late 80’s. None of the Spartak players mentioned in the article can even hold a candle to him when it comes to individualistic skill set and craft. And yet he applies all this ability in an unselfish and team oriented environment. I think he could be a success but it really depends on the team he goes to. United for example play a system where he could thrive in as do the the two Milan teams and Arsenal. I’m not sure about other teams and his team of choice Barcelona. I don’t think he could succeed with so many individualistic players like Messi on the pitch at once. I could be wrong but I think he needs to part of a squad that truly plays a team game.

    And when it comes to United, I imagine him as a player for us only if Ronaldo leaves. I also think he may have a problem playing his game with a me me me player like Ronaldo on the field with him. But who knows? Somebody needs to take a chance as he is no bigger risk than swooping for some South American starlet. 80% of them never pan out either. 🙂

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