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United Lay the Smackdown on Bolton

Well all I can say is this is really a fun start to the season. It may be very unrealistic to expect this young Manchester United team to maintain this kind of torrid scoring pace and incredible form for an entire season but we can dream can’t we? Today’s contest was truly another massacre in which we imposed our will like lions feeding on Christians. Once again our big guns came, saw and conquered. I love the killer instinct this club is showing and although they went into a bit of a lull midway through the contest, they still managed to create chances a 3/4 speed. I prefer them playing 90 minutes in ramming speed but I am also realistic.


For those who never saw my player ratings I say go back to the previous thread and check them out. It has become increasingly trendy and very addictive having to offer up ratings and just wreak of positives and kudos for the lads and for Fergie who seems to want to let them play and enjoy themselves rather than force them into that boring conservative possession game they played the last two years.

This club reminds me more of the La Lakers in the Magic Johnson ‘Showtime’ years when they would run ‘n gun and fast break teams to death. United are using their pace and it’s not just creating chances, it is physically exhausting the opposition which opens up space and opportunities for us to also score late goals as we did today and against Arsenal. The pace and flow is simply intoxicating and I honestly cannot recall a period in United history when a team that was so young played with such pace and yet controlled the game and tempo like veterans.

For years we have been hearing about Arsenal youth movement yet Fergie has quietly put together a juggernaut of quality players who are younger as a team than what Arsenal are fielding these days. Big difference is the quality of our players and their decision making showing so much more class and maturity than the Gunners have.

Among the stars today one only has to look at Phil Jones and Anderson to understand how dominant we have become and how the spine of this club has been so solidified by the development of players like Smalling, Jones, Anderson, Cleverley, Welbeck and Chicharito. And De Gea must be included because he has the look and potential of a future great keeper even if he is a bit shaky right now. In fact, I am of the belief that Smalling, Jones, Cleverley, Welbeck and Rooney will be the spine or backbone for United as well as England for years to come. I have always been a believer that you build a solid team from the middle out and we are truly blessed with the players we have in the middle and then I get positively giddy when I think of the wingers we have in Young, Nani and Valencia as well. We are positively overflowing in talent right now and we still haven’t seen Paul Pogba.

Killer Instinct: Version 20.11

As for the match, I really felt the game was in the bag after Bolton had a sure goal cleared off the line by Rooney shortly after we took that early 1-0 lead. That was uplifting for us and demoralizing for them and then when Rooney struck from that great cross from Phil Jones, well it was lights out. The difference between this team and last year’s team is that last season we rarely ever scored early, especially on the road. And we never ever showed killer instinct after going up by 1-0 or even 2-0. This season we just dig down and yell, “Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war” and simply pummel our opponents. We are living by our new motto of show no mercy and take no prisoners.

This team has a sadistic quality to their game and above all their finishing has been nothing short of rapier sharp so far this season. How many chances did Rooney have today, three? He scored on all his chances barring perhaps one. Last year I felt we were rather wasteful at times and even thought there are a lot of games left to play, the sharpness and clinical quality of our finishing is a bright addition to our overall play.

As for the individual performances today, let me examine four key players for special praise. Who still thinks Wayne Rooney isn’t world class? Be off with you if you do. My man of the match, Wayne has turned it up a notch and he looks leaner and hungrier this year but the key addition to his overall game is he seems totally focused and not distracted like he was last year. Hell, last season he never reached his 8th goal of the season until April. This year he looks set to invade the 30 goal arena for the EPL season and may tally over 40 in all competitions.

And what of his strike partner one Mr. Chicharito? A great performance with great goals and even more so his great display of pace and dazzling runs that left his opponents bedazzled and confused. The run he made on his first goal cannot be taught but it should still be shown in classes as it was truly epic In nature. There were a few times he was wasteful but overall, he was back and we can surely count on him for yet another fantastic season bulging the old onion bag.

Special praise must also go to a player I have been very critical and bloody well cruel to over the years. Mr. Anderson has grown up it seems. He looks to have dropped some weight and has found the spark and the confidence that was lacking and now his pace, vision and desire is completely controlling the midfield and I love his one touch passing and quickness not to mention his new found ability to finish off and score a goal now and then. Still, now that Cleverley will be out for a while I think the smart thing is to move him into the attacking midfielder role that Cleverley had and play Carrick farther back or better yet, bring on the mystery man Paul Pogba so we can see if he truly is the next Patrick Vieiera.

Special Praise For a Seemingly Special Talent:

Finally I would love to send out special praise to my new favorite United player along with Cleverley, on Phil Jones Esquire. Top notch mate. Phil is 19 yet he plays like he is 29 and has bin der and dun dat as they say. The future skipper of England is a beast and I have given him the nickname King Conan because he truly plays like a warrior and delivers the killer blow in attack as well. Two assists for a Centre Back turned Right Back is pretty impressive but the way he went about showing immense skill and confidence was nothing short of sensational. I admittedly scratched my head when we signed him because I could not wrap my head around signing yet another central defender when we had other holes to fill. I’m not scratching my head any longer. Instead I am on my knees praising Fergie and the good lord for delivering Phil to Old Trafford.

5-0 and the beat goes on and another foe bites the dust. Seriously mates, I could get used to this positive vibe shite. This club is not just a joy to watch but they have given the self appointed Prince of F$%&ing Darkness a seriously overdue vacation and for that I am eternally grateful. I needed a break from the dark side.




  1. Traverse

    11 September 2011 at 15:54

    When Bobby Charlton says you remind him of Duncan Edwards, you are a special special talent. There is no higher compliment. Phil Jones was a monster yesterday. The run for our 3rd goal was damn fine for a 27 year old midfielder. Amazing for 19 year old Center Back! Needs to cut out those highlights though…..

    • RedDevilEddy

      11 September 2011 at 16:24

      He should get fucking punk ass spikey hair! He looks too friendly now, although I like disguises he’d look awesome with punk hair.

      Or just go bald like Keano did. When he went bald, you could easily mistake him for a serial killer.

  2. RedDevilEddy

    11 September 2011 at 16:09

    Man Utd’s Tom Cleverley suffered ligament damage in his foot, no broken bone but still could be out for four weeks

    Thank God, he may be available for City! 😀

  3. Nikos

    11 September 2011 at 16:35

    That’s one of the rare moments where I will talk about Barcelona’s winning attitude.


    1. Barcelona never stop when winning 2-0 or 3-0.
    2. They usually score 4-5 goals against weak opponents.
    3. This makes the stronger opponents fear them and the weaker opponents hopeless.
    4. These results give them great confidence advatage against any opponent.
    5. This advantage reinforces the already strong team meantality.
    6. By using this combination of results and mentality (mentality feeds the results and vice versa) they built a great squad which is feared by everyone. Also, this squad has now grown so much that can rule every team on the pitch. These are the players that have won the Euro 2008 and the WC 2010.
    7. This huge combination of victories-mentality have made them fearless and even greedy. They won’t let anyone take their place. So, they dive and someday we will see them tackle the referee.


    Anyway, what has stuck in my mind. Well, what is stuck on my mind? I think Fergie and the other coaches want to create a similar way of thinking by forcing players to win everything in a great way. This will make the opponents fear them etc….
    Maybe it’s true and maybe not. But at least we have to admit that the Spaniards do have this metality advantage and they will try to keep going like this… even if they have to tackle the referee… even if they have to become something like greedy Real Madrid or Chelsea (Chelsea -it was Paulo Fereira- tried to break Messi’s legs and I think it wasn’t just one time they tried to do this)

    Just some thoughts.

