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United’s kids shrug off Spurs 3-0

United put on a polished display with a young squad to defeat Spurs 3-0 at Old Trafford.

That was a lot of fun wasn’t it? How do we not get even more excited about the season ahead after a pretty entertaining and effective display by the youngsters? Without getting too carried away since this is after all, only the second game of the season, here are a couple of quick takeaways from today’s game:

Our defense

Not too shabby considering we were missing our first choice backline (minus Evra). This was supposed to be our Achilles heel what we a young error-prone goalie behind an inexperienced defensive pairing. Boy, did Jones and company go to work. Our 19 yr old summer arrival from Blackburn played like a true veteran reading the game and coming up with timely tackles and interceptions. He was my favorite signing of the summer and I felt somewhat vindicated (simply because Young was doing so well and we hadn’t seen that much of Jones prior to today’s game) with the shift he put in today. This surely has to signal the beginning of the end for Rio. The thought of seeing Jones and Vidic together in the backline for the next few seasons is a mouthwatering prospect. With all that said, both Smalling and Evans put in admirable displays as well with neither one looking out of place against top level opposition.

The goalie

He looked more assured than he had been in prior games. Then again, Tottenham didn’t exactly pose the kind of aerial assault that West Brom adopted last weekend. I was surprised they didn’t attempt to drop more crosses into the box and force De Gea to make the decision on whether or not to come out and punch the ball and risk being upending again by some of the opposition. Facing a forward in Defoe’s stature probably helped limit the number of crosses that he would have to face all night. While he looked better than before, it remains to be seen how he’ll fare going against the likes of a Kevin Davies, Kenwyne Jones or Didier Drogba. On a far more positive note, his distribution was accurate and confident. For the most part, he handled backpasses from his defenders with relative ease and displayed a cool head even when a player in white would try to close him down rapidly. He does look like he has a very calm head on his shoulders, which will surely serve him well once he fills out a little more and gets acclimated to the physicality of the English game.

Welbeck & Berbatov

Sure, he looked a little out of sorts in the first 45. But his contribution in the second half was simply amazing and demonstrated the kind of potential that compelled Ferguson to start him ahead of Berbatov for the 3rd consecutive game. A well taken header off a pinpoint cross from the equally impressive Cleverley opened up the scoring for us. He then helped finish a very pretty move with a delicate backheel onto an onrushing Anderson to curl into the corner and effectively end the match as a contest. His pace and constant movement will surely see him get the kind of minutes that he craved after some blistering displays on loan at Sunderland last season.

In contrast, poor Berbatov continues to bide his time on the bench. This after PSG announced that they made an inquiry for the Bulgarian only to be turned down by United. As great of an attitude that Berba has taken to this whole situation, surely he too must feel that a run of Carling Cup games is not the kind of competition he stayed at United for. What must surely have felt like the ultimate insult was to not even get a run out against his former club on a day when the only other forward on the bench with him was one who wasn’t even slated for full recovery until later this month. And even then, the said player (Chicharito) was given some minutes out on the field while last season’s top scorer languished on the bench. How long can Berba stay happy as well as be effective, without getting some quality game time?

 

Conclusion

Undoubtedly, there were probably another 20 or so positives (Rooney’s performance, Anderson’s continued growth, Young’s impressive start to the season) that we could have come away with after tonight’s entertaining performance. United played in a manner that was so fun to watch that it almost felt like reconnecting with an old friend whom we haven’t seen in years. The United style of play looks to be enjoying a revival brought about by the youthfulness of this season’s squad. It’s back and hopefully, here to stay.

 

Shaun

 

113 Comments

113 Comments

  1. Chicharito

    August 23, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Phil Jones is worth every friggin penny we paid, well done Fergie 😛

    • tonymontanna4united

      August 23, 2011 at 8:00 pm

      Some people just seem like they were born to play for this club, and jones certainly looks like one of those players from what ive seen.
      Fantastic talent, who im sure along with smalling, will go on to form a partnership for club and country for the next decade.
      On that note, why is it us english seem to produce top class defenders on such a regular basis (kyle walker, leighton baines, smalling, jones, rio, terry, a cole currently to go alongside the likes of pally, bruce, adams, campbell etc) and yet apart from the odd exception, produce such shite in every other position?
      Bloody annoying really.

      • [OPTI]Madschester United

        August 23, 2011 at 9:20 pm

        probably because competition in the league (EPL) in creative position is much greater with all the imported players from the Continent+South America.

      • gator

        August 25, 2011 at 10:15 pm

        same thing happens in the US we have goalkeepers for days at the top level but where is the rest of the team? 🙄

  2. Shera

    August 23, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Well I did tell you about Anderson and his fantastic potential only to be shot down by groggy and the doom-bringing sheep.

    He will fly this season just wait and see.

    By the way top article Shaun, keep it up!

    • tonymontanna4united

      August 23, 2011 at 8:04 pm

      Well you have to say, any criticism directed at him was hardly undeserving was it.
      That being said, i know he had his supporters who kept the faith, so fair play to them, i just wasnt convinced, but hes certainly had an impressive start to the season. Now the key is for him to consistnetly perform like he has the first 3 games of this season.
      If he does that not only will be i be happy for ando, but ill also give a big pat on the back to his supporters, who have stuck by him through thick and thin to their credit.

  3. Craig Mc

    August 23, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    @Stephen – mate were you there last night? The terraces were feckin rocking! Ground filled with many local Mancs – hence the atmosphere, and that’s why I like weekday games – they are like the CL games at OT with all the locals snatching up the tickets of those United fans who are not able to travel midweek. I got into a right barney with Rooney fans standing around my mates and I, because I can’t stand the scouse gits continual barracking of Nani. I was shouting to Rooney – you big mouthed scouse twat, you should look at how many times your passes didn’t reach their target, and how many times you have a poor first touch and the tmes you are caught in possession. When he put the Nani’s great cross into the gods in the stands, I pissed myself laughing when the fans were singing WTF hell was that! I was shouting “hey Rooney why didn’t you take your own advice to Nani and USE YOUR HEAD!” In the end all the Rooney fans around me started to find my Rooney/Nani banter funny, and were saying hey Nani fan – this is pure entertainment terrace gold. We’re enjoying it – come stand by us again for more games – haha! That’s fandom eh? Taht’s MANCDOM – we have our fights and differences, but we still find the humour in the end! I told you that Anderson was my choice for this season and I had a feeling he was going to come good because I backed him in my pools team! Aaaagh the Portugeezers, cheeky bleeders. Come on you reds, come on Nani and Anderson – don’t let me down boys I want to win sosome dosh. How U doing Stephen? Talk to you again sometime! Same with you Phoenix mi man!

