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United Battle City With Top Spot On The Line

Over the years, there have been many significant matches between Manchester United and Manchester City. In fact, every Manchester derby is significant, if for no other reason than the city rivalry and the bragging rights that come from being on the winning side. But is it fair to say that few clashes between United and City compare in importance, hype, and anticipation than today’s showdown at Old Trafford? Yes, yes, and yes.

Some might try to say it’s just another game, and sure enough, it is, because it alone won’t be the match that decides the Premier League title, what with there being 29 more matches left for both sides. But when you’ve got fierce city rivals battling it out for top spot in the Premier League, it’s more than just another game, even if it it’s only October.

RECENT HISTORY

If today’s match is nearly as thrilling as the last meeting, then we’ll be in for one of the matches of the season.

United and City faced off in the curtain-raising Community Shield in August, and those who packed Wembley were treated to a classic. It didn’t look like it’d be that way for a while, as City went into the break 2-0 up thanks to goals from Joleon Lescott and Edin Dzeko.

However, as we’ve seen time and again, deficits aren’t a deterrent for United, and they came out roaring in the second half. By the hour mark, it was 2-2, thanks to Chris Smalling and Nani, but the best was saved for last. With time running out and penalties looming, City had an opportunity to fashion a winner from a free kick. However, Wayne Rooney hoofed a clearance away, and then City decided to go to sleep defensively, allowing Nani to win the ball, break free, leave Joe Hart stranded, and slot it home for United’s latest dramatic winner against City.

TEAM ANALYSIS

Manchester City

After ending their long trophy drought by winning the FA Cup last season, City are chasing bigger things this season, and they’ve gotten off to the kind of the start that’s to be expected of a title contender.

In eight Premier League matches, Roberto Mancini’s side has seven wins and a solitary draw at Fulham, and they enter today’s match two points ahead of United at the top of the Premier League. In starting as they have, they’ve put up some extremely impressive numbers. They’ve scored at least two goals in every match and have netted 27 goals total (and conceded only six), and six of their seven wins have been by multiple goals.

It can be said that there have been a few slow starts in the bunch, as they weren’t able to break through against Swansea, Everton, and Blackburn until the second half. And domestically they haven’t been tested like they will be today, and they didn’t pass a comparable test in Europe against Bayern Munich. But when they’ve been on, they’ve been unstoppable, so from a quality standpoint, there’s no doubting what they have on offer.

City didn’t make a ton of additions this past summer, but the notable ones that they made have played key roles in their hot start. Sergio Aguero, signed from Atletico Madrid, has hit the ground running, scoring eight Premier League goals. The other notable addition, former Arsenal star Samir Nasri, has been an early hit as well, notching a Premier League-leading six assists.

Much of the core from last season has heavily factored in as well, with the exception of Carlos Tevez, who United fans know (and some still love, more than likely). Tevez won’t be on the pitch tomorrow, and he might not ever be for City again. However, instead of all of the Tevez drama seemingly hasn’t affected City too much yet, which could be considered a sign of progress.

Manchester United

United relinquished top spot in the Premier League by virtue of their 1-1 draw at Liverpool last Saturday, in a match that saw selections that were perhaps head-scratching if the expectation was to see United attempt to take the game to Liverpool.

However, after not seeing Wayne Rooney and Nani in the starting XI at Anfield, and seeing Danny Welbeck deployed as the lone striker in a formation that was built exactly for the result that was achieved, we’ll see a much more attacking lineup today.

This is not to say that the approach at Liverpool was incorrect, because one point > none in the big picture, and one point > none in the three previous visits to Anfield. However, today calls for a much different approach, and it’s reasonable to expect to see it.

It would be ideal to have Tom Cleverley back in the reckoning, but it appears that this match is just a bit too soon for Cleverley. That’s highly unfortunate, because his return could see the return to the same United we saw at the start of the season. However, with the threats that Nani (as City can attest to, hey?), Ashley Young, and Wayne Rooney can provide, United have the horses to navigate the course successfully today.