    P.S. : I like Barca’s greediness better than Mourinho’s greediness who is bastard and really forces his players to heavy-tackle their opponents. I would never like my opponent be ruled out by a tackle like Kevin Davies’s one.
    P.S. 2 : Step no.7 will never be liked by me. I would never like our players dive and be sissies. All the other steps sound good to me.
    P.S. 3 : Kevin Davies help yourself and fuck off.

    • Nikos

      11 September 2011 at 16:38

      I would like to “hear” your views on these thoughts. I know you all want Davies fuck himself, but on the other thoughts we may disagree or you may have to add something to them. So, tell me I’m a Barcelona fan and enjoy it. (if you do this last one then you are kevin davies’s twin brother)

      • Grognard

        11 September 2011 at 17:16

        Barcelona is the great Satan and so that makes you a devil worshiper. Congratulations. Remember to trim those horns before you go out. You must be so proud. 😀

        • Nikos

          11 September 2011 at 20:54

          Kevin Davies’s twin brother.

    • RedDevilEddy

      11 September 2011 at 16:55

      Well, for one thing I would be really surprised if this is something new to you. One of United’s great advantages in the past have been that opponents fear us, and often crumble. This is the reason why we have so many comeback wins. We are so known for winning games after going a goal or two down, that as soon as we get one oppnents know what is coming and they crumble. This is of course also because our lads believe in themselves and are mentally strong, but as a United player, and as an oppnent, you know how often Manchester United come back from the dead and it gets stuck in your mind.

      Other than that, teams have been fearing United for years! Whether it was because of Robson, Keane, Cantona, Ronaldo, Becks or Rooney, we have always been recogniced as the best in the country. There is a reason why team like Sunderland and Villa park the bus when playing us. There is a reason why every other football fan who isn’t a United supporter hates us. Our success, our great play… We are feared, people are jealous of us. This is why I hate watching people talk about Barca on this blog, it’s sad, bitter and tragic. We have talked about Barca the way other fans have been talking about United for a couple of decades now! I don’t fear Barca, in my mind we are better than them, and we are the best team in the world. Why the fuck care about those Spaniards? 😕

      All those points you brought out about Barca and how United are trying to replicate them have one very big downfall… It’s been happening with us for 20 years mate 🙂

      • Nikos

        11 September 2011 at 17:04

        LOL. I know what Manchester is. Think it eitherwise. They may fear us in England, but winning every opponent easily and scoring 4-5 goals against every team and whatever tha stadium is… that’s even more scary for the opponents.

        So, Manchester are really huge.
        This doesn’t mean that Barcelona are huge, too. I’m not an admirer of them nor I say that the opponents aren’t scared by us. I’m just saying that when you use all of your powers makes you look even greater. 4-0 is better than a late-one-goald-difference win.

        Also, it’s totally true if we say that we are not THAT feared in Europe for all these twenty years. Let me say we are feared the last 13 years and some of them we were really weak in Europe. Anyway, keep it coming. I would like to hear more of you. Be sure I know the greatness of this club and the winning mentality and the I-can-score-whenever-I-want mentality.

        • Grognard

          11 September 2011 at 17:21

          There are ethics in sports. Class, sportsmanship and decorum which Barcelona have no idea what these terms mean. I would rather beat my opponent and have them respect me than to humiliate them, cheat them and then spit in their face. Killer instinct is great but it’s how you serve it up that matters. Barcelona humiliate themselves when they run the score up because they do a lot more than just score goals. They cheat and stain the game with their antics on and off the field and for that they come across as a classless and tactless outfit.

        • RedDevilEddy

          11 September 2011 at 17:31

          Over the years we have been the most scoring team in the Premier League. We have famous victories over teams like Spurs, Chelsea and even Arsenal who go as far as 5-3, 5-2, 6-1 and even 5-0 wins. Last season we beat Blackburn 7-1, in 2008 we scored 4 goals four games in a row, and if we don’t include last season’s horrible away form we usually score many goals on the road. And this is a much tougher League than the Spanish!

          You say Barca score whenever they want to, but don’t we do that as well? I’ve watched a lot of Barcelona games since their rise in 2008, and most of the time they win big it’s because of a three or four goal lead after 30 minutes before they spend the rest of the game just boring the opposition. This is not saying they aren’t a good team, I’m just saying that their “impressive” attacking play isn’t so superior to ours. Scoring goals at will has never been a problem for United, if anything it’s how often we seem to WANT TO score that is questionable. Attacking play has always been a crucial part to Manchester United, and despite the last two seasons being quite “boring” in that area, we have still been the most scoring team. Chelsea got a couple of 6-0 and 8-0 wins towards the end of the 2009/10 season, but that was mainly because safe teams like Wigan and Stoke couldn’t give a fuck considering their League position.

          You keep talking about Europe… Well, if you look at Barca’s results in Europe last season you will see that they didn’t get so many big wins. They beat Arsenal and Real 3-1. We beat Chelsea 3-1. They beat Shaktar 6-1 on aggregate, we beat Schalke 6-1 on aggregate. In the group stage their only big win was 5-1 against a very weak Panathinaikos side at home, while our was 3-0 in Turkey.

          If you want to talk history then how is this? Ever since 2006, when we went out in the group stage against Benfica, we have had some memorable wins in the Champions. 7-1 against Roma, 3-1 away to Arsenal, 4-0 against Dinamo Kyev, 4-0 against AC Milan, and as mentioned a 4-1 win against Schalke in the semi finals. There are also some 3-0’s against teams like Celtic, Roma, Wolfsburg and even Benfica. We don’t score 5 so often, but that’s mainly because we have had tough draws in the Champions League. Compare our Valencia, Rangers, Celtic, Roma, Wolfsburg, and Benfica to Barca’s Panathinaikos, Basel, Wisla Krakov and Levski Sofia and you see where I’m coming from.

          Besides, during the last 5 years we have scored 4 or more goals more often than what Barca have. 🙂 Talk about scoring at will…

        • Nikos

          11 September 2011 at 21:06

          Manchester United 78 GOALS FOR 37 GOALS AGAINST +41 GOALS 80 POINTS

          Barcelona 95 GOALS FOR 21 GOALS AGAINST +74 GOALS 96 POINTS


          1. I know that Spanish League is not as difficult as English one.
          2. My purpose was NOT to compare Barca to us. Never liked comparing two unique things that are great for different reasons. My purpose was to see if you think that SAF and the technical staff have learned one more lesson. It was Wenger that taught us some lessons and made us better. It was Mourinho who made us better and Queiroz who helped a lot with the 4-3-3 formations. Now, it’s maybe Barca’s turn and the lessons we were taught by them that will make us better.

          I think that this is one of SAF’s attributes that kept him here for so many years. He has the ability to adapt the game of MU in a way that will take the best tactics around Europe and combine them with the already established tactics. He is so great that he keeps changing some things.

          Once again : I like MU’s football better, I will not support Manchester if our players dive and be gay like the spaniards… I’m a fcking RED!!!

        • RedDevilEddy

          11 September 2011 at 22:16

          Coming with the goal difference and Barca from the La Liga isn’t really considered a valid argument 😛 It’s honestly just Barca and Real there, the fact that Messi and Ronaldo combined for 74 goals in just 67 apperances speaks for itself.

        • Nikos

          11 September 2011 at 22:18

          I know that and already mentioned it.