    • tonymontanna4united

      August 23, 2011 at 8:18 pm

      You’d know better mate, being there and all, but have to say the atmosphere seemed shite from what i saw of the game on the box. The atmosphere for some games can be fucking electric, and then others its just so shit your left to look like a prize twat because you get up and have a sing song or 2.
      I dont know mate, i havent been to OT since may 2009, as i made a vow i would no longer put money into united whilst the leeches were in charge. Saying that i attended the recent community shield game (a mates ticket going spare) and the atmosphere was top class. We outsung the bitters from the 1st minute to the last, great game, and a great atmosphere.
      Have to say, i always found away games most enjoyable, where you got the more hardcore united fans amongst you. Remember the trips to places like anfield, leeds, chelsea, arsenal etc and they were among the best games ive seen, purely because the place was so mental.
      I do miss the games at OT tbh, even if i didnt find the experience as good as during away games, but ive made a promise and i intend to stick to it.
      Might make the trip to an away game or 2 if a tickets going spare, but unless im wrong, doesnt all the ticket income go solely towards the home side, in which case the glazers dont touch a penny of it. As id hate to think if i ever went i was still financing a regime i hate.
      Anyway mate, glad you enjoyed it. The football last night was just top class, and that was watching it on the box. Must have been fucking brilliant watching it all in the flesh, as i know the community shield game was for me.
      PS Good to see you back mate. Its good to have the likes of grog and yourself back again.

      • Craig Mc

        August 23, 2011 at 9:20 pm

        I hear ya Tony. You know something mate – the Stretford enders (the hardcore fans) do bring atmosphere – but for some reason I think the acoustics in some areas of the ground are like dreadful. I was thinking of writing to Fergie to ask for huge megaphones in the stretty end so that all the chanting etc can be heard. For some reason at OT the part of tghe arena where the opposing fans are seems to have better audio than the rest of the arena. Makes me wonder if this is because they are right next to MUTV or something? I agree with you about outsinging the City pity at Wembley – really glad you enjoyed your day mate!

        • Grognard

          August 24, 2011 at 1:20 am

          Overjoyed to see you back mate. Now things can get cooking again. You were missed. 🙂 🙂

        • Craig Mc

          August 24, 2011 at 5:20 am

          Hey Groggy – what’s cooking mate? Yeah we must get a bit of resurrection of banter going again – from our own terraces on the red rants forum! I’ve been wondering lately, are Man United the trendsetters for all others in football? I remember we started the whole wives and kids things in bringing them onto the field to celebrate at end of season, Also when we paraded silverware. Then I noticed a week or so later Chelsea followed our lead, and now everybody is doing it. I wonder if we were the 1st to parade our trophies abroad as we did this year – and allowed our fans in Asia ans USA etc to be photographed with said silverware. Then City and Chelsea followed our lead and did the same. Today PL managers are all talking about BLOODING their kids. All eyes on OT eh? Ain’t these teams and managers got any original thoughts of their own. Too many wannabee monkey’s in football, pearing over the OT fences from outside the ground, in order to see what we are doing so they can copy us!

        • Grognard

          August 24, 2011 at 5:57 pm

          A classy organization is always copied mate. But remember, often imitated but never duplicated.

      • [OPTI]Madschester United

        August 23, 2011 at 9:23 pm

        My feed (SkySports1) was sublime and I got the perception that the ground was rocking… loud and proud.

  4. Craig Mc

    August 23, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    @Shaun – agree with most of your points mate – keep the good stuff coming, because you will have excellent things to write about this season. Me – the missus has let me off the leash again, so I will be hitting the terraces again – roaring for Nani, Anderson and the rest of the reds.

  5. RedDevilEddy

    August 23, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    I’m so fucking buzzing these days, it’s amazing really… You guys have no idea how proud I am! 🙂 Go on Ando, Ash and Tom, I have more faith in you than I have in God these days!

    • Craig Mc

      August 23, 2011 at 9:25 pm

      Errrr you say ‘go on’ Ando, Ash and Tom – you little weesil Eddie mi man, what about mentioning ‘go on’ lil man? 👿 👿 👿 of you Eddi forgetting Lil man Nani 😆 😆 .

      • RedDevilEddy

        August 23, 2011 at 9:46 pm

        You didn’t mention me in your Ando praise, so no Nani for you mate! 😆 😆 Nono, I keeeeeeed! But seriously mate, if I was going to praise everyone I wish to do well at United I would have to mention the whole squad and even some reserve-team players such as Pogba. I gotta say that Young, Cleverley and Anderson are my favorite players at United, with Wazza, Chicharito and Nani coming close… Also got a real soft spot for Fabio as well! 🙂 I love our team mate, I really do. From De Gea and Evra and Lindegaard and Pogba, I love every player who has a number on the back of the amazing, wonderful Manchester United kit(which I must say really is something special, honestly the best United kit I’ve seen during my time!) 😀

        • Craig Mc

          August 23, 2011 at 10:20 pm

          😆 😆 😆 – touche, but Go on Eddi – how’s that mate. My favourite players at OT, No1 – NANI/CHICHARITO jointly. No2 – Cleverley and Rafael. No3 – Lindegaaaard, who I believe in totally. No.4 – altho he should be joint No1 with Nani & Chicha is Jones, only reason he isn’t, is because he still looks for the back pass to our GK more often than he should, instead of trying to find a way to go forward. With De Gea in goal, and opposing teams raining down on him, the defenders need to protect him by avoiding those back passes to him, just my opinion. I quite love Park when he is on form too, and especially since he seems to have gotten rid of falling on his arse all the time, and adding more goals to his game as a consequence. Welbeck still has to convince me – one swallow a summer doth not make! I believe players who can perform and score IN AWAY GAMES, and keep up the same performances away as they can at home – should be our 1stchoice players. I always look at how they perform away from home – because great players don’t drop their performances in away games, but are consistent – tra la la la la la la 😆 .

          Number zero zero zero – naught naught naught to me is Rooney, because his fucking attitude STINKS towards other players in the team and esp to Nani. 😆 😆

        • RedDevilEddy

          August 23, 2011 at 11:08 pm

          How’s all this about some love in?! :mrgreen: Bro, I’ve really missed you on here. For a while it looked like we were gonna lose you, Grog, Johnsom and Owen permanently, but thankfully you are all back. You don’t know how happy that makes me, as this blog is to me what a local pub in Manchester would be! 😀 As long as I’m stuck in cold, northiieee Norway, this is the only place I get to talk to you guys which I know about the one thing we all love. So stay on here more often, I’ll hunt down NANI if you don’t! 😆 😆 😆

          How’s your family doing by the way? Your daughter growing up well, she must be with a dad like you! 🙂

        • Craig Mc

          August 24, 2011 at 5:03 am

          Family is good, thanks Eddi. If you hunt Nani down, then I will have to do some damage to your beloved mate Anderson – and I would hurt myself there, because I have chosen him with Nani to come up with the goods in my football sweep – and I want to win the dosh Eddi 😆 , Phil Jones was saying that the United fans were totally fantastic to him in his debut OT game against spurs. He said they were unbelievable, but he knew they would be. Now he is United til he dies – well until the Real.s the barcas or the man pity’s of the world come up with multi millions of pounds in wages to make him one of their rich bitches. 😀

    • Moscow is my heaven

      August 23, 2011 at 9:38 pm

      Craig’s got a point Eddy 🙂

  6. [OPTI]Madschester United

    August 23, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Anyone else want another United right about now… I am addicted to this good stuff… absolutely addicted… need my fix.

    • Craig Mc

      August 23, 2011 at 9:28 pm

      😆 😆 😆 – you keep getting your United fix Opti – and I hope the reds keep topping it up for you every game!