There are, however, three important selection-related questions:

1) If, as he should, Sir Alex Ferguson elects to go with two strikers, will he partner Rooney with poacher extraordinaire Chicharito, whose penchant for being the right man in the right place at the right time is always a bonus, or will he go with Danny Welbeck, whose energy, versatility, pace, and creative ability could wear City out?

2) Who will start in the center of midfield? United need to be able to hold their own in the center of midfield, so this is a very, very important decision for Fergie. Anderson and Carrick partnered up in the center against Otelul Galati on Tuesday, but could and should we see a combination of Anderson and Phil Jones in there today? Just throwing that out there, in case United go with the tried and tested partnership in the center of defense.

3) Is Ferdinand-Vidic still the go-to pairing to man the middle of United‘s back line? Rio didn’t exactly have a memorable game against Liverpool, but he provides valuable experience and leadership that are handy attributes for a match like this one. A combination of Jones and Chris Smalling occupying right back and that non-Vidic slot in the center looks to be the way of the future, but is it the way of today as well?

PREDICTION

Given how close almost every recent meeting between United and City has been close, and how several of them have been decided by late goals, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see the same again today.

But while there isn’t much to separate the two sides in terms of talent, one major difference is that United’s ability to win these kinds of matches has been proven time and time again, while the same can’t be said for City as of yet.

While it’s anyone’s guess as to what we’ll see from City today, it’s a certainty that United will not only come out with a gameplan and a starting XI designed to get the three points, but more importantly, they will be where they need to be mentally to get the win as well.

And as an added bonus, there’s the matter of Old Trafford being Old Trafford, and it’s sure to be rocking as United win a 20th straight home Premier League match and return to the top of the table.

Score Prediction: Manchester United 2-1 Manchester City

95 Comments

95 Comments

  1. Nikos

    October 23, 2011 at 9:19 am

    I would like to see an open game, but judging by the two coaches this game will be a close encounter woth no many chances. We are always more attacking when playing home, but the past few years Fergie is so much more consevative than he used to be.

    I also expect Berbatov up front so he can slow down the pace and we can build up some attacking plays or some set pieces.

    They are taller and stronger and this slow pace wont’ be good for us.

  2. Craig Mc

    October 23, 2011 at 9:28 am

    As I said in the last thread – shame on anyone who backs United for a loss at OT, so glad to see you predicting a United win Eddi. 😀 So once again COME ON YOU REDS, and fuck off you blues back to Wastelands, because until you Wastelanders win something of NOTE – this City is red and its ours!

    • Stephen

      October 23, 2011 at 9:44 am

      Spot on bro! Lets get behind the lads, this is the biggest game of the season. We are a very good side and more than capable of beating Shitty!

  3. johnsom33

    October 23, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Look for a repeat of the charity shield game, with cleverly coming on at halftime and you will see our time actually moving the ball around and players interchanging positions making city run in circles.

    I don’t know why Berbatov would start this game, everything he “supposedly does” Wellbeck “actually does”.

    I really hate these early kick off sunday games. its pure tortue for us out here on the west coast of the US. the game is at 5:30am so its too early to try and enjoy your saturday night and still wake up. But its also too big a game to not be excited about, so going to bed early doesnt really work. It feels like christmas morning for me as a kid and my damn parents wont wake up already haha.

    • Eddie

      October 23, 2011 at 11:15 am

      Sleep? Psssssh.

  4. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 11:38 am

    I think it will be a lot tighter than the Charity Shield. It is easy to put on a show when nothing is at stake. But this is a must-not-lose game for both sides and I think both teams will line up fairly defensively.

    The team I would pick would be as follows:

    DE GEA-Smalling, Evans, Rio, Evra-Nani, Fletcher, Anderson, Young-Rooney, Welbeck

    Very dynamic. A lot of energy in midfield to cope with the powerhouse Toure and the movement of Silva and Nasri. Very strong on the wings which is where we are going to get the most joy attacking City. And our best forward pairing.

    But in all likelihood we will get this:

    De Gea-Smalling, Jones, Evans, Evra-Park, Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs, Young-Rooney

    I am just hoping we do not put Jones and Fletcher together in midfield again.

  5. Nukeleus

    October 23, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    From Soccernet:

    Manchester United’s starting XI: De Gea, Evra, Ferdinand, Evans, Smalling, Fletcher, Anderson, Nani, Young, Rooney, Welbeck.