        • RedDevilEddy

          11 September 2011 at 22:28

          But yeah, considering your point about United taking Barca’s game and perfecting it… I kinda agree. We have added some of their quick passing to it, but still with our own pedigree and philosophy of wide play. We are a team who have a combiation of Italian and English defending, Latin and Scottish midfield play, and English wingplay. Our attack is unique, what Rooney and Hernandez are doing at the moment is something I’ve never seen before. Calling it a 4-4-1-1 is a disgrace to this formation, the closest I can call this is Dutch football at it’s best! But still don’t know, our attack is now unique… Won’t say we have taken in how Barca play, I’ll rather say we have perfected the United way of playing. 🙂

        • Nikos

          11 September 2011 at 23:11

          At last! You understand what I’m saying now!

          Elements of Mourinho’s and Queiroz’s marks in the premier league were so obvious in our game , even in 10-11 season. We can now see some new elements in our game. These combinations outside the area (the one touches, the very fluent game) are of course something new. I have seen the Keane, Scholes, Beckham, Giggs midfield + Yorke – Cole up front being very fluent. But now we are faster and we have a great english wide play.

      • Grognard

        12 September 2011 at 03:56

        I know we score goals late to pull it out of the fire but it’s nice to see us having the killer instinct to score late even if we are up by two or three. It shows that we are in fourth gear for 90 minutes and not just the first 15 minutes of each half. Teams fear us but they also have to endure us for 90 minutes and we often have let them off the hook by not punishing them after we get a lead. I like the cut of this team as they play greedy.

    • Lars

      11 September 2011 at 17:31

      Didn’t Barca just lose a 2-0 lead against weak Real Socieadad? (Rhetorical)

  4. Grognard

    11 September 2011 at 17:24

    Looks like Tom Cleverley will only be lost to us for a month with ligament damage. Great news. Although I cannot understand how their trainers and medical people could not tell the difference initially. I kind of felt there was no way it was a break just by the way he was walking off the field. And testing his foot afterwards would easily have determined whether it was a break or a sprain where ligaments are involved. Personal experience tells me this but then again, these same people thought Hargreaves was finished. 🙄 🙄

    • RedDevilEddy

      11 September 2011 at 17:39

      Football is growing soft mate. 15-20 years ago the things you would look for in a footballer was strength, pace, vision and passing ability. If you were a hard tackler that wouldn’t be bad either! These last couple of years the main emphasis has been on skill and pace. Very rarely do you see modern footballers lift weight and try to grow strong at the gym while at a “young” age. These days, more people are trying to become like Messi instead of Ronaldo. A human monster of a footballer which everyone should look up to, strong, brave, and although he may dive at times he certanly doesn’t go down injured after a soft tackle. No, they’d rather be Messi and become a player who gets easily fouled. This lack of strength makes them more injury prone, or as I would say it less used to pain. Myself it takes a lot to get me injured or have me walk off, but I often see people go down and scream as soon as somebody touches them. It’s disgusting. 🙄

      Kids these days very often scream for their mommy whenever they get a scratch. You know what I did? I would fall down from a tree, get in a fight with kids a couple of years older than me, and do risky things we often made me need stitches just because I though it was fun to experience the thrills! Who the fuck needed mommy’s hugs when I could just get back up and experience the joy of managing to climb the tree which had given me so many wounds in the past?! 😈

      • Grognard

        12 September 2011 at 04:01

        I totally agree. Modern players are superior athletes but they are also mentally soft and lack real guts and the ability to play with pain or discomfort. Today’s athlete would never play with20 stitches in his head and a broken nose like Brucey did or play an entire second half in a world cup semi final with a broken collarbone like Beckenbauer did in 1970 and score a goal. Millions of dollars and Ferrari’s take the hardness out of a man. Football used to be a blue collar game. Now it’s not even a white collar game. More like a pink collar.

    • Traverse

      13 September 2011 at 20:41

      The reason they wouldn’t have been able to tell the difference initially is that both injuries swell up the same, and practically feel the same to the injured party. The boot was a sensible cautionary measure, and then getting it scanned asap after the game. Do you know how many bones are in a foot? When you ‘break your foot’ it’s not one bone that’s gone. It’s not like a lower leg. Two bones, break one and it’ll stick out at you!

  5. Moscow is my heaven

    11 September 2011 at 17:49

    Hernandez makes me feel dirty 😈 😈 😈

    • RedDevilEddy

      11 September 2011 at 17:59

      Because he seems more innocent than a catholic nun? 😆

      • Moscow is my heaven

        11 September 2011 at 18:04

        I don’t know but something about him is disturbingly attractive 😯 😆

  6. colver

    11 September 2011 at 17:54

    Lets not ruin our enjoyment by comparisons with Barcelona. They play in a mickey mouse league which allows them to peak just as the Champions League hots up so they can let their superior talent show. Also I would rather watch paint dry than watch Barcelona. Whereas we have been hugely entertaining. We never used to be able to keep up that kind of tempo and pace for more than ten minutes, now we are doing it for most of the game.

    I think our team definitely benefits from all the fresh blood. We have had pretty much the same team since 2007. The only thing that changes is our forwards. For me that is the definition of madness as our team has gone backwards over the last four years.

    Now we suddenly have Young, Jones, De Gea, Welbeck, Cleverley and Anderson building on a great pre-season and hitting peak form. It is a totally different team and a great improvement on the old team which peaked in 2008.

    Rooney has truly emerged from Ronaldo’s shadow, is being played in his best position, and as Grognard said there can be no doubt he is world class. Is there any forward better than him besides Ronaldo and Messi? Nope. And personally as he is much more of a team player than Ronaldo and better suited to the Premiership than Messi I wouldn’t swap him for anyone in the world.

    • RedDevilEddy

      11 September 2011 at 18:05

      If we compare this team to our 2008 Champions League final team you see how big a difference it is.


      Brown Rio Vidic Evra
      Hargreaves Carrick Scholes Ronaldo
      Tevez Rooney


      De Gea
      Smalling Jones Vidic Evra
      Nani Cleverley Anderson Young
      Chicharito Rooney

      That’s 8 fucking changes. Eight! As many as we put past Arsenal! 😆 The only players who remain are Vidic, Evra and Rooney, and if anything Vidic has now grown from being “One of the best” centre backs in the world to become “THE” best. As for Rooney, well… He’s matured from being an inconsistent player who didn’t really know his position, into probably one of the top three players in the World.

      Just compare our fucking midfield!! From the slow, albeit solid, midfield of Carrick and Scholes, to the quick and unpredictable Anderson and Cleverley. Best thing is, despite Tom and Ando being so unpredictable and quick thinking, their passing rate the last 4 games have been 85%+ ! It’s amazing, and a joy to watch.

      This team will go far

      • Grognard

        12 September 2011 at 04:16

        It’s not just making changes but the players who have improved greatly since last season like Rooney, Evans, Cleverley and especially Anderson. Last year putting Anderson didn’t make us a better team. This year it does.

      • Nikos

        12 September 2011 at 12:07

        These 3 players were the most consistent even back then. Really, that was what I believed back then.

    • Grognard

      12 September 2011 at 04:07

      Well said mate except I would swap three Rooney’s for Ronaldo. For me he is that damned good. Rooney is world class but Ronaldo is Universal class. 😀

      • Nikos

        12 September 2011 at 12:09

        Ronaldo is a diver, like those you hate.

  7. RedDevilEddy

    11 September 2011 at 17:58

    I really struggle to understand how someone can support both United and Barcelona. 😕 Although they both are superior in their League, score a lot of goals and have some of the most talented players in the world, there are many obstacles and differences between the teams.