    • RedDevilEddy

      August 23, 2011 at 9:48 pm

      The drug that is Manchester United have probably caused more death’s than any other during the last 25 years, all the drama and the late goals and the addiction which makes people like us fucking come in our pants and get orgasms sitting still on a chair…. A people say football is only a sport?! PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEEEASE! :mrgreen:

  7. RedDevilEddy

    August 23, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Anderson has scored 5 goals during his last 4 games at Old Trafford, and ever since the Shalke game stood for 38% of the goals scored at our home ground.

    Now just score against the Arse on Sunday and people may realise you can shoot! 😆

    • 20LEgend

      August 23, 2011 at 10:40 pm

      BOOOM

  8. RedDevilEddy

    August 23, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    Taaaaake me hooooome!
    United roooooooad!
    To the plaaaaaaaaaaaaace!
    I beloooooooooooooooooooong!
    To Old Trafford, to see Uniteeeed!
    Take me hoooome!
    United rooooooooaaaaaad!
    Lalala, Manchester, Lalala, Manchester :mrgreen:

  9. Lars

    August 24, 2011 at 12:55 am

    Speaking of our United kids, de Laet scored for Norwich!!!

  10. Stephen

    August 24, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Superb game performance a total joy bto watch. I feel like there is a new buzz around the club, it reminds me of when we beat Galatasaray in 04, 4 nil, great buzz around the place. City have the money but it can’t but team spirit!

    • ash is the man

      August 24, 2011 at 11:17 am

      well said. city are a team build on sand, they buy quality but not class and only want every single player because they are greedy. United on the other hand dont just buy anyone they only buy players who saf believes have enough DESIRE and attitude to play. I sense beautiful times ahead for this club. Once that first wave reaches the tide cities empire will crumble and wash away hahaha :mrgreen:

  11. Owen

    August 24, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Forward line Dzeko supported by Nasri, Silva and Aguero, that looks formidable (especially when supported by the likes of Toure and De Jong in defensive midfield roles).This team can even Challenge Barca in Europe.I am jealous of City a lot these days and even i fear them too.

    • Grognard

      August 24, 2011 at 6:40 pm

      This isn’t fantasy football mate, this is the EPL and trust me, their bubble will burst at some point because Mancini has created an atmosphere and situation where too many egos are fighting for too few places and dissension and disharmony will set in as soon as they lose a few games and as soon as some of their stars realize that they are not going to be starters. A bunch of individuals playing for themselves does not make a team, no matter how good they are on paper.

    • Don

      August 24, 2011 at 7:44 pm

      Good players don’t a good team make! If i look at the collection of players Citeh have..yes it can look intimidating but until I see a cohesive, united unit U really am not all that afraid…players on big salaries with a coach not all players fully believe in is not quite the recipe for success. I really don’t think Mancini can take them to a league title…i guess time will tell but I think when you have that many good players who don’t all get to play and they don’t all buy into the team concept it will be very difficult over the course of a season to be successful…

      • tonymontanna4united

        August 24, 2011 at 8:26 pm

        Gotta agree with grog and don here, when was anything won based on the team on a piece of paper. Yes city look like a mighty impressive outfit, they have some real quality in that team, but what they lack is unity, a real feeling for the team they play for, a lack of experience and a mug of a manager i honestly do not rate at all.
        Look back to us last season and our games against them. Arguably you could say on paper their team was far better than a side containing a 37 year old giggs, inconsistent out of sorts rooney, and a kid in smalling having to take up a mans role.
        But what you saw, and what was the main difference between the 2 sides, was the real unity you saw in the united team, the never say die attitude, and the attacking philosophy to outscore your opponents, all of which are attributes this city team currently lack.
        And look what happened, we beat them 2-1 in a game they never looked like winning. And how many times in the weeks and months ahead did that never say die attitude, attacking philosophy and team unity mean we kept chasing and going for the win, in games where we just never looked like we’d get anything from.
        Blackpool for example, west ham, chelski, bolton with a last minute berba goal etc.
        A real team unity, a never say die attitude, and an attacking philosophy was what got us the points in all those games, when for a long time we deserved none. And that my friend is the difference between ourselves and city, and why i predicted weeks ago we would win the league ahead of shitty and chelski.
        Simply because chelski are too old, and shitty are just not a team.
        When it comes down to it, when they are 2-0 down at swansea on a pissing down tuesday night, we’ll see who comes up trumps for them. If theyre 0-0 in the last minute, we’ll see if anyone gets them that goal that gives them the 3 points instead of 1.
        When i look at them i just dont see it. Too many disruptive, overated players, who care not one iota for city or the cause, who only trot out each week wearing the sky blue kit because they get their £200k pay packet each week. With no loyalty, no fight, no love for anything but their money.
        Led by a mug like mancini who has no discipline, which leads to in house fighting between his own players, and leads to this lack of unity. A man who is so cautious, he often goes out with 3 out and out DMs in an attempt to win a match.
        A man who against united in the community shield, preferred to bring on barry than a CF, as he was content with holding on for the draw.
        A man who builds a team made of players like balotelli, dzeko, and silva, who on the day of their arrival, are already talking about leaving the club within the next 2 years.
        Generally just a twat as far as im concerned, who has had £400m to play with the last 2 years, and still persists with the likes of barry, clichy, milner and other over rated crappers.
        So no owen, ive been very pessimistic with united over the years, but when it comes to city, i can say without a moments hesitation, they dont have a bloody chance of winning this league title. And arrogant as that sounds, i firmly believe that.

  12. Grognard

    August 24, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    A TALE OF ONE CITY

    Well Man City got their man again. Nasri has left the Gooners and now swim with the human refuse known to us as Man Shitty. And it still won’t make a hill of beans difference because we will still win the league.

    The really sad and pathetic thing about Shitty is that I wouldn’t even manage my club like that in Football Manager 11. I mean how many superstars do you need and how many top caliber players must rot on the bench before their owners and manager feel secure of winning?

    One thing the owners and Mancini haven’t figured out yet is that it takes a lot more than just buying great players to create a winner that will maintain it’s momentum and discipline as well as form for a whole season and beyond. Team unity, a strong reserve force, egos under control, selflessness, and above all, team unity derived from dedication, a tactical system that works and the stability only a great manager can bring, which guarantees commitment and success.

    The kind of players City are buying can be categorized simply as mercenaries. That is, they select the team they want to play for for one reason and one reason only, money and if the team looks good on paper they choose it because they believe trophies will follow. This just strengthens a point I made months ago when I referred to footballers as bottom feeders in the evolutionary food chain. Basically, not the brightest bulbs on the planet. In fact I would go as far as to say that footballers are the stupidest athletes on the face of the earth. I used to think it was hockey players but they show way more satisfaction and loyalty to their clubs and winning and being paid lots of money is nice but usually not the most important factor in them signing with a team.

    An education is a terrible thing to waste but lets face it, most footballers come from countries and situations where a higher education is just a pipe dream. Many grow up in shanty town slums and kick a can around in their youth. This fact makes me even madder and more confused that when opportunity and money is introduced to them, it turns them into Hip Hop dancing, Ferrari buying, model chasing greedy motherfuckers who not only want their cake, but they want to eat it all in one sitting too.