    WOW- way to go Colver!!

    Manchester City’s starting XI: Hart, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy, De Jong, Barry, Milner, Silva, Aguero, Balotelli.

  6. Traverse

    October 23, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    De Gea; Smalling, Rio, Evans, Evra; Nani, Fletcher, Anderson, Young; Rooney; Welbeck

  7. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    God Damn. I picked the same team as Fergie!

  8. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    Thank God Toure is not playing. He was a beast in the FA Cup Semi. Without him in the team we can easily handle their midfield. Only really difficulty is keeping Silva quiet.

  9. Traverse

    October 23, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    He is, in place of De Jong. Doesn’t matter. Deadly Danny Welbeck is gonna score a hat-trick. 4-1 United!

    THIS CITY IS OURS!

  10. [OPTI]Madschester United

    October 23, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    Just got back from a conference and am ready as ever for this game.

    United to win with home advantage: 3-1. De Jong for red card, Welbeck and Chicharito for MoM.

    Come on you boys in red!

  11. Don

    October 23, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    United!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Berba must have splinters on his bum by now poor chap..

  12. Don

    October 23, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Nani looks up for it…

  13. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Oh dear. First blow City. We have to get tighter on Silva. That guy is total world class.

  14. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Oh dear. CraigMc will be all over Rooney’s poor touch in his post game commentary.

    This is shaping up to be a real classic. So welcome after the Liverpool-Manchester United bore fest.

  15. godzilla

    October 23, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    We are terrible in the last 3rd. dominating till then but we cant seem to penetrate. Nani is not hjaving a great game either. Come on guys !!! Pick it up 2nd half!! If we lose we will be 5 behind city and probably 2 behind chelsea….

  16. gator

    October 23, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    Why did belendteli have to survive the housefire? The world would be a better place without his dna in it

  17. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    Sad to say but City look the better team. Much more dangerous going forward and rock solid at the back. Our only real threat is on the counter. Once City have men behind the ball it is a closed shop. And we do not have the creativity in midfield to break them down.

    Just like with Barcelona earlier this year we cannot deal with City’s wide players drifting inside. Silva is giving us nightmares.

    I’d load the midfield adding Giggs or Carrick to the mix, taking off Young and playing Nani Rooney and Welbeck as a fluid forward line.

    • RMJ

      October 23, 2011 at 2:28 pm

      I think without cleverly, we are both even…we are lacking a midfielder who is capable of shifting into the final third when attacking.

      But Rios lack of pace is showing…he still has his awareness but shitty’s front four have apce to burn and at this level well….

    • RMJ

      October 23, 2011 at 2:29 pm

      @Clover…both giggs and carrick are not on the bench which baffles me more than anything else

      • Craig Mc

        October 23, 2011 at 4:05 pm

        Giggs has got a hamstring injury mate – so wasn’t fit to play!

  18. RMJ

    October 23, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    and thats that

  19. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Red card for Evans! Our job just got a billion times harder.

  20. Don

    October 23, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    As much as Jonny Evans had some good moments in the first half that was some real schoolboy defending by Mr Evans…never been a fan of his after last season’s performances…he is at best a squad player..never a starter for me in our bigger games…

  21. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    This is an utter nightmare. Balotelli the most annoying idiot in the world (with the sexiest girlfriend) becomes the hero and City play the kinda football which makes it impossible not to admire them.

    If they pull this off and beat us today at our home ground we will have to drop the silly nonsense of “noisy neighbors” and take them seriously as the greatest threat to our domestic dominance since Mourinho’s City.

  22. donibrasco

    October 23, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Poor poor game,and the performances recently have not been good.But we are still United even in the face of defeat.I hope Fergie wakes up and addresses the issues this team has had over the past few weeks.
    Fans are going to jump on individual players but for me,there is something terribly wrong with the whole team chemistry.If it was up to me,a few radical changes would have to be made within the playing staff.I would even go ahead and look at the coaches to really understand where this is coming from.Did our flying start deceive us?