    United have a very rich history which relates to life, as in the Munich accident, how this club was made, and what happend to Old Trafford during the war. Our philosophy is very different to Barca, whereas they saying is “Win in style”, our’s is “Be the best”. The clubs have two completely different ideals when it comes to winnig! Barca will do everything to win, even if it would be diving, cheating, or even turn to things that don’t belong in football such as racism, personal attacks and mentally disturb the opposition by doing vocal and physical things. United on the other hand, look far into themselves, try to find every little inch of fighting spirit and talent our players possess, into scoring a goal. We never say die, we never stop playing football OUR way, and young, quick football will always mean a lot to this club. Grooming players! People who love this club and know what it stands for. I’ll give it to Xavi, Messi, Iniesta and Puyol, but don’t you guys forget that Barca were considering getting rid of Xavi in 2006. And their “young guns” like Cesc and Pique are an embarresment to football, in the way Barca went after both of them. Can you ever imagine United going after Ryan Shawcross or Ronaldo that way? I certanly could’t!

    If I love United it goes far beyond our manager, our players, or our success. History, ideals, the way we play, our unity, those things mean much, much more to me. And Barca are a disgrace there. Love United!

    • Moscow is my heaven

      11 September 2011 at 18:36

      Top post

    • Grognard

      12 September 2011 at 04:14

      As much as I want to agree with you in theory I ask myself if I could learn to hate Bayern Munich if they destroyed United twice in a final? The answer is no as I have been a Bayern fan for almost 40 years compared to 35 for United. As it is, United is number one in my heart but Germany rules big time over England. What can I say I am a complex and confused soul. 😀 😀

    • Nikos

      12 September 2011 at 12:17

      When I said “it’s the way you win” somebodey (in this blog) told me I’m an Arsenal fan…

      We all know that Barca players are just bastards in the pitch. I admire the fans who want to express their passion for independence, but in the other hand that’s a little bit stupid , cause football or basketball trophies won’t win the independence for you… probably they will make you sleep even deeper and in the end make you satisfied so as you want no independence, but just football trophies.

  8. Craig Mc

    11 September 2011 at 18:04

    Eddi – FFS telling Jones to get spikey hair – he did enough damage to Lil man with his head as it is. Imagine him hitting Nani with his spiked hair, it would be like stabbing with a rapier type blade – might as well give Jones a stilletto – go the whole hog eh?

    Regarding Bar-fell-ova – one thing I do agree with Nikos is that they are a team who always look to go forward – none of the shit back passing streaming like United have done the last 2 seasons. Fergie has had a memory jog as to what he called ‘Football the United way! – cavalier football, fast and mesmorising. Long may it continue. LONG LIVE LOUIS NANI and his flair play on the wing, well until cruncher Jones tries to take him out again – watch it Jones’ey I know where you live!

    • RedDevilEddy

      11 September 2011 at 18:07

      What? 😯 Mate, I’ve never seen anyone make as many back passes at Barca, which team have you been watching?

      • Craig Mc

        11 September 2011 at 18:19

        Errr well I never watch Barca except when they are playing against English teams in CL. They are always looking to go forward in those games, and when they played us pre-season they were always looking to go forward – so that is what I was forming my opinion on 😆 😆 😆 👿

  9. [OPTI]Madschester United

    11 September 2011 at 18:47

    From Groggy:

    GK: De Gea 7/10 – Truthfully, not much to do but when he was needed he was there and I am still stoked about his quick thinking and attack minded distribution that led to the fourth goal. He continues to make many of us nervous while his footwork and positioning at times is still way off but like I said before, he is a worthy work in progress.

    RB: Jones 8/10 – Was outstanding in the first half and quietly efficient in the second. Great deflection assist and run for the third goal. His aggressiveness is a breath of fresh air. Both he and Smalling make our back four fantastic due to their considerable ability to adapt to multiple positions and excel. Needs to stop hurting Nani though.

    CB: Rio 7.5/10 – Efficient and a calming influence back there. It’s great to see him back and hopefully his injury prone recent history is truly history. Thought his decision making in the box was strong and he was strong on high balls.

    CB: Evans 7/10 – Is slowly but surely extricating himself out of my doghouse with more confident and less panic stricken performances. His clearances have been better and his positioning and one on one marking on balls into the box looks much improved. Still, I did notice a few small lapses that came to nothing.

    LB: Evra 7/10 – Didn’t have much to do but defended well even at times when he was in to much and out of position. Did very little from an attacking perspective but these days that’s a good thing because I am tired of watching him get caught up field.

    RM: Nani 8/10 – Had a great match with some strong dribbles and excellent low crosses. Showing an aggressive and confident streak here he is not afraid to try things. I loved his run into the box for the fourth goal where he was tripped but led to the goal. A very aggressive and bold move that paid off in the end. Still needs to make better decisions when shooting. Very sexy with greased up hair too

    CM: Anderson 8.5/10 – Almost makes it as my man of the match but not quite. His distribution and pace and especially his ability interact with his team mates with quick one touch football was fun and exciting to watch. Didn’t create many chances but that’s because he was playing back a bit. Was still a driving force that I am sure freed up space for the wide men to exploit. Frankly, I am amazed this is Anderson. A bit sloppy at times but I like the fact he is trying to make something happen unlike Carrick who is scared of trying something for fear of the hairdryer.

    CM: Cleverley NA – Obviously did not play long enough to rate and his injury looks serious. Hoping the cast was just precautionary and all he has is a sprain.

    CM: Carrick 7/10 – Played a very cautious unimaginative game with a bit too many back passes for my liking but he was tidy and never got a step wrong and also assisted on Chicharito’s second goal thanks to a nice deflection that came to his feet. Nice to have a player of his caliber on the bench even though I do have issues with elements of his game.

    LM: Young 6.5/10 – Did not have a bad game but was quiet and did not reach his standards. I guess he allowed Nani to have the bulk of the spotlight today. Still, he made some nice runs and was always a threat.

    CF: Rooney 9/10 – Man of the Match. He was very clinical finishing scoring three and working his pants off. Biggest play of the game was when we were leading 1-0 and he cleared a sure goal off the line. A striker that does that in a non-corner situation should be praised. His runs and vision were there today but his finishing was sublime and wreaked of confidence.

    ST: Chicharito 8.5/10 – So wonderful to see him back and scoring. His first goal was a work of art not so much because of his excellent finish but for his amazing maze like run to free himself in the process. You cannot teach that, it’s basic instinct and truly Muller like and predatory. His first touch still seems to be a weak point in his game and his lack of greed although commendable, needs to be checked in as he is a goal scorer and he should take his chances when he has them rather than trying to go for the cheeky assist. Also loved the way he hassled Jaaskelainen. It was comical fun.

    SUB: Giggs 7/10 – Ws not on for long but I thought his moves and vision was great and he delivered a beautiful through ball to Rooney which at the end should have been a goal from Chicharito. I believe using him like this can extend his career for a few years.

    SUB: Smalling 7/10 – Did nothing wrong and was efficient as always. Not much time to really get involved but was still very sure of himself.

    Overall I felt it was another outstanding performance by the lads. 18 goals in their first four games is a record and let the music continue because it is bloody well intoxicating to be sure. Fergie has allowed them to play with passion and pace and to articulate their creativeness, which is the big difference between this team and the club of the past two seasons at least. Lets face it, United are fun to watch right now and this fun and success is making them more and more confident and this has given them a totally different look and vibe on the road especially. Keep it coming Fergie. Groggy’s in paradise.