    Samir Nasri is just the latest of a long list of greedy. selfish and totally misdirected players who leaves a situation where now he is one of only a few top dogs to join a group where after a few weeks of introduction, he will get lost in the crowd and will probably spend half his games on the bench while Mancini tries to figure out how to best use him and who he will bench in order for him to play. Personally I would never sit Toure, Silva or Aguero down for him. And even Johnson, Tevez and a few others would get precedence if I were managing.

    Consider me greedy and selfish but why would I want to go to a team that will make me sit on the bench too often and even if they win some hardware, if I have not been a major player playing a major role, why would I even care? That kind of team thinking is for fringe players and career bench warmers, not superstar players who belong in the starting eleven. Problem is, I am not so sure Nasri belongs in City’s starting eleven every game out. And so if I were him, why in God’s name would I leave Arsenal to join a club where I become just another brick in the wall? Greedy self absorbed idiocy from yet another uneducated tramp who wears cleats and can kick the ball around.

    This final message is for Fergie. Boss, if you are out there, please, do not sign Sneijder. He is a great player and would be a starter but the fact is he is nothing but a mercenary too. Besides, I agree with Teddy Sheringham when he recently said that we do not need Sneijder because Fergie has already found Scholes replacement. One Tom Cleverely. A young lad that is proud to be a United player. A young player who would never think of jumping ship for greedy gains because he knows what a true winner is like and he knows that his future is here with a club that exudes class, pedigree and stability without having to equal the spending power of a third world nation in order to flex it’s muscles. We do not need to foolishly splash money around like there is no tomorrow and the last thing we need to be recruiting is soldiers of fortune who are committed to padding their wallets and egos, not their CV and trophy cases.

    I hope City enjoy their short ride in our world of success. And like all teams that are bought by billionaires who are bored and need a short term hobby for their fix, the time will eventually run out on City and their crash will be loud and heard throughout the world. It will take time but it will happen because this kind of lunatic spending cannot go on indefinitely. Despite the Glazer’s presence, at least United have a manager who actually knows how to build and sustain a winner, without falling prey to greedy and selfish players constantly bickering and unsettling a team over their need to star and be seen. City is a group of individuals masquerading as a team. United is a group of selfless individuals “UNITED” and playing as a team. An to Mr. Mancini and Mr Nasri, thus endeth the lesson.

    • dgame

      August 24, 2011 at 6:46 pm

      Well said Groggy, you couldn’t have said it any better.

    • Owen

      August 24, 2011 at 6:48 pm

      Grog,you are assuming they won’t gel.But suppose some how Mancini makes them work in a team.If that happens,then don’t you think,they are capable of not winning EPL easily but even can become main challenger of Barcelona in Europe.

      I don’t know much about Mancini but give that squad to Fergie and United will win everything.

      • Grognard

        August 24, 2011 at 7:00 pm

        Don’t get me wrong, there is enough talent there and Mancini is competent enough to produce a good team capable of challenging. But their selfish ego’s will eventually get in the way and the club will implode from within. It is impossible to keep everyone happy when a dozen top players are constantly sitting on the bench and when your front line possesses so many primadonas that cohabitation may be a difficult thing to find.

        Right now I can see Tevez being a cancer that will grow. Nasri will be too because I have nowhere to play him up front. Silva, Aguero are better than him and Toure is a force in the middle as an attacking midfielder surprisingly. His size and presence is hard to defend against and so where do I place Nasri? Yes I could move Toure back to DMF but is that not a mistake based on how well the team and he have played since he moved forward? Would I sit Dzeko or Tevez down and move Aguero to striker thus freeing up LAM or RAM spot for Nasri? I wouldn’t. Nope, Nasri will get caught in a massive player rotation which will make everyone unhappy and positively volatile once the club goes through a bad run of games.

        Unite has depth too but the starting eleven are pretty well determined and so our rotation is done to give players a rest and to introduce a different feel or vibe during a game. Fergie doesn’t have as great a problem trying to keep everyone happy because our players are happy and proud to be part of this club’s heritage and tradition. Last time I heard, City has no heritage or tradition. OOPS! Sorry they do have a heritage and tradition of losing and being doormats, not to mention our bitches since the beginning.

        • Don

          August 24, 2011 at 7:54 pm

          I think the city spending really has not been very planful..Mancini claims he wants 2 world class players at every position (a la Jose’s Chelsea) but to do that you have to have all the players buying into the team project. I don’t see the likes of Balotelli, Tevez and even Aguero seeing extended pine time and not throwing a fit…also the Silva/Nasri conundrum..unless Milner, Barry, De Jong and Johnson essentially afre all on the bench…

    • RedDevilEddy

      August 24, 2011 at 7:48 pm

      That must be the best thing I’ve ever read you write mate. 😀 I feel you’ve been a little taken by my raving this summer, because a lot of what I’ve said is in your comment. Thank God I finally got to you! I was growing splitzers in my fingers 😆 😆

      • tonymontanna4united

        August 24, 2011 at 8:27 pm

        Yeah have to say grog, fucking awesome article there mate. Agree with every word.

        • Grognard

          August 24, 2011 at 10:25 pm

          Thanks mate. Yes, City certainly will make things interesting but at the end I think we will be laughing and they will ONCE AGAIN be crying in their soup. Bottom line is you cannot buy class and pedigree. You earn it over time.

    • 20LEgend

      August 24, 2011 at 10:32 pm

      Well said Grog. Titles are not won on paper. Titles are won through character, team-work, cohesion and spirit. City have a great team on paper, but they lack the spirit of Champions.

      Agree fully regarding Nasri. Yaya is perhaps City’s most important player, tactically. Silva is coming into his own. Aguerro is better than Nasri and must start. Dzeko will also start as the lone man upfront. That leaves one position for Nasri, and he is going to have to battle for it with Milner and AJ. Won’t be easy.

    • Nikos

      August 25, 2011 at 10:22 am

      OK gorggy…agree in many points but being the devil’s lawyer I would have to say ;

      You still like Ronaldo? The uglyfucker who looks like a gay but has fucked every little chick that is paid over 2000poumds/night? The cunt that -like barca players- dives even when nobody touches him? The cunt that his main phrases are “give me the ball” and “I want a new contract or else I’ll go to Madrid”…

      Another point. How is being a fringe player and a local lad who wins trophies loyalty whilst being a fringe player

      • Grognard

        August 25, 2011 at 7:46 pm

        How quickly we forget. Man are you an unappreciative sod. Seriously mate, why should I hate a superstar that gave six exceptional years to our side and helped us win everything and be kings of the world? Why would I be so bitter and ungrateful? Hell, even the King spent a shorter time with us and his retirement came well before it should have but nobody was upset with him when he just left us out in the cold.

        And as for his look and desire to screw every woman in town, well you being Greek should know all about that kind of mentality. My father was the template Ronaldo used when it comes to pursuing women. Nothing wrong with it and it beats being gay. Ronaldo is a legend mate, a United legend. He has moved on but as much as that was upsetting and disappointing, I cannot and will not forget what he meant to this club and what he gave to us.

        • Nikos

          August 25, 2011 at 9:27 pm

          whilst being a fringe player and not a local lad who erans money and maybe wins some trophies is greediness.