  23. phoenix red

    October 23, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    this is embarressing!3-0 down at home! terrible from United, clinical from city

  24. Vivek

    October 23, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    Hopefully we can keep the score down to 3

  25. Don

    October 23, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Can we have a new left back please? Mancini has exposed our left back problem to great effect…I’m a bit disappointed with the fans at the stadium….walking out with 20 min to go…

  26. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    It is not just about Evra. We made poor use of our early possession. Zero penetration once City had shut out Young and Nani. Our defence was unable to deal with City’s movement just as it struggled against Barcelona’s movement in the Champions League final. We gave them too much space and did not close their players down. And we left ourselves too vulnerable on the counter.

    Great goal by Fletcher though. He is one of the few players who has impressed me today. He has gotten forward well and helped us keep possession in the early stages of the game.

    • Don

      October 23, 2011 at 3:17 pm

      I agree we have really lacked penetration…we seem to struggle against teams that are able to stay compact defensively when the likes of Cleverly is not playing…at the back the only player i absolve of blame is smalling who has barely put a foot wrong…they have all been out of position and too slow on recovery…Vida can’t be back soon enough…i’m not sure why he didn’t play today…i don’t share your confidence about fletcher…he and anderson are the players who are providing penetration…

  27. donibrasco

    October 23, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    And whats has Hernandez got to do to start every game?

  28. Craig Mc

    October 23, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I should have been at the game but the Missus is not well so couldn’t make it. Glad I didn’t now, because I would have been tearing my hair out! I watched most of this shambles from the sofa – and to be honest we had the first 20 minutes of this game but WE STILL CAN’T SCORE. How many times has Johnny Evans done what he did today – he let his team mates down again! Why wasn’t Vidic playing – he would have been better than Evans. Still perhaps a good hiding in the end will cause Fergie to stop his bloody foolish comments that he is happy with what he has got 😀 . As for Rooney’s 1st touch – well today has proven I am right about this and it cost us, but Wazza wasn’t the only one. He will never be world class with that kind of 1st touch – sorry Stephen. Still if we are honest we were due that hiding the way we have been playing of late!

  29. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    donibrasco don’t think Hernandez would have made a difference. The service simply wasn’t there.

  30. Don

    October 23, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Rio is done at United..and Evra possibly as well…

  31. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    Spot on Craig. City had better movement, better penetration and were much more solid in defence. They deserve to win. We were ill disciplined, too static, too open and totally lacking in creativity.

    What we did to Arsenal, City have done to us. This is a true watershed moment. City are now resolutely equals and unless we get our act together they may well finish the season as our superiors.

    This defeat was coming.

    How many more footballing lessons do we need? First Barcelona. Now Manchester City.

  32. Traverse

    October 23, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    Evra and Evans should never pull on a United shirt again. Ever.

    • AndyCR7

      October 23, 2011 at 3:26 pm

      He is the best LB in the world!

    • Don

      October 23, 2011 at 3:29 pm

      Rio was as much as fault…his lack of recovery speed and mental lapses were at fault for at least 2 goals..there was no heart in this performance at all…knowing Fergie he won’t overreact but he will make changes….i do think this is Rio’s last year at United..he just doesn’t have it anymore…to think he was rested for the CL and he still put in a shift like that…for me its clear…back 4 should be Fabio-Vida-Smalling-Jones…we need Cleverly back with the quickness and we definitely need another creative player in the middle whether it is a player from the youth setup (morrison, Pogba) or whether we spend money…rooney and welbeck and fletcher were some of the few players that showed a desire to want to win this game or at least get a result….i have never seen a United performance like this where we actually gave up!

  33. Moscow is my heaven

    October 23, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    I have nothing to say. I knew this was going to happen.

    This is a day much worse than Liverpool’s 4-1 result, both Champions League final defeats combined. This is the end of the fucking world.

    • Craig Mc

      October 23, 2011 at 3:43 pm

      Oh do give over mate – this is one truly lousy game in a season. It is where we go from here that matters. Perhaps Fergie will listen to the pros and fans now – FERGIE our MF is poor poor poor – rank bad in fact and had been for 4 fookin seasons.