  10. Moscow is my heaven

    11 September 2011 at 18:48

    Fuck Barca

    • RedDevilEddy

      11 September 2011 at 18:54

      Fuck Barca, Rape City, Child Abuse Arsenal, and make sweet love to United 😉

  11. RedDevilEddy

    11 September 2011 at 18:55

    Everyone who loves me should follow me on Twitter, if I do then I may become more fun and tweet more often! :mrgreen:

    • tonymontanna4united

      11 September 2011 at 20:57

      To wilshere- lick my ballsack :mrgreen: 😆 😆 Your a legend mate.
      Btw do you ever get a response from any of the players you write to. Never used twitter so dont know what the hell its all about, cant really be arsed with any of the facebooks, myspaces etc.

      • RedDevilEddy

        11 September 2011 at 21:46

        Got one from Rooney once, and Michael Owen started tweeting about the Norway disaster after I told him…

        But other than that, it’s just telling Wilshire to lick my hairy nuts and get updates from Rio. 🙁

      • Grognard

        12 September 2011 at 04:21

        If I created Twitter or Facebook I would have named it Moronville.

  12. Jay wire

    11 September 2011 at 20:09

    Why is Barca always mentioned here? We sound like City fans on RoM. Haters. They are good, we’re good. We don’t have to sink low like those City fans, who aren’t convinced of their own team’s pedigree, that they feel insecure and believe bad mouthing United actually builds the status of their own team and brings down our club. Whether we like it or not,this Barcelona team is historic and is being hailed one of football’s best, if not best, teams in history. It’s a phase. It’ll pass. No big deal. Remember the Galacticos? Didn’t they look like they were gonna dominate football for a decade? Yes they dive, cheat etc, but so does every team in Spain, Portugal and Italy. Even in England, Arsenal’s players dive all the time. Lest we forget, we have employed probably the world’s best diver and Oscar pedigree Ronaldo. Paul Scholes is football’s handball import. That is cheating. Barca cheat a lot, we cheat here and there. So what? Madrid cheat a lot. So what? The timing of our hating is bad because whilst everyone else is lauding Barca, we’re busy calling them names etc,and we sound and look like a bunch of sore losers. To make it worse,we’re currently playing some scintillating football and all we do is water it down talking about Barca this and that. Yes they drew 2-2,how does that apply to us blasting Bolton 5 nil? I totally dislike Madrid, but they bloody play well. They dive, they cheat, they influence the referee. But they’re in Spain, United plays in England.

    • RedDevilEddy

      11 September 2011 at 20:18

      Fully agree. Only reason I mention them is so people can shut up about them, I’m tired of them. This is a United blog, and I love Manchester United. Fuck everyone else!

      I’m gonna watch the season review from 1998/99 right now, talk to you guys later…

    • Grognard

      12 September 2011 at 04:22

      It’s called bitterness.

    • Stephen

      12 September 2011 at 12:16

      Agreed, this id getting pathetic… Barca have nothing to do with us, lets move on and hate our true rivals!!!!

  13. Kurt

    11 September 2011 at 20:27

    With Cleverley out, does anyone think that Fergie might move Anderson into the attacking midfielder role and plug Phil Jones in as a defensive midfielder? It seems to me like Jones’ talents could be best utilized in a midfield or fullback position.

    • [OPTI]Madschester United

      11 September 2011 at 20:32

      I don’t think Jones can do the quick passing our CMs are now famous for … Jones is like hammer, when we now use a scalpel in our midfield.

      I will take Carrick over Jones in midfield.

      • tonymontanna4united

        11 September 2011 at 20:51

        Jones isnt capable of doing quick passing, yet carrick is? 😯

        • [OPTI]Madschester United

          12 September 2011 at 03:01

          I would have expected Jones to pass to Rooney after dribbling through Bolton defense…

          Jones won’t work as CM, because he is not trained to pass with accuracy… like carrick.

    • Grognard

      12 September 2011 at 04:25

      I mentioned that yesterday. I agree, it seems the logical choice because of his pace, aggressive nature and his willingness to try one touch passes and chips and now he even scores goals etc. Also, Carrick is not suited for it and neither is Fletcher. And if Pogba shows up, well he is strictly a DMF.

  14. Rimmerstweets

    11 September 2011 at 20:28

    I think it’s time the word Ba*****na was banned from this blog

    Sick of reading about fooking Ba*****na!

    Fook Ba*****na.

    • [OPTI]Madschester United

      11 September 2011 at 20:31


    • RedDevilEddy

      11 September 2011 at 20:32


    • Grognard

      12 September 2011 at 04:26

      Then ban all the Barcelona supporters or should I say royal ass kissers from this blog who brown nose barca blue and drool and offer up their crap only to annoy us the United loving Barca haters. Simple really. 🙂 🙂

  15. [OPTI]Madschester United

    11 September 2011 at 20:49

    Speaking of Bananas… I am soooooo glad we are playing the way we are playing today… I feel so happy and OPTImistic that even Grognard can splurge with compliments about our new-found style of play.

    Has there even been a “fight” on here since Charity Shield game? Are we all singing the same songs and standing shoulder to shoulder… I think so.

    I am OPTI. Optimistic about United. Optimistic about today. Optimistic about tomorrow.

    Glory glory Man United!

    • Rimmerstweets

      11 September 2011 at 20:56

      What’s that gotta do with bananas??! ❓ 😆

      • RedDevilEddy

        11 September 2011 at 21:45

        It makes our penis hard so it looks like a banana, don’t you get it man?! 😆 😆

      • [OPTI]Madschester United

        11 September 2011 at 21:59

        😀 😆 8)

    • Grognard

      12 September 2011 at 04:28

      Life is beautiful and God is a United supporter. 🙂 🙂

  16. Jay wire

    11 September 2011 at 21:25

    @Eddy-I’m not in total agreement about football becoming soft. I think it has become more realistic. I’m of the opinion that back in the so called old days, players got injured in the same way they get today. Only difference is there were loads of unskilled players, who were praised for their “manly” approach. Some were even named Butcher or Killer etc as complimentary titles. Many careers were ended by such reckless players, who had no subtle approach and critically lacked timing and technique defensively.

    So in came the likes of Alessandro Nesta,classy defenders who could defend their goal without slashing the opponents in half. Hargreaves,energetic but clean and fair and highly technical. Much better in my opinion than foul magnets like Gatusso or Keane.

    Where I don’t agree is skill and pace vs power. Especially when you give the example of Ronaldo and Messi as a contrast. Firstly, Ronaldo is probably one of Europe’s most fouled players, despite his obvious strength and built and he probably spends a considerable portion of his time on the ground . Messi on the other hand usually needs at least 3 players to bring him down. He is probably the toughest player to stop in football. His strength is always understated. But the issue here is both have pace, strength and skill and it seems to be the ideal structure for the modern footballer. Zlatan Ibrahimovic,Eto’o,Torres,Rooney,Drogba,Essien,Tevez,Toure. All these players are strong, fast and apply skill.

    While Ronaldo looks and is strong and powerful, so is Messi, Tevez,Aguero, who don’t really look the part. In fact, I think it’s not possible to have a mega successful career without strength and power in this day than in the much glorified old days. Players like Robinho and Neymar,though talented, lack the physicality to really take them to justified levels. It’s not a universal law but I doubt they’d struggle more in the days of Cruyff, or Pele. Where football has become crap, is in theatrics and cheating. Money has really changed the face of the game, but this applies to all aspects of life anyway.