          This makes no sense other than emotional sense. What you like and makes you happy isn’t always logical and fair.

          Some people work in a “familly team” (it’s glazers for fuck sake) and go for glory.Some others work in a “greedy tam” and go for feeding the family and their egos with money and less glory.

          WHO CARES?JUST WATCH THE GAME. GOOD FOOTBALL IS GOOD FOOTBALL.

          Just being the devil’s lawyer…

          P.S. : They will win trophies and if they don’t it’s just Mancini’s 0-0 way (or should I say rafa’s way)… If fergie managed such great talents he would have won everything. Let me remind you that he was a big adebayor admirer but look at what mancini did to him… He made him look useless while he is really great.

        • Nikos

          August 25, 2011 at 9:32 pm

          So, it’s bad for Nasri to go to Man City but it’s good for Ronaldo to go to Real for the same FCKN reasons…

          By the way, I think he is a great talent, a cheating diver and behaves like a cunt on and off the field. Greediness is all over his face. That’s my opinion about him.

          He is the one who buys everything and wants to f@ck everything and leaves his teamates just for more money and less titles. I’m not saying this is bad or good. You said so.

          So … using the same criteria for Ronaldo . Is he a cunt or a legend ? Logical answer he is a greedy cunt. Your answer (you are the one who put the criteria) United Legend.

        • RedDevilEddy

          August 25, 2011 at 10:03 pm

          Ronaldo was a Real Madrid fan ever since he was a child, and had been wanting to move there for like… for ever! We should be grateful that he stayed with us for as long as he did, we can’t fault him for wanting to move to his favorite club. Imagine some of us played for Real Madrid and then United came knocking, wouldn’t you take the chance with both hands?

          Besides, if you think Nasri is a Manchester City fan then WOW, please tell me why because that just sounds too incredible to believe 😛 Ronaldo is a legend mate, and although he may be a cunt he certanly isn’t a greedy one. Respect for Ronnie, at least that brother kept it real!

    • Craig Mc

      August 25, 2011 at 3:13 pm

      Wooooooooooooooo – go Grog, you tell those feckers over at Wastelands! I think Noel Gallagher – total profound United HATER agrees with some of your points too mate. He told the press yesterday that with all their buys he still thought that United have the edge over City. He reckons that it is the Fergie factor, because he can spot young players that have big futures in the game, and he is rarely wrong, and goes on to say that it doesn’t cost him feckin millions either. City were desperate to beat United to Young and Jones – but those lads chose United – WHY? They could have got a thousand times more dosh at City, but when Fergie really does want somebody he gets his man. But the magic is, that while looking at the BIG bucks money players – Fergie doesn’t just dive in, because he is looking for spotting somebody who he sees will be equally as good as the scneiders of this world and goes in and grabs them. Lets be honest – scneider is a very good player – but he is not worth 35 million quid, especially as inter got hiim for half that amount 2 seasons ago, and he is two years older now. I am beginning to think more like Fergie, that why should we allow clubs to fleece us just because we are man United. Only thing I don’t agree with, is why Fergie let it get to the stage where our MF was depleted and we needed vital replacements – because that’s when we can get hammered with very unreasonable price tags for any player we want!… I hope Fergie will continue to see any weak areas in our team early, and then we can just buy players ONE at a time as we need them.

      • Grognard

        August 25, 2011 at 8:00 pm

        You and I are both starting to think more like Fergie. I still hate his allegiance and backing of the Glazer’s and still think his tactics and approach towards a team like Barcelona is extremely naive, but nobody and I mean nobody is a better judge of talent and is better at motivation and man management than Fergie.

        How many of us over the years ragged on him for sticking with certain youngsters like Nani, Ronaldo, Beckham, Anderson, Fletcher and others only to wait it out and watch them grow and eventually become supporters favorites? Now he has a whole new youth group ready to take the bull by the horns and make a claim to start. Cleverley, Smalling, Jones, Welbeck and even our keepers De Gea and Lindegard are all showing great promise and ability well beyond their years. Fergie has an eye for talent and he must be respected and given the time to wait these kids out until they show the skills and composure that will make them stars and household names. My God, Cleverley, Jones and Smalling are already there.

        And I also like the fact that he is looking for the best that England or the UK have to offer. That will keep UEFA, FIFA and the FA out of our hair and give us an advantage in regards to our UK quota being far superior to that of our competitors. Lets face it, Arsenal, Chelsea and City have a poor supply of UK born talent. Liverpool have improved theirs but nobody, not even Villa have as good a group as we now have. Regardless of my demands and impatience, I am forcing myself from now on not to question the old man too much when it comes to his youth policy. I mean even Anderson is starting to slowly win me over. Could it be that at the end of the day, I am actually wrong about him? Perhaps, but most importantly, Fergie never pulled the plug on him just like the way he stuck with Nani when all of us were sure he was going to sell him. And now look at the Lil Man, a true star. No mate, from now on I sing loudly the song, “In Fergie We Trust”. 🙂

        • RedDevilEddy

          August 25, 2011 at 8:14 pm

          Marry me ? 😆 😆 I’ll buy you lobster!

        • Grognard

          August 26, 2011 at 6:14 am

          I don’t come cheap and I like lobster a lot. 😉 😉 😀

  13. RedDevilEddy

    August 24, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    City can suck the hair out of my arsehole.

    • Grognard

      August 24, 2011 at 10:26 pm

      Problem is they would fight amongst each other over who goes first. There is no controlling their greed mate. 😀 😀

  14. godzilla

    August 24, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Like Owen says we should be a bit scared of City but I am not over worried. If they do succeed, Mancini will no doubt deserve it with the kind of players and egos around. I think Nasri is a big buy for them. I still feel we need Sneijder, i doubt if Fergie will gamble on youngsters doing a complete season with the same form and energy as seen in the past few games. Very unlikely. We need experience of a Sneijder to ensure we win the title, else it can be a close call.

    • tonymontanna4united

      August 24, 2011 at 8:31 pm

      I dont even see where the fuck nasri fits in with their team. Mancini loves his 3 DMs, and with silva, aguero and dzeko up top (not forgetting tevez either) where the hell is he going to play.
      And for the record, regarding nasri, good player that he is, he was a big pussy with no fight in him whilst he was at arsenal. So at city, where hes practically said hes only gone for money, i think his influence will be even less tbh. I guess that makes him a good fit though to go alongside the likes of silva, bibotelli etc.

      • Grognard

        August 25, 2011 at 8:07 pm

        He doesn’t. At least not without sitting down a player who is either as good as him or even better. I would not sit Silva down and Yay Ya Toure has surprised me at how valuable and what a presence he is in the AMF role. Aguero and Dzeko look to play every game as does Tevez. SO where do you fit Nasri? I hate greedy players but above all, I hate stupid players who want to move to teams who have no room for them but who have a shot at silverware. Well forgive my greed and selfishness but if I was a world class player, the last thing I owuld want isa to fight for my right to start and I could care less about winning silverware when I am not one of the reasons for that victory. There are bench warmers and then there are stars forced to sit on the bench. Berba is an example of a star who is forced on to the bench who belongs on the pitch somewhere. Sure a player sitting is happy for silverware, but trust me, ego and human nature steals a lot of the thrill when you aren’t playing. And players who put themselves in that position are not just greedy but incredibly stupid.