      I am going to stick my neck out here and say City will not win the PL – I think personally it will be Chelsea if it cannot in the end be us! Fergie will be hurting more than any of us believe me – but IF it makes him sort the MF out by buying quality in January – well good. Also whoever said they are not convinced by Welbeck – I don’t think you are wrong – he was not in the slightest influential today, but then he is 19 and to my mind I know people won’t like this but we needed experience on the field and Berba who can and does hold up the ball and hardly ever gets dispossessed and OWEN who can give goals in tight games should have been considered. Evans should not play in BIG games when Vidic is available. End of.

  34. [OPTI]Madschester United

    October 23, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    Let the blame game begin. I am pissed off to the High Heavens!!! A nuclear explosion took place inside of my and I am trying to contain myself in a civilized environment…

    • Craig Mc

      October 23, 2011 at 3:56 pm

      Nothing wrong in a good nuclear explosion mate – especially IF it results in Fergie finally realising that we need a totally new EFFICIENT MF and though we won before with kids – the game has changed and our present crop of kids need time. It is a very sad day for me to say that RIO is not cutting it anymore – and his love these days seem to be for things outside of football – too much activity outside the game. One thing for sure that City will NEVER hammer us like that again! They had a purple game today and those don’t come along so often!

  35. AndyCR7

    October 23, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    WOW 😯

  36. Don

    October 23, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    Ashley Young where have you disappeared to?

    • Craig Mc

      October 23, 2011 at 3:35 pm

      Don Ashley Young ALWAYS found wanting in the BIG games – and that is the truth mate. Against the big boys he is wanton in his game. But todays performance is not down to any one player!

      • Don

        October 23, 2011 at 3:39 pm

        He seems very lightweight and gets pushed around easily…he needs to hit the gym like Nani did…

  37. donibrasco

    October 23, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    Wow,who ever thought it would go this far! Today we have been exposed and now we should start looking at our team for what it really is;a disjointed bunch of players whose talent is undoubted but who choose to be one dimensional. Once the wingers are shut down,the attack is dead.
    Our midfield remains a worry and Clevs is not the answer.Maybe he is better than what we have,and that remains to be seen,but we should break the bank for two central midfielders.

  38. colver

    October 23, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    This isn’t about a blame game. As a team we were outclassed. The sending off did not help. But City had much better penetration and movement all game and played much better football and looked much better organized and solid defensively.

  39. [OPTI]Madschester United

    October 23, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    First of all, Ferguson tried to be attacking, yet the selection of Fletcher (which may have been forced upon him due to lack choices) seemed to divide his selection between an attacking front of Welbeck, Rooney, Young, Nani, and Anderson and a defensive troupe of Fletcher, Ferdinand, Evans, Smallings, and Evra. This dichotomy led to a disjointed team effort that struggled to create clear-cut chances. Fletcher, in particular, was unable to bridge the gap and get our offense flowing. Nani’s poor performance did not help either and I am not sold on Welbeck yet.

    Blame: 51% Evans, 20% Evra, 10% Ferdinand, 9% offense

    • johnsom33

      October 23, 2011 at 3:44 pm

      agreed 1000% i just dont see where fletcher fit in with this lineup. I dont think him and anderson work well in a two man midfield. but having said that it wasnt his fault or even the team selection. We just werent up for this game and City were. we have been playing with fire and if fergie keeps putting shackles on the team like he did against liverpool and all the other trash then he cant expect his team to just rise to every occasion.

  40. Spizzy

    October 23, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    WOW

  41. [OPTI]Madschester United

    October 23, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Our defense is a shadow of it’s former glory — no wonder, when it is missing its cornerstone: Vidic and Ferdinand is aging rapidly!

    • Don

      October 23, 2011 at 3:42 pm

      I think Vidic is still OK..Ferdinand for me is not good enough for us anymore…he just doesn’t have the pace anymore…and now he has started to show mental lapses which is even worse…it has been a while since defense was an issue…i wonder if Fergie wished he had Wesley Brown….this Jonny Evans is to mistake-prone! his red card has got to be one of the softest most unnecessary red cards i have ever seen!

      • [OPTI]Madschester United

        October 23, 2011 at 3:53 pm

        I meant Vidic is our cornerstone (i.e. best CB). Ferdinand is aging!!!