    • RedDevilEddy

      11 September 2011 at 22:13

      I basically agree with everything you said there, but I had some points I wanted to get out about this subject. I think this is a very interesting discussion, as I’ve got some personal experience from this along with what I see on TV. But I’m struggling with an illness right now, and my focus isn’t 100%. I wrote 2 or 3 replies but deleted them both because I felt I left my main point and some things came out wrong… But I’d like to have a discussion with you about this as soon as I get healthy again! 😀

      • Grognard

        12 September 2011 at 04:32

        Money and insurance has also made it impossible for teams and managers to risk athletes who are hurting because of the money involved and the loss of player endorsements if they end up with a serious career threatening injury. Understandable but still, these athletes make millions to entertain the masses and it’s funny how they and all of us were willing to play with pain and risk injury or more when we played for nothing in the school yard. Modern day pussies.

    • Nikos

      12 September 2011 at 15:36

      Explosiveness and endurance (stamina) are the attributes every professional footballer should have. Even if you are the most skilled player in the world , you will find no place in premier league if you have no stamina and explosiveness. Even if you can understand the game better than anyone else you will not be capable of covering the holes or asking for the ball if you can’t run fast for 90 minutes.

      Explosiveness : this means you can put your maximum power in minimum time.

      • [OPTI]Madschester United

        12 September 2011 at 15:51

        “Even if you are the most skilled player in the world , you will find no place in premier league if you have no stamina and explosiveness”


  17. Jay wire

    11 September 2011 at 23:00

    do get well soon bro

  18. Rimmerstweets

    11 September 2011 at 23:10

    Got my tat on!

    Lovely! 😛

    • Grognard

      12 September 2011 at 04:34

      Which one is you?

      • Rimmerstweets

        12 September 2011 at 12:28

        Page 2 – Hover over the images and look for ‘Pool01’

        I’m on holiday in Majorca last year I think.

      • despicable

        12 September 2011 at 12:32

        i think the last one?
        its there in the avatar as well.. 😉

  19. Jay wire

    11 September 2011 at 23:54

    We don’t have to move Jones into midfield. This is real football. You can’t just keep changing a new, young player’s role all the time and expect man of the match performances. Why move him there, when we have Carrick,and even Fletcher? Evans could be ruled out for Chelsea,with Vidic still missing, we need Jones in defence. It’s funny how I always keep defending Carrick. I can’t help it. I know his criticism is not based on realities, meaning realities won’t be accepted as advocacy. But I just find myself being the vigilante as Johnsom once said. But whatever, so here goes…

    It’s becoming crystal clear that Carrick is just not wanted by many. Apparently he is slow. Well, he’s as fast as Sneijder and Fabregas. But this is not the IAAF Grand Prix, this is foot-ball. The use of the ball with feet. Do you know that Obafemi Martins was measured faster on the sprint than Ronaldo? That’s a good cereal box fact but nothing more. It’s their use of the ball that makes the difference. Real Madrid play at a very high tempo yet they have snails like Xabi Alonso who is arguably their second most important player. Xavi is a photo finish faster but he dictates the play for a super fast team. Use of the ball.

    Let’s study two games and then yesterday’s. Blackburn 7-1. Super fast movement, super fast passing. Incisive, mesmerising, free flowing. Two snails were instrumental in that game. Carrick and Berbatov. If that game was boring, then you can only be mildly excited by free falling head first into the Grand Canyon with no parachute. Chelsea, at the Bridge. Fast pace,passing and movement. Carrick came out with a top performance. Even look at the football we were playing in 2007. We were the best attacking team back then. Pace, movement, quick incisive passing. Who was the main guy in midfield? No, not the sometimes injured Scholes. It was Carrick. He was man of the match in the demolition of Roma.

    Saturday, he came on in the 23rd minute. The game I was watching, we were mesmerizing almost throughout and we played at such a high tempo, the normally tough Bolton were completely dazzled. The passing was quick, incisive and attack minded. With a 90% pass rate it’s safe to say Carrick was instrumental in possession. Back passes my foot. He slotted in seamlessly and kept up well with the pace of the game.

    • RedDevilEddy

      12 September 2011 at 00:27

      Yet again, agree with everything!

      But Carrick came on at 6 minutes, just after we scored our goal and Clev was subbed off. 🙂

  20. RedDevilEddy

    12 September 2011 at 00:33

    • Nikos

      12 September 2011 at 01:21

      I say he is not improved but given the proper role, according to his pros. He’s always been great but not used as he should have been.

      Love the man!

    • Craig Mc

      12 September 2011 at 01:59

      Eddi there is a glowing article in todays Guardian newspaper foaming all over the greatness of your man Anderson’s midfield expertise. They talk about the effectiveness of his driving the team forward, and his waspish killer left foot. So go figure!

      2am and my old mate insomnia is an everpresent with me again. I can do a whole lot of work at night, when the rest of the world is sleeping. Such is life in my home 😆

      • Grognard

        12 September 2011 at 04:39

        Eat or drink carbs before you go to bed. It will help you go to sleep. Unless of course if you are diabetic.

      • Stephen

        12 September 2011 at 13:12

        Two bottles of wine tends to get me off to sleep! 😀

        • RedDevilEddy

          13 September 2011 at 21:07


  21. Stephen

    12 September 2011 at 08:58

    Can’t we just enjoy our win without moaning about Barca, jeez you lot sound like City fans. 🙄 🙄
    Rooney again was superb, maybe some of his ctitics will finally admit what a player he really is…
    Jones future England captain, he is Duncan Edwards reincarnate.

  22. Craig Mc

    12 September 2011 at 09:42

    Wow I just watched the game through again, and Chicharito is like the EVER READY BATTERY BUNNIE! He was everywhere, and I have noticed he is really improved in winning the ball back, making the pass and always busy busy busy. He said he is working very hard on improving his game – and it does indeed show! He could have had 4 or 5 goals yesterday with a bit more luck! Go little pea. 😀

    • despicable

      12 September 2011 at 12:34

      Yes but he ran out of gas by 80th minutes.. so hope he gets fitter and can last whole game.

    • [OPTI]Madschester United

      12 September 2011 at 15:31

      so much for working through the night 😆

  23. Jonny

    12 September 2011 at 09:43

    why wouldn:t giggsy be ideal as a short term cleverly replacement??

    oh yeah, because he doesnt get back on defense quickly or consistently enough

    • despicable

      12 September 2011 at 12:36

      ya we need legs, as Tom and Ando covers each other. With giggs it would all in one direction and one substitute for him, as he cant play whole 90 minute at the pace of our recent games.

  24. Craig Mc

    12 September 2011 at 11:00

    One of my salford red mates phoned me last night, and said that radio commentary were reporting that United fans at Bolton were copying Man shitty pogna (turning their backs to field when United scored). I feckin hope not, because I don’t want to see our fans copy anything that shite over at wastelands do. We need to bring in our own creative stand celebrations. I will be raging on the terraces IF our fans around me start ape-ing anything shitty do. Any of you fans on here at the Bolton game? Are radio right, because I didn’t see it on TV?