        • RMJ

          August 25, 2011 at 10:13 pm

          I think the way City will setup is 3 defensive midfeilders of either YT, De Jong and Barry(mancini’s love child) with silva a free role behind the strikers..from the looks of it Nasri is nothing more than cover for Silva cos Adam Johnson plays to wide and its pretty clear Milner is not cut out for it.

    • Grognard

      August 24, 2011 at 10:28 pm

      Trust me mate, the only thing we need Sneijder for are the last three rounds of the Champions League.

  15. Ahmad

    August 24, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    I really an disgusted by the amount of comments and reports around blogs and websites claiming that De Gea’s performance against tottenham was below par (this blog gave him the credit he deserves). He is surely getting better and i expect him to become a great name at United. To me he gave an assist in this game.

  16. Don

    August 24, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    I suspect Nasri will not be employed centrally but as a winger along with Johnson/Milner. Or he will be used to give Silva a breather who is by far their best player. The irony is that to balance the team Mancini will have to sacrifice either Yaya (who is a monster and essential imo) or De Jong who is equally important because of his disruptive qualities…it is amazing the likes of Adam Johnson suddenly might not fit in this team just because they have gotten happy with the checkbook buying players..with the right manager AJ could be a stud in any team in the premier league…my guess is Mancini will have to switch to a diamond midfield of Silva, Nasri and Milner/AJ with Yaya or De Jong holding and playing2 up front who wil likely be Dzeko and Aguero (Tevez off before the window closes) with Balotelli coming on as a sub (that should be funny). The alternative would be to play Aguero/Dzeko solo up top to accomodate the two holding players with Silva basically as an auxillary striker…Nasri is a pretty hardworking player so they might get away with it but I suspect if they just use one defensive mid they could struggle for balance by being too attack focused…should be interesting but I think this squad would need one more year to get it together to seriously challenge us and Chelsea…

    • tonymontanna4united

      August 24, 2011 at 11:53 pm

      The thing is, if mancini wasnt such a conservative pussy, he could quite easily drop barry, play de jong and toure as holding midfielders, and have nasri in front playing in his favoured central position. Now thats a fucking midfield.
      But mancini with his shit scared pussy tactics, loves to play a solid 3 in midfield, all predominantly DMs, and then allows the front 3 to wreak havoc.
      Dzeko seems to be one of mancinis blue eyed boys (i dont rate him personally), aguero is the big name eye catching player, and silva as you say is easily their best player, and has been for some time. So where does nasri get a game?
      I think nasri was obviously just a luxury signing. Not really needed, but another option who they can bring in, and another classless cunts seduced by the big bucks, but spends most of his time on the bench alongside the likes of clichy, milner, johnson (agree this kid would be the dogs bollocks if he was actually getting game time), swp, savic, and most likely tevez.
      I dont know, but i just think theyve got too many players, too many egos, too many money grabbing little mercenaries for them to win the league. Not enough heart, fight or general “i give a shit about city” from their players, which doesnt impress me tbh.

      • Don

        August 25, 2011 at 1:36 am

        oh my I had forgotten about Mr Barry…now he won’t get much of a game will he!!

      • Grognard

        August 25, 2011 at 8:09 pm

        Yes he could play Tour back at DMF but City actually started to play better and improve when Touree was moved to the AMF spot. His size is intimidating but his speed, vision and finishing has also been a revelation. I personally would take him over Nasri because he is also box to box.

  17. Jay wire

    August 24, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Manchester City are a total joke. Self mutilation at it’s best. It’s not enough that they have a million strikers,now they have 3 substitute benches. If I was Arsene Wenger,and fortunately I’m not, I’d have demanded Adam Johnson, who will at best now occupy the prestigious and elitist first bench of Manchester City. James Milner will be forced to occupy the second bench. Oh my goodness. I had forgotten about Gareth Barry. What in the world is he still doing there? Can’t believe Santa Cruz used to play in the Premiership. What a nonsense football club. Scared of City? Ha ha ha. Joke of the year.Manchester City are a total joke. Self mutilation at it’s best. It’s not enough that they have a million strikers,now they have 3 substitute benches. If I was Arsene Wenger,and fortunately I’m not, I’d have demanded Adam Johnson, who will at best now occupy the prestigious and elitist first bench of Manchester City. James Milner will be forced to occupy the second bench. Oh my goodness. I had forgotten about Gareth Barry. What in the world is he still doing there? Can’t believe Santa Cruz used to play in the Premiership. What a nonsense football club. Scared of City? Ha ha ha. Joke of the year.

    • tonymontanna4united

      August 25, 2011 at 12:07 am

      Its not often i agree with you, but here i am in full agreement.
      Regarding johnson, class player, but i think what would have put off arsenal demanding him, was the mans wages. Hes on something like £120k, which is amazing tbh as he was a bloody sub pretty much from the day he went to city (the club he turned down his boyhood club, sunderland, for so i suppose his intentions were clear from day 1 really).
      That is why they are having so much trouble shifting the likes of santa cruz, bellamy and until recently the likes of jo (remember him), caicedo and the like. Because theyre all on bloody £100k, £120k, even £150k a week. I mean fucking craig bellamy is on more or equal to what we pay vidic, rio, nani, berba, hernandez etc, its just pathetic.
      So it seems like its a case of letting their contracts run down, of which im sure the aformentioned arent going to kick up much of a fuss whether they play or not. Afterall theyre getting over £100k each week for doing sod all. Its sick really, but then thats the way this club obviously do things.
      I look at their situation and wonder how the hell they expect to ever meet the fair play guidelines that are coming into force soon, because where im sitting, i cant see how they can meet them.
      Unless that is they give UEFA a nice bung, or get another shady deal with some etihad like company that gives them hundreds of millions of pounds to rename something they dont even bloody own
      In case your wondering, their etihad stadium is owned by the manchester council, aka why its called the council house, and they sold the naming rights to it, even though they have no right to. So far ive heard the liverpool and spurs chairmen having a go and demanding action from the FA, but we all know how bloody useless they are.
      Probably already been paid off, with that city supporting cunt bernstein, being the FA head an all, fucking bitter.

      • Grognard

        August 26, 2011 at 6:24 am

        Problem these days is demanding players back never works because of the Bosman rule. Players hold all the power and if they want to move, teams are usually powerless against them even if the contract they have signed is being lived up to. I personally hate the Bosman ruling. It turned playing a sport into a regular job and allows players from all over Europe to play anywhere much like the circulation of the EURO. I am socialist when it comes to the creation and management of sports leagues. A sports league cannot survive and operate fairly in a high risk capitalist economy without socialist guidelines. I believe in a draft and I believe in contract5s being binding and players not having the freedom to move as they please. Ultimate consideration needs to be given to the teams and not the players. That doesn’t mean the owners, just the franchises and the communities they are situated in.