  42. Man Utd Jaluo

    October 23, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    What just happened? Hope this is the end of both rio n evans..worst defending ever? Gotta agree with craig, we was due a hidding..

    • Craig Mc

      October 23, 2011 at 3:49 pm

      Yeah it hurts being right though mate 😆

  43. Moscow is my heaven

    October 23, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    Looks like all those apologists going on about potential midfield recruits not fitting our system can truly shut the fuck up now. We could have played a Sneijder-Kaka combination in midfield and had as much, if not more defensive protection today.

    I said the 4-4-2 was outdated, I said we needed to evolve, what else was going to happen when we field two midfielders, completely out of ideas, lacking composure and with inferior physicality against a midfield QUARTET from which you could pick Yaya Toure who would single-handedly neutralise Anderson and Fletcher.

    I thought I was lost for words, but everything is surging back now. I am going to rip this team to shreds 😡 😡

    • johnsom33

      October 23, 2011 at 3:47 pm

      haha here you go,please explain where sniejder would have made a difference. and did you shut the fuck up when cleverly and anderson tore city to shreds in the community shield? yeah, i didnt think so.

    • Craig Mc

      October 23, 2011 at 3:47 pm

      No fucking point mate – we got stuffed so just leave it at that. No United fan worth his salt want to hear the negative whining today – we already had our belly full of disappointment – so let it go eh mate?

      • [OPTI]Madschester United

        October 23, 2011 at 3:52 pm

        I watched 90 minutes of this. I have a right to be negative. Worst results in our EPL history and probably further back than that.

        • [OPTI]Madschester United

          October 23, 2011 at 3:54 pm

          Can’t imagine the fury brewing with Grognard and others who had to wake up at 5:30 in the morning… they deserve liberation through expression of anger.

        • Craig Mc

          October 23, 2011 at 4:16 pm

          If Grognard starts on a day like this and is not sensative to United fans when they are down – well everyone will just ignore his posts – and the same with any other person who wants to ram down our throats what we already know!

        • Craig Mc

          October 23, 2011 at 4:14 pm

          After a game like this United fans need to be LIFTED out of the doldrums – after all they will be getting all this shite from City fans until we meet them again – many United fans have to go into work among City fans in the weeks to come AND to be honest in the pubs around Manc land – altho if the shitty fans come on to United fans in the pubs there won’t be many going home without black eyes – because drink with the young United/City supporters will start brawls like you’ve never seen before. I would be lamping a few of them if I was still in Manc land 😆 😆 😉 😉

        • [OPTI]Madschester United

          October 23, 2011 at 4:25 pm

          Unfortunately, we have Aldershot coming up in next game, so we might be wasting our “response” on a meaningless game…

        • gator

          October 23, 2011 at 4:35 pm

          just tell them come back when youve won 19 😆

        • Craig Mc

          October 23, 2011 at 6:16 pm

          I am telling them “Come back when you have won ONE PL TITLE” because beating us is not winning title is it?

  44. Vivek

    October 23, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Quite simply, the darkest day of my life as a United fan. I feel like jumping off a bridge, my friends are never gonna let me live it down..
    On the game, I stopped watching at 3-0, so was absolutely shocked at the final score..I mean what happened to the pride of the players. 3-1 is a wakeup call, 6-1 is downright humiliating. I hope the players have the guts to talk to the media, and I hope that they take a good look at themselves and decide whether they are worthy of putting on the jersey ever again

  45. Moscow is my heaven

    October 23, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    So Rooney and Nani have bad games, and this is the result?

    WHAT DOES IT SAY FOR A CLUB OF OUR STANDING, that we have not established a first choice midfield, despite NO new names coming in and despite countless rotations and different combinations? Were we able to call on the supernatural powers of Pogba today, because Fergie hyped him up as reason enough for us not to sign a midfielder?

  46. [OPTI]Madschester United

    October 23, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Knee-jerk Ratings:

    DdG: 5 – not a horror game, despite 6 goals, but it’s still SIX goals.

    Evans: 2 – had an OK first half, but mistakes like the red-card offense are Tim-Howardesque and cannot be tolerated at United. It changed the game completely.