    • Stephen

      12 September 2011 at 11:36

      I didn’t see that and really can’t see our lads doing such a thing…

    • Rimmerstweets

      12 September 2011 at 12:30

      Not a fooking chance mate……not a fooking chance

    • RedDevilEddy

      12 September 2011 at 12:44

      United fans will never sink so low, have faith in our supporters mate! 😀

  25. [OPTI]Madschester United

    12 September 2011 at 15:43

    Conventional wisdom has it that Manchester United habitually start the season sluggishly and do not hit their straps until after Christmas, in which case heaven help the rest of the Premier League 😀


  26. RedDevilEddy

    12 September 2011 at 16:07

    Anybody else been reading about this program doing the rounds tonight, revealing a couple of footballers who have been dealing with cocaine… Lots of rumours going around, and apparantly there aren’t just 1 or 2, but several “top stars”.

    My heart says Tevez is one of them, but sadly my head says Wazza. We all know he struggled at the start of last season, and he was sent to “fat camp”… May just have well been a rehab for all we know, but I’m praying to God that it’s not a United player. 🙁

    • [OPTI]Madschester United

      12 September 2011 at 16:28

      Didn’t hear anything about it — but it makes sense. Look at crimes of other rich athletes and entertainers: alcohol addiction (poor Besty), gambling (Italy, eastern Europe), (underage) prostitution (france), guns (NFL+Rappers), drugs (NFL, rappers)… when young(ish) people have too much money, they lose track of what is important in life…

      As long as it is not Chicharito, I can bear whatever the news brings…

    • Nikos

      12 September 2011 at 22:20

      It will be so funny if it’s O’Shea. 😛

  27. Eddie Griffin

    12 September 2011 at 17:30

    They fixed it (the part about the player in question being sold in a multi-million pound transfer). Didn’t see it when I read it initially.

  28. RedDevilEddy

    12 September 2011 at 18:07

    I bet it’s David Bentley…

  29. tonymontanna4united

    12 September 2011 at 19:36

    Anyone wants to watch the reserves, with the likes of pogba, macheda, cole etc featuring, heres a link a mate sent me.

  30. RedDevilEddy

    12 September 2011 at 20:37

    Lol, cocain dude was just Gary O’Connor, who the fuck is that?? “Big Premier League star” my ass, that guy isn’t good enough to shave my nuts. 🙄 Fucks sake…

    • tonymontanna4united

      12 September 2011 at 21:04

      Gotta love the british press. Absolutely amazing, massive, earth shattering, life changing news about…… gary o’connor 😆 Pathetic.
      Just goes to show what a complete and utter and farce the FA really are. 2/3 month suspensions for players who have actually tested positive to taking cocaine, and rio gets an 8 month ban for missing a drugs test by a few hours. Their lunacy and utter incompetence is simple staggering.

    • Rimmerstweets

      13 September 2011 at 08:27

      Isn’t good enough to shave my nuts?

      I wish I could find the clip of him scoring for Hibs in August this year against Kilmarnock. Hibs got battered 4-1 but O’Connor scored their only goal, and what a goal it was. A great finish, if you get chance have a look for it then come back and say he isn’t good enough to shave your nuts.

      He might be a dick for tannin the ching and getting caught but the boy can defo play that’s for sure (and don’t come back with ‘it was against fucking Kilmarnock ffs!’…..that doesn’t matter, the finish was quality regardless.

      • RedDevilEddy

        13 September 2011 at 09:17

        I’m not gonna say “it was only Kilmarnock”, I’ve seen some insanely good goals scored against poor opposition, doesn’t make them bad goals. But a good goal doesn’t make a good player, I’ve seen him countless times for Birmingham and he was pure shite, as a defender I would fear Bebe more than I’d fear him!

        And my nutshaver should be a special guy! I bet Ronny could do a good job, and Rooney would shave an “19” right there. Ando would make me dreads! 😆 Chicharito would make a smiling face, Rafael would give me an afro and I bet De Gea could give my dick a beard if he wanted to. No sir, I demand a lot from my nutshavers, and O’Connor is far away from good enough!

        • Rimmerstweets

          13 September 2011 at 09:52

          😆 😆 😆

  31. RedDevilEddy

    12 September 2011 at 20:39

    I’m getting a real man-crush on Phil Jones 😳

    • RedDevilEddy

      12 September 2011 at 21:28

      The lad has never scored a goal, during his two years at Blackburn and the England U-21 he has never got to celebrate a goal.

      Good time to get your first against Chelsea then! 😉

  32. RedDevilEddy

    13 September 2011 at 07:10

    Chicharito’s face for FIFA 12 looks surreally good!

    • johnsom33

      13 September 2011 at 07:17

      Yes it does, the game looks amazing!

  33. johnsom33

    13 September 2011 at 07:44

    Intersting quote from Evra about Rooney…

    “That’s why I want Wazza to keep training hard. After each session he does some finishing practice, which is something he didn’t do a long time ago.”

    I can see the change in rooney, he is obviously taking his football very serious now. The boy has finally grown up!

    • RedDevilEddy

      13 September 2011 at 07:55

      You can see it from his free-kicks, even against Bolton… He may not have scored, but he went close on the one we had.

      Having a good free kick taker makes us much harder to stop, as opponents will fear giving away fouls. Where last season people would probably look at the foul as the best option, now with Rooney we may get past them more easily!

      • jos

        13 September 2011 at 09:05

        Didnt ando take that free kick against Bolton which drew the save of the match from Jussi?

        Did Roooney take any free kicks against Bolton ?

        • RedDevilEddy

          13 September 2011 at 09:19

          Rooney took one in the second half, I think, from just outside the penalty area. Ando’s was a sizzler, really looked like going in. He seems to be taking all our corners and free kicks from the right side of the pitch, he’s really improved in that area.

  34. RedDevilEddy

    13 September 2011 at 14:10

    Fucking addicted to FIFA 12, best game ever!

    I’m falling in love…

    • RMJ

      14 September 2011 at 13:33

      wait when did FIFA 12 come out?

      • RedDevilEddy

        14 September 2011 at 13:46

        Demo out yesterday for Xbox.

        It’s incredibly realistic, only thing making me realise it’s just a game is that City’s stadium actually is full.

  35. RedDevilEddy

    13 September 2011 at 14:24

    By the way, just to add to the Louis Saha debate, this is what Rio said during his Twitter Q&A

    RT @KevinAshford7: @rioferdy5 Who is the most difficult player you have ever marked in a football game #RioQ+A » louis Saha in training!

    • RedDevilEddy

      13 September 2011 at 14:27

      And this is coming from a guy who has played against strikers such as

      Fernando Torres
      Cristiano Ronaldo
      Didier Drogba
      Van Perise
      David Villa
      Gianfraco Zola

      And many other names. Now I’m not saying that Saha is better, or even as good as all of those players, but it does give my opinion of Saha a valid backup. Thanks Rio! 😀

      • [OPTI]Madschester United

        13 September 2011 at 22:06

        Rio played against Zola… ??

        • RedDevilEddy

          13 September 2011 at 23:41

          West Ham, and during his Leeds period I think…

        • RedDevilEddy

          13 September 2011 at 23:43

          Remember that Rio has been playing as a regular in the Premier League since 1996, and have experienced many talents during that time. This will also be his testimonial year, come next summer he’s been at the club for a decade! 😀

    • Stephen

      14 September 2011 at 13:31

      Yes he is better than Sparky and Ruud mate, sorry bro stil can’t get over that one.. 😉

    • Grognard

      14 September 2011 at 18:29

      Pretty hard to mark him on the pitch when he is hiding in the infirmary. 😀 😀

  36. colver

    13 September 2011 at 15:32

    I have to agree with Eddie. Saha was a quality player when fit. Unfortunately because he was rarely fit he was never able to prove how good he was. So it is fair that he did not make either of the top ten lists Grognard produced.