        It’s great when United sign a big player but for me, I am not a fan of forcing or tapping up players and making them demand to move before their contract is over or before the given team is open to a sale. It’s bullying and a form of extortion and it’s not good for the game. We have been guilty of this in the past (ex: Berbatov and Rooney) and we have been victims as well (can anyone say Real Madrid?). It’s time to take back control of the game from agents and greedy players. I am not a believer that great players somehow have this preordained right to have their cake and eat it as well. I mean does every God Damned player on the planet have to play for Barcelona and Real Madrid? I say NO. FIFA and UEFA cheapen the game by allowing a few teams to monopolize all the talent in Europe.

    • Don

      August 25, 2011 at 1:40 am

      Since I haven’t seen you post in a while (I’m sure you have but I just missed it) and you are a big proponent of one Mr Carrick what do you reckon with the current situation in United’s midfield? DO you still think he warrants a place in the starting 11 and if so do you think he could fill the current Cleverly-Anderson role (which by all appearances seems to be a double headed interchangeable CAM) where both players get up and down the field in a box-to-box fashion? My biggest complaing about Mr Carrick is that despite his lovely passing range he is a very slow and often predictable player who gets exposed against the quick nippy players…I’ll be curious to hear your opinion on his current predictament 8) ..

  18. tonymontanna4united

    August 25, 2011 at 1:23 am

    Regarding the CL group stage draw tomorrow, one question.
    How is it, borussia dortmund are in pot 4, despite winning the german league last year, and winning the CL as recently as 97, yet city, who have done basically fuck all for the best part of 40 years, are seeded into pot 3?
    How do they decide a team who go into the year as german champs, are in the pot lower than the team that came 3rd in the PL? Seems a little unfair.

    As for us, i suppose the group of death for us would be something like lyon (pot 2), zenit (pot 3) and dortmund (pot 4) which would be a tough challenge. Hopefully though we get a nice easy draw, which requires little travel, and qualify as quickly as possible which will allow us the opportunity to give the likes of pogba, morrison a chance on the european stage.
    Best draw would probably be benfica, basle and genk. But the opening rounds are usually just a snoozefest as we easily walkthrough with ease anyway, so not entirely bothered who we get. Long as we can avoid long travelling really, as our PL games directly after CL games are pretty tough.

    • Lars

      August 25, 2011 at 6:29 am

      I think it is the fact that Man City went far into Europa League and built up their coefficient that way while Dortmund were out early or did not feature in Europe.

    • despicable

      August 25, 2011 at 8:03 am

      yes bad previous record counts!!!

      Group of Death — United, AC Milan, Ajax and Dortmund.

      • Lars

        August 25, 2011 at 9:46 am

        The easiest group would probably be:
        United, Benfica, BATE Borisov, and O?elul Gala?i

        Crazy difference between this group and your Group of Death!

        Hopefully City get stuck in the Barca, Milan, and Dortmund (or Napoli) group 😛

        • despicable

          August 25, 2011 at 10:07 am

          Yes may be… I can bet City won’t get Barca.. barca has big influence… they never play good teams in early rounds… Not sure how it happens but its the same every year…

    • Grognard

      August 25, 2011 at 8:15 pm

      Dortmund are in Pot four because of their lack of pedigree and appearances in the CL over the past ten years. It’s a ridiculous rule especially as they are champions of Germany, one of the top four leagues. The fact Levekusen were in Pot C ahead of them speaks of Leverkusen having been in a final in this decade as well as numerous CL’s
      Bayern was in Pot 1 and they finished third in Germany. Basically this system ensures UEFA of the same old teams making it to the second stage. They are scared to death of change and do not like upsets because money is at play and so for them it must guarantee having Barcelona, Madrid, the two Milan’s and United in the later stages. It’s all political and not fair at all. Why should the form of a team from three years ago play a role this year? It’s hierarchical hypocrisy and stupidity. I personally hope Dortmund kicks ass and takes names.

  19. Grognard

    August 25, 2011 at 4:41 am

    We can sit and compare players between us and Manchester United and on paper City might even come up on top due to the sheer number of excellent players they have. But they do not have a team…….YET. And even if they manage to form a team despite having cancerous pricks like Tevez and especially Balotelli amongst them, they still lack the main factor and reason they cannot dethrone us. That factor is Fergie. For as long as we have him, City and all the pretenders of the EPL can only dream of beating us. Since 1993 only four managers have had the chops to stand head to head with the great man and actually beat him in a season long marathon. Kenny Dalglish with Blackburn in 94/95 Wenger three times (before senility set in), in 97/98, 01/02, 03,04 Jose Mourinho in 04/05 05/06 and Carlo Ancelotti in 09/10. That is four pretty great managers with pretty decent resumes and in the case of Ancelotti and Mourinho, considerable track records in Europe as well.

    Basically only four men have managed to dent Fergie’s armor and all four men eventually caved in and gave in. Fergie always makes a comeback and his club is always in contention. Mancini has done well in Italy but truthfully, his time at Inter was blessed due to the shaky condition of Serie A and especially Juventus and AC Milan. His name is not to be mentioned with the four who have beaten us and as far as I am concerned, only a Mourinho or the Barca guy who shall remain nameless are capable of beating him right now. Legends don’t get beat by part timers.

  20. despicable

    August 25, 2011 at 7:48 am

    The group i want to See — group of death.

    United , AC Milan, Ajax and Dortmund.. 🙂

  21. despicable

    August 25, 2011 at 8:06 am

    Another one would be awesome..

    United, Shaktar , Zenith and Trabzonspor 😉

    • despicable

      August 25, 2011 at 8:08 am

      But i am pretty sure, Barca will get this opponents.. thanks to platini help!!! 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯

    • despicable

      August 25, 2011 at 10:08 am

      its a long travelling group… 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄

  22. Stephen

    August 25, 2011 at 8:57 am

    “I am jealous of City a lot these days and even i fear them too.”
    Fear is for cowards, we have a challenge and that is exciting. Only losers worry about the opponent, we have to concentrate of what we have and at he moment it is as an exciting side as we have had for seasons. City have all the money in the World, but money does not always buy success, tem spirit and the know how to wins tournaments should never be under estimated.
    The day I am jealous of that mob will be the day I buy a Liverpool season ticket, never.

    • Craig Mc

      August 25, 2011 at 2:34 pm

      Couldn’t agree with you more Stephen. That mob at eastlands can buy every player in the world, but they will never have any harmony in their camp, because big ego’s will not park their money bought and owned arses on benches for any length of time. With all they have spent they should win things – so we wait and see.

      • Stephen

        August 25, 2011 at 3:11 pm

        God to see you back bro, I have missed your Mancness mate 😀

      • Craig Mc

        August 25, 2011 at 10:33 pm

        Thanks mate 😀

  23. Nikos

    August 25, 2011 at 10:27 am

    OK gorggy…agree in many points but being the devil’s lawyer I would have to say ;

    You still like Ronaldo? The uglyfucker who looks like a gay but has fucked every little chick that is paid over 2000poumds/night? The cunt that -like barca players- dives even when nobody touches him? The cunt that his main phrases are “give me the ball” and “I want a new contract or else I’ll go to Madrid”…

    Another point. How is being a fringe player and a local lad who wins trophies loyalty whilst being a fringe pl

  24. Nikos

    August 25, 2011 at 10:35 am

    whilst being a fringe player and not a local lad who erans money and maybe wins some trophies is greediness.