    Ferdinand: 4 – poor. Looks out of shape and not focused (family issues?)

    Smalling: 5 – pretty poor game in 2nd half but that was with a man down. His crossing is also rather poor.

    Evra: 3 – where do we start? Out of position and City raped his left wing time and time again. LB is now our main weakness and it was ruthlessly exposed.

    Fletcher: 5 – poor first half, misplaced passes, and generally not able to bridge the gap between defense and offense. Brilliant goal, nonetheless.

    Anderson: 5 – poor second half. Seemed gassed.

    Nani: 4 – worst game this season. A non-presence and made it far too easy for Clichy and City.

    Young: 6 – tried his best and created most of our chances; however, his crossing was poor today.

    Rooney: 6 – usual self, but without proper service from the wingers and CMs. Hustled and won many balls but was never in position to threaten City’s defense.

    Welbeck: 5 – wasn’t at fault for a lack of service, but some poor passing and wasted opportunities did not go well with me. Should not have started over Chicharito, who SHOULD be our first partner with Rooney.

    —-
    Chicharito: 5 – did all he could do. Won a couple corners but was not a threat without winger presence.
    Jones: 5 – did not see him do much. A couple crosses and a stumble with the ball.


    Ferguson: 5 – hampered in part by injuries, but when it wasn’t working in 1st half, I did not see a change in play in second half. Maybe he is free from fault since our offense lacked clinicality. I don’t think this humiliation is his alone.

    • [OPTI]Madschester United

      October 23, 2011 at 3:57 pm

      I will increase Chicharito’s grade to 6, as he provided the “assist” to Fletcher. He was on for 25 minutes and did more than Wellbeck in 90.

  47. Moscow is my heaven

    October 23, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Which brings me to Jonny Boy. He could be a powerful weapon. We could loan him out to one of our arch rivals and he could fuck them up something funny. I feel enlightened by his new role for the United cause.

  48. [OPTI]Madschester United

    October 23, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    So much for Eddy’s hypothesis regarding resting players for Liverpool game… what a waste of rest.

    • Moscow is my heaven

      October 23, 2011 at 4:09 pm

      Certainly kept us fresh didn’t it. Fresh meat for the dogs 😡 😡 😡

  49. Moscow is my heaven

    October 23, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    How apt that it was Patrice ‘Skinned Sausage’ Evra who captained the side out on a day like this. Real Madrid/(whatever team Evra thinks he can sign for) certainly dodged a bullet right there. Out of position, predictable, no-end product, and without an ounce of self-respect towards the end (I’m surprised he was close to tears, the only thing missing was a smile as he happily let the lumbering Dzeko and Balotelli past him, very courteous), sometimes you have to wonder why he exists?

    We could sign Konchesky and his position in the side would be untenable. Let’s remember that this guy engineered an entire country’s collapse in the WORLD CUP FINALS. His powers of self-destruction are unmatched in any LB I ever knew, it even looked like CLICHY was giving a clinic in defending with the contrast that Skinned Sausage created.

    • tonymontanna4united

      October 23, 2011 at 6:42 pm

      Evra is the best LB in the whole god damn world, dont you forget it 😉

  50. [OPTI]Madschester United

    October 23, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Ferguson:

    “You cannot believe the scoreline if you look at the first 30 minutes of the game. The sending off was a killer, it was a long way after that with 10 men. It is a bad defeat. The impact will come from the embarrassment of the defeat. Without doubt there will be a response to that.”

    Pretty much sums it up in a civil manner without blaming anyone. Oh, and there better be a damn good response over the remaining season. I want blood and Viking-style pillaging football…. no more mercy! No more excuses!!! 👿 👿 👿

    • Andrei

      October 23, 2011 at 4:11 pm

      ” I want blood and Viking-style pillaging football…”

      I hope you don’t mean Minnesota Vikings 😕

      • [OPTI]Madschester United

        October 23, 2011 at 4:14 pm

        I mean actual Vikings 🙂 😈 😈 😈

      • Craig Mc

        October 23, 2011 at 4:20 pm

        😆 😆 😆 😆 you go Andrei

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