    After all Hargreaves was one of the finest midfielders to grace this club but because he played so few games for us he would not make the top 10 midfielder list.

    Ultimately a player becomes a legend for a club because he has LONGEVITY as well as QUALITY. Saha because of his injury problems never had that longevity. Same with Hargreaves.

  37. Moscow is my heaven

    13 September 2011 at 21:47


    HAHA in your FACE Barca fuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyou

    😈 😈 😈 😈 😈

    • [OPTI]Madschester United

      13 September 2011 at 21:50

      there you go again… talking about Bananas…. 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄

    • RedDevilEddy

      13 September 2011 at 21:58


      Only bananas who should be proud of today is that fella for Dortmund who equalised against Arsenal. Nice goal!

      • [OPTI]Madschester United

        13 September 2011 at 22:03

        that was nice… looked mishit, but it swerved nicely into top corner… sweet swell shot!

        Arsenal did look better too, but we would still beat them 3-1 or 4-1, methinks. 😀

  38. Nikos

    13 September 2011 at 22:43

    I’m empty… want a Manchester match to fill me up. I feel tired because I ‘ve seen a game and it’s not a United one. Give me my dope, my sweet narcosis.

  39. Craig Mc

    13 September 2011 at 23:46

    Sooooooo – Barca 2 – Inter 2, somebody tell me please, Barca got their goals by either penalty or free kicks, or rolling all over the place to get advantage – even FOUL play tactics – confirm please 😆 😆

    • Nikos

      14 September 2011 at 00:25

      It was AC Milan. Villa scored a nice goal (free kick). Thiago Silva headed a corner kick.

      The other two goals : Pato’s run created an ultrasound///Messi annihilated so as to pass the ball to Pedro who was completely free in the 6 yard box

  40. Nikos

    14 September 2011 at 00:36

    I am a Pato admirer and this goal makes me a greater admirer of him.
    Love this guy and would like to see him in a United shirt.

    (a fit an healthy Kaka would also be good 🙂 but those days probably will never come back for him … )

    Pato is now the second footballer I have ever watched who gave a pass to himself. Anderson is the first one 🙂

    • RedDevilEddy

      14 September 2011 at 01:18

      Andooooooo!!! :mrgreen:

    • 3A

      14 September 2011 at 12:22

      There is Redondo while playing for Real Madrid against Man Utd…

      • Nikos

        14 September 2011 at 16:19

        I’m talking about throwing the ball past TWO lines, not just one defender.

    • Grognard

      14 September 2011 at 18:25

      Problem is he has rarely been healthy for an entire year and like Walcott shows incredible promise in one big game and is asleep for the next ten. Physically he has great talent but I do not like his makeup. Just seems soft and uncommitted.

  41. colver

    14 September 2011 at 02:11

    Everyone disregard entirely the Barcelona result. They are the absolute masters of peaking late in the competition. They are always indifferent in the group stages. The only way they won’t win it this year is if they get a tough draw in the second round. And ideally some other team knocks them out because while we have improved this season I still don’t see any possible way we could beat Barcelona in the knock out stages. We simply do not have the pressing game or the defensive discipline.

    • [OPTI]Madschester United

      14 September 2011 at 02:44

      Banana… banana… banana… enough about Bananas…. OK! 8)

    • johnsom33

      14 September 2011 at 04:59

      I agree with you on the disregard the barca resultm but I disagree that we cant compete with Barca. I think we can, the speed this team has compared to last season is bordering on night and day. I have a really good feeling about this season, we have rediscovered our mojo.

      • Grognard

        14 September 2011 at 18:20

        It’s not just about players and speed mate. The biggest thing that has to change for us to beat Barca is Fergie’s approach, squad selection but most of all, tactics. The tactics were just awful in the last two finals we played them in. It’s as if he learned nothing from the past. Speed is nice for a counter attack but in order to counter attack you must win the ball and then keep it. That requires a pressing defense that does not give Barca’s midfield time on the ball and the entire center of the park to play keep away with. You could have Brazil 70 or Holland or Germany 74 as teams and they would lose to them if they had played using the useless tactics that Fergie employed in those games. Teams with inferior talent to us have beaten Barca but they had better tactics and some luck on their side. You also need some luck because unfortunately, the motherfuckers are that damned good and have the refs in their pocket too.

    • Grognard

      14 September 2011 at 18:23

      I agree. Every year they coast for the first three or four matches and look beatable but when they get into the knockout rounds, they are positively lethal and that’s when the diva tactics and diving really begins.

  42. [OPTI]Madschester United

    14 September 2011 at 02:46

    sooooooooo ready for some more Manchester orgasmic footy…

    If we win 0 – 3+, I will go ape-shit… surely we cannot continue in our rich vein of form… forever? Or can we…

  43. johnsom33

    14 September 2011 at 05:22

    I was very impressed with Dortmund, if they took only a few of their chances they could have won this game quite handily. Goetze was also impressive, I will be watching his career very closely over the next few years top top player.

    Kagawa was also very impressive to me, the last time I saw him was right before he broke his leg with Japan. He really is a quality player, comparable to Keisuke Honda in regards to ability. I wouldnt mind seeing any of the three mentioned at OT.

  44. RedDevilEddy

    14 September 2011 at 08:46


    Last time United started theuir Champions League campaign in Portugal we won the Europaen Cup. That was 2007, and we beat Sporting by one goal to nil with Ronaldo notching the winner.

    United have a very strong connection to Porugese opposition. Despite us being knocked out against Porto and Benfica in 2004 and 2005, every other season we have faced a team from Portugal we have gotten to AT LEAST the semi finals of the Champions League. Porto in 1997 and 2009, Sporting in 2008, Benfica in 2007 and 1968, and Boavista in 2002.

    United have not scored more than one goal in any of their 5 last visits to Portugal. 3 of them have been won. No draws. In fact, we have scored the first goal in all of those 5 games. Fortune and Scholes gave us the lead in 2004 and 2005 respectivly, where Porto and Benfica came back to win 2-1. In our last three games, Ronaldo has scored the winners against Sporting and Porto, while Saha got our winner against Benfica.

    Last time we faced Benfica was also the last time United scored three headers in one game. Saha, Giggs and Vidic the scorers.

    On our last visists to Portugal there have been a lot of focus on players who are visiting their former clubs. Ando had played for Porto, and Nani for Sporting. But we have no connection to Benfica at all, player wise.

    United have kept a clean sheet for their first game in Europe every season since 2006, and the last time we conceded a goal on our first game away from home in the Champions League was against Lyon in 2004.

    Fuck Banana! No seriosly, any got girls on here who wanna fuck my banana? 8) I’m awesome…

  45. RedDevilEddy

    14 September 2011 at 08:50

    I read this headline and smiled

    Jesus Expecting Tight Competition

    Well why wouldn’t he? The way Rooney is playing these days it’s obvious he’s the son of God, and his return from the dead has been even greater than that of Jesus! :mrgreen:

    • Craig Mc

      14 September 2011 at 14:32

      Eddi mi man that’s offensive! Rooney is more equivelent to the devil than he will ever be to the true Son of GOd. I am sure Chicharito, a devoted christian who gets on his knees to pray, will be mortified if he reads that comment, as will Fergie – a devoted Roman Catholic! 🙁

      • Grognard

        14 September 2011 at 18:12

        I wonder what Cantona the true God thinks of all this?

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