    This makes no sense other than emotional sense. What you like and makes you happy isn’t always logical and fair.

    Some people work in a “familly team” (it’s glazers for fuck sake) and go for glory.Some others work in a “greedy tam” and go for feeding the family and their egos with money and less glory.

    WHO CARES?JUST WATCH THE GAME. GOOD FOOTBALL IS GOOD FOOTBALL.

    Just being the devil’s lawyer…

  25. Nikos

    August 25, 2011 at 10:54 am

    P.S. : They will win trophies and if they don’t it’s just Mancini’s 0-0 way (or should I say rafa’s way)… If fergie managed such great talents he would have won everything. Let me remind you that he was a big adebayor admirer but look at what mancini did to him… He made him look useless while he is really great.

  26. Craig Mc

    August 25, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    I hear they have got THREE subs benches at City now – and I look forward to seeing the faces of said subs all lined up, and dressed up with nowhere to go! I mean we think Berbatov always looks feckin miserable sitting on the bench, imagine what all those City prima dona’s will look like!

    • despicable

      August 25, 2011 at 3:57 pm

      1. Johnson(>5 M)
      2. Milner(>20M)
      3. Barry(>12 M)
      4. Lescott(>17 M)
      5. Wright Philips.(>10M)
      6. Santa Cruz.(>17 M)
      7. Bellamy.(>10M)
      8. Bellotelli(>24 M)
      9. some other millionare.. 🙄

      What if the qatari owner gets bored and leave.. 😈 😈 😈

  27. despicable

    August 25, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    Welbeck and cleverly getting a new Contract worth 40 Grand per week!!! they deserve it… 5 years contract 😛 😛 😛 😛

  28. RMJ

    August 25, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Great to have u back on here Craig…u were well missed

    on another note..how come we still havent been rid of the plague that is darren gibson? or parted company with Kuzzy…or did i miss a trick somewhere?

    • despicable

      August 25, 2011 at 3:50 pm

      No still we are looking to offload!!!!!

      • Traverse

        August 25, 2011 at 4:55 pm

        I heard a rumour on twitter that any chance of Gibson leaving permanently have hit a snag as he’s injured. Will probably end up off on loan, maybe at Wolves Kuszcszack back to West Brom is a big possibility.

    • Craig Mc

      August 25, 2011 at 10:31 pm

      Thanks for that RMJ – missed you too 😀

  29. Traverse

    August 25, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    So Champions League Draw Predictions.

    United
    Marseille
    Ajax
    Genk

    • [OPTI]Madschester United

      August 25, 2011 at 5:23 pm

      that is such an Arsenal group…

  30. Lars

    August 25, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    Group C!!!!!

  31. [OPTI]Madschester United

    August 25, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    1718: Group H: Barcelona, AC Milan
    — I like! Wish we get some challenging (close by) games… I hate the expected-to-win-comfortably games…

  32. Traverse

    August 25, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    So our group is

    United
    Benfica
    Basel
    Otelul Galati

    • Traverse

      August 25, 2011 at 5:40 pm

      The other English teams get:

      Bayern
      Villarreal
      Citeh
      Napoli

      Chelsea
      Valencia
      Bayer Leverkusen
      Genk

      Arsenal
      Marseille
      Olympiakos
      Borussia Dortmund

      I’m quite happy with our group!

      • Andrei

        August 25, 2011 at 11:25 pm

        And looks like Arsenal may be going home this year. Dortmund and Marseille are better sides than Udinese and Arsenal struggled against the Italian team.

    • Lars

      August 25, 2011 at 5:51 pm

      I think it is the easiest group we have had in a long time! And, City are probably in the group of death! 😛

    • RMJ

      August 25, 2011 at 5:52 pm

      The footballing devils have smiled favorably upon us once more! 😈

  33. Moscow is my heaven

    August 25, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Much of our traditional slow start to the season is down to the fixture pile-up with the Champions League group stages, so I reckon we’re gonna have a monster season because clearly we have the easiest group. Basel? Galati? Cannon fodder.

    Good luck Citeh 😈 😈 😈

    • RMJ

      August 25, 2011 at 6:01 pm

      i think Shitty will progress comfortably..I think Bayern will give them a tight match but our neighbors have a better squad. Italian teams have been rubbish for a while and Villarreal don’t have what it takes to go the distance

      • Lars

        August 25, 2011 at 6:26 pm

        Don’t discount Napoli. Last season they were really impressive and they kept their best players (Cavani, Hamsik) and added quality in Inler…But, yes I do also think City will advance. However, their domestic campaign(s) may (hopefully) suffer from tough competition.

        • Moscow is my heaven

          August 25, 2011 at 7:25 pm

          Which brings me back to the fixture pile-up. Trust me Bayern and Napoli are gonna bring a lot out of City. I AM hoping City qualify though so that we’re not handicapped with having to play in Europe whereas they enjoy weeks off.

          It has a big influence on our/their domestic campaign.

        • RMJ

          August 25, 2011 at 10:21 pm

          Napoli looked gud in serie A but were really ordinary in Europa last season…they played full strength and I thought was just not gud enuf.

  34. Moscow is my heaven

    August 25, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Traverse mate, what’s the latest on Sneijder? Berba-like transfer to United on deadline day or what?

    • RedDevilEddy

      August 25, 2011 at 7:48 pm

      He’s not signing. 🙂

      • Moscow is my heaven

        August 25, 2011 at 8:58 pm

        WHAT THE FUCK 😡 😡 🙁

        • RMJ

          August 25, 2011 at 10:14 pm

          rofl 😛

  35. Craig Mc

    August 25, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    Anybody else watch the reserves against Swansea – with our lads scoring 6? Pogba needs to move up to training with the 1st team. He is still a bit gangly like Welbeck was, but he is miles better than Welbeck in his distribution on the ball, and his vision for a pass that counts. Also Douif scored two goals for us. I really think Fergie has to give Diouf some game time too, because he has PRESENCE on the field which I noticed first when he played in the USA. Thing with Diouf is that he wants to win, and he gets our players RILED UP in training, because he gets stuck in and tackles fiercely. That is what caused Jones to retaliate in training with a revenge tackle on Diouf after Diouf went in on him so hard – but Diouf got the ball in his tackle on Jones. Jones should realise that his tackles are not exactly lightweight are they 😆 😆 . Come on Mame Diouf, I believe in you!

    • Don

      August 27, 2011 at 3:09 am

      I would imagine Pogba is already training with the first team whenever he is not involved with the reserves…its pretty common practcie with United to do that..he just needs to improve his fitness and stamina and he will be an aboslute monster…the physica side (as i ronic as that sounds because he is already a giant) is where he needs to mature to be ready…as for Diouf I very much agree with you…when i watched him at blackburn all i could think of is ..hang on..this fella is nowhere near United quality..but when i see him playing with our lads, althou gh he doesn’t have the best touch, he finishes well and is lightning quick…i would definitely like diouf to be the 5th/6th choice striker in front of the likes of Owen…he is young, great character for teh squad and can do a job…i think a loan at a better club (wigan, west brom) that plays football might do him good…i think playing a season in the reserves might take him backwards…

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